Besiktas

Black Eagle

Dear Friends, in Turkey every week we learn a new football rule in Besiktas matches.

Please watch the video and share your opinions. Is this not a penalty? Even with VAR, they decided that it is not penalty. They will make Besiktas fans crazy.

Caros amigos, na Turquia todas as semanas aprendemos uma nova regra de futebol nos jogos do Besiktas.

Por favor, assista ao vídeo e compartilhe suas opiniões. Isto não é uma penalidade? Mesmo com o VAR, eles decidiram que não é penalidade. Eles vão deixar os adeptos do Besiktas malucos.

https://twitter.com/BesiktasOrdusu/status/1036514169842028544

and please watch the following video as well. VAR decided that it is not offside.

e por favor, assista o vídeo a seguir também. Var decidiu que não está impedido.

https://twitter.com/Avfattas/status/1033984635737448448


Covenant

I need another replay for first vídeo.

Second vídeo, of course, it's offside.

Hysteria

The first case is hard to analyze. I think both decisions must be comprehended. On one hand, his arm is closed to his body, but on other hand, that's not a normal positioning for the hand.

The second video was Bursaspor goal? Ofc offside.

Black Eagle

Citação de: Covenant em 03 de Setembro de 2018, 17:52
I need another replay for first vídeo.

Second vídeo, of course, it's offside.

Unfortunately the broadcaster (Beinsport) does not show from different angle if positions are clearly wrong. They are part of the corruption in Turkish league. But defensive player clearly block the ball with his hand. I am pretty sure that a replay from the reverse side would clearly show how the defensive player intentionally blocked the ball with his hand.

Commentators (predominatly Gala and Fenerbahce supporters) argue that it is not offside because Adriano touched the ball.  ;D


Black Eagle

Citação de: Jpa em 03 de Setembro de 2018, 18:00
The first case is hard to analyze. I think both decisions must be comprehended. On one hand, his arm is closed to his body, but on other hand, that's not a normal positioning for the hand.

The second video was Bursaspor goal? Ofc offside.

Look, We Besiktas fans are tired of these injustices for years. Ok lets accept that referees are right in both positions. Then, we expect they should rule in the same way for Galatasaray and Fenerbahce or against Besiktas. Believe me if Fenerbahce and Gala were playing against those teams they would definitely decide offside and penalty in both positions. Or, If it was Besiktas that scored that goal, or it was a Besiktas player touch the ball in the same way they would punish Besiktas. This is really ridiculous. Now they are discussing not to use VAR. Because their corrupt manners get revealed. They soon will give up using VAR.

Covenant

Citação de: Jpa em 03 de Setembro de 2018, 18:00
The first case is hard to analyze. I think both decisions must be comprehended. On one hand, his arm is closed to his body, but on other hand, that's not a normal positioning for the hand.

The second video was Bursaspor goal? Ofc offside.
It was against Kayserispor, I think. The Bursaspor goal was a mistake by Karius.

Black Eagle


Lets see other scandalous VAR decisions on behalf of Fenerbahce.

In the following position Slimani was not given second yellow card. He already had one.

https://twitter.com/1903semt1903/status/1035938979433144320

In the same game, Fenerbahce's rival got a direct red card.

https://twitter.com/TurkSporTV/status/1035950530890264576


Black Eagle

Citação de: Covenant em 03 de Setembro de 2018, 18:33
Citação de: Jpa em 03 de Setembro de 2018, 18:00
The first case is hard to analyze. I think both decisions must be comprehended. On one hand, his arm is closed to his body, but on other hand, that's not a normal positioning for the hand.

The second video was Bursaspor goal? Ofc offside.
It was against Kayserispor, I think. The Bursaspor goal was a mistake by Karius.

Antalyaspor... 

Covenant

Citação de: Black Eagle em 03 de Setembro de 2018, 18:39
Citação de: Covenant em 03 de Setembro de 2018, 18:33
Citação de: Jpa em 03 de Setembro de 2018, 18:00
The first case is hard to analyze. I think both decisions must be comprehended. On one hand, his arm is closed to his body, but on other hand, that's not a normal positioning for the hand.

The second video was Bursaspor goal? Ofc offside.
It was against Kayserispor, I think. The Bursaspor goal was a mistake by Karius.

Antalyaspor... 
My mistake, both won 2-3 against a Istambul giant. 😂

Black Eagle

Citação de: Covenant em 03 de Setembro de 2018, 18:43
Citação de: Black Eagle em 03 de Setembro de 2018, 18:39
Citação de: Covenant em 03 de Setembro de 2018, 18:33
Citação de: Jpa em 03 de Setembro de 2018, 18:00
The first case is hard to analyze. I think both decisions must be comprehended. On one hand, his arm is closed to his body, but on other hand, that's not a normal positioning for the hand.

The second video was Bursaspor goal? Ofc offside.
It was against Kayserispor, I think. The Bursaspor goal was a mistake by Karius.

Antalyaspor... 
My mistake, both won 2-3 against a Istambul giant. 😂

Yes, you are right. Gala lost to Trabzonspor 4-0 as well.  ;D

Gonçalo Santos

The turkish league seems to be the weakest in recent years.

Even Besiktas seems to have a very limited team compared to others they've had lately

Black Eagle

Yes, due to UEFA financial fair play agreement Turkish giants can not spend money for better players. Besiktas could manage to sign with Karious and Ljajic this summer.

tcardoso

This is my own opinion:
1) https://twitter.com/BesiktasOrdusu/status/1036514169842028544

Penalty. The ball is in super slow motion, so he could easily have avoid it.

2) https://twitter.com/Avfattas/status/1033984635737448448

Clearly offside

3) https://twitter.com/1903semt1903/status/1035938979433144320

It depends on previous behavior from him. I would not sent one player off the game b'cause of this.

4) https://twitter.com/TurkSporTV/status/1035950530890264576

Hard to tell if it was on purpose, but it seems it was, so in that case red card is well shown

Black Eagle

Super dirty and corrupt Turkish league this week.

Pelase look at the tackles. Medel who is now one of the best players of Besiktas got 2 yellow cards (turned into red card), just before a derby game against Fenerbahce. He will miss the derby. Please share your opinions.

https://twitter.com/forzabesiktas/status/1041056811875528704

And please watch the following video. The referee did not blow his whistle for this foul. It is ridiculous and scandalous.

https://twitter.com/forzabesiktas/status/1041062314731036672

Covenant