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  • 20 de Março de 2019, 17:36
ARIS making the push for the last Europa spot is very nice to see. Hopefully they get there and upgrade their aging squad.

Yes to both. They have demolished certain team this year. Their last game another 5-0 win.
I think they are there in Europe. I don't think Panaitolikos will catch them now. I also think they will upgrade their team. Some of their team even got NT call ups like Valerianos last week. They always acquire a bunch of new players every new season. Their coach is quite good too. The big point for me is whether they will be able to hold on to Mateo Garcia - but I read somewhere his buy-out is only 1 million! So they should be able to keep him. He is excellent. Fetfatzidis is also there now and scored last game for them. He will be important for them next season. Olympiacos actually may want their CM captain Fran Velez and it seems we are very close to him:

https://www.sportime.gr/olimpiakos/poli-konta-se-fran-veleth-o-olimpiakos/

Aris are a good club. Always attack. Good fans. Interesting if not bizarre stadium.. They are a welcome addition. Seeing as Panathinaikos will hopefully get relegated soon, they are set to take that spot left vacant.

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  • 20 de Março de 2019, 17:39
Mateo's clause in FM is 1,5M€ if that helps!  ;D

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  • 20 de Março de 2019, 17:48
Mateo's clause in FM is 1,5M€ if that helps!  ;D

Insane.

Easily of the best players in the entire country this year and still only 22. 8 goals and could have had more. Can play anywhere in the attacking line. 6th down is him:



Aris are so cash strapped they are wondering if they can even afford the buy-out! I think they will sell some players to keep others.


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  • 21 de Março de 2019, 09:10
Leo Jaba and Limnios are good players? I only remember Pelkas, and he was good.

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  • 21 de Março de 2019, 11:10
Leo Jaba and Limnios are good players? I only remember Pelkas, and he was good.

Pelkas is now used more sporadically. He is not consistant enough. Some games he dominates - running through the middle of opposing teams and finding space deep in their halves. Other games - he is quiet.

Leo Jaba is probably too good for PAOK. Solid player. Makes danger. Fast. Strong. Can score. Can waltz past opposition players easily. A fighter. All this and he is only 20.

Limnios was a starter for much of the season.  Not a bad young player. Fairly fast winger who can score but for me not good enough for a club like Olympiacos.
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  • 21 de Março de 2019, 20:30
I guess PAO are going through their worst period in history atm?

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  • 22 de Março de 2019, 20:18
I guess PAO are going through their worst period in history atm?

Yes. Worst period in their history. Easily.

Judges however and media are artificially keeping them in the league the last few years as Aris and Iraklis have pointed out. They should have got minus 6 points for the abandoned game vs us last weekend, but the bribed judge saved them today. No punishment for the fans inside the stadium!!! Only a -3 for petrol bombings against police outside the stadium!!

Invading olympiacos bench with knives - no punishment.
Pitch invasion to stop game - no punishment.
Clashes with police inside stadium - no punishment.

Judge said ref was wrong to stop game!

Game to be continued from 70th minute!!!

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  • 22 de Março de 2019, 21:21
I guess PAO are going through their worst period in history atm?

Yes. Worst period in their history. Easily.

Judges however and media are artificially keeping them in the league the last few years as Aris and Iraklis have pointed out. They should have got minus 6 points for the abandoned game vs us last weekend, but the bribed judge saved them today. No punishment for the fans inside the stadium!!! Only a -3 for petrol bombings against police outside the stadium!!

Invading olympiacos bench with knives - no punishment.
Pitch invasion to stop game - no punishment.
Clashes with police inside stadium - no punishment.

Judge said ref was wrong to stop game!

Game to be continued from 70th minute!!!

Sportign in Portugal have also been going through a lot of trouble in the past 20 years or so. I mean, in the last 40 years they only won the league 4 times. Two of them in 1980 and 1982 already. Then they only won it again in 2000 and shortly afterwards in 2002. Since then, nothing. If they don't win the league this season, they'll tie their historic record of not winning the league for 17 consecutive seasons. I honestly think that, at this point, they're gonna stay at least 20 consecutive seasons without winning the league. perhaps they'll even get close to 30.

Hard to say which period of theirs was worst. From 1982 to 2000 they actually had some seasons where they had some pretty good teams, especially since a big part of that drought was encompassed by the pre-Bosman ruling days still. From 2002 to today not so much. Their teams from 2002/2003 to 2008/2009 were ok but nothing too special. Always lacking something. Their From 2009/2010 to 2012/2013 Sporting became a bigger joke and finished in embarrassing positions like 4th and 7th(their worst ever). Their best team this decade was their 15/16 team with Jesus as their manager, but yet they couldn't take the championship from us.

