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[Covenant]

Vladichomos or Hiljemark played in the last game...

[Faliro]

Vladichomos or Hiljemark played in the last game...

Hiljemark 100%. Vlacho not sure. Seems to now be owned by another team, but may have agreed to stay with PAO for the rest of the season.

[Calcio]

Why dont you go for Kourbelis? 

[Covenant]

Vladichomos or Hiljemark played in the last game...

Hiljemark 100%. Vlacho not sure. Seems to now be owned by another team, but may have agreed to stay with PAO for the rest of the season.

It's Benfica Who own Vlacho.

[Faliro]

Why dont you go for Kourbelis? 

I wanted him even when he was at Asteras. Can play CM or CB. Stable. His character is good too. Hard Peloponnesian. He is an Arcadian too - the where my family came from. They are tough from there. Good physic too - pure footballer. Honest too in the interviews. The minute he signed for PAO - I lost interest. 

[Faliro]

Vladichomos or Hiljemark played in the last game...

Hiljemark 100%. Vlacho not sure. Seems to now be owned by another team, but may have agreed to stay with PAO for the rest of the season.

It's Benfica Who own Vlacho.

Yes, seems you are happy for him to stay in Greece.

[Covenant]

Vladichomos or Hiljemark played in the last game...

Hiljemark 100%. Vlacho not sure. Seems to now be owned by another team, but may have agreed to stay with PAO for the rest of the season.

It's Benfica Who own Vlacho.

Yes, seems you are happy for him to stay in Greece.

Unfortunately, we are going until the end of the season with Bruno Varela.

[Faliro]

Vladichomos or Hiljemark played in the last game...

Hiljemark 100%. Vlacho not sure. Seems to now be owned by another team, but may have agreed to stay with PAO for the rest of the season.

It's Benfica Who own Vlacho.

Yes, seems you are happy for him to stay in Greece.

Unfortunately, we are going until the end of the season with Bruno Varela.

So that explains it. Try and convince Porto to take Kapino and then get a mod to delete this post so no one sees this. He is so shit - he will sabotage them so badly. The beauty of the plan is - the brain dead-media think he is amazing - always back him and he is a full international  - and fucking tall. By the time they start figuring out he is a liability - the season will already be over. Someone on the Oly thread asked why we conceded so many goals this season. This idiot was part of that. Marinakis personally kicked him out the club.

[Covenant]

Any club interested in him?

[Faliro]

Any club interested in him?

Apparently... Brugges were interested but thought he was too pricey.  Young Boys are now considering him. He is still training with Oly, but out the team. Where ever he goes, media always big him up. I am sure if he wants he will find a club. Marinakis terminated his contract in December despite the press trying to save him. Was bizarre. They even started polls to defend him.

[StellaRojas]

Faliro, why do not you take an opportunity to explain the issue of FYROM to people here? Even though it is OT, I do not think anyone will mind, it is history after all.

[Faliro]

Faliro, why do not you take an opportunity to explain the issue of FYROM to people here? Even though it is OT, I do not think anyone will mind, it is history after all.

It is a whole thing and the combination of Greece's own 5th column and outsiders creating the problem.

Starts after the fall of the first Rome. Around 600AD, swaths of slavs entered the Balkans and headed south. Literally 100,000s of them and they were pagans. What is today Greece - had become a backwater of the Byzantine Empire and only Salonika was a significant centre (second capital after Constantinople). Therefore there was no protection. No standing army to meet the slavs. They made it all the way to southern Greece and started settling all the abandoned towns and villages across Greece. In the north they met some resistance and tried many times to breach the great walls of Salonika where all the greeks were hiding. Finally - the Byzantines got their act together. Firstly they christianised many of the slavs in the hope that would take the edge off their violence towards Byzantium () - that only partially worked. However there was still the question of what to do with 100,000 of settlers. In the south the Byzantines started attacking them.

