Vangelis Pavlidis

[Cob92]

Só eu é que trazia o outro grego que os lagartos estão a tentar? 

Um Benfica com pés e cabeça que tivesse folga financeira para apostar nesse tipo de contratações seria perfeitamente capaz de estourar 20 kilos para ter 3 avançados top (sabendo que podemos jogar com 2 na frente em alguns)

(E vamos ser honestos, o Iannodis è bom jogador mas seria uma contratação para chatear o sporting, a imagem daquilo que o Porto fez connosco durante vários anos)

Mas neste momento temos um Benfica que gasta sem parar em completo desespero para tentar encontrar as peças certas para os lugares certos.

Quem contrata tantos laterais esquerdos em apenas 1 ano e meio não pode ser sinal de competência e è apenas um exemplo.

[MuchoG]

Espero estar enganado mas acho que estamos perante um Cabral 2. Muita festa quando chegou mas depois...
Para mim, Ioannidis é muito mais jogador.
Mas espero estar enganado.

nao é esse que é titular na seleção grega em detrimento do Pavlidis?

The National team tends to favorite players that play in the Big 4 of the Greek League, than players abroad.

Ioannidis started in the last friendly against Germany, he was injured on the 10' minute and was replaced by Pavlidis.

As I said I really hope that Ioannidis continues to evolve, as the talent is there and he plays for my team (but probably not for long).
But he had just one brilliant year. He is good creative, but in situations where a cold blooded striker decision is needed Pavlidis is better.
There are also a few minus points:
- He seems to be injury prone and less atheltic (every year for the last 3 years he loses 1-2 months due to injuries
- He shows some signs of diva (dating older than him TV personalities etc)
- Even if he signed with Sporting f.ex in the back of his head he will always want to play in the italian or English League.

By the way if you are shopping from Greece, I am curious why no one has tried to get Konstantelias  https://www.transfermarkt.pt/giannis-konstantelias/profil/spieler/628331

At 20 last year (he just turned 21 3 months ago) he had a great and full season with the Greek Champions. He is BY FAR the biggest talent of Greek Football of recent years. He is everything you wished Orkun Kökçü was when you signed him x2 at just 21 with unlimited potential.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4ZAGbmFpc8

Also do you know what the plan for the starting 11 is for the forwards ?
Is Neres healthy or will Rollheiser play right ?
Who will play Left Winger, João Mário ?
Who will be starting attacking Midfield. Rafa is gone and I heard there are issues with Orkun.

Have a nice day all !

The most probable lineup is Aursnes on the left, Di Maria on the right, Kokcu in the middle playing as a 10, and Pavlidis up front obviously.

Which we'll have to wait and see how it goes since it's very different compared to what we are running right now. He seems to have great chemistry already with Marcos Leonardo as a striker duo, and has already linked up with Neres.

Lineups aside, still early but he seems like a great fit. Very available without the ball, good technique and positioning, scores tap ins because he knows where to be. Already had a very sweet finish against Celta.

[ajnogueira]

Só eu é que trazia o outro grego que os lagartos estão a tentar? 

Um Benfica com pés e cabeça que tivesse folga financeira para apostar nesse tipo de contratações seria perfeitamente capaz de estourar 20 kilos para ter 3 avançados top (sabendo que podemos jogar com 2 na frente em alguns)

(E vamos ser honestos, o Iannodis è bom jogador mas seria uma contratação para chatear o sporting, a imagem daquilo que o Porto fez connosco durante vários anos)

Mas neste momento temos um Benfica que gasta sem parar em completo desespero para tentar encontrar as peças certas para os lugares certos.

Quem contrata tantos laterais esquerdos em apenas 1 ano e meio não pode ser sinal de competência e è apenas um exemplo.

Houve uma outra vez em que já tínhamos avançados, e decidimos também contratar um ponta de lança grego só para chatear o Sporting...

E não é que funcionou melhor do que imaginávamos?

[10Elmago]

Independentemente de como irá ser daqui para a frente, desta vez acertaram no perfil. Até pode falhar redondamente (o que duvido), mas existiu o cuidado de irmos buscar alguém que preenche o perfil pretendido pelo treinador e pelo qual a equipa suspirava.

[Android1974]

Quem decidiu ir pelo Cabral em vez deste devia ser chamado à pedra. Fico com a impressão que a época toda teria sido muito diferente. Não digo um sucesso igual ao da primeira, porque solucionávamos a saída do G.Ramos, mas não totalmente a do E.Fernández e, sobretudo, a do Grimaldo, sem falar do impacto negativo do Di María no jogo coletivo, mas...

