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[Faliro]

Signatures fell (to use the greek terminology) on the new PAO stadium today. Funding is secured from mixture of banks who own the adjacent shopping mall and regional funds. Construction will begin next year.

The stadium will be a 35k-40k stadium (largest football specific stadium in Greece) and will keep the baby Dragão design by Salgado from 2006

https://www.sport24.gr/football/panathinaikos-gipedo-votanikos-dragao.9055831.html

What is the utility of the Olympic stadium today? Is it only available for finals, international events or concerts? It looks like it's empty all time of the year.

It currently hosts both PAO and AEK and because of the stupidity of the Greek federation,  rarely even hosts cup finals these days.

It seems empty because PAO and AEK can barely fill it, although to be fair to AEK, they are getting 50k crowds there for nearly all their European games. However for home games vs a team like Volos or OFI.. maybe about 17k.. to 9k...

I have actually been to the OAKA to watch the 200m final in the Olympics. It truly is a poor stadium for the fans although I was on the bottom tier. The stadium always suits the away side. Unless it is full it is hard to build an atmosphere there.

The OAKA used to host more events.  I thought the Acropolis Rally being held there was pretty cool.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hVr-UZRyU88

AEK leave at the end of the season to their new home and when PAO finish their stadium in 2023, I am not sure what it will be used for besides cup finals.

[Galrinho1#]

Signatures fell (to use the greek terminology) on the new PAO stadium today. Funding is secured from mixture of banks who own the adjacent shopping mall and regional funds. Construction will begin next year.

The stadium will be a 35k-40k stadium (largest football specific stadium in Greece) and will keep the baby Dragão design by Salgado from 2006

https://www.sport24.gr/football/panathinaikos-gipedo-votanikos-dragao.9055831.html

What is the utility of the Olympic stadium today? Is it only available for finals, international events or concerts? It looks like it's empty all time of the year.

It currently hosts both PAO and AEK and because of the stupidity of the Greek federation,  rarely even hosts cup finals these days.

It seems empty because PAO and AEK can barely fill it, although to be fair to AEK, they are getting 50k crowds there for nearly all their European games. However for home games vs a team like Volos or OFI.. maybe about 17k.. to 9k...

I have actually been to the OAKA to watch the 200m final in the Olympics. It truly is a poor stadium for the fans although I was on the bottom tier. The stadium always suits the away side. Unless it is full it is hard to build an atmosphere there.

The OAKA used to host more events.  I thought the Acropolis Rally being held there was pretty cool.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hVr-UZRyU88

AEK leave at the end of the season to their new home and when PAO finish their stadium in 2023, I am not sure what it will be used for besides cup finals.

Thanks. 

That stadium reminds me of the only olympic game I bought. Many hours playing this

[Faliro]

 

I remember that Olympics.  All the Greek guys just wanted tickets for the female beach volleyball.. 

[Covenant]

Panathinaikos is a big club, they just need a good team and a good stadium.

[Faliro]

Panathinaikos is a big club, they just need a good team and a good stadium.

Concerning the stadium, according to the Amateur PAO president yesterday it will be 40k and therefore the biggest football specific stadium in Greece. The design by Manuel Salgado, despite being 16 years old, looks superior to most the other stadia in Greece. The plot in Votanikos is also huge despite being in central Athens. It is a massive project.



The stadium is set to be completed by 2023 (all planning was passed years ago). Taking into account AEK's Agia Sofia facility is almost finished, by 2023, the stadium makeup of the top Super League teams will be very different from today.

PAO Votanikos - 40k
Nea Toumba - 37k?
Karaiskaki - 32k
Agia Sofia - 31k

Compared to today where AEK and PAO are forced to play at the OAKA and the Toumba resembles a stadium in Syria.

The new list is still not spectacular, but enough to dominate the entire peninsular and enough to make Athens a type of footballing capital. Nearly all managers and players have cited Greece's lack of good stadia as holding it back. Everything else is there - passion, technical knowledge, training facilities. The stadiums were the weak point. We must also remember that Greek stadiums are excessively urban. Rarely in Greece do fans agree to move their stadiums away from where the original stadiums were. This is why AEK had to settle for a smaller stadium at Nea Filadelfeia - simply because they wanted the new stadium built on the same ground as the old one. The new Toumba will also be built on the site of the old one despite more suitable sites being available out of town. Why this is good in a way though is that although the stadiums will therefore never be massive - they are claustrophobic for the away side both inside and out and this is another advantage that the Greeks have managed to keep.

Concerning PAO, they used to be massive. Their basketball department still is very well supported.

I suspect when the stadium is built they will actually fill it for the derbies and European games because of their nature. In Greece their fans are known as rabbits. Always hiding. But there are still many of them. They just don't want to be associated with the current club and only turn up when they think they have a chance of winning.  Even more funny, I know one or two Vazelos who go to watch Olympiacos in Europe in a bar on TV - only to support the opposing team. When it is clear Olympiacos are winning they leave angry. Why this is absurd is that I see them going to watch Olympiacos hoping that the other team beats us, more than I see them going to bars to watch their own team.. Finally, whatever anyone says, PAO is a team of the wealthy in Athens. Most the career politicians and wealthy celebs love PAO - hence why they are not paying for any of this stadium themselves. The Government is giving them a nice present.

BTW, was the derby today, OSFP vs PAO. We won 1-0  despite missing half the team.. Xolebas, El Arabi, Hassan, Vinagre, Valbuena etc all out.. PAO's Portuguese winger Xavier seems to have picked up a nasty knock. Was in tears leaving the pitch.

[T1n0_SLB]

Greeks are right, the stadiuns need to be in the city, in Portugal most of the stadiuns gor euro 04 were rebuilt in the site of the previous stadiuns, Braga had a stadium close to city center instead of rebuilting it they choose to built the most expebdive stadium in Pirtugal, a monster in the midle of nowhere.

[Covenant]

Greeks are right, the stadiuns need to be in the city, in Portugal most of the stadiuns gor euro 04 were rebuilt in the site of the previous stadiuns, Braga had a stadium close to city center instead of rebuilting it they choose to built the most expebdive stadium in Pirtugal, a monster in the midle of nowhere.

Aveiro same thing.

[Faliro]

The Braga stadium is simply a fascinating feet of engineering.

Will be curious if they ever build a 3rd stand.

[Covenant]

The Braga stadium is simply a fascinating feet of engineering.

Will be curious if they ever build a 3rd stand.

It is ugly. Even the club want to left the stadium.

[Faliro]

The Braga stadium is simply a fascinating feet of engineering.

Will be curious if they ever build a 3rd stand.

It is ugly. Even the club want to left the stadium.

Too far from town?

[Covenant]

The Braga stadium is simply a fascinating feet of engineering.

Will be curious if they ever build a 3rd stand.

It is ugly. Even the club want to left the stadium.

Too far from town?

Yap. They have a plan to reform their old stadium or build a new one in the same place.
http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/europe/portugal/braga_1_maio.shtml

[Calcio]

Aris seems to have gotten their manager choice correct!

[Faliro]

Aris seems to have gotten their manager choice correct!

Not only that, they may have just finished off PAOK on and off the field!

Marios Siampanis said someone approached him with the offer of a large sum to throw the game for PAOK! He has given his evidence to the prosecutor's office!

[T1n0_SLB]

The Braga stadium is simply a fascinating feet of engineering.

Will be curious if they ever build a 3rd stand.

It's a big pile of shit, the most expensive and one of the most useless stadium in the country.

[Calcio]

Mitro to ARIS