Luís Filipe Vieira (Presidente)

[Schuldiner]

Continuação

Spoiler

'Please, Peter, Try To Help Me'

In January 2017, Schnippe set up a loan for Atlético Madrid for exactly 10 million euros. The money actually came from the German state of Thuringia -- from the Volks- und Raiffeisenbank Bad Salzungen Schmalkalden eG. In July 2017, Schnippe wrote an email to Atlético saying that the German credit institute "would like to expand their relationship with you."

Miguel Ángel Gil declined to comment on his club's numerous credit deals. But one question remains open -- one of interest not just to the small-time savers in Bad Salzungen and in Schmalkalden: How did a banking coop in small-town eastern Germany end up loaning 10 million euros to a highly leveraged club like Atlético Madrid?

As it happens, there is a surprising link between the Volks- und Raiffeisenbank Bad Salzungen Schmalkalden and Score Capital in Munich: Dieter Althaus, the former governor of Thuringia and present-day lobbyist, is on the supervisory boards of both companies. Did he perhaps have a hand in setting up the deal? Althaus denies it, as does Schnippe. Score Capital executives simply view the loan to Atlético as a good business deal. "The professional football asset class is verifiably very low risk."

The Football Leaks documents allow for a rather different interpretation. In June 2013, Atlético CEO Gil was apparently having difficulties paying back an installment to the Singapore billionaire Peter Lim, after having borrowed 16 million euros from one of Lim's companies in Hong Kong the year before. When the Far East investors appeared to be losing their patience, Gil sent a desperate text message to his creditor.

He confirmed their partnership, promised improvement and referenced his lifetime achievements. And he asked for a payment deferral: "Please, Peter, try to help me … In any case, you'll have a friend always in Madrid. Thanks."

[fechar]

7 de Dezembro de 2018
Football Leaks reveals the reason for the transfer of Carrasco to China

The sale of Yannick Carrasco, from Atlético de Madrid, to the Chinese Dalian Yifang is one of the most unexpected produced in recent years. 'Football Leaks', a web portal - specialized for months in the publication of confidential contracts related to the world of football - has shed some light on this matter in an information published by the Belgian newspaper 'De Standaard'.

​According to the leaks, "in 2015, the player's agent, Christophe Henrotay, organized the sale of Yannick Carrasco, from AS Monaco to Atlético de Madrid. This last club endorsed a loan of banks and international institutions worth 97 million dollars, with the rights of the player ". In addition, according to this information, "the Monaco assumed that Carrasco would sell again in a period of two years (as it happened) with what the Principality team reserved 25% of the subsequent sale, while 5% of that new acquisition price was destined for Henrotay ".

​According to the 'Football Leaks' documents, Atlético de Madrid would have contracted loans from an investment company linked to the Canadian pension service, the Investment Board of the Pension Plan of Canada (CPPIB). According to the newspaper that has echoed this leak, the use of Carrasco as a guarantee is a formula that is close to what is known as 'third party property' (or TPO) expressly forbidden by FIFA in 2015 because de facto it would mean that someone who was not a football club - whether it was an individual or an investment fund - would have part of a football player and that is something that caused excesses in his day, which is why the organism came up against them.

​According to the media, both the Monaco and the agent of the player, saw Carrasco "not only as a human being, but as an investment" with which they could earn several million more. On February 26, 2018, the Belgian signed Dalian Yifang, of the Chinese Super League, the most modest club in the country, which had just regained the category. The Chinese group Wanda, which gives its name to the Atlético stadium and with which the club maintains a sponsorship, had sold its 17% stake in Atlético just two weeks earlier. Soon after, the company took over the club Dalian Yifang in their own country, and Wanda herself bought Carrasco from the Spanish capital at the same time. From all the above it is understood that the sale of the Belgian and Gaitán would respond to the need to balance accounts and return loan terms disclosed by 'Football Leaks'.

​The aforementioned Belgian newspaper includes in its information that it would have contacted all the parties, Herotay, Monaco and it is supposed that with Atlético also, who would have defended the cleanliness of those operations revealed by 'Football Leaks'. The site - whose authors declare themselves Portuguese and remain anonymous - was born in September 2015 under the premise of promoting transparency in football, although its critics accuse them of having accessed the papers through computer attacks and trying blackmail those affected.

https://www.mundodeportivo.com/futbol/atletico-madrid/20181206/453396877141/football-leaks-desvela-la-razon-del-traspaso-de-carrasco-a-china.html

Ainda me lembro do Nico ter sido vendido sem ele saber para o Atlético e toda a novela do Jiménez com os chineses.

