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[Faliro]

Vlachodimos in the bench... Why? Something about the transfer?

No idea. However it looks that way. Just hoping Panionios beat them second half.

If you read something about that tell us. How he played last games?

He plays the same way. Fairly decent. Nothing special. Gianniotis is the one with talent.

PAO played a couple of their teenagers today. They are getting ready to lose everyone this month. Panionios beat them well.

They're gonna sell the whole team? Who should we pick up? 

What about the rest of the league? Who sould we and Oly be looking at? 

PAOK - 4
PAO - 0

Pelkas (remember him?) played a stunner.  His first two goals were another level. Was a super game - good enough to be in one of the two Iberian top leagues. Very high tempo. Pelkas is the type of player who the Greek NT will never start in a game - but nearly every other NT in the planet would.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYa4r7NPPiU

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What a fucking goal by Pelkas!

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Not sure if someone already asked you that...

But how the greeks feel in general about having Zeca in their national squad? 

[Faliro]

Not sure if someone already asked you that...

But how the greeks feel in general about having Zeca in their national squad? 

They have noticed he runs more than the native Greek players (not really an achievement - most Greek NT players walk during games and only attempt to jog if the ball is right in front of them..). I would say most Greeks feel this way:

[Faliro]

PAO's players are now starting to leave.


1   Greece   GK   Sokratis Dioudis  Meh..
2   Sweden   DF   Mattias Johansson  Rubbish
3   Argentina   DF   Emanuel Insúa  Meh..
4   Greece   DF   Giorgos Koutroubis Garbage
5   Portugal   DF   Nuno Reis Average
6   Greece   MF   Christos Donis (5th-captain) Meh
7   Israel   MF   Omri Altman Garbage
8   Sweden   FW   Guillermo Molins (4th-captain) Inconsistent - mostly garbage.
9   Argentina   FW   Andrés Chávez Garbage
10   France   MF   Anthony Mounier Garbage.
11   Ecuador   FW   Bryan Cabezas (on loan from Atalanta) Good.
14   Sweden   MF   Oscar Hiljemark (on loan from Genoa) Meh..
15   Greece   DF   Tasos Avlonitis Average..
17   Finland   MF   Robin Lod Average..
18   Brazil   FW   Luciano Garbage.
19   Argentina   MF   Lucas Villafáñez (3rd-captain) Average
21   Greece   MF   Dimitris Kourbelis (captain) Good player in right environment.
22   Greece   MF   Fanis Tzandaris Jury out.
23   Sweden   DF   Niklas Hult Garbage - terrible defender.
26   Greece   DF   Dimitrios Kolovetsios - Average.
27   Greece   GK   Konstantinos Kotsaris No idea.
29   Mali   MF   Yacouba Sylla (on loan from Rennais) No idea.
31   Brazil   DF   Rodrigo Moledo (vice-captain) Average.
34   Greece   MF   Paschalis Staikos No idea.
39   Greece   MF   Anastasios Chatzigiovannis No idea.
41   Greece   DF   Stefanos Evangelou No idea.
49   Greece   FW   Sotiris-Pantelis Pispas No idea.
78   Mali   DF   Ousmane Coulibaly Meh.. always injured too.
99   Germany   GK   Odisseas Vlachodimos Already said.

[Calcio]

PAO's players are now starting to leave.


1   Greece   GK   Sokratis Dioudis  Meh..
2   Sweden   DF   Mattias Johansson  Rubbish
3   Argentina   DF   Emanuel Insúa  Meh..
4   Greece   DF   Giorgos Koutroubis Garbage
5   Portugal   DF   Nuno Reis Average
6   Greece   MF   Christos Donis (5th-captain) Meh
7   Israel   MF   Omri Altman Garbage
8   Sweden   FW   Guillermo Molins (4th-captain) Inconsistent - mostly garbage.
9   Argentina   FW   Andrés Chávez Garbage
10   France   MF   Anthony Mounier Garbage.
11   Ecuador   FW   Bryan Cabezas (on loan from Atalanta) Good.
14   Sweden   MF   Oscar Hiljemark (on loan from Genoa) Meh..
15   Greece   DF   Tasos Avlonitis Average..
17   Finland   MF   Robin Lod Average..
18   Brazil   FW   Luciano Garbage.
19   Argentina   MF   Lucas Villafáñez (3rd-captain) Average
21   Greece   MF   Dimitris Kourbelis (captain) Good player in right environment.
22   Greece   MF   Fanis Tzandaris Jury out.
23   Sweden   DF   Niklas Hult Garbage - terrible defender.
26   Greece   DF   Dimitrios Kolovetsios - Average.
27   Greece   GK   Konstantinos Kotsaris No idea.
29   Mali   MF   Yacouba Sylla (on loan from Rennais) No idea.
31   Brazil   DF   Rodrigo Moledo (vice-captain) Average.
34   Greece   MF   Paschalis Staikos No idea.
39   Greece   MF   Anastasios Chatzigiovannis No idea.
41   Greece   DF   Stefanos Evangelou No idea.
49   Greece   FW   Sotiris-Pantelis Pispas No idea.
78   Mali   DF   Ousmane Coulibaly Meh.. always injured too.
99   Germany   GK   Odisseas Vlachodimos Already said.

