This is the 3rd time our teams meet. I am a PAOK supporter so I look forward to the discussion.
We definitely plan to have a great series against you! Should be a great game. Best player for PAOK?
Matos, Vieirinha, Pelkas and Mauricio stand out.
Welcome :)
What can you tell us about Răzvan Lucescu?
AMSILVA I have some questions if you can answer.
1/ What is the real cause of the delay for the New Toumba project?
2/ When will we see a design for the new stadium?
3/ What will be the capacity - I believe there is room for a 40k stadium - why will that not be attempted?
Cheers. :drunk:
Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Agosto de 2018, 13:25
AMSILVA I have some questions if you can answer.
1/ What is the real cause of the delay for the New Toumba project?
2/ When will we see a design for the new stadium?
3/ What will be the capacity - I believe there is room for a 40k stadium - why will that not be attempted?
Cheers. :drunk:
And now...these are the questions that only a real PAOK fan can answer ;D
Will Sabry be playing for you guys or for us?...
Kids nowadays don't pay attention in history classes, but back in the day when Mo Salah was just a little boy, there was already a egyptian king running down the wing oozing class with his trickery. A free-kick master who loved to ruin parties ;D Go ask Schmeichel and the other 50.000 people at the old green toilet.
Citação de: Romarvalhal em 17 de Agosto de 2018, 13:14
Welcome :)
What can you tell us about Răzvan Lucescu?
Razvan is a Romanian coach. He coached the Romanian national team and a few teams from the Romanian League, but caught the attention in his time with Xanthi, a team that a mid-level team in Greece. I feel like he brought great stability and organization to that team. He got the most out of the players the team could afford. Mostly young greek talent and foreign tourist players. Considering the team has a total budget of under $9Million Euros, the team played very solid football and was only limited by the talent they could afford.
He was brought to PAOK last season, and had a rough start. There were many new players, some transfers were made before he signed on as coach so he was starting from scratch. A lot of the fans started to question his choices, and wanted him fired, but by Christmas he gained the love and respect of PAOKs ownership, players and fans.
He is a coach who is not afraid to attack the opponent. He showed this with Basel and Spartak. I believe he is very good at analyzing our opponents and coming up with specific plans that will exploit their weakness along with promote our strengths. He has the players trust, which is huge in Greek soccer. We've been plagued by coaches who care more about promoting players that are represented by their friends and family members as agents, rather than what's right for the team. PAOKs biggest hurdle the last 5 years has been getting over the politics between the back office and the coaching staff.
I believe he has a high football IQ, and has made the team into a family.
I also believe he seeks council from his father who is a great coach in his own right, Mircea Lucescu who has won numerous championships in Turkey, Romania and Ukraine. He is currently the coach for the Turkish national team and has been at most of our games inthe European campaign.
Four years ago I was there in Toumba at my birthday :)
AMSILVA are you from Thessaloniki?
Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Agosto de 2018, 13:25
AMSILVA I have some questions if you can answer.
1/ What is the real cause of the delay for the New Toumba project?
2/ When will we see a design for the new stadium?
3/ What will be the capacity - I believe there is room for a 40k stadium - why will that not be attempted?
Cheers. :drunk:
1/ The last I had heard was that we were seeking approval for state authorities because some of the land that was planned for the new stadium was owned by the Ministry of Defense. They had come to an agreement, but I haven't heard much since then.
In May we had arranged to use Kaftanzoglio (home of Iraklis) for 2 years with and option of a 3rd year in case construction was delayed. Part of the deal was that our president would pay to make upgrades to the stadium.
I honestly am not sure where everything stands right now. It seems like every time the discussions heat up, they just disappear.
