Hellas futebol

[Covenant]

Masoud is a good player with experience. The spanish, I don't know...

[Covenant]

https://www.google.pt/amp/s/www.record.pt/internacional/paises/inglaterra/detalhe/AMP/mavropanos-o-nome-que-incendiou-a-internet-e-tirou-adeptos-do-arsenal-do-serio.html

Opinion?

[Faliro]

https://www.google.pt/amp/s/www.record.pt/internacional/paises/inglaterra/detalhe/AMP/mavropanos-o-nome-que-incendiou-a-internet-e-tirou-adeptos-do-arsenal-do-serio.html

Opinion?

Didn't even know who he is until today. There are quite a few like him Greece - probably faster than this guy too - at the same age. I think because Greeks are fairly robust physically, we produce a lot of these types of defenders. It seems CBs and Wing Backs are Greece's biggest football export.

BTW PAO fans are angry at this transfer. They are annoyed that this kid gets 2 million and they can't get anything near 500,000 for Moledo.. 

[StellaRojas]

Nothing to do with Hellas futebol..but since we were discussing nation's mentality...I have to say that this man, Mikis Theodorakis is an intelligent and honourable Greek. My deepest respect and gratitude to him. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oezuFoT4-yA

[Faliro]

Nothing to do with Hellas futebol..but since we were discussing nation's mentality...I have to say that this man, Mikis Theodorakis is an intelligent and honourable Greek. My deepest respect and gratitude to him. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oezuFoT4-yA

He speaks for millions of Greeks in that video.

[StellaRojas]

Nothing to do with Hellas futebol..but since we were discussing nation's mentality...I have to say that this man, Mikis Theodorakis is an intelligent and honourable Greek. My deepest respect and gratitude to him. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oezuFoT4-yA

He speaks for millions of Greeks in that video.

Yes, of course, gratitude to everyone who came and everyone who felt the same. But Mikis is among my favorite movie composers and I never knew about this video. And, God, I'm now tempted to learn Greek after Portuguese! If Milojevic could do it so can I!
I did not know about his leftist leanings and political involevement, but I appreciate him for his music and this support. Even though I do not adhere to most of his political views. He is from Hios and yet advocates better Greece-Turkey relations. Curious

[Faliro]

Nothing to do with Hellas futebol..but since we were discussing nation's mentality...I have to say that this man, Mikis Theodorakis is an intelligent and honourable Greek. My deepest respect and gratitude to him. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oezuFoT4-yA

He speaks for millions of Greeks in that video.

Yes, of course, gratitude to everyone who came and everyone who felt the same. But Mikis is among my favorite movie composers and I never knew about this video. And, God, I'm now tempted to learn Greek after Portuguese! If Milojevic could do it so can I!
I did not know about his leftist leanings and political involevement, but I appreciate him for his music and this support. Even though I do not adhere to most of his political views. He is from Hios and yet advocates better Greece-Turkey relations. Curious

He is a hard leftist, but also fairly patriotic. Quite a rare combination for an artist in Greece. Greek is easy to learn in the main.. once you get the alphabet - the verbs and everything else is very simple. Greeks also speak in a very logical and basic way. 

Made me laugh that last year Notis Sfakianakis admitted he liked Golden Dawn and all of Greece had a mental breakdown. Nice guy though, very talented too..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUaGCzCOZ6E

[Faliro]

Nothing to do with Hellas futebol..but since we were discussing nation's mentality...I have to say that this man, Mikis Theodorakis is an intelligent and honourable Greek. My deepest respect and gratitude to him. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oezuFoT4-yA

He speaks for millions of Greeks in that video.

Yes, of course, gratitude to everyone who came and everyone who felt the same. But Mikis is among my favorite movie composers and I never knew about this video. And, God, I'm now tempted to learn Greek after Portuguese! If Milojevic could do it so can I!
I did not know about his leftist leanings and political involevement, but I appreciate him for his music and this support. Even though I do not adhere to most of his political views. He is from Hios and yet advocates better Greece-Turkey relations. Curious

He is a hard leftist, but also fairly patriotic. Quite a rare combination for an artist in Greece. Greek is easy to learn in the main.. once you get the alphabet - the verbs and everything else is very simple. Greeks also speak in a very logical and basic way. 

Made me laugh that last year Notis Sfakianakis admitted he liked Golden Dawn and all of Greece had a mental breakdown. Nice guy though, very talented too..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUaGCzCOZ6E

BTW my Portuguese friends - this song has exceptionally beautiful lyrics. Was written by this man:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giorgos_Alkaios

From the article:

Giorgos Alkaios was born in Athens to Greek and Portuguese parents.[2] He is the son of Yiannis Vasileiou, a successful Greek elafro-laiko singer. His mother, Maria (Rodrigues) Griggs lives in Pembroke, Maine after moving from the Boston Area. Immediately after his birth, Alkaios moved to Boston, where he lived for three years.[2] Shortly after his parents divorced, he moved back to Greece with his father at age three.

Lyrics to the song:

http://lyricstranslate.com/en/opa-opa-opa-opa.html-6#ixzz53RHho9rb

From among your loose hair
Your glance hurts me so much
You say you decided to leave
You want to avoid the past

However stop, wait a bit
Get back and don't look ahead of you
Stop, wait a little bit
I want to tell you something
And after that - good-bye.

