Hellas futebol

[Festivus]

Aren't you like 30, though? You only became a fan of your team as an adult? Interesting and quite uncommon. And here I thought a person's football team was chosen when they're a little kid. I mean you said you supported Barcelona back then, but you like Olympiacos more, don't you? You'd support them over Barcelona, I'm guessing?

[Faliro]

Aren't you like 30, though? You only became a fan of your team as an adult? Interesting and quite uncommon. And here I thought a person's football team was chosen when they're a little kid. I mean you said you supported Barcelona back then, but you like Olympiacos more, don't you? You'd support them over Barcelona, I'm guessing?

I am approaching my mid 30s now..

It is complicated indeed because of mixed allegiances. Indeed it is very rare to start supporting a club so late. I was probably in my early 20s when I started paying to go to Olympiakos games (which to me is the point you know you like a club). And it truly pissed of all my cousins in Greece who are diehard AEK. One of them had bought me a Tsiartas AEK away top when I was 16. When he saw me going one day going to the Karaiskaki, he never trusted me again or spoke to me much again.  But again, I was curious about Greek fan culture and I lived near the Greek area of London.. so it made sense.

Also I always like the underdog. Olympiakos may be the opposite to an underdog in Greece, but in Europe they are massive underdogs, so every goal they scored was always more of a celebration for me. Watching Greece win Euro 2004 or Olympiakos beating Werder Bremen 1-3 are probably the times I have screamed the loudest in my life.. 

Every time Barcelona score I feel happy, really really good. I really like Barcelona - the whole place. If Olympiakos were to play Barcelona I think I would support Olympiakos.. I would like to see Olymiakos achieve something in Europe before I die.. 

[PsychoFan]

You share my tastes Faliro.

Barça. La Liga. Not caring about English football, which like you, I found it very poor. And now, you make me kinda support Olympiakos. And I think the same with Benfica for you, no?

[Faliro]

^^ Oh yea, I really like Benfica now. I like the whole energy around the club, the fans obviously and that is all because of this place. Picking a club to support is a very personal thing and I have been around 100s of supporters and clubs and I never was even tempted to support their clubs..

I feel like I am so much wiser for having been allowed to post here and learn from you guys.

I also hope that I have increased your knowledge of the strange and beautiful Greece. 

[Festivus]

You've mentioned that we were the most globally educated fans of any sports team you had ever met . Have you ever joined other teams forums. If so, who'd you say were the least globally educated sports fans you've met?

[Faliro]

You've mentioned that we were the most globally educated fans of any sports team you had ever met . Have you ever joined other teams forums. If so, who'd you say were the least globally educated sports fans you've met?

Yes, that is what I stated and I meant it. Easily the best educated football fans concerning the global game are Benfica fans. Will never get over that - going on a Benfica forum and meeting people who know more about Greek football than I do... Knowledge of Serbian football, Italian football, South American football etc.. simply a ridiculous encyclopedic knowledge of football.

I have joined a few forums in my life and met many fans. The least educated about the actual game of football? Man United, Real Madrid and Man City fans (Man City even before they were bought out by rich arabs). They see very little outside their own clubs. The first time they hear about most famous players is when they are linked to them in transfer rumours.

I really like Madrid when I visited, however they - along with most castellanos in general - just seem to nothing in general - about anything.

Some of the nastiest fans I have dealt with are Tottenham fans, West Ham and Roma fans.
The biggest natural hooligans - PAOK.. no competition. Victim clubs - ie where the fans live in a world of complaining 24/7 - Arsenal, Fulham and PAO.

[Festivus]

You've mentioned that we were the most globally educated fans of any sports team you had ever met . Have you ever joined other teams forums. If so, who'd you say were the least globally educated sports fans you've met?

Yes, that is what I stated and I meant it. Easily the best educated football fans concerning the global game are Benfica fans. Will never get over that - going on a Benfica forum and meeting people who know more about Greek football than I do...