2 & 3/ There have been reports that the design for the new stadium would be similar but on a smaller scale as the Northumberland Development Project, which is the future home of Tottenham. Building a stadium, with commercial and residential mixed use on premises, along with an underground parking facility....but again, all talk thus far. The projecte capacity for out new stadium is 36,500. Honestly, besides European matches and Derby's the attendance hasn't been great. We are projected to sell 20,000 season tickets this year, but even still during our regular matches and cup games are usually less than that. I also think that the fact that the favoritism of Athens for hosting National Team matches also plays a role with the smaller capacity.
Citação de: Vitor84 em 17 de Agosto de 2018, 16:46
Four years ago I was there in Toumba at my birthday :)
AMSILVA are you from Thessaloniki?
My family is, I live in Boston (USA).
Citação de: AMSILVA em 17 de Agosto de 2018, 16:57
Citação de: Vitor84 em 17 de Agosto de 2018, 16:46
Four years ago I was there in Toumba at my birthday :)
AMSILVA are you from Thessaloniki?
My family is, I live in Boston (USA).
O0
I lived in Serres between 2013/14 and I went sometimes to Thessaloniki, lovely City. PAOK is my team in Greece.
Citação de: Vitor84 em 17 de Agosto de 2018, 17:03
Citação de: AMSILVA em 17 de Agosto de 2018, 16:57
Citação de: Vitor84 em 17 de Agosto de 2018, 16:46
Four years ago I was there in Toumba at my birthday :)
AMSILVA are you from Thessaloniki?
My family is, I live in Boston (USA).
O0
I lived in Serres between 2013/14 and I went sometimes to Thessaloniki, lovely City. PAOK is my team in Greece.
My mother is from Drama. I've been to Serres many time.
Also... as far as the stadium is concerned there were some images released a couple years ago, but who knows about their accuracy. They can be seen here:
https://inpaok.com/331640/
Citação de: AMSILVA em 17 de Agosto de 2018, 16:55
Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Agosto de 2018, 13:25
AMSILVA I have some questions if you can answer.
1/ What is the real cause of the delay for the New Toumba project?
2/ When will we see a design for the new stadium?
3/ What will be the capacity - I believe there is room for a 40k stadium - why will that not be attempted?
Cheers. :drunk:
1/ The last I had heard was that we were seeking approval for state authorities because some of the land that was planned for the new stadium was owned by the Ministry of Defense. They had come to an agreement, but I haven't heard much since then.
In May we had arranged to use Kaftanzoglio (home of Iraklis) for 2 years with and option of a 3rd year in case construction was delayed. Part of the deal was that our president would pay to make upgrades to the stadium.
I honestly am not sure where everything stands right now. It seems like every time the discussions heat up, they just disappear.
2 & 3/ There have been reports that the design for the new stadium would be similar but on a smaller scale as the Northumberland Development Project, which is the future home of Tottenham. Building a stadium, with commercial and residential mixed use on premises, along with an underground parking facility....but again, all talk thus far. The projecte capacity for out new stadium is 36,500. Honestly, besides European matches and Derby's the attendance hasn't been great. We are projected to sell 20,000 season tickets this year, but even still during our regular matches and cup games are usually less than that. I also think that the fact that the favoritism of Athens for hosting National Team matches also plays a role with the smaller capacity.
Thanks for the reply. It seems Savvidis some days is all for the new Toumba and other days less sure. I think it should def be 36,000 or above and hopefully it is for many reasons (future NT games, future host stadium for a Euro Championship and of course future growth of Salonika, PAOK and Greek football). I think it is safe to say the NT will never return to the Karaiskaki and that will suit Tzavellas and Tziolis who are despised in that stadium and who will both still be paying for the NT into their 40s.. :estrelas:
It seems almost certain the NT will move to AEK's stadium when it is finished but hopefully if PAOK rebuild - their stadium will be three best venue for the NT one day - especially if it is 36,000 or more and thus the largest football specific stadium in Hellas. I really hope PAOK go for the bigger capacity.
Tziolis is a very smart player, but he's sooooooo slow. Perfect example of a player who's mind is more suited than his body.