[andoaleme]

Continuação

Spoiler

'Please, Peter, Try To Help Me'

In January 2017, Schnippe set up a loan for Atlético Madrid for exactly 10 million euros. The money actually came from the German state of Thuringia -- from the Volks- und Raiffeisenbank Bad Salzungen Schmalkalden eG. In July 2017, Schnippe wrote an email to Atlético saying that the German credit institute "would like to expand their relationship with you."

Miguel Ángel Gil declined to comment on his club's numerous credit deals. But one question remains open -- one of interest not just to the small-time savers in Bad Salzungen and in Schmalkalden: How did a banking coop in small-town eastern Germany end up loaning 10 million euros to a highly leveraged club like Atlético Madrid?

As it happens, there is a surprising link between the Volks- und Raiffeisenbank Bad Salzungen Schmalkalden and Score Capital in Munich: Dieter Althaus, the former governor of Thuringia and present-day lobbyist, is on the supervisory boards of both companies. Did he perhaps have a hand in setting up the deal? Althaus denies it, as does Schnippe. Score Capital executives simply view the loan to Atlético as a good business deal. "The professional football asset class is verifiably very low risk."

The Football Leaks documents allow for a rather different interpretation. In June 2013, Atlético CEO Gil was apparently having difficulties paying back an installment to the Singapore billionaire Peter Lim, after having borrowed 16 million euros from one of Lim's companies in Hong Kong the year before. When the Far East investors appeared to be losing their patience, Gil sent a desperate text message to his creditor.

He confirmed their partnership, promised improvement and referenced his lifetime achievements. And he asked for a payment deferral: "Please, Peter, try to help me … In any case, you'll have a friend always in Madrid. Thanks."

[fechar]

7 de Dezembro de 2018
Football Leaks reveals the reason for the transfer of Carrasco to China

The sale of Yannick Carrasco, from Atlético de Madrid, to the Chinese Dalian Yifang is one of the most unexpected produced in recent years. 'Football Leaks', a web portal - specialized for months in the publication of confidential contracts related to the world of football - has shed some light on this matter in an information published by the Belgian newspaper 'De Standaard'.

​According to the leaks, "in 2015, the player's agent, Christophe Henrotay, organized the sale of Yannick Carrasco, from AS Monaco to Atlético de Madrid. This last club endorsed a loan of banks and international institutions worth 97 million dollars, with the rights of the player ". In addition, according to this information, "the Monaco assumed that Carrasco would sell again in a period of two years (as it happened) with what the Principality team reserved 25% of the subsequent sale, while 5% of that new acquisition price was destined for Henrotay ".

​According to the 'Football Leaks' documents, Atlético de Madrid would have contracted loans from an investment company linked to the Canadian pension service, the Investment Board of the Pension Plan of Canada (CPPIB). According to the newspaper that has echoed this leak, the use of Carrasco as a guarantee is a formula that is close to what is known as 'third party property' (or TPO) expressly forbidden by FIFA in 2015 because de facto it would mean that someone who was not a football club - whether it was an individual or an investment fund - would have part of a football player and that is something that caused excesses in his day, which is why the organism came up against them.

​According to the media, both the Monaco and the agent of the player, saw Carrasco "not only as a human being, but as an investment" with which they could earn several million more. On February 26, 2018, the Belgian signed Dalian Yifang, of the Chinese Super League, the most modest club in the country, which had just regained the category. The Chinese group Wanda, which gives its name to the Atlético stadium and with which the club maintains a sponsorship, had sold its 17% stake in Atlético just two weeks earlier. Soon after, the company took over the club Dalian Yifang in their own country, and Wanda herself bought Carrasco from the Spanish capital at the same time. From all the above it is understood that the sale of the Belgian and Gaitán would respond to the need to balance accounts and return loan terms disclosed by 'Football Leaks'.