And who are they looking to bring in? Will they only bring in youngster from the youth ranks?

Whats their status regarding bankrupcy and demotion?

[Faliro]

PAO's players are now starting to leave.


1   Greece   GK   Sokratis Dioudis  Meh..
2   Sweden   DF   Mattias Johansson  Rubbish
3   Argentina   DF   Emanuel Insúa  Meh..
4   Greece   DF   Giorgos Koutroubis Garbage
5   Portugal   DF   Nuno Reis Average
6   Greece   MF   Christos Donis (5th-captain) Meh
7   Israel   MF   Omri Altman Garbage
8   Sweden   FW   Guillermo Molins (4th-captain) Inconsistent - mostly garbage.
9   Argentina   FW   Andrés Chávez Garbage
10   France   MF   Anthony Mounier Garbage.
11   Ecuador   FW   Bryan Cabezas (on loan from Atalanta) Good.
14   Sweden   MF   Oscar Hiljemark (on loan from Genoa) Meh..
15   Greece   DF   Tasos Avlonitis Average..
17   Finland   MF   Robin Lod Average..
18   Brazil   FW   Luciano Garbage.
19   Argentina   MF   Lucas Villafáñez (3rd-captain) Average
21   Greece   MF   Dimitris Kourbelis (captain) Good player in right environment.
22   Greece   MF   Fanis Tzandaris Jury out.
23   Sweden   DF   Niklas Hult Garbage - terrible defender.
26   Greece   DF   Dimitrios Kolovetsios - Average.
27   Greece   GK   Konstantinos Kotsaris No idea.
29   Mali   MF   Yacouba Sylla (on loan from Rennais) No idea.
31   Brazil   DF   Rodrigo Moledo (vice-captain) Average.
34   Greece   MF   Paschalis Staikos No idea.
39   Greece   MF   Anastasios Chatzigiovannis No idea.
41   Greece   DF   Stefanos Evangelou No idea.
49   Greece   FW   Sotiris-Pantelis Pispas No idea.
78   Mali   DF   Ousmane Coulibaly Meh.. always injured too.
99   Germany   GK   Odisseas Vlachodimos Already said.

And who are they looking to bring in? Will they only bring in youngster from the youth ranks?

Whats their status regarding bankrupcy and demotion?

Firstly expect to see another 7 leave very soon. Who will they replace them with? Youth players like Pispas, Evangelou, Staikos, Emmanoulidis etc They will basically be playing their youth team. You never see this happen in Greece - will be a curious sight. They have given them all full contracts lately and are already giving them minutes - last game vs Xanthi they started Pispas and gave Donis and Koudouriotis minutes. They have also signed Vangelis Ikonomou today who played for Panionios to become the new starting CB.

Financially they are in big trouble. UEFA somehow decided not to ban them from UEFA competition last week..  Also they have been allowed to make transfers this winter.  This week they have court cases that will be heard concerning the non payment of former players who are demanding all their money and have been waiting in some cases years. Tomorrow is the court case for non payments of Rasmus Thelander. Weds the court case for non payment of Wemmer. Thurs court cases for non payment of Toche, Leto and Esien! However these are not the only ones suing right now, there are many more also taking PAO to court - but these players will probably come to court later. PAO will seek to adjourn each case to buy time to start paying them off after the new year when there will be some funds from selling the whole team available. PAO also have not paid their staff and everyone else associated with the team - including those who maintain the pitch etc.

