Proverbial sayings from your home country

Jotenko

Figured this forum needs some positivity, and opened this thread so we can share some popular wisdom and sayings from where we are from.

I suggest we write it in our home language, then translate it to English, then write an explanation.

Sharing the first one from Portugal:

"O pior cego é aquele que não quer ver"

"The worst kind of blindness is when a man doesn't want to see."

Meaning that the worst kind of blindness is when you refuse to accept reality.

Faliro

I think one place Greece excels - besides the ability to play football in flip flops.. is their sayings.

This one is right up there:

κάτι τρέχει στα γύφτικα

As explained here:

https://www.videoman.gr/en/77301

Jotenko

Citação de: Faliro em 01 de Fevereiro de 2022, 18:02
I think one place Greece excels - besides the ability to play football in flip flops.. is their sayings.

This one is right up there:

κάτι τρέχει στα γύφτικα

As explained here:

https://www.videoman.gr/en/77301

Doesn't the woke brigade feel offended by that?

Faliro

Citação de: Jotenko em 02 de Fevereiro de 2022, 05:07
Citação de: Faliro em 01 de Fevereiro de 2022, 18:02
I think one place Greece excels - besides the ability to play football in flip flops.. is their sayings.

This one is right up there:

κάτι τρέχει στα γύφτικα

As explained here:

https://www.videoman.gr/en/77301

Doesn't the woke brigade feel offended by that?

They not so strong in Greece yet.

Celticfan

#4
Nicknames for Scottish teams-

Aberdeen- the dons
Celtic- the bhoys, the hoops
Dundee utd- the tangerines
Hibs- hibees
Hearts- jam tarts, Jambos
Partick thistle- the jags
Queens park- the spiders
Cowdenbeath- the blue Brazil
Rangers- the gers, teddy bears
Saint johnstone- the saints
Motherwell- the well
Dunfermline- the pars
Clyde- bully wee
Arbroath -smokies
Hamilton- accies

Celtic fans call each other tims
Rangers fans call each other bears

Sayings that will get your arse kicked or arrested at the wrong place:

'taig' 'fenian'- anti Irish slurs against Celtic and hibs fans. 'bead rattler'- anti Catholic term thrown at Celtic/hibs fans.

Rangers will also call Celtic fans paedophiles as a point scoring thing. Partly due to the Catholic church scandals and partly as Celtic had a feeder club in the 70s and 80s who had some scouts that abused some players. Celtic are dealing with potential pay outs in court about it and haven't handled it very well (which I hate) but it was pretty bad in British football. Rangers and many other clubs have some coaches who had issues too but it doesn't suit their agenda.

'hun'- term used by every Scottish club fan to describe rangers fans. They don't take kindly to it. Sometimes hearts are called mini huns

orange 'add swear word'. Derogatory term for rangers fans but not used as much now.

'sevco'- term used by Scottish fans to wind up rangers as a new club post going bust in 2012.

'weegie' - derogatory term for people from Glasgow

'teuchtar'-( pronounced chook-tar)derogatory term for people not from the central belt of Scotland

'sheep shaggers'- derogatory term for Aberdeen fans implying they like to have sex with sheep in the highlands.

'diddy clubs'- terms used to describe non Celtic and rangers clubs by Celtic and rangers fans.

'have you paid the face painter yet?' If a rangers fan annoys you it winds them up. When they went bust, a face painter was one of the people not paid his 100 pound fee

If you read Irvine welsh's books like trainspotting he'll use a lot of those terms. A lot of the books are set at hibs or Scotland games despite the movies not showing it.

For the record,Scottish football is nasty, petty and tribalist as fuck. We hate each other and many of the rivalries have existed for well over 100 years. Most of the time it's only for 90 minutes though then we are all pals again and at the pub later in the night excluding rivalry days. I have lots of friends that are rangers, motherwell, st mirren and thistle fans. We'll wind each other up but it's rarely nasty. With strangers you've got to be careful though, especially on game day if you are wearing colours. Especially if people are drunk or nutters.