The city of Thessaloniki remained unconquered even after being attacked by the Slavs around 615. The Slavs were eventually defeated, gathered by the Byzantines and placed into segregated communities known as Sclaviniae. During the early 7th century, Constans II made the first mass-expulsions of Slavs from the Greek peninsula to the Balkans and central Asia Minor. Justinian II defeated and destroyed most of the Sclaviniae, and moved as many as 110,000–200,000 Slavs from the Greek peninsula to Bithynia, while he enlisted some 30,000 Slavs in his army.

The Slavic populations that were placed in these segregated communities were used for military campaigns against the enemies of the Byzantines. In the Peloponnese, more Slavic invaders brought disorder to the western part of the peninsula, while the eastern part remained firmly under Byzantine domination. Empress Irene organised a military campaign which liberated those territories and restored Byzantine rule to the region, but it was not until emperor Nicephorus I's resettlement of some rural areas of Peloponnese with Greek-speakers from southern Italy, that the last trace of Slavic element was eliminated.

So now we fast forward. The slavs in the north were never fully turfed out of Greece. Northern Greece always had a few villages where they still spoke Bulgarian. They identified solely as Bulgarian. That is until a clever man called Tito hot the scene. This Croatian Slovene decided to rename the area held with Yugoslavia that contained Bulgarians bordering Greece - Macedonia. He did this in the hope of one day claiming an Aegean port in Greek Macedonia. Suddenly all these Bulgarians were given a new identity - Macedonian! They were taught/brainwashed that Greeks became extinct as a race and that modern Greeks are just Turks who decided to leave islam and become Christian.. even though that way they would be more persecuted and have to pay more tax and learn a new language etc.. 

However there is one angle missing. All communist Greeks wanted these Bulgars to merge with Greece. Most communist Greeks are from the north and have surnames that have slav references - ie they were slavs but became Greek over the last 1400 years. In both politics and academia - the Greek communists have helped this new nation 'Macedonia' rise and help propagate the myth that Greeks have no connection with ancient Greeks. During the civil war all the slavic speaking Greeks joined the communists along with Albanians, Bulgarians and everyone else bordering northern Greece to defeat the Royalist Greeks. They lost however... and the last of the slavs were expelled from Greece and moved back to Bulgaria and Fyrom. Many Greek communists moved to Romania and Hungary but most stayed - were allowed to breed and now all their descendants are SYRIZA politicians, state workers and academics and all of them hate Greece and see any type of historical patriotism as nazi/fascist.

Here is a good modern quick video summarising:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziJJBsZTt4Y

[StellaRojas]

So now we fast forward. The slavs in the north were never fully turfed out of Greece. They identified solely as Bulgarian. That is until a clever man called Tito hot the scene. this Croatian Slovene decided to rename the area held with Yugoslavia that contained Bulgar - Macedonia. He did this in the hope of one day claiming an Aegean port in Greek Macedonia

I do not agree with this part Faliro. Anyway, I do not think you wrote it with bad intentions, after all, you could not care less whether they are Serbians or Bulgarians. But a lot of them have a slava tradition ( patron saint), and these are Serbs. They inhabit the northern part of the country: Kumanovo etc. A lot of them had their last names changed from ending in -ic, to ending in -ov and -ev.

[Calcio]

Reis, former PAO, signed with Vitória Setúbal.

[Faliro]

So now we fast forward. The slavs in the north were never fully turfed out of Greece. They identified solely as Bulgarian. That is until a clever man called Tito hot the scene. this Croatian Slovene decided to rename the area held with Yugoslavia that contained Bulgar - Macedonia. He did this in the hope of one day claiming an Aegean port in Greek Macedonia

I do not agree with this part Faliro. Anyway, I do not think you wrote it with bad intentions, after all, you could not care less whether they are Serbians or Bulgarians. But a lot of them have a slava tradition ( patron saint), and these are Serbs. They inhabit the northern part of the country: Kumanovo etc. A lot of them had their last names changed from ending in -ic, to ending in -ov and -ev.

I am not duscussing the Albanians, Turks, gypsies or Serbs of Fyrom. Only the actual pure Bulgars who have spearheaded the revisionism.