[AlexGR]

Quem decidiu ir pelo Cabral em vez deste devia ser chamado à pedra. Fico com a impressão que a época toda teria sido muito diferente. Não digo um sucesso igual ao da primeira, porque solucionávamos a saída do G.Ramos, mas não totalmente a do E.Fernández e, sobretudo, a do Grimaldo, mas...

Some interesting stats
Blue: Pavlidis last year
Green: Cabral last year
Yellow:  Cabral last Fiorentina Year



Passes Received, per 90
The number of passes received by a striker from his team-mates; normalized per 90 minutes.

Aerial, %
The percentage of aerial duels won by a striker.

Non-Penalty Goals, per 90
The number of goals scored by a striker excluding penalty kicks; normalized per 90 minutes.

Expected Goals, per 90
The number of goals expected from a striker based on the quality of their chances; normalized per 90 minutes.

Passes to Penalty Area, per 90
The number of passes delivered by a striker into the opponent's penalty area; normalized per 90 minutes.

Expected Assists, per 90
The number of assists expected from a striker based on the quality of their chance creation and the positions of teammates; normalized per 90 minutes.

Offensive Actions, per 90
Sum of shots, crosses and dribbles; normalized per 90 minutes.

[poliban]

Espero estar enganado mas acho que estamos perante um Cabral 2. Muita festa quando chegou mas depois...
Para mim, Ioannidis é muito mais jogador.
Mas espero estar enganado.

nao é esse que é titular na seleção grega em detrimento do Pavlidis?

The National team tends to favorite players that play in the Big 4 of the Greek League, than players abroad.

Ioannidis started in the last friendly against Germany, he was injured on the 10' minute and was replaced by Pavlidis.

As I said I really hope that Ioannidis continues to evolve, as the talent is there and he plays for my team (but probably not for long).
But he had just one brilliant year. He is good creative, but in situations where a cold blooded striker decision is needed Pavlidis is better.
There are also a few minus points:
- He seems to be injury prone and less atheltic (every year for the last 3 years he loses 1-2 months due to injuries
- He shows some signs of diva (dating older than him TV personalities etc)
- Even if he signed with Sporting f.ex in the back of his head he will always want to play in the italian or English League.

By the way if you are shopping from Greece, I am curious why no one has tried to get Konstantelias  https://www.transfermarkt.pt/giannis-konstantelias/profil/spieler/628331

At 20 last year (he just turned 21 3 months ago) he had a great and full season with the Greek Champions. He is BY FAR the biggest talent of Greek Football of recent years. He is everything you wished Orkun Kökçü was when you signed him x2 at just 21 with unlimited potential.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4ZAGbmFpc8

Also do you know what the plan for the starting 11 is for the forwards ?
Is Neres healthy or will Rollheiser play right ?
Who will play Left Winger, João Mário ?
Who will be starting attacking Midfield. Rafa is gone and I heard there are issues with Orkun.

Have a nice day all !

The most probable lineup is Aursnes on the left, Di Maria on the right, Kokcu in the middle playing as a 10, and Pavlidis up front obviously.

Which we'll have to wait and see how it goes since it's very different compared to what we are running right now. He seems to have great chemistry already with Marcos Leonardo as a striker duo, and has already linked up with Neres.

Lineups aside, still early but he seems like a great fit. Very available without the ball, good technique and positioning, scores tap ins because he knows where to be. Already had a very sweet finish against Celta.

Kokçu a titular? Deve ser.
Nem o di Maria deve ser.

[20Nico Gaitan20]

3le é bom mas o Sporting inflizmente  tem la um gajo que parece o extreminador implacavel a fazer golos...pqp

Vem de lesao e faz logo 3 golos ao farense em apenas 45 minutos.



Ou o nosso Grego faz mais de 20 golos só no tugao...ou entao nao sei como se pode sequer equiparar ao sporting nesta fase.

[Android1974]

Espero estar enganado mas acho que estamos perante um Cabral 2. Muita festa quando chegou mas depois...
Para mim, Ioannidis é muito mais jogador.
Mas espero estar enganado.

nao é esse que é titular na seleção grega em detrimento do Pavlidis?

The National team tends to favorite players that play in the Big 4 of the Greek League, than players abroad.

Ioannidis started in the last friendly against Germany, he was injured on the 10' minute and was replaced by Pavlidis.

As I said I really hope that Ioannidis continues to evolve, as the talent is there and he plays for my team (but probably not for long).
But he had just one brilliant year. He is good creative, but in situations where a cold blooded striker decision is needed Pavlidis is better.
There are also a few minus points:
- He seems to be injury prone and less atheltic (every year for the last 3 years he loses 1-2 months due to injuries
- He shows some signs of diva (dating older than him TV personalities etc)
- Even if he signed with Sporting f.ex in the back of his head he will always want to play in the italian or English League.