Note 1.  Tsipras the PM is a lifelong PAO fan like others in the Govt. He is the one still trying to secure them a brand new stadium even as we speak!

Note 2.  I have a feeling - seeing as how beatable PAO are anyway - the minute they start playing their youth players - they will be even more beatable. They are mid way towards the bottom of the table already. There is very little distance between PAO and a team like Levadiakos.. with PAO's youth team making up most the 11.. they are in trouble.

[Faliro]

PAO's players are now starting to leave.


1   Greece   GK   Sokratis Dioudis  Meh..
2   Sweden   DF   Mattias Johansson  Rubbish
3   Argentina   DF   Emanuel Insúa  Meh..
4   Greece   DF   Giorgos Koutroubis Garbage
5   Portugal   DF   Nuno Reis Average
6   Greece   MF   Christos Donis (5th-captain) Meh
7   Israel   MF   Omri Altman Garbage
8   Sweden   FW   Guillermo Molins (4th-captain) Inconsistent - mostly garbage.
9   Argentina   FW   Andrés Chávez Garbage
10   France   MF   Anthony Mounier Garbage.
11   Ecuador   FW   Bryan Cabezas (on loan from Atalanta) Good.
14   Sweden   MF   Oscar Hiljemark (on loan from Genoa) Meh..
15   Greece   DF   Tasos Avlonitis Average..
17   Finland   MF   Robin Lod Average..
18   Brazil   FW   Luciano Garbage.
19   Argentina   MF   Lucas Villafáñez (3rd-captain) Average
21   Greece   MF   Dimitris Kourbelis (captain) Good player in right environment.
22   Greece   MF   Fanis Tzandaris Jury out.
23   Sweden   DF   Niklas Hult Garbage - terrible defender.
26   Greece   DF   Dimitrios Kolovetsios - Average.
27   Greece   GK   Konstantinos Kotsaris No idea.
29   Mali   MF   Yacouba Sylla (on loan from Rennais) No idea.
31   Brazil   DF   Rodrigo Moledo (vice-captain) Average.
34   Greece   MF   Paschalis Staikos No idea.
39   Greece   MF   Anastasios Chatzigiovannis No idea.
41   Greece   DF   Stefanos Evangelou No idea.
49   Greece   FW   Sotiris-Pantelis Pispas No idea.
78   Mali   DF   Ousmane Coulibaly Meh.. always injured too.
99   Germany   GK   Odisseas Vlachodimos Already said.

And who are they looking to bring in? Will they only bring in youngster from the youth ranks?

Whats their status regarding bankrupcy and demotion?

Cup play offs today.

Lamia 4
PAO 1



They started their strongest side too!! Not yet playing a youth 11!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT_eRPr7p5E

[Faliro]

Updated:


1   Greece   GK   Sokratis Dioudis  Meh..
2   Sweden   DF   Mattias Johansson  Rubbish
3   Argentina   DF   Emanuel Insúa  Meh..
4   Greece   DF   Giorgos Koutroubis Garbage
5   Portugal   DF   Nuno Reis Average
6   Greece   MF   Christos Donis (5th-captain) Meh
7   Israel   MF   Omri Altman Garbage
8   Sweden   FW   Guillermo Molins (4th-captain) Inconsistent - mostly garbage.
9   Argentina   FW   Andrés Chávez Garbage
10   France   MF   Anthony Mounier Garbage.
11   Ecuador   FW   Bryan Cabezas (on loan from Atalanta) Good.
14   Sweden   MF   Oscar Hiljemark (on loan from Genoa) Meh..
15   Greece   DF   Tasos Avlonitis Average..
17   Finland   MF   Robin Lod Average..
18   Brazil   FW   Luciano Garbage.
19   Argentina   MF   Lucas Villafáñez (3rd-captain) Average
21   Greece   MF   Dimitris Kourbelis (captain) Good player in right environment.
22   Greece   MF   Fanis Tzandaris Jury out.
23   Sweden   DF   Niklas Hult Garbage - terrible defender.
26   Greece   DF   Dimitrios Kolovetsios - Average.
27   Greece   GK   Konstantinos Kotsaris No idea.
29   Mali   MF   Yacouba Sylla (on loan from Rennais) No idea.
31   Brazil   DF   Rodrigo Moledo (vice-captain) Average.
34   Greece   MF   Paschalis Staikos No idea.
39   Greece   MF   Anastasios Chatzigiovannis No idea.
41   Greece   DF   Stefanos Evangelou No idea.
49   Greece   FW   Sotiris-Pantelis Pispas No idea.
78   Mali   DF   Ousmane Coulibaly Meh.. always injured too.
99   Germany   GK   Odisseas Vlachodimos Already said.