​The aforementioned Belgian newspaper includes in its information that it would have contacted all the parties, Herotay, Monaco and it is supposed that with Atlético also, who would have defended the cleanliness of those operations revealed by 'Football Leaks'. The site - whose authors declare themselves Portuguese and remain anonymous - was born in September 2015 under the premise of promoting transparency in football, although its critics accuse them of having accessed the papers through computer attacks and trying blackmail those affected.

https://www.mundodeportivo.com/futbol/atletico-madrid/20181206/453396877141/football-leaks-desvela-la-razon-del-traspaso-de-carrasco-a-china.html

Ainda me lembro do Nico ter sido vendido sem ele saber para o Atlético e toda a novela do Jiménez com os chineses.

Virámos um clube de fachada, onde a vertente desportiva é meramente acessória.

[Schuldiner]

Continuação

Spoiler

'Please, Peter, Try To Help Me'

In January 2017, Schnippe set up a loan for Atlético Madrid for exactly 10 million euros. The money actually came from the German state of Thuringia -- from the Volks- und Raiffeisenbank Bad Salzungen Schmalkalden eG. In July 2017, Schnippe wrote an email to Atlético saying that the German credit institute "would like to expand their relationship with you."

Miguel Ángel Gil declined to comment on his club's numerous credit deals. But one question remains open -- one of interest not just to the small-time savers in Bad Salzungen and in Schmalkalden: How did a banking coop in small-town eastern Germany end up loaning 10 million euros to a highly leveraged club like Atlético Madrid?

As it happens, there is a surprising link between the Volks- und Raiffeisenbank Bad Salzungen Schmalkalden and Score Capital in Munich: Dieter Althaus, the former governor of Thuringia and present-day lobbyist, is on the supervisory boards of both companies. Did he perhaps have a hand in setting up the deal? Althaus denies it, as does Schnippe. Score Capital executives simply view the loan to Atlético as a good business deal. "The professional football asset class is verifiably very low risk."

The Football Leaks documents allow for a rather different interpretation. In June 2013, Atlético CEO Gil was apparently having difficulties paying back an installment to the Singapore billionaire Peter Lim, after having borrowed 16 million euros from one of Lim's companies in Hong Kong the year before. When the Far East investors appeared to be losing their patience, Gil sent a desperate text message to his creditor.

He confirmed their partnership, promised improvement and referenced his lifetime achievements. And he asked for a payment deferral: "Please, Peter, try to help me … In any case, you'll have a friend always in Madrid. Thanks."

[fechar]

7 de Dezembro de 2018
Football Leaks reveals the reason for the transfer of Carrasco to China

The sale of Yannick Carrasco, from Atlético de Madrid, to the Chinese Dalian Yifang is one of the most unexpected produced in recent years. 'Football Leaks', a web portal - specialized for months in the publication of confidential contracts related to the world of football - has shed some light on this matter in an information published by the Belgian newspaper 'De Standaard'.

​According to the leaks, "in 2015, the player's agent, Christophe Henrotay, organized the sale of Yannick Carrasco, from AS Monaco to Atlético de Madrid. This last club endorsed a loan of banks and international institutions worth 97 million dollars, with the rights of the player ". In addition, according to this information, "the Monaco assumed that Carrasco would sell again in a period of two years (as it happened) with what the Principality team reserved 25% of the subsequent sale, while 5% of that new acquisition price was destined for Henrotay ".

​According to the 'Football Leaks' documents, Atlético de Madrid would have contracted loans from an investment company linked to the Canadian pension service, the Investment Board of the Pension Plan of Canada (CPPIB). According to the newspaper that has echoed this leak, the use of Carrasco as a guarantee is a formula that is close to what is known as 'third party property' (or TPO) expressly forbidden by FIFA in 2015 because de facto it would mean that someone who was not a football club - whether it was an individual or an investment fund - would have part of a football player and that is something that caused excesses in his day, which is why the organism came up against them.

​According to the media, both the Monaco and the agent of the player, saw Carrasco "not only as a human being, but as an investment" with which they could earn several million more. On February 26, 2018, the Belgian signed Dalian Yifang, of the Chinese Super League, the most modest club in the country, which had just regained the category. The Chinese group Wanda, which gives its name to the Atlético stadium and with which the club maintains a sponsorship, had sold its 17% stake in Atlético just two weeks earlier. Soon after, the company took over the club Dalian Yifang in their own country, and Wanda herself bought Carrasco from the Spanish capital at the same time. From all the above it is understood that the sale of the Belgian and Gaitán would respond to the need to balance accounts and return loan terms disclosed by 'Football Leaks'.

