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StellaRojas

Citação de: Fernando_SLB em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:44
Citação de: StellaRojas em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:41
Citação de: Fernando_SLB em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:39
Citação de: StellaRojas em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:36
Citação de: Fernando_SLB em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:26
Serbia is special case... violence is genetic since first world war 😂😂

Would should that mean now? Throughout our history we have never been violent, or attacking anyone first. And First World War was a defensive war ( Austro-Hungary declared war on us, using Ferdinand's assassination as a pretext) in which we had a number of glorious victories and suffered a great deal, retreating over Albania and breaking through the Salonica front.

I Know who start 😎 but what I mean is that Balkans always violent.  Since wwI and then in Yugoslavia times.

It's an habit.

The Balkans are at the intersection of many roads, making it a desirable target for many foreign powers. So, yes, we are used to defending ourselves and unfortunately, had to go through a number of wars.

Violence is violence 😂 defensive or attacking 😛 and we get use to.
Goes deep in the soul 😁

I tend to think of violence as mainly offensive, but OK. And truth be said, in spite of all these wars we had to fight, Serbs are not overly violent people. More than the Swiss for example, but we also prefer peace, fighting only when we have to.

Faliro

Citação de: Fernando_SLB em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:44
Citação de: StellaRojas em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:41
Citação de: Fernando_SLB em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:39
Citação de: StellaRojas em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:36
Citação de: Fernando_SLB em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:26
Serbia is special case... violence is genetic since first world war 😂😂

Would should that mean now? Throughout our history we have never been violent, or attacking anyone first. And First World War was a defensive war ( Austro-Hungary declared war on us, using Ferdinand's assassination as a pretext) in which we had a number of glorious victories and suffered a great deal, retreating over Albania and breaking through the Salonica front.

I Know who start 😎 but what I mean is that Balkans always violent.  Since wwI and then in Yugoslavia times.

It's an habit.

The Balkans are at the intersection of many roads, making it a desirable target for many foreign powers. So, yes, we are used to defending ourselves and unfortunately, had to go through a number of wars.

Violence is violence 😂 defensive or attacking 😛 and we get use to.
Goes deep in the soul 😁

Historically the Balkans was fairly civilised before the Turks started their cultural experiment there - that experiment is still ongoing with their colony nations like Albania, Bosnia, ''Kosovo'' always ready for violence at any level etc. Serbs are a civilised bunch. I met plenty of them. Can't say the same for those in the colony nations.

StellaRojas

Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:53
Citação de: Fernando_SLB em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:44
Citação de: StellaRojas em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:41
Citação de: Fernando_SLB em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:39
Citação de: StellaRojas em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:36
Citação de: Fernando_SLB em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:26
Serbia is special case... violence is genetic since first world war 😂😂

Would should that mean now? Throughout our history we have never been violent, or attacking anyone first. And First World War was a defensive war ( Austro-Hungary declared war on us, using Ferdinand's assassination as a pretext) in which we had a number of glorious victories and suffered a great deal, retreating over Albania and breaking through the Salonica front.

I Know who start 😎 but what I mean is that Balkans always violent.  Since wwI and then in Yugoslavia times.

It's an habit.

The Balkans are at the intersection of many roads, making it a desirable target for many foreign powers. So, yes, we are used to defending ourselves and unfortunately, had to go through a number of wars.

Violence is violence 😂 defensive or attacking 😛 and we get use to.
Goes deep in the soul 😁

Historically the Balkans was fairly civilised before the Turks started their cultural experiment there - that experiment is still ongoing with their colony nations like Albania, Bosnia, ''Kosovo'' always ready for violence at any level etc. Serbs are a civilised bunch. I met plenty of them. Can't say the same for those in the colony nations.

I'm biased, but while there are bad apples in every basket, I would say that you are right. Albanian fans were stoning Legia Warsaw players only because they had one Serb in their team. That is unthinkable in Serbia. Or that drone carrying the map of Greater Albania.
It is also a well-known fact that they live off drug business in " Kosovo". When our famous writer Dobrica Cosic said that Albanians " indebted European culture" only by building medieval walls around their houses, he enraged NGOs. But that is true...no success in sports ( except for judo), no success in art ( apart from Ismail Kadare), no success in science. No success in anything, to be honest, apart from dealing drugs. It may sound racist, but it is actually true.

