Olympiacos Piraeus

[Faliro]

DO you think there is any chance of loosing the league?

Yes, around a 20% chance, Panionios are exceptional this season and we have lost our captain, our top scorer and our manager in the space of a month.

[Black Eagle]

I think Besiktas wants Fourtinis but your president doesn't want to sell him. By the way what do you think about the second leg?

[ppfinder]

Olympiacos could be the club in the world with the biggest number of champion coaches. Every year there are two.

[Frank James]

In addition, it should also be a nice country to live in. Amazing food, great beaches, women, weather...

[Black Eagle]

In addition, it should also be a nice country to live in. Amazing food, great beaches, women, weather...

In the last 28 years they won the league title 26 times. It should be boring for even Oly fans.

[Faliro]

I think Besiktas wants Fourtinis but your president doesn't want to sell him. By the way what do you think about the second leg?

Fortounis was very hot last year. On fire in fact. His form has dropped considerably since then. I think as time passes - it is more likely he will be sold. He is talented but not fast enough for the Premiership for example. I think a good offer over 10 million could get him. On the plus he likes to control the game and be the centre of everything - but he needs motivation.

Well our keeper fucked up badly in the Karaiskaki. Going into the second leg 1-0 up is a whole different game. 1-1 is harder. We are a gutted team. Sold our best players in the winter and we swap coaches like normal people change underpants. Our hope is that our more experienced players blend well with the 18/19 year olds who we play every game now. I think a lot will depend on who scores first.  I rate our odds of progressing at 38%. 

[Faliro]

In addition, it should also be a nice country to live in. Amazing food, great beaches, women, weather...

It is indeed a beautiful country. At times shockingly beautiful. I often wonder what Iberians think when they live in Athens. Most really enjoy their time there. I think the hardest thing for them is the language but nearly every Greek in Greece speaks English - and even the films on TV/ in the cinema etc are in English. Also the construction of Greek is very simple. Simple verbs etc that often decline in a very similar manner to Latin languages. Not hard to speak the basics. Food is good (if you know where to eat). Marinakis often takes the Olympiacos team and staff to Piraeus restaurants in Mikralimano - so I guess everyone learns where the best food is thanks to this. All in all - it is a nice experience for a coach. Some coaches remain highly professional - Like Valverde. Get their money - do the job and move on. Others like Michel & Santos fell in love with the place and didn't want to leave. Overall it is a very good place to be rich in Greece. Bars and restaurants with HD TVs everywhere. Beautiful climate. Flirty women (who never put out  ). Beautiful landscape and mountains/beaches. You could do a lot worse. The only draw back is the lack of professionalism in certain aspects and the poor state of Greek stadia.

[Frank James]

In addition, it should also be a nice country to live in. Amazing food, great beaches, women, weather...

It is indeed a beautiful country. At times shockingly beautiful. I often wonder what Iberians think when they live in Athens. Most really enjoy their time there. I think the hardest thing for them is the language but nearly every Greek in Greece speaks English - and even the films on TV/ in the cinema etc are in English. Also the construction of Greek is very simple. Simple verbs etc that often decline in a very similar manner to Latin languages. Not hard to speak the basics. Food is good (if you know where to eat). Marinakis often takes the Olympiacos team and staff to Piraeus restaurants in Mikralimano - so I guess everyone learns where the best food is thanks to this. All in all - it is a nice experience for a coach. Some coaches remain highly professional - Like Valverde. Get their money - do the job and move on. Others like Michel & Santos fell in love with the place and didn't want to leave. Overall it is a very good place to be rich in Greece. Bars and restaurants with HD TVs everywhere. Beautiful climate. Flirty women (who never put out  ). Beautiful landscape and mountains/beaches. You could do a lot worse. The only draw back is the lack of professionalism in certain aspects and the poor state of Greek stadia.

I think the biggest draw back is what Black Eagle mentioned above Either too easy or too difficult to win the league.

But nice description of the country. I would add it's a good balance between football quality and money. If I was a footballer I would much rather move to Greece/Cyprus than the Middle East, for instance, even for less money.

[Faliro]

In addition, it should also be a nice country to live in. Amazing food, great beaches, women, weather...