​The aforementioned Belgian newspaper includes in its information that it would have contacted all the parties, Herotay, Monaco and it is supposed that with Atlético also, who would have defended the cleanliness of those operations revealed by 'Football Leaks'. The site - whose authors declare themselves Portuguese and remain anonymous - was born in September 2015 under the premise of promoting transparency in football, although its critics accuse them of having accessed the papers through computer attacks and trying blackmail those affected.

https://www.mundodeportivo.com/futbol/atletico-madrid/20181206/453396877141/football-leaks-desvela-la-razon-del-traspaso-de-carrasco-a-china.html

Ainda me lembro do Nico ter sido vendido sem ele saber para o Atlético e toda a novela do Jiménez com os chineses.

Virámos um clube de fachada, onde a vertente desportiva é meramente acessória.

O projecto desportivo é um faz de conta, não é prioridade e a prova disso é a gestão do dossier treinador, só interessa mesmo quando sente o poleiro a abanar, ganha-se um título aqui e acolá para segurar o poleiro, depois capitaliza-se e espreme-se os clientes.

Não acontece só no Benfica, mas é o Benfica que me interessa e o Vieira é um presidente caríssimo, custa muito mais que muitos outros todos juntos.

[Jar Jay]

Drgão de ouro

[Tsu]

Parabéns por mais 3 pontos do teu clube

[Starix]

Eu sinceramente não consigo perceber porque é que não tentam pôr essas informações escandalosas sobre o Vieira e o Novo Banco cá para fora.

A esmagadora maioria dos benfiquistas não sabe nada disso. Por isso, assim claro que continuam a votar no Vieira.

[ARRG]

ODEIO-TE
ODEIO-TE
ODEIO-TE
ODEIO-TE
ODEIO-TE

[Jar Jay]

.

[andoaleme]

Continuação

Spoiler

'Please, Peter, Try To Help Me'

In January 2017, Schnippe set up a loan for Atlético Madrid for exactly 10 million euros. The money actually came from the German state of Thuringia -- from the Volks- und Raiffeisenbank Bad Salzungen Schmalkalden eG. In July 2017, Schnippe wrote an email to Atlético saying that the German credit institute "would like to expand their relationship with you."

Miguel Ángel Gil declined to comment on his club's numerous credit deals. But one question remains open -- one of interest not just to the small-time savers in Bad Salzungen and in Schmalkalden: How did a banking coop in small-town eastern Germany end up loaning 10 million euros to a highly leveraged club like Atlético Madrid?

As it happens, there is a surprising link between the Volks- und Raiffeisenbank Bad Salzungen Schmalkalden and Score Capital in Munich: Dieter Althaus, the former governor of Thuringia and present-day lobbyist, is on the supervisory boards of both companies. Did he perhaps have a hand in setting up the deal? Althaus denies it, as does Schnippe. Score Capital executives simply view the loan to Atlético as a good business deal. "The professional football asset class is verifiably very low risk."

The Football Leaks documents allow for a rather different interpretation. In June 2013, Atlético CEO Gil was apparently having difficulties paying back an installment to the Singapore billionaire Peter Lim, after having borrowed 16 million euros from one of Lim's companies in Hong Kong the year before. When the Far East investors appeared to be losing their patience, Gil sent a desperate text message to his creditor.

He confirmed their partnership, promised improvement and referenced his lifetime achievements. And he asked for a payment deferral: "Please, Peter, try to help me … In any case, you'll have a friend always in Madrid. Thanks."

[fechar]

7 de Dezembro de 2018
Football Leaks reveals the reason for the transfer of Carrasco to China

The sale of Yannick Carrasco, from Atlético de Madrid, to the Chinese Dalian Yifang is one of the most unexpected produced in recent years. 'Football Leaks', a web portal - specialized for months in the publication of confidential contracts related to the world of football - has shed some light on this matter in an information published by the Belgian newspaper 'De Standaard'.

​According to the leaks, "in 2015, the player's agent, Christophe Henrotay, organized the sale of Yannick Carrasco, from AS Monaco to Atlético de Madrid. This last club endorsed a loan of banks and international institutions worth 97 million dollars, with the rights of the player ". In addition, according to this information, "the Monaco assumed that Carrasco would sell again in a period of two years (as it happened) with what the Principality team reserved 25% of the subsequent sale, while 5% of that new acquisition price was destined for Henrotay ".