I read reports that Wernbloom has been in private training in the off season and is physically fit to play immediately. He would be taking over for our weakest spot on the roster, and replacing Canas who made MANY mistakes against Spartak.
Citação de: AMSILVA em 17 de Agosto de 2018, 17:47
Tziolis is a very smart player, but he's sooooooo slow. Perfect example of a player who's mind is more suited than his body.
He has the speed of a 40 year old and passes backwards more than any midfielder I have seen in any league in the world. However his agent is a miracle worker and Skibbe has an IQ of around 80. Interesting talking of slow big midfielders that dont tackle much.. we have offered Tachtsidis to nearly every club in Europe and no one wants him.
Citação de: AMSILVA em 17 de Agosto de 2018, 17:50
I read reports that Wernbloom has been in private training in the off season and is physically fit to play immediately. He would be taking over for our weakest spot on the roster, and replacing Canas who made MANY mistakes against Spartak.
Kinda think Canas is quite a good player.
He's a good player, but inconsistent. I think we agree that Wernbloom, even at 32 years old is 2 levels above Canas.
Citação de: AMSILVA em 17 de Agosto de 2018, 17:56
He's a good player, but inconsistent. I think we agree that Wernbloom, even at 32 years old is 2 levels above Canas.
Perhaps. Depends how he gels I guess. I never thought Canas was spectacular - but I do believe you had the best midfield in Hellas last season.
Ohhhh paókara!!!!!!!
What would be the overall budget for PAOK? yearly budget for football.
Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Agosto de 2018, 18:12
Citação de: AMSILVA em 17 de Agosto de 2018, 17:56
He's a good player, but inconsistent. I think we agree that Wernbloom, even at 32 years old is 2 levels above Canas.
Perhaps. Depends how he gels I guess. I never thought Canas was spectacular - but I do believe you had the best midfield in Hellas last season.
I don't agree. I think Mauricio under performed last year...but he looks like a different player so far this year. I think this year with Mauricio - Wernbloom we will have the best midfield in Greece.
Citação de: GTtdi_SLB em 17 de Agosto de 2018, 18:18
What would be the overall budget for PAOK? yearly budget for football.
I think it is currently at $60Million
Thank you for that song. We kindly adapted it some years ago and sounds great on our voices too.
Do you have a youtube clip so I can hear?
Btw, once upon a time when we were still supporters and not customers, our anniversary celebrations were for the common people and not exclusive for guys in suits and FPF/Liga corrupt guests, so I had the possibility of participating in these kind of atmosphere. Respect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avoqrAnralQ
Citação de: AMSILVA em 17 de Agosto de 2018, 18:56
Do you have a youtube clip so I can hear?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0IuBhtZWlg
THank You
Citação de: AMSILVA em 17 de Agosto de 2018, 18:21
Citação de: GTtdi_SLB em 17 de Agosto de 2018, 18:18
What would be the overall budget for PAOK? yearly budget for football.
I think it is currently at $60Million
60M€ is quite an amount. According to wiki Thessaloniki has 314k inhabitants with a surrounding area of 1.104.460 habitants. I didn't know.
your midfield seems to be clearly the strongest sector. Mauricio, Vierinha, Wernbloom, Biseswar, all good players and very well known names. Defense and attack seem underwhelming.
We expect a confortable result in the first game, otherwise we will have a bad time in the hostile Toumbas for sure.
Vieirinha - Varella - Chatzeridis/Crespo - Matos is actually a very good back line. Other than the 10 minutes our defense fell asleep against Spartak, our defense did great in all 4 matches of European play.
Up front, if you underestimate Pelkas, Warda, Limnios or Prijovic, they'll make you pay.
We beat Basile with a 5-1 aggregate, and Benfica is only ranked 3 places higher in UEFA Club rankings. We beat Spartak with a 3-2 aggregate, but if you watched the second match, it should have been a 6-2 coefficient.
We can score. Between April 2017 to April 2018, in League and Cup play PAOK scored 13 goals on Vlachodemos in 5 matches.