And yes, prior to Turkish occupation these parts never had any of these issues.

Faliro

Citação de: StellaRojas em 07 de Março de 2018, 13:06
Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:53
Citação de: Fernando_SLB em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:44
Citação de: StellaRojas em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:41
Citação de: Fernando_SLB em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:39
Citação de: StellaRojas em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:36
Citação de: Fernando_SLB em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:26
Serbia is special case... violence is genetic since first world war 😂😂

Would should that mean now? Throughout our history we have never been violent, or attacking anyone first. And First World War was a defensive war ( Austro-Hungary declared war on us, using Ferdinand's assassination as a pretext) in which we had a number of glorious victories and suffered a great deal, retreating over Albania and breaking through the Salonica front.

I Know who start 😎 but what I mean is that Balkans always violent.  Since wwI and then in Yugoslavia times.

It's an habit.

The Balkans are at the intersection of many roads, making it a desirable target for many foreign powers. So, yes, we are used to defending ourselves and unfortunately, had to go through a number of wars.

Violence is violence 😂 defensive or attacking 😛 and we get use to.
Goes deep in the soul 😁

Historically the Balkans was fairly civilised before the Turks started their cultural experiment there - that experiment is still ongoing with their colony nations like Albania, Bosnia, ''Kosovo'' always ready for violence at any level etc. Serbs are a civilised bunch. I met plenty of them. Can't say the same for those in the colony nations.

I'm biased, but while there are bad apples in every basket, I would say that you are right. Albanian fans were stoning Legia Warsaw players only because they had one Serb in their team. That is unthinkable in Serbia. Or that drone carrying the map of Greater Albania.
It is also a well-known fact that they live off drug business in " Kosovo". When our famous writer Dobrica Cosic said that Albanians " indebted European culture" only by building medieval walls around their houses, he enraged NGOs. But that is true...no success in sports ( except for judo), no success in art ( apart from Ismail Kadare), no success in science. No success in anything, to be honest, apart from dealing drugs. It may sound racist, but it is actually true.

And yes, prior to Turkish occupation these parts never had any of these issues.

I would say as well as a drugs, Albanians are number 1 for people trafficking. Whether in London, Paris or the eastern block - if there is a sex slave or people illegally moved across continental Europe - 90% of the time there is an Albanian gang involved. In London they have controlled the vice there for decades. Same in Paris. Drugs, people trafficking, prostitution etc.. all Albanian controlled.

That is remarkable considering 1/ how few Albanians there are in these nations and yet their criminal infrastructure is insane. 2/ how nearly all of them entered these nations illegally themselves in order to set up these criminal gangs and they rarely get deported 3/ Think of all the other foreign nationals they have kept from these criminal industries. Russians, Romanians, North Africans - no one can dent the control Albanians have on these industries in Paris and London. 4/ how the US Government and Turkey adore Albania. There is no nation in Europe that is so dedicated to crime and criminal activity as Albania is. Even their Govt ministers are driving around in stolen vehicles.

StellaRojas

Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Março de 2018, 13:17
Citação de: StellaRojas em 07 de Março de 2018, 13:06
Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:53
Citação de: Fernando_SLB em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:44
Citação de: StellaRojas em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:41
Citação de: Fernando_SLB em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:39
Citação de: StellaRojas em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:36
Citação de: Fernando_SLB em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:26
Serbia is special case... violence is genetic since first world war 😂😂

Would should that mean now? Throughout our history we have never been violent, or attacking anyone first. And First World War was a defensive war ( Austro-Hungary declared war on us, using Ferdinand's assassination as a pretext) in which we had a number of glorious victories and suffered a great deal, retreating over Albania and breaking through the Salonica front.

I Know who start 😎 but what I mean is that Balkans always violent.  Since wwI and then in Yugoslavia times.

It's an habit.

The Balkans are at the intersection of many roads, making it a desirable target for many foreign powers. So, yes, we are used to defending ourselves and unfortunately, had to go through a number of wars.

Violence is violence 😂 defensive or attacking 😛 and we get use to.
Goes deep in the soul 😁

Historically the Balkans was fairly civilised before the Turks started their cultural experiment there - that experiment is still ongoing with their colony nations like Albania, Bosnia, ''Kosovo'' always ready for violence at any level etc. Serbs are a civilised bunch. I met plenty of them. Can't say the same for those in the colony nations.

