Besiktas

Black Eagle

Citação de: Covenant em 02 de Março de 2018, 14:57
Citação de: Black Eagle em 27 de Fevereiro de 2018, 16:40
Here is the highlights of Besiktas-Fenerbahce derbi game. Despite Cuneyt Cakir's and other refs.' favor for Fenerbahce, Besiktas raped Fenerbahce. Fenerbahce scored a goal that was a clean offside but ref. who is a Fenerbahce fan did not raise the flag, Cuneyt Cakir did not give our penalty but we still won the derby.

http://tr.beinsports.com/lig/spor-toto-super-lig/ozet/2017-2018/23/besiktas-3-1-fenerbahce-mac-ozeti
Yesterday game was tough.

Actually if you play with Fenerbahce, all games are tough for the opponents because beating Fenerbahce is not enough you have yo beat the referees as well. Please take a look at these videos from yesterday.

For instance no yellow card was given here: https://twitter.com/cemgonc/status/969541389557075969

No yellow card was given here either : https://twitter.com/cemgonc/status/969544115414294528

No free kick as given here:
https://twitter.com/cemgonc/status/969527482738266112

No decision against Fenerbahce: https://twitter.com/cemgonc/status/969520213136957440

Fenerbahce goalie provokes Besiktas fans but no yellow card: https://twitter.com/cemgonc/status/969488904582848512

The ref. gave Quaresma a red card but nothing to Fenerbahce player: https://twitter.com/cemgonc/status/969624714661580800

And the ref. did not give penalty here: https://twitter.com/search?q=babel%20penalti&src=typd

Unfortunately, Turkish referees favor Fenerbahce in every derby games against Besiktas and Galatasaray. It is a corrupt club with a very strong lobby. 



Godescalco

And yet Fenerbahçe finished the match with 9 players only.

Black Eagle

Citação de: Gottschalk em 03 de Março de 2018, 01:22
And yet Fenerbahçe finished the match with 9 players only.

Two more players of theirs should have been sent off as well. By the way, Besiktas has not been given penalty against Fenerbahce since 1998. Can you imagine this? In the last 2 games two very clear penalties were not given.

sbremoved_28408

Citação de: Black Eagle em 03 de Março de 2018, 01:55
Citação de: Gottschalk em 03 de Março de 2018, 01:22
And yet Fenerbahçe finished the match with 9 players only.

Two more players of theirs should have been sent off as well. By the way, Besiktas has not been given penalty against Fenerbahce since 1998. Can you imagine this? In the last 2 games two very clear penalties were not given.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGwaAvQzQW4

Godescalco

Citação de: Benfiquista_de_1ª em 03 de Março de 2018, 01:57
Citação de: Black Eagle em 03 de Março de 2018, 01:55
Citação de: Gottschalk em 03 de Março de 2018, 01:22
And yet Fenerbahçe finished the match with 9 players only.

Two more players of theirs should have been sent off as well. By the way, Besiktas has not been given penalty against Fenerbahce since 1998. Can you imagine this? In the last 2 games two very clear penalties were not given.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGwaAvQzQW4

:rir:

Cloughie


Black Eagle

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Citação de: Gottschalk em 03 de Março de 2018, 02:08
Citação de: Benfiquista_de_1ª em 03 de Março de 2018, 01:57
Citação de: Black Eagle em 03 de Março de 2018, 01:55
Citação de: Gottschalk em 03 de Março de 2018, 01:22
And yet Fenerbahçe finished the match with 9 players only.

Two more players of theirs should have been sent off as well. By the way, Besiktas has not been given penalty against Fenerbahce since 1998. Can you imagine this? In the last 2 games two very clear penalties were not given.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGwaAvQzQW4

:rir:

Sorry guys, I have just checked and learned that we have not given penalty In home games since 1998.  And this is the last penalty we won against Fenerbahce and it was an away game. But no penalty at our home games since 1998.

Black Eagle

#172
Citação de: Cloughie em 03 de Março de 2018, 02:26
Clearly a game of 1998.

In the last 20 years just 2 penalty and they were given in away games. In the first game this season Fenerbahce won the game 2-1 and they scored two penalty goals.


Now watch the following videos.

This was a penalty given to Fenerbahce.

https://twitter.com/fantaugur/status/911682765480964096

This video is from the same match, and the same ref. did not give Besiktas penalty.
https://twitter.com/fantaugur/status/911682765480964096

This video is from the game played on last Sunday: https://twitter.com/ThisBesiktas/status/968027407302189056

This is a video from last season and again the ref. did not give penalty against Fenerbahce
https://twitter.com/authorbesiktas/status/968927910651400192

This is from the last night game:

https://twitter.com/forzabesiktas/status/969298079701766144

These are just from last two seasons.




Covenant

Fenerbahçe = Porto.

Godescalco

There's no doubt Fenerbahçe have very good friends in high places. They've also been involved in corruption issues in the past like other Turkish clubs. Besiktas have been involved too, if memory doesn't fail me. It's a cultural phenomenon. The same happens in Greece and Italy.

Even so, in the past twenty years, there have been 4 different champions.