I have joined a few forums in my life and met many fans. The least educated about the actual game of football? Man United, Real Madrid and Man City fans. They see very little outside their own clubs. The first time they hear about most famous players is when they are linked to them in transfer rumours.

I really like Madrid when I visited, however they - along with most castellanos in general - just seem to nothing in general - about anything.

Some of the nastiest fans I have dealt with are Tottenham fans, West Ham and Roma fans.
The biggest natural hooligans - PAOK.. no competition. Victim clubs - ie where the fans live in a world of complaining 24/7 - Arsenal, Fulham and PAO.

Haven't met big samples of foreign fans, but from my experience Chelsea fans were arrogant assholes and were mostly American. Not to mention they didn't know anything about football pre-2006... unsurprising. Also, I disliked their disrespect for Benfica. Okay, I don't blame them for being confident in a win against us because they have better teams and way bigger transfer budgets but they spoke about us as if we were a tiny club with no relevance whatsoever. They were extremely ignorant and arrogant. Maybe I've just met the wrong ones...

[Faliro]

You've mentioned that we were the most globally educated fans of any sports team you had ever met . Have you ever joined other teams forums. If so, who'd you say were the least globally educated sports fans you've met?

Yes, that is what I stated and I meant it. Easily the best educated football fans concerning the global game are Benfica fans. Will never get over that - going on a Benfica forum and meeting people who know more about Greek football than I do...

I have joined a few forums in my life and met many fans. The least educated about the actual game of football? Man United, Real Madrid and Man City fans. They see very little outside their own clubs. The first time they hear about most famous players is when they are linked to them in transfer rumours.

I really like Madrid when I visited, however they - along with most castellanos in general - just seem to nothing in general - about anything.

Some of the nastiest fans I have dealt with are Tottenham fans, West Ham and Roma fans.
The biggest natural hooligans - PAOK.. no competition. Victim clubs - ie where the fans live in a world of complaining 24/7 - Arsenal, Fulham and PAO.

Haven't met big samples of foreign fans, but from my experience Chelsea fans were arrogant assholes and were mostly American. Not to mention they didn't know anything about football pre-2006... unsurprising. Also, I disliked their disrespect for Benfica. Okay, I don't blame them for being confident in a win against us because they have better teams and way bigger transfer budgets but they spoke about us as if we were a tiny club with no relevance whatsoever. They were extremely ignorant and arrogant. Maybe I've just met the wrong ones...

The worst fans of Chelsea are the away fans. They are the ones that have been banned from home games because of violence/hooliganism.  I remember watching a game with them at Everton - some of the abuse - in front of children they brought with them!! was insane. There are some truly tragic Chelsea fans. Strangely this has become the norm for Chelsea. Before abramovich there were far more genuine fans at the club, but most were priced out as the club developed into a major business. That left only the hooligans and soulless glory hunters lot at the games. However i went to games before Abramovich and I still found the club unattractive in general.

As for their disrespect for Benfica, they disrespect all clubs. The most popular chant I remember when I used to go to games was.. 'we are the famous CFC..and we don't give a fuck..whoever you may be!'

[Festivus]

You've mentioned that we were the most globally educated fans of any sports team you had ever met . Have you ever joined other teams forums. If so, who'd you say were the least globally educated sports fans you've met?

Yes, that is what I stated and I meant it. Easily the best educated football fans concerning the global game are Benfica fans. Will never get over that - going on a Benfica forum and meeting people who know more about Greek football than I do...

I have joined a few forums in my life and met many fans. The least educated about the actual game of football? Man United, Real Madrid and Man City fans. They see very little outside their own clubs. The first time they hear about most famous players is when they are linked to them in transfer rumours.

I really like Madrid when I visited, however they - along with most castellanos in general - just seem to nothing in general - about anything.

