Hellas futebol

[Godescalco]

I really like AEK's new stadium.

I have a soft spot for Byzantine themes.

[Faliro]

I really like AEK's new stadium.

I have a soft spot for Byzantine themes.

It's actually looking really good:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ozznbmn5_s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpUDW9PRUhA

[Faliro]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10952059/Nottingham-Forest-confirm-signing-Union-Berlin-forward-Taiwo-Awoniyi-club-record-fee.html

[Festivus]

I bought Civilization 6 recently. I've noticed Alexander the Great is no longer Greek in the game like he had always been but now is... the leader of Macedonia. The Greek leaders are Pericles and Gorgo. And the Byzantine leader is Basil II.

[Faliro]

I bought Civilization 6 recently. I've noticed Alexander the Great is no longer Greek in the game like he had always been but now is... the leader of Macedonia. The Greek leaders are Pericles and Gorgo. And the Byzantine leader is Basil II.

Indeed, cultural and historical revisionism in real time. Just glad he isn't "Alexandretski" yet..

Most bizarre thing is, in these days of intense self identification.. the one person ignored is Alexander, who constantly referred to himself as a Greek (Hellene)..

[Festivus]

I bought Civilization 6 recently. I've noticed Alexander the Great is no longer Greek in the game like he had always been but now is... the leader of Macedonia. The Greek leaders are Pericles and Gorgo. And the Byzantine leader is Basil II.

Indeed, cultural and historical revisionism in real time. Just glad he isn't "Alexandretski" yet..

Most bizarre thing is, in these days of intense self identification.. the one person ignored is Alexander, who constantly referred to himself as a Greek (Hellene)..

Plus wasn't the Ancient Macedonian kingdom pretty much Greek in terms of culture and language anyway? They also believed in the same gods as the Greeks didn't they?

The current nation of FYROM/Northern Macedonia speaks Macedonian, a Slavic language. I don't think the country is culturaly similar to Greece anymore.

[Faliro]

I bought Civilization 6 recently. I've noticed Alexander the Great is no longer Greek in the game like he had always been but now is... the leader of Macedonia. The Greek leaders are Pericles and Gorgo. And the Byzantine leader is Basil II.

Indeed, cultural and historical revisionism in real time. Just glad he isn't "Alexandretski" yet..

Most bizarre thing is, in these days of intense self identification.. the one person ignored is Alexander, who constantly referred to himself as a Greek (Hellene)..

Plus wasn't the Ancient Macedonian kingdom pretty much Greek in terms of culture and language anyway? They also believed in the same gods as the Greeks didn't they?

The current nation of FYROM/Northern Macedonia speaks Macedonian, a Slavic language. I don't think the country is culturaly similar to Greece anymore.

This country was never Macedonia.. Greece still has over 90% of ancient Macedonia..



Ancient Macedonians spoke and wrote in Greek - not disputed.
Worshipped Greek gods.
Were Greek culturally.
Were Greek genetically.
Were allowed to compete in the Olympic games (only Greeks were allowed this honour).
Etc etc.

Modern Northern Macedonians are just Bulgarians who arrived in the region circa 800 AD. The Byzantine Greeks tried to hellenize these invaders but failed. So they still speak slavic. The whole thing is a scam and Greece's fault for not invading that country and breaking it up into small pieces.

[Festivus]

I bought Civilization 6 recently. I've noticed Alexander the Great is no longer Greek in the game like he had always been but now is... the leader of Macedonia. The Greek leaders are Pericles and Gorgo. And the Byzantine leader is Basil II.

Indeed, cultural and historical revisionism in real time. Just glad he isn't "Alexandretski" yet..

Most bizarre thing is, in these days of intense self identification.. the one person ignored is Alexander, who constantly referred to himself as a Greek (Hellene)..

Plus wasn't the Ancient Macedonian kingdom pretty much Greek in terms of culture and language anyway? They also believed in the same gods as the Greeks didn't they?

The current nation of FYROM/Northern Macedonia speaks Macedonian, a Slavic language. I don't think the country is culturaly similar to Greece anymore.

This country was never Macedonia.. Greece still has over 90% of ancient Macedonia..



Ancient Macedonians spoke and wrote in Greek - not disputed.
Worshipped Greek gods.
Were Greek culturally.
Were Greek genetically.
Were allowed to compete in the Olympic games (only Greeks were allowed this honour).
Etc etc.

