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[OmarLittle]

Surprised to see Giannina in there.

Yea, good spot. I think they are overstated by this poll and Aris understated slightly. I mean Iraklis, even now, has more fans than PAS and Atromitos. OFI looks a little understated too. AEK looks about right.

Whats the club before Atromitos? Smyrnis?

You mean PAS Giannina?

I think the Athens clubs goes as follows,

PAO
AEK
Panionios
Atromitos
Aegaleo
Fostiras
Kyfissia
Glyfada
Apollon Smyrnis

I really can't see any Apollon fans anywhere and they have one of the best stadiums in Athens too.


Atromitos should have gone down years ago but they merged with the then successful Xalkidona FC to take their league position.

The most popular Piraeus clubs are:
Olympiacos
Ethinkos (used to be quite good)
Ionikos
Proodeftiki

One final thought, if you were to add together the Niki Volou and Olympiakos Volou fans as one bundle, they would be just after OFI on the list.

On the list! 

Larissa

[Faliro]

Yip Larisa. Only club outside Athens and Salonika that has won the league.

[Benficaa]

PAOK is like FCPorto in the 80s ruled by mafia but without winning anything

[Faliro]

PAOK is like FCPorto in the 80s ruled by mafia but without winning anything

True and the league that PAOK won was only because Tsipras fixed the league with his sports minister in 2019, well summed up in this beautiful drawing:



Olympiacos: 'What's the commotion down there?'

PAOK: 'Ufff! Finally! After 93 years since my founding I have arrived!'

[Faliro]

After around 8 games, the most likely to rise from SL2 are Xanthi followed by Levadiakos and Veria. Kalamata, AEL and Egaleo also in the running.

[Calcio]

After around 8 games, the most likely to rise from SL2 are Xanthi followed by Levadiakos and Veria. Kalamata, AEL and Egaleo also in the running.

Another day for Iraklis down in the second. Also, no other Crete club.

[Faliro]

After around 8 games, the most likely to rise from SL2 are Xanthi followed by Levadiakos and Veria. Kalamata, AEL and Egaleo also in the running.

Another day for Iraklis down in the second. Also, no other Crete club.

Yea, I was thinking about Crete football. The owner of Ergotelis died and the club immediately left the SL and started disintegrating. The smaller clubs on the island are still growing. OFI has a new owner, new team (Samaras and his dad), new logo and will have a new stadium at the soon to be demolished airport. Add to this they have a good coach and the most fans on the island, I expect them to dominate the island from now on. It was no surprise they came to Athens last week and beat AEK. As for Iraklis, just terrible ownership. Xanthi are too big to fail and it seems they will be back to the SL soon. The joker is Kalamata. They have fans and are a good club. Egaleo have a nice stadium, but not sure they have any fans left.. They were originally Ieropoleos FC and in 1946 became Aigaleo.

[Calcio]

After around 8 games, the most likely to rise from SL2 are Xanthi followed by Levadiakos and Veria. Kalamata, AEL and Egaleo also in the running.

Another day for Iraklis down in the second. Also, no other Crete club.

Yea, I was thinking about Crete football. The owner of Ergotelis died and the club immediately left the SL and started disintegrating. The smaller clubs on the island are still growing. OFI has a new owner, new team (Samaras and his dad), new logo and will have a new stadium at the soon to be demolished airport. Add to this they have a good coach and the most fans on the island, I expect them to dominate the island from now on. It was no surprise they came to Athens last week and beat AEK. As for Iraklis, just terrible ownership. Xanthi are too big to fail and it seems they will be back to the SL soon. The joker is Kalamata. They have fans and are a good club. Egaleo have a nice stadium, but not sure they have any fans left.. They were originally Ieropoleos FC and in 1946 became Aigaleo.

Is the Chania merger giving results in terms of attendance? Or OFI and Ergotelis keep dominating the island?

[Faliro]

After around 8 games, the most likely to rise from SL2 are Xanthi followed by Levadiakos and Veria. Kalamata, AEL and Egaleo also in the running.

Another day for Iraklis down in the second. Also, no other Crete club.

Yea, I was thinking about Crete football. The owner of Ergotelis died and the club immediately left the SL and started disintegrating. The smaller clubs on the island are still growing. OFI has a new owner, new team (Samaras and his dad), new logo and will have a new stadium at the soon to be demolished airport. Add to this they have a good coach and the most fans on the island, I expect them to dominate the island from now on. It was no surprise they came to Athens last week and beat AEK. As for Iraklis, just terrible ownership. Xanthi are too big to fail and it seems they will be back to the SL soon. The joker is Kalamata. They have fans and are a good club. Egaleo have a nice stadium, but not sure they have any fans left.. They were originally Ieropoleos FC and in 1946 became Aigaleo.

Is the Chania merger giving results in terms of attendance? Or OFI and Ergotelis keep dominating the island?

I think the two Iraklion clubs will continue to dominate. Xania is a beautiful town.. but not sure they can muster the fans.. even with the merger..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rEy_VAfUIg

OFI are very strong atm.

[Faliro]

OFI sign Luiz Phellype from Sporting. Any good?

PAOK sign Felipe Soares from Moreirense. Thoughts?

[Faliro]

Poyet new Greek National Team manager.

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AEK want Santos as a manager if Portugal don't qualify. In the mean time they are trying to appoint the recently sacked National Team manager Van't Schip. 

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Greece still rocked by the murder of a young Aris fan by a group of roaming PAOK hooligans near the Aris stadium. They asked him which team he supported, he said Aris and they murdered him:

https://www.insideworldfootball.com/2022/02/09/greeks-crack-violence-aris-fan-murdered/

[Tomahawk]

Since this topic is about Greek Football, I present my tribute to perhaps the best (unknown) football player of all time: Vassilis Hatzipanagis, an explosive  mixture of Maradona, Fernando Chalana and Paulo Futre!!!

http://oindefectivel.blogspot.com/2021/06/a-grecia-teve-um-maradona-e-nao-o.html

https://www.ofutebologo.com.br/2021/09/hatzipanagis-greek-maradona.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11YBK9FmAiE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iid0bG-69-E

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxilwHrSYOI

. . .

[Faliro]

Perhaps the greatest ever Greek player - way before my time - so a mystery to me on many levels. Looking through old videos gives you an  idea however of his ability. Typical build of a Maradona type - low centre of gravity (5'8) - excellent awareness and control. If Anastopoulos is considered the best striker Greece ever had - Hatzipanagis is considered the best attacking mid.



Interesting picture simply because Iraklis had many fans back then.. 

The tragedy is he already represented the USSR - meaning Greece could never use him in the national team. If he was allowed to play for Greece - he was capable of helping Greece qualify for tournaments in the 70s and 80s.

[Festivus]

Was Fernando Santos absurdly lucky when he managed Greece as well?

[Faliro]

Was Fernando Santos absurdly lucky when he managed Greece as well?

He was. We would win sometimes by hypnotherapy. We were not playing football. The other team would not understand why we were playing with 3 CBs and 3DMs... at home... with a midfielder as a striker.. We played terrible, ugly football and many times the opposition would just get confused and ask their coach what to do..

His lineups made no sense and he was very stubborn but the media loved him because he was not connected with Olympiacos.