Europa League: Benfica - Juventus

Dandy

Citação de: Gottschalk em 25 de Abril de 2014, 09:52
Citação de: the mentalist em 25 de Abril de 2014, 09:36
Citação de: Gottschalk em 25 de Abril de 2014, 09:22
Citação de: the mentalist em 25 de Abril de 2014, 08:00
Citação de: Gottschalk em 25 de Abril de 2014, 00:59
The ref didn't signal a clear penalty in our favour in the second half. That was clearly a foul by Cáceres.

He was also a bit permissive here and there, with some rough play by Juve going unpunished. His linesmen didn't have the best of games. Nevertheless, and looking at the whole game, I don't think they were clearly premeditated errors. It was an average refereeing.

clear penalty? lol caceres dont move a single muscles

Of course he did.

There's one thing that Cáceres didn't do, though: play the ball. He did play Enzo Pérez's body.

is your player go to caceres , he cant disappear .

Review the play again.

Cáceres goes out of his way and moves his hip to block Pérez. Clear foul.




   He was offering his anus to Enzo, nothing more.




nogueira

A Juventus será sempre um clube corrupto.

Ontem foi mais uma demonstração disso. São uns merdas.

Faliro

#572
These penalties are given very rarely against big sides.

If Juventus were playing Olympiakos - I am sure there would have been red cards and penalties against Oympiakos from the same ref.

Problem is Juventus are a big club, many neutrals want them to succeed and it shows.

For me, the penalty claim was weak anyway. Technically a penalty, but you rarely see them given.

diogo32

the penalty was clear, but for me that wasn't even the  worst. every contact of our players was foul, but the italian players could do almost anything. even with the free throws that fuckin kebab did a lot of mistakes, always to the same side...prety obvious.

anyway, Juve has shown us that won't be easy to reach to last game. we did'n played our best game, but that's normal once we have some key players and some players seem tired from the party last sunday/monday.

Elvis the Pelvis

What strikes me the most, is the fact that a club proved to be corrupt various times in the past(not to speak about doping), is so protected and so well regarded in Europe. Not only that, but the lack of respect of certain referees for Benfica, a club that belongs in the top 10 all-time(nº8 in that ranking) of european clubs of the 20th Century. It's sickening and not acceptable.

When Juventus won they're first European Cup, Benfica already had 2, and 5 finals played. The only advantage Juve has(and all the other top sides from the best european leagues), is the fact that they have way more money to spend in players, nothing more.

I'm still optimist for the second leg, but i wouldn't be surprised if we're eliminated. Juventus is strong sure, but in case of doubt, the referees will always decide against us, simply because the final will be played in Torino.

Faliro

I would say, if you believe in conspiracies..

Juventus are clear favorites, from the refs up to the uefa board.

On the pitch it is a different matter.

pcssousa

Citação de: the mentalist em 25 de Abril de 2014, 09:36
Citação de: Gottschalk em 25 de Abril de 2014, 09:22
Citação de: the mentalist em 25 de Abril de 2014, 08:00
Citação de: Gottschalk em 25 de Abril de 2014, 00:59
The ref didn't signal a clear penalty in our favour in the second half. That was clearly a foul by Cáceres.

He was also a bit permissive here and there, with some rough play by Juve going unpunished. His linesmen didn't have the best of games. Nevertheless, and looking at the whole game, I don't think they were clearly premeditated errors. It was an average refereeing.

clear penalty? lol caceres dont move a single muscles

Of course he did.

There's one thing that Cáceres didn't do, though: play the ball. He did play Enzo Pérez's body.

is your player go to caceres , he cant disappear .
Sei que falas português, portanto digo-te como se diz em português o que o Caceres fez: Obstrução.
Penalty claríssimo, quem diz o contrário ou não sabe nada de futebol ou é mentiroso.

Dandy








   Congratulations on the ref, Michel.

   Job well done!




pcssousa

Citação de: Faliro em 25 de Abril de 2014, 12:34
These penalties are given very rarely against big sides.

If Juventus were playing Olympiakos - I am sure there would have been red cards and penalties against Oympiakos from the same ref.

Problem is Juventus are a big club, many neutrals want them to succeed and it shows.

For me, the penalty claim was weak anyway. Technically a penalty, but you rarely see them given.
A penalty is a penalty, and that one was clear. And the ref saw it, that is also clear.

Players don't have to claim or beg for penalties. If they do, the referee has to show a yellow card, isn't that so?

JUVENTINO

HELLO GUYS.
That said, yesterday's game does not have anything to envy to those of champion league.
Two teams (juventus and benfica) that could easily play for the semi-finals.
Benfica impressive in the first 15 minutes and the last 10.
In the middle of the game, a very good juve. held the field and worried the benfica.
Your coach is very good: he understood the need to change when there was a chance of a second goal of the juve.
The inclusion of Lima, in addition to scoring, gave confidence to benfica again who went close to scoring in the 3-1.
The alleged foul caceres? If the referee gave the penalty was not wrong, but (in my opinion) he has not missed even by not giving the penalty.
Ultimately (again, IMHO) 1-1 or 2-1 would change little.
Juve, in return, should make the game and try to win.

pcssousa

2-1 is quite different from 1-1 when you play against a team that score in almost all away games...and when your team concedes goals in almost all home games...

Darkboy

Cheers for the fair-play, JUVENTINO.

Benfica will have the most difficult game of the season in your ground, that's for sure. We're aware that your team can turn around this narrow win. With Vidal and Gaitán back, it should be even more entertaining for the neutrals.

I see you have a Serie A match between these two games against Benfica. Do you believe Conte will rest some players?

Festivus

Citação de: pcssousa em 25 de Abril de 2014, 15:24
2-1 is quite different from 1-1 when you play against a team that score in almost all away games...and when your team concedes goals in almost all home games...
An early goal for us in Turin would certainly help a lot.

pcssousa

Citação de: Festivus em 25 de Abril de 2014, 15:37
Citação de: pcssousa em 25 de Abril de 2014, 15:24
2-1 is quite different from 1-1 when you play against a team that score in almost all away games...and when your team concedes goals in almost all home games...
An early goal for us in Turin would certainly help a lot.
Sure. But early or late we have to score.

In Europe I believe only Trabzonspor didn't score there. And if we score, it will be very difficult for Juventus to eliminate us.

RedVC

Citação de: nogueira em 25 de Abril de 2014, 12:20
A Juventus será sempre um clube corrupto.

Ontem foi mais uma demonstração disso. São uns merdas.

FCP a preto e branco.
A verdadeira grande equipa de Turim é em tons grená.
Viva o grande Torino!