Kalos irthes sto forum mas, AMSILVA!
Do you have any Portuguese ancestry? I ask this because of "Silva" in your screenname.
No, my wife is Portuguese. Silva is her maiden name. I figured I'd blend in well with it in my name, lol.
Citação de: Gottschalk em 19 de Agosto de 2018, 18:13
Kalos irthes sto forum mas, AMSILVA!
Do you have any Portuguese ancestry? I ask this because of "Silva" in your screenname.
Do you have any Greek ancestry Gottschalk? You know quite a lot about Greek/Ancient Greek grammar and orthography. O0
Citação de: StellaRojas em 19 de Agosto de 2018, 20:04Do you have any Greek ancestry Gottschalk? You know quite a lot about Greek/Ancient Greek grammar and orthography. O0
No.
What I know about Greek language and culture comes from personal study. Formally speaking, I did take two years of Modern Greek in college a decade ago, more or less.
Basic Ancient Greek was taught to me by my Latin professor in high school. All the rest is just personal endeavor.
AMSILVA welcome to our forum. Hope the two clashes between Benfica and PAOK will be two great football games! :drunk: :drunk:
Who remembers PAOK for this player who knew how to f*ck up a good party?
The last part of the video is from Luanda, Angola. sporting lizzards could win the championship in that match and even so, the majority of supporters watching were Benfica's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=314&v=JI5n8TOUFcA
SABRY!
Citação de: Ned Kelly em 20 de Agosto de 2018, 23:06
Who remembers PAOK for this player who knew how to f*ck up a good party?
The last part of the video is from Luanda, Angola. sporting lizzards could win the championship in that match and even so, the majority of supporters watching were Benfica's.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=314&v=JI5n8TOUFcA
SABRY!
I remember much better the best Greek player to ever step foot in our club. The man, the legend.... Triantafyllos Machairidis.
Seriously now, apart from this tree trunk, Greek players were alright...Fyssas, Samaris, Katsoranis and Karagounis.
PAOK is ahead now(away goals).
We have a retarded coach who puts André Almeida (the weakest link) taking free kicks.
Cervi passing backwards stayed in the game and then Zivkovic earlier subbed.
Two flops like Ferreyra and Seferovic together in the attack.
Pelkas is a very nice player btw. And PAOK as I predicted were more dangerous than Fenerbahçe. I think unfortunately that Benfica will go to Europa League.
Missed the game because of a party. Will try and watch the game on delay. Seems PAOK did their homework.
Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Agosto de 2018, 23:23
Missed the game because of a party. Will try and watch the game on delay. Seems PAOK did their homework.
Rui Vitoria missed class.
We missed a lot of chances, specially in the first half. PAOK defended with all their hearts for 75 minutes and then showed what I assume is their real skill in the last minutes of the match. Terrible result for us, but we can obviously score in Greece.
We have what is undoubtedly one of the worst managers in Europe. I don't even know if I really want Champions League at all, if we make it we are going to be humiliated once again.
Edit: Pelkas looked pretty good tonight, quite the evolution since he played here.
Pelkas was already good at Setúbal.
PAOK has two or three good players but their strength has to be Lucescu. Extremely organized, they knew exactly what they had to do today.
AMSILVA what about pagares uns canecos na Luz when you came to Portugal?
Citação de: Bryan. em 21 de Agosto de 2018, 23:37
Pelkas was already good at Setúbal.
PAOK has two or three good players but their strenght has to be Lucescu. Extremely organized, they knew exactly what they had to do today.
Yup. They all jumped on him to celebrate the goal.
Its important to understand that tonight we allowed a draw agaisnt a Nacional alike. Or setubal for that matter.
I think we should send Roy Win to a more stimulating club like Tondela when we have a chance and try to hire someone who actually knows the game.
Benfica is the better team, but they forgot that a football match is 90 minutes, not 70.