You'll hear about sectarianism in Scotland but it's a poor term to use. After the Irish famine a ton of Irish people moved to the Scottish central belt, Liverpool and the US east coast in the 1860s. They were treated like crap by the local populations, a lot due to being Catholic in a very protestant country.

In Scotland, Celtic, Hibernian and Dundee United were traditionally the Irish/Catholic, immigrant teams for their cities. In England Everton were the Irish/Catholic club in Liverpool etc.

In the 1910s? the Harland and Wolf ship building company built a yard in Glasgow and brought over a lot of protestant workers from Belfast who latched on to the local team Rangers which intensified the rivalry between Celtic and rangers.

Until the 1990s there was still a lot of anti Irish discrimination in Scotland where if you went to a Catholic school or had an Irish sounding name you may not get a job. There was also a lot of spill over as well from the troubles in Ireland. As Irish teams suck Celtic had big supports from republican fans in northern Ireland and the republic of ireland rangers from the unionist side of northern Ireland. The support from the Republic has declined with younger generations, most are epl fan boys or have Celtic as their second club. Rangers also did not sign an openly Catholic player until the late 1980's under Graeme Souness.

The rivalry between hearts and hibs is similar but not as intense because both clubs weren't as successful and Edinburgh isn't as big into football as Glasgow.

Nowadays most people don't really care about religion in Scotland. Very few go to church regularly. It's viewed more along ethnicity lines. If you say your Catholic, your basically saying of Irish descent. You'll be baptized, first communion, maybe Christmas and Easter at church etc but it's more just because your family did it. Likewise protestant, your likely British.

Politically rangers fans are usually pro British, pro monarchy, pro northern ireland and generally more right wing leaning and have good relationships with linfield, Hamburg and Chelsea fans. They get into trouble a lot with uefa for singing anti Catholic songs.

Celtic fans are usually pro united Ireland, largely pro Scottish independence but not all, generally more left wing. We sometimes sing songs about the IRA (but we are 100% not anti protestant) which gets us into trouble sometimes with UEFA and pissed off a lot of English teams. Most of the songs refer to the IRA of the early 20th century that liberated Ireland rather than the one that bombed England in the 80s and 90s but if you don't follow Celtic you wouldn't know that and to be honest shouldn't be sung at a football ground. Celtic have a good relationship with st Pauli, Real Betis, Santos Laguna.

Celtic and Rangers also have decent support in Canada and Australia where a lot of Scottish and Irish expats moved to. Same in pockets of the US like Boston, Philadelphia, Florida. It's why I think if we played in England with the same exposure we'd be a top team there with a few years, especially with the same tv money.


Celticfan

https://youtu.be/NwKdqB_6Qcs

This is from around 2012 just after rangers died.

Both Billy Connolly and Kevin Bridges are Celtic fans

Celticfan

#7
Our national team is pretty shite. Even when we had world class players in the 60s, 70s and 80s they under achieved.

The fans are known as the tartan army.

We qualified for our first tournament in 22 years at the last euros during the height of the covid lockdown
https://youtu.be/1SSqHJagaCk

This was our adopted song for the tournament:https://youtu.be/Yea3vQttghM

One of the players sang it on his stag night and it inspired the team

We'll usually dress like this, especially for away games https://images.app.goo.gl/LjbESiNqTHdQx29x9

Sometimes with a tartan hat too.

Some Celtic fans though support the Irish national team instead or both, some rangers fans will support the English national team. Id say most support Scotland though. I'm Scotland all the way but by God they lose in the worst possible ways and usually in heart breaking fashion.

I wouldn't say scots are generally anti English but we fucking hate the English national team. Usually because the English media are always super cocky and dismissive of Scotlands team and we get London media broadcast in Scotland.

They banned the annual friendly between Scotland and England due to crowd trouble. The first ever international game was between Scotland and England in Glasgow.

https://youtu.be/7eLTAU183bQ

Jotenko



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