Opa, opa, opa, opa
I love you, even though I haven't said it
Opa, opa, opa, opa
Even though we're not like before

Now you're turning your back on me
You think it will be easy for you to leave
You took the wrong path again
You should know that it will take you nowhere

However stop, wait a bit
Get back and don't look ahead of you
Stop, wait a little bit
I want to tell you something
And after that - good-bye.

Opa, opa, opa, opa
I love you, even though I haven't said it
Opa, opa, opa, opa
Even though we're not like before

[StellaRojas]

Nothing to do with Hellas futebol..but since we were discussing nation's mentality...I have to say that this man, Mikis Theodorakis is an intelligent and honourable Greek. My deepest respect and gratitude to him. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oezuFoT4-yA

He speaks for millions of Greeks in that video.

Yes, of course, gratitude to everyone who came and everyone who felt the same. But Mikis is among my favorite movie composers and I never knew about this video. And, God, I'm now tempted to learn Greek after Portuguese! If Milojevic could do it so can I!
I did not know about his leftist leanings and political involevement, but I appreciate him for his music and this support. Even though I do not adhere to most of his political views. He is from Hios and yet advocates better Greece-Turkey relations. Curious

He is a hard leftist, but also fairly patriotic. Quite a rare combination for an artist in Greece. Greek is easy to learn in the main.. once you get the alphabet - the verbs and everything else is very simple. Greeks also speak in a very logical and basic way. 

Made me laugh that last year Notis Sfakianakis admitted he liked Golden Dawn and all of Greece had a mental breakdown. Nice guy though, very talented too..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUaGCzCOZ6E

These " unusual" combinations of beliefs are not so uncommon. I knew the assistant professor who is a gay and a nationalist.
I already know Greek alphabet, but nothing else, except for some common phrases, the vocabulary is not so familiar...some words are quite long and spelling is not phonetic, unlike Serbian.
I opened the video, waiting to find out which of our singers/ bands stole the song (probably with some compensation), and sure enough:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt3I8aEyHkc

There are many, many more examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_87Ai7L-tA ( Pali Monos Mou Milao)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSAorMWo3RU ( Epimeno)

They only change the lyrics.

[Cloughie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfqOrMlwOjs

My favorite that year.

[Faliro]

Nothing to do with Hellas futebol..but since we were discussing nation's mentality...I have to say that this man, Mikis Theodorakis is an intelligent and honourable Greek. My deepest respect and gratitude to him. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oezuFoT4-yA

He speaks for millions of Greeks in that video.

Yes, of course, gratitude to everyone who came and everyone who felt the same. But Mikis is among my favorite movie composers and I never knew about this video. And, God, I'm now tempted to learn Greek after Portuguese! If Milojevic could do it so can I!
I did not know about his leftist leanings and political involevement, but I appreciate him for his music and this support. Even though I do not adhere to most of his political views. He is from Hios and yet advocates better Greece-Turkey relations. Curious

He is a hard leftist, but also fairly patriotic. Quite a rare combination for an artist in Greece. Greek is easy to learn in the main.. once you get the alphabet - the verbs and everything else is very simple. Greeks also speak in a very logical and basic way. 

Made me laugh that last year Notis Sfakianakis admitted he liked Golden Dawn and all of Greece had a mental breakdown. Nice guy though, very talented too..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUaGCzCOZ6E

These " unusual" combinations of beliefs are not so uncommon. I knew the assistant professor who is a gay and a nationalist.
I already know Greek alphabet, but nothing else, except for some common phrases, the vocabulary is not so familiar...some words are quite long and spelling is not phonetic, unlike Serbian.

The Gay nationalist thing is also quite common, especially in northern europe.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pim_Fortuyn

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milo_Yiannopoulos

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Murray_(author)

As for Greek - it is phonetic - you just have to learn 4 or 5 diphthongs.



For example our football stadium named after the famous Greek war of independence fighter:

Καραϊσκάκης (gr)

Karaiskakis (en)

Pronounced in Greek - Kareskykis. Why? Because the 'ai' found everywhere in Greek = the 'e' sound. The final ά is used to link the previous diphthong - so the a is weak. However as i am typing this I realise I am using a really over complex example.   

A better example is to show you the extraordinary simplicity of the verbs.

Verb to want - Thelo (infinitive)

I want = Thelo
You want = Thelis
She wants = Theli

We want = Theloume
You want = Thelete
They want = Theloun

Easy. Future? Exceptionally easy:

I will want = Tha theliso
You will want = Tha thelisis
She will wants = Tha thelisi

We will want = Tha thelisoume
You will want = Tha thelisite
They will want = Tha Thelisoun

Past?

I want = Thelisa
You want = Thelises
She wants = Thelise

We want = Thelisame
You want = Thelisate
They want = Thelisa

Most verbs decline the same.

[StellaRojas]

Thanks a lot Faliro!

Well, it could be less difficult than my friend who has been learning it portrays it to be. I will give it s try.

I knew about others...but this Milo has a conundrum of mutually excluding ideas, which makes one wonder whether he truly adheres to some of them.

[StellaRojas]

[Faliro]

Oly won easily vs Xanthi. We look better each game. AEK dropped points in Larissa. PAOK still one point behind us.

Massive massive game on weds - the first leg of the Cup Quarter Final.

Olympiacos vs AEK. 17.30

[Covenant]

Thoughts on Garcia?