I'm biased, but while there are bad apples in every basket, I would say that you are right. Albanian fans were stoning Legia Warsaw players only because they had one Serb in their team. That is unthinkable in Serbia. Or that drone carrying the map of Greater Albania.
It is also a well-known fact that they live off drug business in " Kosovo". When our famous writer Dobrica Cosic said that Albanians " indebted European culture" only by building medieval walls around their houses, he enraged NGOs. But that is true...no success in sports ( except for judo), no success in art ( apart from Ismail Kadare), no success in science. No success in anything, to be honest, apart from dealing drugs. It may sound racist, but it is actually true.

And yes, prior to Turkish occupation these parts never had any of these issues.

I would say as well as a drugs, Albanians are number 1 for people trafficking. Whether in London, Paris or the eastern block - if there is a sex slave or people illegally moved across continental Europe - 90% of the time there is an Albanian gang involved. In London they have controlled the vice there for decades. Same in Paris. Drugs, people trafficking, prostitution etc.. all Albanian controlled.

That is remarkable considering 1/ how few Albanians there are in these nations and yet their criminal infrastructure is insane. 2/ how nearly all of them entered these nations illegally themselves in order to set up these criminal gangs and they rarely get deported 3/ Think of all the other foreign nationals they have kept from these criminal industries. Russians, Romanians, North Africans - no one can dent the control Albanians have on these industries in Paris and London. 4/ how the US Government and Turkey adore Albania. There is no nation in Europe that is so dedicated to crime and criminal activity as Albania is. Even their Govt ministers are driving around in stolen vehicles.

I remember that there was a scandal when the captain of Iceland football team said, when they were playing in Tirana: We have been told not to leave our hotel..because Albanians are mostly criminals :rir: He must have heard it from people in Scandinavia. A month ago, the apartment of the niece of Ramush Haradinaj " president of Kosovo" was blown up in Sweden. He was released from Hague, even though he, among other things, masterminded organs trafficking/theft of Serbs they killed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_theft_in_Kosovo

Faliro

Citação de: StellaRojas em 07 de Março de 2018, 13:26
Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Março de 2018, 13:17
Citação de: StellaRojas em 07 de Março de 2018, 13:06
Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:53
Citação de: Fernando_SLB em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:44
Citação de: StellaRojas em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:41
Citação de: Fernando_SLB em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:39
Citação de: StellaRojas em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:36
Citação de: Fernando_SLB em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:26
Serbia is special case... violence is genetic since first world war 😂😂

Would should that mean now? Throughout our history we have never been violent, or attacking anyone first. And First World War was a defensive war ( Austro-Hungary declared war on us, using Ferdinand's assassination as a pretext) in which we had a number of glorious victories and suffered a great deal, retreating over Albania and breaking through the Salonica front.

I Know who start 😎 but what I mean is that Balkans always violent.  Since wwI and then in Yugoslavia times.

It's an habit.

The Balkans are at the intersection of many roads, making it a desirable target for many foreign powers. So, yes, we are used to defending ourselves and unfortunately, had to go through a number of wars.

Violence is violence 😂 defensive or attacking 😛 and we get use to.
Goes deep in the soul 😁

Historically the Balkans was fairly civilised before the Turks started their cultural experiment there - that experiment is still ongoing with their colony nations like Albania, Bosnia, ''Kosovo'' always ready for violence at any level etc. Serbs are a civilised bunch. I met plenty of them. Can't say the same for those in the colony nations.

I'm biased, but while there are bad apples in every basket, I would say that you are right. Albanian fans were stoning Legia Warsaw players only because they had one Serb in their team. That is unthinkable in Serbia. Or that drone carrying the map of Greater Albania.
It is also a well-known fact that they live off drug business in " Kosovo". When our famous writer Dobrica Cosic said that Albanians " indebted European culture" only by building medieval walls around their houses, he enraged NGOs. But that is true...no success in sports ( except for judo), no success in art ( apart from Ismail Kadare), no success in science. No success in anything, to be honest, apart from dealing drugs. It may sound racist, but it is actually true.

And yes, prior to Turkish occupation these parts never had any of these issues.

I would say as well as a drugs, Albanians are number 1 for people trafficking. Whether in London, Paris or the eastern block - if there is a sex slave or people illegally moved across continental Europe - 90% of the time there is an Albanian gang involved. In London they have controlled the vice there for decades. Same in Paris. Drugs, people trafficking, prostitution etc.. all Albanian controlled.