Was that the Stadium of the great Benfica? It seemed more like my church on sunday morning. Next week in Toumpa we'll show everyone how you support your team.
Our midfield was horrible today, our defense seemed slower than usual. Our wingers looked their age (19 and 20 years old). I believe Warda will start next week and I hope Biseswar.
I see too many Benfica fans stuck in their own arrogance to open their eyes.
Anyways. I predict PAOK loses 1-2 in Toumpa and Benfica will make it through. I hope I'm wrong.
Citação de: Bryan. em 21 de Agosto de 2018, 23:37
Pelkas was already good at Setúbal.
PAOK has two or three good players but their strength has to be Lucescu. Extremely organized, they knew exactly what they had to do today.
Benfica-RV-Lucescu
(https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2017/08/gettyimages-493656728.jpg)
Citação de: AMSILVA em 22 de Agosto de 2018, 03:16
Benfica is the better team, but they forgot that a football match is 90 minutes, not 70.
Was that the Stadium of the great Benfica? It seemed more like my church on sunday morning. Next week in Toumpa we'll show everyone how you support your team.
Our midfield was horrible today, our defense seemed slower than usual. Our wingers looked their age (19 and 20 years old). I believe Warda will start next week and I hope Biseswar.
I see too many Benfica fans stuck in their own arrogance to open their eyes.
Anyways. I predict PAOK loses 1-2 in Toumpa and Benfica will make it through. I hope I'm wrong.
The match just showed that sometimes it's better to have a decent manager and a mediocre team than to have a good team and an awful manager.
With Lucescu sitting on our bench and RV on yours, PAOK would have suffered quite an humiliation yesterday.
About the support (the kind you mentioned at least), quite honestly, it's a matter of time for it to be gone from all countries. Football has changed and so has the way people watch it. We played in Istanbul this season and it was nothing like it used to be.
Maybe in a week, we visit Greece already with a different man sitting on the bench. A man can dream.
Simply enough, if a difference in class is not huge, it does not matter which team has better individuals- this is where the coach comes into play. Zvezda played Spartak Trnava...these guys do not play football at all, but MMA, and they do not have footballers, basic elements of technique are still not mastered by them. But they had the coach who knew how to get the best out of his team, to the point of even defeating Milojevic tactically in our first match. It does not matter that PAOK had basically one attempt on the goal...that is what they came for, to keep the tie alive for Salonica. That is why we can say Lucescu- RV: 1:0
Citação de: StellaRojas em 22 de Agosto de 2018, 11:09
Simply enough, if a difference in class is not huge, it does not matter which team has better individuals- this is where the coach comes into play. Zvezda played Spartak Trnava...these guys do not play football at all, but MMA, and they do not have footballers, basic elements of technique are still not mastered by them. But they had the coach who knew how to get the best out of his team, to the point of even defeating Milojevic tactically in our first match. It does not matter that PAOK had basically one attempt on the goal...that is what they came for, to keep the tie alive for Salonica. That is why we can say Lucescu- RV: 1:0
The difference in players quality is quite big. And the match showed it. The game could have ended with 4 or 5 goals for Benfica even with RV (actually it was some of the best football RV has showed). However it's not done properly. The team ran way too much and just died on the 60th minute.
Lucescu did a good job of course but yesterday he was also lucky. I would take him over RV in a blink of an eye though.
Benfica is by far more tired than PAOK and that had a big importance Yesterday. The Greek league don't even started.
The biggest mistake that RV is doing right now have to be play always the same players. But without Jonas, Castillo or Krovinovic...
I believe that PAOK players will feel the pressure more than out players and Benfica will win.
Lucescu is a good coach, but Yesterday had more luck than everything.
Citação de: Covenant em 22 de Agosto de 2018, 13:19
Benfica is by far more tired than PAOK and that had a big importance Yesterday. The Greek league don't even started.
The biggest mistake that RV is doing right now have to be play always the same players. But without Jonas, Castillo or Krovinovic...