By the way if you are shopping from Greece, I am curious why no one has tried to get Konstantelias  https://www.transfermarkt.pt/giannis-konstantelias/profil/spieler/628331

At 20 last year (he just turned 21 3 months ago) he had a great and full season with the Greek Champions. He is BY FAR the biggest talent of Greek Football of recent years. He is everything you wished Orkun Kökçü was when you signed him x2 at just 21 with unlimited potential.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4ZAGbmFpc8

Also do you know what the plan for the starting 11 is for the forwards ?
Is Neres healthy or will Rollheiser play right ?
Who will play Left Winger, João Mário ?
Who will be starting attacking Midfield. Rafa is gone and I heard there are issues with Orkun.

Have a nice day all !

The most probable lineup is Aursnes on the left, Di Maria on the right, Kokcu in the middle playing as a 10, and Pavlidis up front obviously.

Which we'll have to wait and see how it goes since it's very different compared to what we are running right now. He seems to have great chemistry already with Marcos Leonardo as a striker duo, and has already linked up with Neres.

Lineups aside, still early but he seems like a great fit. Very available without the ball, good technique and positioning, scores tap ins because he knows where to be. Already had a very sweet finish against Celta.

Kokçu a titular? Deve ser.
Nem o di Maria deve ser.

É isso, a esperança é a última a morrer...

Uma coisa é certa: manter Kökçü a suplente é uma irresponsabilidade financeira.

[bnfc]

3le é bom mas o Sporting inflizmente  tem la um gajo que parece o extreminador implacavel a fazer golos...pqp

Vem de lesao e faz logo 3 golos ao farense em apenas 45 minutos.

Ou o nosso Grego faz mais de 20 golos só no tugao...ou entao nao sei como se pode sequer equiparar ao sporting nesta fase.

Gyokeres volta de lesao e faz  3 golos ao Farense.

Ok...começo achar impossivel vencer um campeonato com este mano na lagartada.

E vais repetir isso em quantos tópicos? Já percebemos, o Gyokeres marcou 3 golos ao Farense num jogo de pré-época e isso deixa-te nervoso. O que, curiosamente, acaba por ser um bom sinal, conhecendo-se o teu histórico.

[20Nico Gaitan20]

Quem decidiu ir pelo Cabral em vez deste devia ser chamado à pedra. Fico com a impressão que a época toda teria sido muito diferente. Não digo um sucesso igual ao da primeira, porque solucionávamos a saída do G.Ramos, mas não totalmente a do E.Fernández e, sobretudo, a do Grimaldo, sem falar do impacto negativo do Di María no jogo coletivo, mas...

o Cabral foi tipo desespero.

É que é totalmente o oposto do que o Alemao quer no PL.

Nao quiseram ir pelo Pavlidis ano passado que tambem estava referenciado na altura por o considerarem muito caro.

[Android1974]

Quem decidiu ir pelo Cabral em vez deste devia ser chamado à pedra. Fico com a impressão que a época toda teria sido muito diferente. Não digo um sucesso igual ao da primeira, porque solucionávamos a saída do G.Ramos, mas não totalmente a do E.Fernández e, sobretudo, a do Grimaldo, sem falar do impacto negativo do Di María no jogo coletivo, mas...

o Cabral foi tipo desespero.

É que é totalmente o oposto do que o Alemao quer no PL.

Nao quiseram ir pelo Pavlidis ano passado que tambem estava referenciado na altura por o considerarem muito caro.

Completamente. Mas até houve sinais de que o Schmidt o quis quando estava no PSV e o Cabral no Basileia, por isso não sei.

Quanto ao caro, às vezes mais vale pôr as notas (tipo Kerkez/Jurásek ou estes). Pelo menos só se põem uma vez.

[mitro11]

Só eu é que trazia o outro grego que os lagartos estão a tentar? 

Porquê? Quais as mais valias que traria ao nosso jogo ?

[MikeM16]

Espero estar enganado mas acho que estamos perante um Cabral 2. Muita festa quando chegou mas depois...
Para mim, Ioannidis é muito mais jogador.
Mas espero estar enganado.

nao é esse que é titular na seleção grega em detrimento do Pavlidis?

The National team tends to favorite players that play in the Big 4 of the Greek League, than players abroad.

Ioannidis started in the last friendly against Germany, he was injured on the 10' minute and was replaced by Pavlidis.