That is remarkable considering 1/ how few Albanians there are in these nations and yet their criminal infrastructure is insane. 2/ how nearly all of them entered these nations illegally themselves in order to set up these criminal gangs and they rarely get deported 3/ Think of all the other foreign nationals they have kept from these criminal industries. Russians, Romanians, North Africans - no one can dent the control Albanians have on these industries in Paris and London. 4/ how the US Government and Turkey adore Albania. There is no nation in Europe that is so dedicated to crime and criminal activity as Albania is. Even their Govt ministers are driving around in stolen vehicles.

I remember that there was a scandal when the captain of Iceland football team said, when they were playing in Tirana: We have been told not to leave our hotel..because Albanians are mostly criminals :rir: He must have heard it from people in Scandinavia. A month ago, the apartment of the niece of Ramush Haradinaj " president of Kosovo" was blown up in Sweden. He was released from Hague, even though he, among other things, masterminded organs trafficking/theft of Serbs they killed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_theft_in_Kosovo

People go on a lot about interference of the US and NATO in the Middle East. They forget the absurd support the US and NATO has given to Albania - politically and militarily. Whenever Greece gets into issues with a neighbour - NATO and the US turn their backs. Greece left NATO for that very reason - only to crawl back in later. Albania - for some absurd reason - is a treasured ally and yet historically Greece has been on the right side of the major conflicts and sacrificed huge amounts of citizens - for example WW2..

StellaRojas

Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Março de 2018, 13:30
Citação de: StellaRojas em 07 de Março de 2018, 13:26
Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Março de 2018, 13:17
Citação de: StellaRojas em 07 de Março de 2018, 13:06
Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:53
Citação de: Fernando_SLB em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:44
Citação de: StellaRojas em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:41
Citação de: Fernando_SLB em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:39
Citação de: StellaRojas em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:36
Citação de: Fernando_SLB em 07 de Março de 2018, 12:26
Serbia is special case... violence is genetic since first world war 😂😂

Would should that mean now? Throughout our history we have never been violent, or attacking anyone first. And First World War was a defensive war ( Austro-Hungary declared war on us, using Ferdinand's assassination as a pretext) in which we had a number of glorious victories and suffered a great deal, retreating over Albania and breaking through the Salonica front.

I Know who start 😎 but what I mean is that Balkans always violent.  Since wwI and then in Yugoslavia times.

It's an habit.

The Balkans are at the intersection of many roads, making it a desirable target for many foreign powers. So, yes, we are used to defending ourselves and unfortunately, had to go through a number of wars.

Violence is violence 😂 defensive or attacking 😛 and we get use to.
Goes deep in the soul 😁

Historically the Balkans was fairly civilised before the Turks started their cultural experiment there - that experiment is still ongoing with their colony nations like Albania, Bosnia, ''Kosovo'' always ready for violence at any level etc. Serbs are a civilised bunch. I met plenty of them. Can't say the same for those in the colony nations.

I'm biased, but while there are bad apples in every basket, I would say that you are right. Albanian fans were stoning Legia Warsaw players only because they had one Serb in their team. That is unthinkable in Serbia. Or that drone carrying the map of Greater Albania.
It is also a well-known fact that they live off drug business in " Kosovo". When our famous writer Dobrica Cosic said that Albanians " indebted European culture" only by building medieval walls around their houses, he enraged NGOs. But that is true...no success in sports ( except for judo), no success in art ( apart from Ismail Kadare), no success in science. No success in anything, to be honest, apart from dealing drugs. It may sound racist, but it is actually true.

And yes, prior to Turkish occupation these parts never had any of these issues.

I would say as well as a drugs, Albanians are number 1 for people trafficking. Whether in London, Paris or the eastern block - if there is a sex slave or people illegally moved across continental Europe - 90% of the time there is an Albanian gang involved. In London they have controlled the vice there for decades. Same in Paris. Drugs, people trafficking, prostitution etc.. all Albanian controlled.

That is remarkable considering 1/ how few Albanians there are in these nations and yet their criminal infrastructure is insane. 2/ how nearly all of them entered these nations illegally themselves in order to set up these criminal gangs and they rarely get deported 3/ Think of all the other foreign nationals they have kept from these criminal industries. Russians, Romanians, North Africans - no one can dent the control Albanians have on these industries in Paris and London. 4/ how the US Government and Turkey adore Albania. There is no nation in Europe that is so dedicated to crime and criminal activity as Albania is. Even their Govt ministers are driving around in stolen vehicles.

