Jorge Cadete

[Bryan.]

Is it common for players to have played for both Lisbon clubs or a complete no no (barring Cadete)?

É comum os jogadores terem jogado em ambos os clubes de Lisboa ou um completo "não" (excepto Cadete)?

Fairly common. Simão Sabrosa, one of our best players in the XXI century, actually came from Sporting's youth system. He was a Sporting  supporter as kid and eventually converted to Benfica, after playing for us, and he's currently working in the club.

João Mário, another product of Sporting's youth system is another such example. And he was even playing for them 2 years ago, on loan from Inter, but they ended up not paying his option to buy clause, so we snatched him up.

It's "common" as in it happens more often than in the Old Firm but it's still a huge no no. It's not received well at all by the supporters and it becames the focal point of the following derbies if the player is even slightly relevant.

It's basically the same culture as in Spain.

[Celticfan]

Is it common for players to have played for both Lisbon clubs or a complete no no (barring Cadete)?

É comum os jogadores terem jogado em ambos os clubes de Lisboa ou um completo "não" (excepto Cadete)?

Fairly common. Simão Sabrosa, one of our best players in the XXI century, actually came from Sporting's youth system. He was a Sporting  supporter as kid and eventually converted to Benfica, after playing for us, and he's currently working in the club.

João Mário, another product of Sporting's youth system is another such example. And he was even playing for them 2 years ago, on loan from Inter, but they ended up not paying his option to buy clause, so we snatched him up.

It's "common" as in it happens more often than in the Old Firm but it's still a huge no no. It's not received well at all by the supporters and it becames the focal point of the following derbies if the player is even slightly relevant.

It's basically the same culture as in Spain.

So who is Benfica's most hated ex player?

Então, quem é o ex-jogador mais odiado do Benfica?

[Torgeir Bryn]

Is it common for players to have played for both Lisbon clubs or a complete no no (barring Cadete)?

É comum os jogadores terem jogado em ambos os clubes de Lisboa ou um completo "não" (excepto Cadete)?

Fairly common. Simão Sabrosa, one of our best players in the XXI century, actually came from Sporting's youth system. He was a Sporting  supporter as kid and eventually converted to Benfica, after playing for us, and he's currently working in the club.

João Mário, another product of Sporting's youth system is another such example. And he was even playing for them 2 years ago, on loan from Inter, but they ended up not paying his option to buy clause, so we snatched him up.

It's "common" as in it happens more often than in the Old Firm but it's still a huge no no. It's not received well at all by the supporters and it becames the focal point of the following derbies if the player is even slightly relevant.

It's basically the same culture as in Spain.

So who is Benfica's most hated ex player?

Então, quem é o ex-jogador mais odiado do Benfica?

Paulo Sousa
Cabrão

[Bryan.]

Is it common for players to have played for both Lisbon clubs or a complete no no (barring Cadete)?

É comum os jogadores terem jogado em ambos os clubes de Lisboa ou um completo "não" (excepto Cadete)?

Fairly common. Simão Sabrosa, one of our best players in the XXI century, actually came from Sporting's youth system. He was a Sporting  supporter as kid and eventually converted to Benfica, after playing for us, and he's currently working in the club.

João Mário, another product of Sporting's youth system is another such example. And he was even playing for them 2 years ago, on loan from Inter, but they ended up not paying his option to buy clause, so we snatched him up.

It's "common" as in it happens more often than in the Old Firm but it's still a huge no no. It's not received well at all by the supporters and it becames the focal point of the following derbies if the player is even slightly relevant.

It's basically the same culture as in Spain.

So who is Benfica's most hated ex player?

Então, quem é o ex-jogador mais odiado do Benfica?

There isn't any "Figo" figure.

Another user mentioned Paulo Sousa, that's a good shout, left directly for Sporting for more money while being a homegrown player and a fan favourite.

Maxi Pereira, who left Benfica for Porto, it another one.

I don't think the Benfica fan base is particularly prone to that kind of behaviour though. We focus more on ourselves than in our rivals and most of the hate is institutional (against Porto's president Pinto da Costa, against structures of power, etc).

[Festivus]

Era um bom jogador no Sporting, marcava os seus golitos e trabalhava mto lá na frente, a guerra com o Queiroz foi o seu fim em Alvalade, depois disso teve uma boa passagem no Celtic, no Benfica veio velho e ainda marcou um golo importante aqui e ali mas estava longe de continuar a ser o jogador que era...