Sporting are very irregular overall and even when they have good teams they always have visible weak spots. They also usually have less money than Benfica and Porto, since they've been ran by very incompetent presidents in the past 40 years or so. They also haven't won two championships in a row since... 1953/1954.

Look at this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Portuguese_football_champions

I dunno how a Sporting fan can remain proud of his club...

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  • 23 de Março de 2019, 23:19
I guess PAO are going through their worst period in history atm?

Yes. Worst period in their history. Easily.

Judges however and media are artificially keeping them in the league the last few years as Aris and Iraklis have pointed out. They should have got minus 6 points for the abandoned game vs us last weekend, but the bribed judge saved them today. No punishment for the fans inside the stadium!!! Only a -3 for petrol bombings against police outside the stadium!!

Invading olympiacos bench with knives - no punishment.
Pitch invasion to stop game - no punishment.
Clashes with police inside stadium - no punishment.

Judge said ref was wrong to stop game!

Game to be continued from 70th minute!!!

Sportign in Portugal have also been going through a lot of trouble in the past 20 years or so. I mean, in the last 40 years they only won the league 4 times. Two of them in 1980 and 1982 already. Then they only won it again in 2000 and shortly afterwards in 2002. Since then, nothing. If they don't win the league this season, they'll tie their historic record of not winning the league for 17 consecutive seasons. I honestly think that, at this point, they're gonna stay at least 20 consecutive seasons without winning the league. perhaps they'll even get close to 30.

Hard to say which period of theirs was worst. From 1982 to 2000 they actually had some seasons where they had some pretty good teams, especially since a big part of that drought was encompassed by the pre-Bosman ruling days still. From 2002 to today not so much. Their teams from 2002/2003 to 2008/2009 were ok but nothing too special. Always lacking something. Their From 2009/2010 to 2012/2013 Sporting became a bigger joke and finished in embarrassing positions like 4th and 7th(their worst ever). Their best team this decade was their 15/16 team with Jesus as their manager, but yet they couldn't take the championship from us.

Sporting are very irregular overall and even when they have good teams they always have visible weak spots. They also usually have less money than Benfica and Porto, since they've been ran by very incompetent presidents in the past 40 years or so. They also haven't won two championships in a row since... 1953/1954.

Look at this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Portuguese_football_champions

I dunno how a Sporting fan can remain proud of his club...

It is a very good description. We have often compared Sporting to Panathinaikos on here - and it seems the connections go beyond very similar fans and very similar colours. I would venture Panathinaikos were once an actual power in Greece and dominated but that is in the past now. A succession of terrible owners sunk the team and their pot-head fans did the rest. They should have been relegated around 2-3 times, but Olympiacos saved them to keep the league competitive. Clubs like Iraklis with a fraction of PAO's debt were relegated however and this shows how Greece works.

I actually watched sporting a few times over the years in Europe, they used to have a player I admired called Barbosa.

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  • 24 de Março de 2019, 14:52
Our media said Vlachodimos and Samaris helped Greece win. Did you watch the game?

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  • 24 de Março de 2019, 17:01
Our media said Vlachodimos and Samaris helped Greece win. Did you watch the game?

Saw about 40 mins of it. The two Benfica boys played well. Was relieved Vlacho is now the starting keeper for Greece. He is the best keeper we have.

As for the rest, the best players in the game were Donis, Fortounis and Kourbelis. Donis's goal particularly impressive (2.11):

 

Sadly we have players in the 11 - so genuinely bad - they would not be able to get contracts for clubs in the Portuguese second division, Bakasetas being the stand out unbelievably weak player in the game.

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  • 24 de Março de 2019, 19:04


Is this the new Aris logo?

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Is this the new Aris logo?

That is the original ARIS logo from 1914 until the 1970s. I doubt they would ever drop the 'God of War' logo they currently have. Too many of their fans have it as a tattoo for one thing..  ;D

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Is this the new Aris logo?

That is the original ARIS logo from 1914 until the 1970s. I doubt they would ever drop the 'God of War' logo they currently have. Too many of their fans have it as a tattoo for one thing..  ;D
They changed their Facebook page to this. It's also their birthday I think.

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Is this the new Aris logo?

That is the original ARIS logo from 1914 until the 1970s. I doubt they would ever drop the 'God of War' logo they currently have. Too many of their fans have it as a tattoo for one thing..  ;D
They changed their Facebook page to this. It's also their birthday I think.

Yes. On birthdays Greek clubs often use their original logos. A while back Panionios (founded in 1890) even put their beautiful original blue and white logo back on their shirts.




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