I remember that there was a scandal when the captain of Iceland football team said, when they were playing in Tirana: We have been told not to leave our hotel..because Albanians are mostly criminals :rir: He must have heard it from people in Scandinavia. A month ago, the apartment of the niece of Ramush Haradinaj " president of Kosovo" was blown up in Sweden. He was released from Hague, even though he, among other things, masterminded organs trafficking/theft of Serbs they killed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organ_theft_in_Kosovo

People go on a lot about interference of the US and NATO in the Middle East. They forget the absurd support the US and NATO has given to Albania - politically and militarily. Whenever Greece gets into issues with a neighbour - NATO and the US turn their backs. Greece left NATO for that very reason - only to crawl back in later. Albania - for some absurd reason - is a treasured ally and yet historically Greece has been on the right side of the major conflicts and sacrificed huge amounts of citizens - for example WW2..

Аlbania is the Trojan horse of the USA in the Balkans. The reason, I believe, is that they do not want strong countries in that part of the world, so they are using " the mischievous and violent guy" of the Balkans to always be at the throat of its many neighbors, using them as a sort of a threat if they decide to raise their heads up a bit. But, for that same reason, they will not allow Greater Albania in the Balkans, unless they manage to break away so that they can not be controlled, like Frankenstein's monster, or to use a more real example, Al Qaeda. But that is unlikely because none of their neighbors likes them, so they will always need support.

Faliro

Say Albania decide to press ahead one day with a great Albania -and unify all the areas they have out-bred the locals in. I recon Turkey will be militarily ready to support the project within seconds. US and NATO will condemn the move publicly - but privately they will be like..  :whistle2: Greece will cry to the EU who will not answer the phone anyway once they see a +30 dialling code number on their phone.

StellaRojas

Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Março de 2018, 13:41
Say Albania decide to press ahead one day with a great Albania -and unify all the areas they have out-bred the locals in. I recon Turkey will be militarily ready to support the project within seconds. US and NATO will condemn the move publicly - but privately they will be like..  :whistle2: Greece will cry to the EU who will not answer the phone anyway once they see a +30 dialling code number on their phone.

The Balkans have taken a backseat in American geopolitical plans, but not that much I would say. They will not let anyone else rule the roost in their playground: neither Turkey nor Russia. Especially now, that they are having it rough with the sultan Erdogan.

Faliro

Someone asked a few years ago about the size of Athens. This video published today has drone footage of the new AEK stadium and some beautiful visuals of the northern Athenian suburbs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLXbj1HlXmo

Covenant


Fernando_SLB

Citação de: Covenant em 10 de Março de 2018, 14:07
Big game tomorow.

Big league title game... without fans 😎😁😂

Faliro

Citação de: Covenant em 10 de Março de 2018, 14:07
Big game tomorow.

It will be a decider.

AEK arrived at Salonika airport today. 500 AEK fans saw them to the airport.  :crazy2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQzlRgH0Ng0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pise65Lq02U





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWiystEHh0M

AEK think if they can win this game, the league is over.

Covenant

Citação de: Faliro em 10 de Março de 2018, 14:52
Citação de: Covenant em 10 de Março de 2018, 14:07
Big game tomorow.

It will be a decider.

AEK arrived at Salonika airport today. 500 AEK fans saw them to the airport.  :crazy2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQzlRgH0Ng0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pise65Lq02U





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWiystEHh0M

AEK think if they can win this game, the league is over.

You don't appreciate their effort?

Faliro

Citação de: Covenant em 10 de Março de 2018, 15:24
Citação de: Faliro em 10 de Março de 2018, 14:52
Citação de: Covenant em 10 de Março de 2018, 14:07
Big game tomorow.

It will be a decider.

AEK arrived at Salonika airport today. 500 AEK fans saw them to the airport.  :crazy2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQzlRgH0Ng0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pise65Lq02U





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWiystEHh0M

AEK think if they can win this game, the league is over.

You don't appreciate their effort?

I do, but you must also remember a good chunk of them are these guys..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx2Swa0M8nU

Sometimes they use their love for their club as an excuse for violence.