Como pessoa parece-me um gajo porreiro que investiu mal o dinheiro, espero que tal como o Veloso a vida traga-lhe melhores dias...

O ponto alto desde que retirou-se foi provavelmente ter comido a Nicole que era do grupo Tentações e conheceu no Big Brother famosos...

I've noticed a few people dislike Cadete on here. Was he just over the hill at Benfica? Did he get a bad injury?

He was great at Celtic and was arguably one of my first football heroes along with Pierre Van Hoojdonk. By all accounts he was good at Sporting as well, I remember him scoring against Celtic. He got greedy though and decided to leave for more money after a season or so to Celta Vigo. If he had stayed for a few more years he could have been a club legend but then we may not have got Larsson. He was the start of Celtic's rebirth by signing players of his calibre (along with Pierre Van Hoojdonk, Paolo DiCanio and Andreas Thom) after the club almost went bankrupt in the early 1990's. Celtic were an absolute mess on and off the field between 1989-1994 or so. Unfortunately he didn't win anything at Celtic, our defence and goal keeper were still awful back then and we didn't win a title until 1997, the season after he left.

I didn't really follow his career after Celtic but I heard he had mental health issues and expressed regret leaving Celtic. He did not leave Celtic on good terms, demanding more money.

Notei que algumas pessoas não gostam de Cadete aqui. Será que ele estava mesmo por cima da colina no Benfica? Ficou ferido?

Foi óptimo no Celtic e foi sem dúvida um dos meus primeiros heróis do futebol juntamente com Pierre Van Hoojdonk. Por todos os motivos, ele também era bom no Sporting, lembro-me dele a marcar contra o Celtic. Mas ele ficou ganancioso e decidiu partir por mais dinheiro após cerca de uma temporada para o Celta Vigo. Se ele tivesse ficado mais alguns anos, poderia ter sido uma lenda do clube, mas então talvez não tivéssemos conseguido o Larsson. Ele foi o início do renascimento do Celtic ao contratar jogadores do seu calibre (juntamente com Pierre Van Hoojdonk, Paolo DiCanio e Andreas Thom) depois de o clube quase ter falido no início dos anos 90. O Celtic foi uma confusão absoluta dentro e fora do campo entre 1989-1994, mais ou menos. Infelizmente ele não ganhou nada no Celtic, a nossa defesa e guarda-redes ainda eram horríveis na altura e só ganhámos um título em 1997, a época após a sua partida.

Não segui realmente a sua carreira depois do Celtic, mas ouvi dizer que ele tinha problemas de saúde mental e lamentei ter deixado o Celtic. Não deixou o Celtic em boas condições, exigindo mais dinheiro.

My only memory of Cadete is seeing him in a TV contest around the year of 2002 or 2003 here.

[Benfanatic]

Is it common for players to have played for both Lisbon clubs or a complete no no (barring Cadete)?

É comum os jogadores terem jogado em ambos os clubes de Lisboa ou um completo "não" (excepto Cadete)?

Fairly common. Simão Sabrosa, one of our best players in the XXI century, actually came from Sporting's youth system. He was a Sporting  supporter as kid and eventually converted to Benfica, after playing for us, and he's currently working in the club.

João Mário, another product of Sporting's youth system is another such example. And he was even playing for them 2 years ago, on loan from Inter, but they ended up not paying his option to buy clause, so we snatched him up.

It's "common" as in it happens more often than in the Old Firm but it's still a huge no no. It's not received well at all by the supporters and it becames the focal point of the following derbies if the player is even slightly relevant.

It's basically the same culture as in Spain.

So who is Benfica's most hated ex player?

Então, quem é o ex-jogador mais odiado do Benfica?

Paulo Sousa, Pacheco, Maxi Pereira, Miguel, Fábio Coentrão, Fernando Mendes.

[Covenant]

Is it common for players to have played for both Lisbon clubs or a complete no no (barring Cadete)?

É comum os jogadores terem jogado em ambos os clubes de Lisboa ou um completo "não" (excepto Cadete)?

Fairly common. Simão Sabrosa, one of our best players in the XXI century, actually came from Sporting's youth system. He was a Sporting  supporter as kid and eventually converted to Benfica, after playing for us, and he's currently working in the club.

João Mário, another product of Sporting's youth system is another such example. And he was even playing for them 2 years ago, on loan from Inter, but they ended up not paying his option to buy clause, so we snatched him up.

It's "common" as in it happens more often than in the Old Firm but it's still a huge no no. It's not received well at all by the supporters and it becames the focal point of the following derbies if the player is even slightly relevant.