Some of the nastiest fans I have dealt with are Tottenham fans, West Ham and Roma fans.
The biggest natural hooligans - PAOK.. no competition. Victim clubs - ie where the fans live in a world of complaining 24/7 - Arsenal, Fulham and PAO.

Haven't met big samples of foreign fans, but from my experience Chelsea fans were arrogant assholes and were mostly American. Not to mention they didn't know anything about football pre-2006... unsurprising. Also, I disliked their disrespect for Benfica. Okay, I don't blame them for being confident in a win against us because they have better teams and way bigger transfer budgets but they spoke about us as if we were a tiny club with no relevance whatsoever. They were extremely ignorant and arrogant. Maybe I've just met the wrong ones...

The worst fans of Chelsea are the away fans. They are the ones that have been banned from home games because of violence/hooliganism.  I remember watching a game with them at Everton - some of the abuse - in front of children they brought with them!! was insane. There are some truly tragic Chelsea fans. Strangely this has become the norm for Chelsea. Before abramovich there were far more genuine fans at the club, but most were priced out as the club developed into a major business. That left only the hooligans and soulless glory hunters lot at the games. However i went to games before Abramovich and I still found the club unattractive in general.

As for their disrespect for Benfica, they disrespect all clubs. The most popular chant I remember when I used to go to games was.. 'we are the famous CFC..and we don't give a fuck..whoever you may be!'

They sound like Turkish fans. Those even spam their opponents' facebook pages with insults. Fenerbahçe's fans were huge cunts here in 2013 and even their press disrespected us. Turkish hooligans make English ones look like school children. Leeds United hooligans know that damn well from their visit to Instanbul many years ago.

As for English teams fans in general, from my experience:

Man Utd: Arrogant and feel entitled to win all the time. Also think they're gonna win everything every damn season.

Arsenal: Boring as shit. A bunch of conformists.

Liverpool: Passionate but a bit too emotive and irrational at times.

Everton: Chill and passionate for the most part. No negative experiences thus far.

Spurs: A huge inferiority complex with Arsenal and also many Americans support them just to feel hipsterish and cool. How corny.

Man City: Either teenage americans who just started watching football or English men in their 20s-30s who've been fans since forever and are impatiently waiting for their club to win the CL. They keep complaining about their draws and refs in Europe and also excusing their ranking for poor european performances.

[Faliro]

Agree completely about the Turkish fans. Leeds and indeed the UK hooligan fraternity learnt that the hard way. Gala are the worst. PAOK went to play Fener and beat up pretty much everyone they came across, even stopping their own coaches in the middle of Istanbul to beat up random turks..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JCker4-O7M

I think Turks in general, as far as football education goes, make Man U fans look like MENSA United in comparison. Their media as you stated is hostile however Besiktas and Fener fans are not hard to dominate. Gala are the real spicy pigs..

In general, many fans emulate the worst aspects of their society in general. You really get the feeling of the failed British Empire when you meet Chelsea fans.. Animalistic Turks with knives reminds us of the Ottomans marching through Europe.

Again agree with all your summations of the English clubs, especially Liverpool and Man City. Special mention to Rangers and Lazio who I just remembered.. who are a bunch of nasty pricks also.

As far as Spurs go, they have a constant rotation of new fans... An American or Korean exchange student will tell everyone they like/support Spurs...than they actually go to a game... than they don't talk about Spurs again... Also Spurs has a ridiculous jewish culture. I have met many London jews who support Spurs simply because they hope that the club represents them.. again, they have never been to an actual game..

[PsychoFan]

 

[T1n0_SLB]

Turkish fans look like girls when facing PAOK fans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDCAFiEeyAs


Alguém que diga ao Faliro pra me tirar na lista negra.

[Festivus]

Ele meteu-te na ignore list?

[T1n0_SLB]

Parece que sim, culpa do VP.

[Festivus]

Faliro take Tino off your ignore list for a moment. He wants you to check out a video he posted.