As I said I really hope that Ioannidis continues to evolve, as the talent is there and he plays for my team (but probably not for long).
But he had just one brilliant year. He is good creative, but in situations where a cold blooded striker decision is needed Pavlidis is better.
There are also a few minus points:
- He seems to be injury prone and less atheltic (every year for the last 3 years he loses 1-2 months due to injuries
- He shows some signs of diva (dating older than him TV personalities etc)
- Even if he signed with Sporting f.ex in the back of his head he will always want to play in the italian or English League.

By the way if you are shopping from Greece, I am curious why no one has tried to get Konstantelias  https://www.transfermarkt.pt/giannis-konstantelias/profil/spieler/628331

At 20 last year (he just turned 21 3 months ago) he had a great and full season with the Greek Champions. He is BY FAR the biggest talent of Greek Football of recent years. He is everything you wished Orkun Kökçü was when you signed him x2 at just 21 with unlimited potential.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4ZAGbmFpc8

Also do you know what the plan for the starting 11 is for the forwards ?
Is Neres healthy or will Rollheiser play right ?
Who will play Left Winger, João Mário ?
Who will be starting attacking Midfield. Rafa is gone and I heard there are issues with Orkun.

Have a nice day all !

The most probable lineup is Aursnes on the left, Di Maria on the right, Kokcu in the middle playing as a 10, and Pavlidis up front obviously.

Which we'll have to wait and see how it goes since it's very different compared to what we are running right now. He seems to have great chemistry already with Marcos Leonardo as a striker duo, and has already linked up with Neres.

Lineups aside, still early but he seems like a great fit. Very available without the ball, good technique and positioning, scores tap ins because he knows where to be. Already had a very sweet finish against Celta.

Kokçu a titular? Deve ser.
Nem o di Maria deve ser.

Bem, se o Kokcu nao é para titular, mais vale vender. Ja o Di Maria acho que pode ser uma boa arma a sair do banco, mas isso nunca acontecerá.

[Ramiro Lopes]

Espero estar enganado mas acho que estamos perante um Cabral 2. Muita festa quando chegou mas depois...
Para mim, Ioannidis é muito mais jogador.
Mas espero estar enganado.

nao é esse que é titular na seleção grega em detrimento do Pavlidis?

The National team tends to favorite players that play in the Big 4 of the Greek League, than players abroad.

Ioannidis started in the last friendly against Germany, he was injured on the 10' minute and was replaced by Pavlidis.

As I said I really hope that Ioannidis continues to evolve, as the talent is there and he plays for my team (but probably not for long).
But he had just one brilliant year. He is good creative, but in situations where a cold blooded striker decision is needed Pavlidis is better.
There are also a few minus points:
- He seems to be injury prone and less atheltic (every year for the last 3 years he loses 1-2 months due to injuries
- He shows some signs of diva (dating older than him TV personalities etc)
- Even if he signed with Sporting f.ex in the back of his head he will always want to play in the italian or English League.

By the way if you are shopping from Greece, I am curious why no one has tried to get Konstantelias  https://www.transfermarkt.pt/giannis-konstantelias/profil/spieler/628331

At 20 last year (he just turned 21 3 months ago) he had a great and full season with the Greek Champions. He is BY FAR the biggest talent of Greek Football of recent years. He is everything you wished Orkun Kökçü was when you signed him x2 at just 21 with unlimited potential.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4ZAGbmFpc8

Also do you know what the plan for the starting 11 is for the forwards ?
Is Neres healthy or will Rollheiser play right ?
Who will play Left Winger, João Mário ?
Who will be starting attacking Midfield. Rafa is gone and I heard there are issues with Orkun.

Have a nice day all !

The most probable lineup is Aursnes on the left, Di Maria on the right, Kokcu in the middle playing as a 10, and Pavlidis up front obviously.

Which we'll have to wait and see how it goes since it's very different compared to what we are running right now. He seems to have great chemistry already with Marcos Leonardo as a striker duo, and has already linked up with Neres.

Lineups aside, still early but he seems like a great fit. Very available without the ball, good technique and positioning, scores tap ins because he knows where to be. Already had a very sweet finish against Celta.

Kokçu a titular? Deve ser.
Nem o di Maria deve ser.

Alguma coisa que faça prever que o Di Maria não vai ser titular?

O Kokcu depende. Se calhar só está a colocar a dupla Pavlidis & Marcos Leonardo na frente porque o Kokcu ainda não está disponível. Até agora creio que nunca tinha jogado com 2 avançados puros. Nem o ano passado em situação de tudo ou nada como contra o Sporting para a Taça tentou essa estratégia.