​According to the 'Football Leaks' documents, Atlético de Madrid would have contracted loans from an investment company linked to the Canadian pension service, the Investment Board of the Pension Plan of Canada (CPPIB). According to the newspaper that has echoed this leak, the use of Carrasco as a guarantee is a formula that is close to what is known as 'third party property' (or TPO) expressly forbidden by FIFA in 2015 because de facto it would mean that someone who was not a football club - whether it was an individual or an investment fund - would have part of a football player and that is something that caused excesses in his day, which is why the organism came up against them.

​According to the media, both the Monaco and the agent of the player, saw Carrasco "not only as a human being, but as an investment" with which they could earn several million more. On February 26, 2018, the Belgian signed Dalian Yifang, of the Chinese Super League, the most modest club in the country, which had just regained the category. The Chinese group Wanda, which gives its name to the Atlético stadium and with which the club maintains a sponsorship, had sold its 17% stake in Atlético just two weeks earlier. Soon after, the company took over the club Dalian Yifang in their own country, and Wanda herself bought Carrasco from the Spanish capital at the same time. From all the above it is understood that the sale of the Belgian and Gaitán would respond to the need to balance accounts and return loan terms disclosed by 'Football Leaks'.

​The aforementioned Belgian newspaper includes in its information that it would have contacted all the parties, Herotay, Monaco and it is supposed that with Atlético also, who would have defended the cleanliness of those operations revealed by 'Football Leaks'. The site - whose authors declare themselves Portuguese and remain anonymous - was born in September 2015 under the premise of promoting transparency in football, although its critics accuse them of having accessed the papers through computer attacks and trying blackmail those affected.

https://www.mundodeportivo.com/futbol/atletico-madrid/20181206/453396877141/football-leaks-desvela-la-razon-del-traspaso-de-carrasco-a-china.html

Ainda me lembro do Nico ter sido vendido sem ele saber para o Atlético e toda a novela do Jiménez com os chineses.

Virámos um clube de fachada, onde a vertente desportiva é meramente acessória.

O projecto desportivo é um faz de conta, não é prioridade e a prova disso é a gestão do dossier treinador, só interessa mesmo quando sente o poleiro a abanar, ganha-se um título aqui e acolá para segurar o poleiro, depois capitaliza-se e espreme-se os clientes.

Não acontece só no Benfica, mas é o Benfica que me interessa e o Vieira é um presidente caríssimo, custa muito mais que muitos outros todos juntos.

É exactamente isso, daí o incomodo notório das várias investigações em curso, não que esbarrem em esquemas de corrupção ou tráfico de influências que pudessem vir a favorecer o clube desportivamente, porque esta corja não tem sequer isso em pensamento, logo não acredito nas teorias de actos ilícitos continuados no enquadramento meramente desportivo.

Por estes factos e outros que são irrefutáveis e públicos, não compreendo os sócios que tomam a defesa de Vieira, dum tipo que se passeava com o nosso adversário, que insiste em constituir-se inimigo perseguidor, um gajo que levou um clube à insolvência e o envolveu em negociatas escusas, caiu aqui de pára-quedas pelo grupo do cimento, nunca ninguém o viu envolvido nos vários movimentos de sócios, numa AG e com a precariedade financeira que grassa na suas empresas, nem um discurso sabe ler, propagador de loas num português grosseiro e precário, sendo esta a figura que muitos se revêem.

[danielpm]

Anseio pelo dia em que saias do meu Clube!

[guizuca]

Já merece uma estátua no museu do dragão.

[eaglerp]

Tá na hora de dar o lugar a outro....

[miniMilk]

ate te daria os parabéns por seres campeão mas jogar ao tugao boicotando o rival não traz grande mérito

Quer dizer. Até traz, porque ainda és aplaudido e dizem que és um vencedor e o crl

[Semper Fidelis]

ainda só vamos a 7!
ainda não estou preocupado!

[Jar Jay]

Fico fodido com isto tudo.. Vieira é um presidente manchado, ninguem leva o gajo a serio.. acabou

E não vejo ninguem com colhões pra correr com este maldito