It's basically the same culture as in Spain.

So who is Benfica's most hated ex player?

Então, quem é o ex-jogador mais odiado do Benfica?

Paulo Sousa, Pacheco, Maxi Pereira, Miguel, Fábio Coentrão, Fernando Mendes.

Cristian Rodriguez.

[Benfanatic]

Is it common for players to have played for both Lisbon clubs or a complete no no (barring Cadete)?

É comum os jogadores terem jogado em ambos os clubes de Lisboa ou um completo "não" (excepto Cadete)?

Fairly common. Simão Sabrosa, one of our best players in the XXI century, actually came from Sporting's youth system. He was a Sporting  supporter as kid and eventually converted to Benfica, after playing for us, and he's currently working in the club.

João Mário, another product of Sporting's youth system is another such example. And he was even playing for them 2 years ago, on loan from Inter, but they ended up not paying his option to buy clause, so we snatched him up.

It's "common" as in it happens more often than in the Old Firm but it's still a huge no no. It's not received well at all by the supporters and it becames the focal point of the following derbies if the player is even slightly relevant.

It's basically the same culture as in Spain.

So who is Benfica's most hated ex player?

Então, quem é o ex-jogador mais odiado do Benfica?

Paulo Sousa, Pacheco, Maxi Pereira, Miguel, Fábio Coentrão, Fernando Mendes.

Cristian Rodriguez.

Esse é top3. Obrigado

[Celticfan]

Is it common for players to have played for both Lisbon clubs or a complete no no (barring Cadete)?

É comum os jogadores terem jogado em ambos os clubes de Lisboa ou um completo "não" (excepto Cadete)?

Fairly common. Simão Sabrosa, one of our best players in the XXI century, actually came from Sporting's youth system. He was a Sporting  supporter as kid and eventually converted to Benfica, after playing for us, and he's currently working in the club.

João Mário, another product of Sporting's youth system is another such example. And he was even playing for them 2 years ago, on loan from Inter, but they ended up not paying his option to buy clause, so we snatched him up.

It's "common" as in it happens more often than in the Old Firm but it's still a huge no no. It's not received well at all by the supporters and it becames the focal point of the following derbies if the player is even slightly relevant.

It's basically the same culture as in Spain.

So who is Benfica's most hated ex player?

Então, quem é o ex-jogador mais odiado do Benfica?

There isn't any "Figo" figure.

Another user mentioned Paulo Sousa, that's a good shout, left directly for Sporting for more money while being a homegrown player and a fan favourite.

Maxi Pereira, who left Benfica for Porto, it another one.

I don't think the Benfica fan base is particularly prone to that kind of behaviour though. We focus more on ourselves than in our rivals and most of the hate is institutional (against Porto's president Pinto da Costa, against structures of power, etc).

Our most hated is Maurice Johnstone. He is still called 'Judas'. It's not so much that he signed for Rangers but he stabbed everybody in the back by doing so, went against his word to re-sign for Celtic, even saying 'it's the only club I want to play for'. He was the first modern day catholic to sign for Rangers as well, the club had a no Catholics signing policy for almost a century. There's been a couple of other players who have played for both clubs. Mostly when they were in youth academies or fringe players but Kenny Miller played for both. He doesn't get too much hassle though. Johnstone's situation was different and he doesn't live in Glasgow anymore. It took a long time for Celtic to recover from it.

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/mo-johnstons-celtic-rangers-transfer-21605578

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE674cACsRc

O nosso mais odiado é Maurice Johnstone. Continua a ser chamado 'Judas'. Não é tanto que ele assinou pelo Rangers, mas ele apunhalou toda a gente pelas costas ao fazê-lo, foi contra a sua palavra de voltar a assinar pelo Celtic, dizendo mesmo 'é o único clube pelo qual quero jogar'. Ele foi também o primeiro católico dos tempos modernos a assinar pelo Rangers, o clube teve uma política de não assinatura de católicos durante quase um século. Houve um par de outros jogadores que jogaram pelos dois clubes. A maioria quando estavam em academias de jovens ou jogadores marginais, mas Kenny Miller jogou por ambos. Mas ele não se incomoda muito. A situação de Johnstone era diferente e ele já não vive em Glasgow.

[Festivus]

A única memória que eu tenho do Cadete foi de ele ter sido concorrente uma vez num concurso de televisão apresentado pelo Nicolau Breyner lá para 2002-2004 ou assim. Como é que se chamava? Passo a Palavra?