Modern Northern Macedonians are just Bulgarians who arrived in the region circa 800 AD. The Byzantine Greeks tried to hellenize these invaders but failed. So they still speak slavic. The whole thing is a scam and Greece's fault for not invading that country and breaking it up into small pieces.

I wonder why they claim the name Macedonia and didn't think of a new name instead.

I believe Romans eventually were allowed to take part in the Olympics? That is, if Asterix is correct. That might have been when the Romans conquered Greece.

[Faliro]

I bought Civilization 6 recently. I've noticed Alexander the Great is no longer Greek in the game like he had always been but now is... the leader of Macedonia. The Greek leaders are Pericles and Gorgo. And the Byzantine leader is Basil II.

Indeed, cultural and historical revisionism in real time. Just glad he isn't "Alexandretski" yet..

Most bizarre thing is, in these days of intense self identification.. the one person ignored is Alexander, who constantly referred to himself as a Greek (Hellene)..

Plus wasn't the Ancient Macedonian kingdom pretty much Greek in terms of culture and language anyway? They also believed in the same gods as the Greeks didn't they?

The current nation of FYROM/Northern Macedonia speaks Macedonian, a Slavic language. I don't think the country is culturaly similar to Greece anymore.

This country was never Macedonia.. Greece still has over 90% of ancient Macedonia..



Ancient Macedonians spoke and wrote in Greek - not disputed.
Worshipped Greek gods.
Were Greek culturally.
Were Greek genetically.
Were allowed to compete in the Olympic games (only Greeks were allowed this honour).
Etc etc.

Modern Northern Macedonians are just Bulgarians who arrived in the region circa 800 AD. The Byzantine Greeks tried to hellenize these invaders but failed. So they still speak slavic. The whole thing is a scam and Greece's fault for not invading that country and breaking it up into small pieces.

I wonder why they claim the name Macedonia and didn't think of a new name instead.

I believe Romans eventually were allowed to take part in the Olympics? That is, if Asterix is correct. That might have been when the Romans conquered Greece.

Tito created the country in order to create a pretext to invade Northern Greece and get the Mediterranean port he so desired. The country didn't exist before Tito.

All explained here:

https://www.csmonitor.com/1992/1028/28191.html

I believe after Greece was conquered by Rome, Rome could do as it pleased. Before that, only Greek states, including the colonies in Magna Grecia could participate. Alexander the Great actually won the Olympics.

[Festivus]

Ah OK so that's how the country was formed.

Btw, Skopje apparently is a city full of statues. They even have a statue of Alexander there. But they officially call it The Great Warrior. I guess if they officially called the statue Alexander the Great Greece would get really upset.

The Balkans have very confusing history...

[Faliro]

Ah OK so that's how the country was formed.

Btw, Skopje apparently is a city full of statues. They even have a statue of Alexander there. But they officially call it The Great Warrior. I guess if they officially called the statue Alexander the Great Greece would get really upset.

The Balkans have very confusing history...

It's quite simple. Many states need history to feel real. Albanians pretend they are ancient Illyrians.. Bulgaria used to claim the Thracians. Skopje now claims the Macedonians... both peoples are simply slavs documented as coming down around the 6th century AD. The Byzantines deported most the slavs that made it into Greece proper, Nicephorus I deported the majority to Anatolia hence why you get fair Turks in central Turkey.. However there were too many to deport from Bulgaria.. so they are still there.. The Byzantines simply gave up trying to re-hellenize the Balkans.. This is why the area is messy, but it became nuclear when the Ottomans entered the region and converted the Albanians and Bosnians to Islam. The region never recovered.

[Covenant]

Bernard --> Panathinaikos.

[Faliro]

Bernard --> Panathinaikos.

Yes, they are trying this season.. Sporar, Bernard, Verbic etc..

Will be nice to have a name like Bernard in Greece..

[Covenant]

Bernard --> Panathinaikos.

Yes, they are trying this season.. Sporar, Bernard, Verbic etc..

Will be nice to have a name like Bernard in Greece..

Let's see if he wants to play or just wants to enjoy Greece. 😅

[Faliro]

Bernard --> Panathinaikos.

Yes, they are trying this season.. Sporar, Bernard, Verbic etc..

Will be nice to have a name like Bernard in Greece..

Let's see if he wants to play or just wants to enjoy Greece. 😅

We already know the answer file.. 

BTW, De La Fuente looked good for us tonight.

As for the rest, Aris look strong again this season.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pLNmY8K9aNo