I believe that PAOK players will feel the pressure more than out players and Benfica will win.
Lucescu is a good coach, but Yesterday had more luck than everything.
Talk about tiredness and fatigue in middle August is just ridiculous. This was Benfica 5th match of the season. Paok also played their 5th match. And had to play basel really early.
Players seem tired because they run way too much and do it in a wrong way.
If doing pressing high on the field would be this easy everyone would do it. Asking players to run like Forrest Gump after the ball is easy. Problem is you have 11 dead bodies on the 60th minute if you do so.
Citação de: AMSILVA em 22 de Agosto de 2018, 03:16
Benfica is the better team, but they forgot that a football match is 90 minutes, not 70.
Was that the Stadium of the great Benfica? It seemed more like my church on sunday morning. Next week in Toumpa we'll show everyone how you support your team.
Our midfield was horrible today, our defense seemed slower than usual. Our wingers looked their age (19 and 20 years old). I believe Warda will start next week and I hope Biseswar.
I see too many Benfica fans stuck in their own arrogance to open their eyes.
Anyways. I predict PAOK loses 1-2 in Toumpa and Benfica will make it through. I hope I'm wrong.
I'll be honest with you. Great environments, it is more in games against big teams in the champions league or some games of the Portuguese League. For example, yesterday there were few supporters in the stadium, the usual is always more than 50,000 / 55,000 at least. The game against Paok did not move many people.
About the game, Benfica is a much better team than Paok we all know that and Benfica had an obligation to resolve the passage in Portugal. We are a bit embarrassed by the result
So I expect a good game in Greece.
Citação de: AMSILVA em 22 de Agosto de 2018, 03:16
Benfica is the better team, but they forgot that a football match is 90 minutes, not 70.
Was that the Stadium of the great Benfica? It seemed more like my church on sunday morning. Next week in Toumpa we'll show everyone how you support your team.
Our midfield was horrible today, our defense seemed slower than usual. Our wingers looked their age (19 and 20 years old). I believe Warda will start next week and I hope Biseswar.
I see too many Benfica fans stuck in their own arrogance to open their eyes.
Anyways. I predict PAOK loses 1-2 in Toumpa and Benfica will make it through. I hope I'm wrong.
100% Correct, game is 90'. We played well but was it though? Merit to PAOK. Greag goalkeeper. Grecce will be tough. I predict 3-1 Benfica, it wilk end up being an open game. PAOK didn't show how I thought they would. None the less. PAOK is still PAOK, watch out.
My two cents on the comments by our Paok friend:
- atmosphere - I think that even in a church people sing more. I am very sorry for the young supporters that never had the chance to experience the real hell in the old stadium and think that the best support in this one was fantastic. It was not.
- Roy Win, also known as Rui Vitória in some circles. He has shown all his tricks now. He has nothing more to show, but in good days the team overcomes those limitations. Yesterday could have been one of those days, but we didn't score when we had a change.
Even in the past, I think Jonas made the difference where the coach did not. And guess what, when he got out of the team, shit surfaced again.
But hey, I am with the guys that like to have a gentleman in the bench and that really puts the kids playing. Too bad he is bad in all other aspects.
Yeah, our atmosphere sucks.
The Estádio da Luz can still be one of the best atmospheres in Europe but it's only in specific moments of huge emotional weight when passion trumps confort.
Regarding attendances, we are actually quite good. We average 50k+ per match in a full season, which ranks top 20 in Europe.
vs PAOK it was a middle of the week match, with extortionate prices, against a team that doesn't motivate the casual supporter to go and a few days before a Benfica vs Sporting with even worse ticket prices.
Our board unfortunately is 100% profit-oriented regarding ticket prices, not attendance-oriented, which causes situations like this one. August in their minds is the month to milk the portuguese immigrants that came back home for the summer holidays.