It is indeed a beautiful country. At times shockingly beautiful. I often wonder what Iberians think when they live in Athens. Most really enjoy their time there. I think the hardest thing for them is the language but nearly every Greek in Greece speaks English - and even the films on TV/ in the cinema etc are in English. Also the construction of Greek is very simple. Simple verbs etc that often decline in a very similar manner to Latin languages. Not hard to speak the basics. Food is good (if you know where to eat). Marinakis often takes the Olympiacos team and staff to Piraeus restaurants in Mikralimano - so I guess everyone learns where the best food is thanks to this. All in all - it is a nice experience for a coach. Some coaches remain highly professional - Like Valverde. Get their money - do the job and move on. Others like Michel & Santos fell in love with the place and didn't want to leave. Overall it is a very good place to be rich in Greece. Bars and restaurants with HD TVs everywhere. Beautiful climate. Flirty women (who never put out  ). Beautiful landscape and mountains/beaches. You could do a lot worse. The only draw back is the lack of professionalism in certain aspects and the poor state of Greek stadia.

I think the biggest draw back is what Black Eagle mentioned above Either too easy or too difficult to win the league.

But nice description of the country. I would add it's a good balance between football quality and money. If I was a footballer I would much rather move to Greece/Cyprus than the Middle East, for instance, even for less money.

The League is actually the easiest to win in Europe. Spend more than Olympiacos - and you win the league instantly like PAO did 2009-2010 season where they out-spent Olympiacos. Spend less.. and you will have to blame the refs or create conspiracy theories about why you lost the title. As Panathinaikos and others are constantly reminded - you can't win the league with Players like Nordin Wooter and Toché.. 

[Black Eagle]

In addition, it should also be a nice country to live in. Amazing food, great beaches, women, weather...

It is indeed a beautiful country. At times shockingly beautiful. I often wonder what Iberians think when they live in Athens. Most really enjoy their time there. I think the hardest thing for them is the language but nearly every Greek in Greece speaks English - and even the films on TV/ in the cinema etc are in English. Also the construction of Greek is very simple. Simple verbs etc that often decline in a very similar manner to Latin languages. Not hard to speak the basics. Food is good (if you know where to eat). Marinakis often takes the Olympiacos team and staff to Piraeus restaurants in Mikralimano - so I guess everyone learns where the best food is thanks to this. All in all - it is a nice experience for a coach. Some coaches remain highly professional - Like Valverde. Get their money - do the job and move on. Others like Michel & Santos fell in love with the place and didn't want to leave. Overall it is a very good place to be rich in Greece. Bars and restaurants with HD TVs everywhere. Beautiful climate. Flirty women (who never put out  ). Beautiful landscape and mountains/beaches. You could do a lot worse. The only draw back is the lack of professionalism in certain aspects and the poor state of Greek stadia.

I think the biggest draw back is what Black Eagle mentioned above Either too easy or too difficult to win the league.

But nice description of the country. I would add it's a good balance between football quality and money. If I was a footballer I would much rather move to Greece/Cyprus than the Middle East, for instance, even for less money.

The League is actually the easiest to win in Europe. Spend more than Olympiacos - and you win the league instantly like PAO did 2009-2010 season where they out-spent Olympiacos. Spend less.. and you will have to blame the refs or create conspiracy theories about why you lost the title. As Panathinaikos and others are constantly reminded - you can't win the league with Players like Nordin Wooter and Toché.. 

Actually, conspiracy theories are the part of the game. We should admit that some teams are always more equal than others like Olympiakos in Greece, Fenerbahce and Galatasaray in Turkey, Porto in Portugal. I concur with you on the idea that if you spend less your chance of being successful will be less. However, sometimes spending more is not enough, because you have to get rid of establishment that works on behalf the strongest.

Besiktas,  for example, survived bankruptcy two years ago and has been dominating the Turkish league. But it is very painful for the club because Besiktas have to fight the strong lobbies of Galatasaray and Fenerbahce including media power and Referees. So far Besiktas is doing good, but it is really not easy.

Fenerbahce was convicted of match-fixing ( with many obvious evidence) but Turkish football Federation could not relegate Fenerbahce. 

[Covenant]

First half and the game is almost done.

[Faliro]

Leali officially booked his flight back to Italy after that performance. 

Makes Roberto look like Goycochea.

After Besiktas's third goal I had a vision of an old toothless dog.. the last stand of Napoleon's Old Guard at Waterloo.. I knew more would come.. I left there and then.

We have PAO on Suday away.. 

[Godescalco]

Olympiacos defense is beyond pathetic.

Fired Bento for nothing.

[Faliro]

Olympiacos defense is beyond pathetic.

Fired Bento for nothing.

Of course it is shit. But did you not see Leali tonight? These were savable shots.

[Jorge.P_]

Yeah, that keeper is a joke. At least 3 goals are all on him, between the 2 matches.