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Updated:


1   Greece   GK   Sokratis Dioudis  Meh..
2   Sweden   DF   Mattias Johansson  Rubbish
3   Argentina   DF   Emanuel Insúa  Meh..
4   Greece   DF   Giorgos Koutroubis Garbage
5   Portugal   DF   Nuno Reis Average
6   Greece   MF   Christos Donis (5th-captain) Meh
7   Israel   MF   Omri Altman Garbage
8   Sweden   FW   Guillermo Molins (4th-captain) Inconsistent - mostly garbage.
9   Argentina   FW   Andrés Chávez Garbage
10   France   MF   Anthony Mounier Garbage.
11   Ecuador   FW   Bryan Cabezas (on loan from Atalanta) Good.
14   Sweden   MF   Oscar Hiljemark (on loan from Genoa) Meh..
15   Greece   DF   Tasos Avlonitis Average..
17   Finland   MF   Robin Lod Average..
18   Brazil   FW   Luciano Garbage.
19   Argentina   MF   Lucas Villafáñez (3rd-captain) Average
21   Greece   MF   Dimitris Kourbelis (captain) Good player in right environment.
22   Greece   MF   Fanis Tzandaris Jury out.
23   Sweden   DF   Niklas Hult Garbage - terrible defender.
26   Greece   DF   Dimitrios Kolovetsios - Average.
27   Greece   GK   Konstantinos Kotsaris No idea.
29   Mali   MF   Yacouba Sylla (on loan from Rennais) No idea.
31   Brazil   DF   Rodrigo Moledo (vice-captain) Average.
34   Greece   MF   Paschalis Staikos No idea.
39   Greece   MF   Anastasios Chatzigiovannis No idea.
41   Greece   DF   Stefanos Evangelou No idea.
49   Greece   FW   Sotiris-Pantelis Pispas No idea.
78   Mali   DF   Ousmane Coulibaly Meh.. always injured too.
99   Germany   GK   Odisseas Vlachodimos Already said.

Has Oly tried to pick one of their players yet?

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Updated:


1   Greece   GK   Sokratis Dioudis  Meh..
2   Sweden   DF   Mattias Johansson  Rubbish
3   Argentina   DF   Emanuel Insúa  Meh..
4   Greece   DF   Giorgos Koutroubis Garbage
5   Portugal   DF   Nuno Reis Average
6   Greece   MF   Christos Donis (5th-captain) Meh
7   Israel   MF   Omri Altman Garbage
8   Sweden   FW   Guillermo Molins (4th-captain) Inconsistent - mostly garbage.
9   Argentina   FW   Andrés Chávez Garbage
10   France   MF   Anthony Mounier Garbage.
11   Ecuador   FW   Bryan Cabezas (on loan from Atalanta) Good.
14   Sweden   MF   Oscar Hiljemark (on loan from Genoa) Meh..
15   Greece   DF   Tasos Avlonitis Average..
17   Finland   MF   Robin Lod Average..
18   Brazil   FW   Luciano Garbage.
19   Argentina   MF   Lucas Villafáñez (3rd-captain) Average
21   Greece   MF   Dimitris Kourbelis (captain) Good player in right environment.
22   Greece   MF   Fanis Tzandaris Jury out.
23   Sweden   DF   Niklas Hult Garbage - terrible defender.
26   Greece   DF   Dimitrios Kolovetsios - Average.
27   Greece   GK   Konstantinos Kotsaris No idea.
29   Mali   MF   Yacouba Sylla (on loan from Rennais) No idea.
31   Brazil   DF   Rodrigo Moledo (vice-captain) Average.
34   Greece   MF   Paschalis Staikos No idea.
39   Greece   MF   Anastasios Chatzigiovannis No idea.
41   Greece   DF   Stefanos Evangelou No idea.
49   Greece   FW   Sotiris-Pantelis Pispas No idea.
78   Mali   DF   Ousmane Coulibaly Meh.. always injured too.
99   Germany   GK   Odisseas Vlachodimos Already said.

Has Oly tried to pick one of their players yet?

If there was anyone decent we would have tried.. They are having trouble finding buyers for their players... They assumed everyone would want them..