PAOK sold out of tickets for the Benfica game in 2 hours.. :crazy2:
Citação de: Faliro em 28 de Agosto de 2018, 02:53
PAOK sold out of tickets for the Benfica game in 2 hours.. :crazy2:
I hope we silence them
By the way, I respect PAOK a lot and the Toumba Stadium. If it wasn't against Benfica, I would be supporting them to get into the group stage...
But... I think it's 50/50 now, because they have a huge boost.... We have RV and they have an incredible atmosphere
Anyone from the forum going to the game?
Citação de: Faliro em 28 de Agosto de 2018, 11:03
Anyone from the forum going to the game?
Not this time. I was there in this one.
https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/history/season=2014/matches/round=2000470/match=2012634/index.html
Citação de: AMSILVA em 22 de Agosto de 2018, 03:16
Was that the Stadium of the great Benfica? It seemed more like my church on sunday morning. Next week in Toumpa we'll show everyone how you support your team.
They seem quiet to me!
Paschalakis
:drool: :drool: :drool:
TVI channel has turned off the stadium atmosphere sound or Greeks are very silent?
Weird!
Citação de: Iron Mask em 29 de Agosto de 2018, 20:45
Citação de: AMSILVA em 22 de Agosto de 2018, 03:16
Was that the Stadium of the great Benfica? It seemed more like my church on sunday morning. Next week in Toumpa we'll show everyone how you support your team.
They seem quiet to me!
eheheh
To be honest their mentality is great, they never stop cheering and chanting.
On average how many defects PAOK had per year?
Citação de: Arceus_17 em 29 de Agosto de 2018, 21:03
Citação de: Iron Mask em 29 de Agosto de 2018, 20:45
Citação de: AMSILVA em 22 de Agosto de 2018, 03:16
Was that the Stadium of the great Benfica? It seemed more like my church on sunday morning. Next week in Toumpa we'll show everyone how you support your team.
They seem quiet to me!
eheheh
To be honest their mentality is great, they never stop cheering and chanting.
Yup, they have a good environment. I think it used to be stronger in the past, just like here. It hurts to admit, but our stadium is far cry from what it used to be. It does feel like a church, sometimes. Especially on overpriced Champions League games.
Good riddance.
And that was the dreaded atmosphere everyone talked about? Childsplay in comparison to what we face in Dragão every year.
Good luck in the Europa League.
Because AEK are now the only Greek team in the CL - they will now get PAOK's money - €2.5 million.
Interesting game. As I predicted - Benfica were too strong for them. PAOK's defence was exposed so badly - I think it could actually effect their season. Their older players (Canas, Varela, Matos, Crespo) - looked old tonight. PAOK looked very good going forward - but at the back - weak and exposed. Thought the ref was very good too. 2nd pen is the type of stuff they do in Greece every game.
Concerning their fans - they are not so tough when they can't throw till rolls at coaches and fire flare guns at players. In Europe they are scared to do that because in Europe basic law and order exists. The last i heard about that convicted criminal who threw the till roll at our manager is that he couldn't attend court.. again.. this time because he apparently had diarrhoea.. and the Thessaloniki corrupt judge bought it.. :clap1:
"Be careful because we are very bad and will kill you all in our great stadium" (hahahahhah).
A fair result of the aggregated matches would be 8-2 or 9-2.
Great atmosphere. 10/10 would recommend.
Amazing atmosphere, the better team did prevail! Thanks for a great competition!
Expected. Both games were easy. The first game was a very wierd result
Easy
So much for the great atmosphere. I've seen children football games with more noise.
Loved the atmosphere. Better luck next time.
Ps: Amsilva & your swedish player love dildos in their mouth. That´s all.
Now you can take selfies with sporting Lisbon in Europa league.
First game without Prijovic, first loss in Greek competitions this season.
Panaxaiki 2
PAOK 1
PAOK after Sporting's Mattheus Oliveira.
Seems Sérgio Oliveira has made an instant impact for PAOK. He will be able to add a Greek Super League title to his trophies.