Galatasary won 9, Fenerbahçe won 6, Besiktas won 4 and Bursaspor won 1. It's a pretty balanced league.

Black Eagle

Citação de: Gottschalk em 03 de Março de 2018, 21:58
There's no doubt Fenerbahçe have very good friends in high places. They've also been involved in corruption issues in the past like other Turkish clubs. Besiktas have been involved too, if memory doesn't fail me. It's a cultural phenomenon. The same happens in Greece and Italy.

Even so, in the past twenty years, there have been 4 different champions.

Galatasary won 9, Fenerbahçe won 6, Besiktas won 4 and Bursaspor won 1. It's a pretty balanced league.

Besiktas could have dominated the league, but Galatasaray and Fenerbahce are very corrupt and their lobbies are very strong compared to Besiktas.

Please watch the following video from 1999 when Besiktas and Galatasaray competed for the league title. The ref. did not decide a penalty in favor of Besiktas here. Please watch and see how corrupt the Turkish refs. are. 

https://twitter.com/firatgunayer/status/960520711306608642

Black Eagle

Citação de: Covenant em 03 de Março de 2018, 08:38
Fenerbahçe = Porto.

In order to beat Fenerbahce, you have to beat the referees as well. Otherwise, it is impossible. Look in the first game against Fenerbahce, side referee cancelled Besiktas'a goal by raising flag for an offside. Watch and decide.

https://twitter.com/BesiktASKoIik_/status/964665119765614592


sbremoved_28408

Citação de: Black Eagle em 07 de Março de 2018, 16:25
Citação de: Gottschalk em 03 de Março de 2018, 21:58
There's no doubt Fenerbahçe have very good friends in high places. They've also been involved in corruption issues in the past like other Turkish clubs. Besiktas have been involved too, if memory doesn't fail me. It's a cultural phenomenon. The same happens in Greece and Italy.

Even so, in the past twenty years, there have been 4 different champions.

Galatasary won 9, Fenerbahçe won 6, Besiktas won 4 and Bursaspor won 1. It's a pretty balanced league.

Besiktas could have dominated the league, but Galatasaray and Fenerbahce are very corrupt and their lobbies are very strong compared to Besiktas.

Please watch the following video from 1999 when Besiktas and Galatasaray competed for the league title. The ref. did not decide a penalty in favor of Besiktas here. Please watch and see how corrupt the Turkish refs. are. 

https://twitter.com/firatgunayer/status/960520711306608642
Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe won because they had better teams. Now Besiktas has the best team and that's why they win.

And let's not forget that the current president of the TFF (previously Besiktas' president) and other people linked with Besiktas were also involved in a few scandals related with match fixing.

Corruption is a cultural problem in Turkey, it has nothing to do with this or that club.

Black Eagle

Citação de: Benfiquista_de_1ª em 07 de Março de 2018, 16:36
Citação de: Black Eagle em 07 de Março de 2018, 16:25
Citação de: Gottschalk em 03 de Março de 2018, 21:58
There's no doubt Fenerbahçe have very good friends in high places. They've also been involved in corruption issues in the past like other Turkish clubs. Besiktas have been involved too, if memory doesn't fail me. It's a cultural phenomenon. The same happens in Greece and Italy.

Even so, in the past twenty years, there have been 4 different champions.

Galatasary won 9, Fenerbahçe won 6, Besiktas won 4 and Bursaspor won 1. It's a pretty balanced league.

Besiktas could have dominated the league, but Galatasaray and Fenerbahce are very corrupt and their lobbies are very strong compared to Besiktas.

Please watch the following video from 1999 when Besiktas and Galatasaray competed for the league title. The ref. did not decide a penalty in favor of Besiktas here. Please watch and see how corrupt the Turkish refs. are. 

https://twitter.com/firatgunayer/status/960520711306608642
Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe won because they had better teams. Now Besiktas has the best team and that's why they win.

And let's not forget that the current president of the TFF (previously Besiktas' president) and other people linked with Besiktas were also involved in a few scandals related with match fixing.

Corruption is a cultural problem in Turkey, it has nothing to do with this or that club.

Be sure that what you know is partly correct. The prosecutors who investigated Fenerbahce's match fixing case, they deliberately added Besiktas to the case in order to give the impression that it is not a plot against Fenerbahce. Because they knew how Fenerbahce was strong and they made Besiktas a side dish in this case. Lots of tape wires were revealed Fenerbahce's president talking about match-fixing but nothing about Besiktas president or any members of the board. Now it is clear that Besiktas had nothing to do with match-fixing.

As for the present TFF president (Yildirim Demirören), It was the worst president of Besiktas in the history and Besiktas fans hate him. He is one of the richest businessmen in Turkey but is an idiot (his father wants him to be bussy with anything other than his companies). He doesn't want Besiktas to be successful under Fikret Orman's (current president) presidency. Besiktas doesn't want him to continue as the president of the TFF but he has a very good connection with Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

Galatasaray won the title many times with really shit teams, just because of their lobbies. A player like Felipe Melo had not been sent off in 34 games in Turkish league despite the fact that he committed many dangerous fouls to opponent players. When he transferred to Inter from Galatasaray He got red card in every four games.