[Arceus_17]

The Portuguese are not stupid people. That is obvious. They work out how to move forward.
There is a spark there. When I meet a Greek who is smart - I feel like adopting them - they are so rare. How they have intellectually survived everything around them is fascinating.

Greeks are regressive for the most part. Self saboteurs. The Greeks of the revolution in the 1820s are a minority.

I am fucking tired of Greek NT football. The fucking Syriza Sports Minister came out today and said Skibbe has to stay as coach and was just 'unlucky.' 

Greeks threw away everything that was achieved in 2004. We actually bizarrely and quite ingeniously managed to undo every single positive.   Said it enough on here. Greece is a beautiful country - seriously - the land is blessed. Naturally gorgeous place. The people? As Kazantzakis said - Greece needs to be lifted up - brush all the people into the see and start again.

No, we can be worse than albanians. More stupid for sure.

This happened just this week: An old fuck that was raped by his bf hours ago gets interviewed on live public tv (in the morning for the kids to watch) and says he didn't enjoy being raped though he enjoys being fucked and then goes on to talk about how his bf forced him to wear a leash and a collar and how he had sex with countless other man in the "beaches and woods" in his youth.

Months ago, you might have heard of this one, Ronaldo threw a microphone of an annoying reporter into a lake. That TV channel later on made a live emission to show how the microphone was rescued. They even hired professional divers to perform the task who were also interviewed.

But people here seem to love this circus. This stupidity plagues all the country, people are overall mediocre, envious of their neighbour and absolutely adore to badmouth all the time, just annoying af. You criticize Greek people for the leftist tendency and the inability to know the best for themselves but we're also not so different on that.
A town's mayor was arrested 1 year (was initially 7, then 2...) for fiscal crimes and money laundry, and when he got out of jail he submitted his candidature for mayor in the same town again. Guess who was elected?

Sorry for the incoherent rant and the OT.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X30liGNGU1k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA8__3zFQ4c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-fRVW6O-gc

[Faliro]

The Portuguese are not stupid people. That is obvious. They work out how to move forward.
There is a spark there. When I meet a Greek who is smart - I feel like adopting them - they are so rare. How they have intellectually survived everything around them is fascinating.

Greeks are regressive for the most part. Self saboteurs. The Greeks of the revolution in the 1820s are a minority.

I am fucking tired of Greek NT football. The fucking Syriza Sports Minister came out today and said Skibbe has to stay as coach and was just 'unlucky.' 

Greeks threw away everything that was achieved in 2004. We actually bizarrely and quite ingeniously managed to undo every single positive.   Said it enough on here. Greece is a beautiful country - seriously - the land is blessed. Naturally gorgeous place. The people? As Kazantzakis said - Greece needs to be lifted up - brush all the people into the see and start again.

No, we can be worse than albanians. More stupid for sure.

This happened just this week: An old fuck that was raped by his bf hours ago gets interviewed on live public tv (in the morning for the kids to watch) and says he didn't enjoy being raped though he enjoys being fucked and then goes on to talk about how his bf forced him to wear a leash and a collar and how he had sex with countless other man in the "beaches and woods" in his youth.

Months ago, you might have heard of this one, Ronaldo threw a microphone of an annoying reporter into a lake. That TV channel later on made a live emission to show how the microphone was rescued. They even hired professional divers to perform the task who were also interviewed.

But people here seem to love this circus. This stupidity plagues all the country, people are overall mediocre, envious of their neighbour and absolutely adore to badmouth all the time, just annoying af. You criticize Greek people for the leftist tendency and the inability to know the best for themselves but we're also not so different on that.
A town's mayor was arrested 1 year (was initially 7, then 2...) for fiscal crimes and money laundry, and when he got out of jail he submitted his candidature for mayor in the same town again. Guess who was elected?

Sorry for the incoherent rant and the OT.

I see the problem. For me Greece is still another level. There are Greeks who live to make sure Greece as a country no longer exists. It would be the equivalent of a massive group of Portuguese leftists saying Portugal does not exist and is a fabrication and needs to join with Spain.

Also this stuff happens daily and no one cares..

https://munchies.vice.com/en_us/article/8xvgwp/greek-anarchists-say-theyre-injecting-groceries-with-toxic-acid

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AEK sign Masoud and Moran to replace long term injured players Johansson and Mantalos.