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Citação de: Red Eyes em 03 de Novembro de 2013, 20:44
In the name of all users I wish you a good time in this forum. Please be careful with jotenko... ::)

Citação de: Faliro em 03 de Novembro de 2013, 22:47
Not yet. I predict a sell out.

Citação de: Faliro em 03 de Novembro de 2013, 23:20
I am not sure. They sill tickets right outside the stadium, I think the Olympiacos tickets will sell out fast tomorrow, so my advice is get to the stadium as fast as you can tomorrow. You can ask at the ticket office for a ticket for the Benfica/away section and they may be able to help you. Obviously bring ID and be charming.

Citação de: Churchill em 04 de Novembro de 2013, 00:27

About the game here in Portugal, it's true that our team was very lucky with the weather but you should expect a better Benfica tomorrow night.

Citação de: Churchill em 04 de Novembro de 2013, 01:14
I'm particularly surprised with Panathinaikos and their change of stadium.

Citação de: sammer em 04 de Novembro de 2013, 01:17
What do you think about Nico Gaitán?

Citação de: Person14slb em 04 de Novembro de 2013, 02:00
What player do you fear most in Benfica? Bruno Cortez or Jardel?

Citação de: Person14slb em 04 de Novembro de 2013, 02:00
What player do you fear most in Benfica? Bruno Cortez or Jardel?

Citação de: Faliro em 04 de Novembro de 2013, 00:01Personally I fear Porto far more than Benfica

Citação de: Festivus em 04 de Novembro de 2013, 04:46
What do you think was the key to Greece's success in Euro 2004? Did any of you ever expect Greece to win the Euro?

Citação de: Festivus em 04 de Novembro de 2013, 04:46
Welcome.

Do you think Olympiakos might win a European trophy in the near future?

What do you think was the key to Greece's success in Euro 2004? Did any of you ever expect Greece to win the Euro?

Citação de: Faliro em 04 de Novembro de 2013, 12:29
Can I ask what are your opinions about Fernando Santos. Personally I dont like the way he designs a team and I think he is quite corrupt.

Citação de: Faliro em 04 de Novembro de 2013, 18:49
Fyssas I think retired soon afterwards - in his prime I think he was quite good, nothing spectacular, but did his job. He is now the assistant coach/ technical director to Fernando Santos for the Greek NT.

Every Greek Santos trusts seems to have a Benfica connection!

I am not aware of the other player you mention. I remember Seitaridis who was a very good right back but extremely lazy was good friends with Maniche.

Citação de: Red.Fever em 04 de Novembro de 2013, 19:05
I liked Karagounis and Fyssas when they were on Benfica
and share the same opinion about Fyssas

Katsouranis I liked him in the first year
he seemed a good player and a hard worker
but then it went downhill, it seemed like he just wanted to leave Benfica or something... became lazy and started playing shit D:

Citação de: Red.Fever em 04 de Novembro de 2013, 19:05
I liked Karagounis and Fyssas when they were on Benfica
and share the same opinion about Fyssas

Katsouranis I liked him in the first year
he seemed a good player and a hard worker
but then it went downhill, it seemed like he just wanted to leave Benfica or something... became lazy and started playing shit D:

Citação de: Faliro em 04 de Novembro de 2013, 01:27

Citação de: Churchill em 04 de Novembro de 2013, 01:14
I'm particularly surprised with Panathinaikos and their change of stadium.

Actually, the situation with Panathinaikos was so funny - not for them - obviously they were horrified.. but for everyone else, it has been very entertaining. A couple of seasons ago they got a rich backer called Pateras. He spent a lot of their money, they had Cisse and other players.., they finally won the league. Then he left due to fights in the boardroom and another idiot took over. The club sold all its players and became very weak. They were playing at the national stadium - OAKA last season (their dream of a new independent stadium at Votanikos died) where they have played for years - this is a very big stadium, over 70,000 seats. However they could not afford the electricity bill and the lights were shut off.. So they complained, but of course no one listened - you don't pay, no lights.. So they had to play their games at the stadium during the day!!!  :smokin:

Then their new  'leader' (their club is owned by their fans like Barcelona) decided to take them back to their historical ground at leoforos.. he spent a tiny bit of money to make the stadium usable and that is their home now. They are a dying club.

Also it seems the picture of Portugal with two dominating teams is quite similar to Greece. That is why it is vital in my opinion AEK return, they have a huge following. I don't care so much about Panathinaikos - watching them suffer is very satisfying. They spend their existence complaining about referees and creating conspiracy theories about why they are shit.

Citação de: Faliro em 04 de Novembro de 2013, 12:29
Can I ask what are your opinions about Fernando Santos. Personally I dont like the way he designs a team and I think he is quite corrupt.

Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 02:49
This again sounds very similar. Can you believe when i was a kid basketball was the biggest sport in Greece? It only changed at the end of the 90's.

After the Greek national team won Euro basket in 87 I think it was, the Greek government was extremely clever (the only time in history). They forced every school in Greece to build a basketball court. That helped cement the sport in the minds of Greeks.

Greece for some strange reason also loves volleyball and waterpolo like crazy.

I have to say, I admire your stadiums hugely you built for Euro 2004.

I think in general Euro 2004 made many portuguese realise how similar Greece is to their own country in many ways. We had a military Junta like you etc, similar size country and population, old culture... and we overachieve for our size.

I think you should have gone to the game tomorrow!! I think it would have been a great experience for you!!

Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 04:12
Nikolaos Gaitanas

Citação de: Rodri_19 em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 04:19

Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 04:12
Nikolaos Gaitanas

Who do you think it's our best player?

Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 04:33

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Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 04:12
Nikolaos Gaitanas

Who do you think it's our best player?

I don't really believe any are very good this season. I think Cardozo can be dangerous to us.

Citação de: Fever em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 04:16

Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 02:49
This again sounds very similar. Can you believe when i was a kid basketball was the biggest sport in Greece? It only changed at the end of the 90's.

After the Greek national team won Euro basket in 87 I think it was, the Greek government was extremely clever (the only time in history). They forced every school in Greece to build a basketball court. That helped cement the sport in the minds of Greeks.

Greece for some strange reason also loves volleyball and waterpolo like crazy.

I have to say, I admire your stadiums hugely you built for Euro 2004.

I think in general Euro 2004 made many portuguese realise how similar Greece is to their own country in many ways. We had a military Junta like you etc, similar size country and population, old culture... and we overachieve for our size.

I think you should have gone to the game tomorrow!! I think it would have been a great experience for you!!

I knew it was quite popular with the masses, especially young people, but not that popular.
I admire greek basketball a lot, for me it always represented the essence of what european basketball is, or should aspire to be. The pragmatism, intelligence and fundamentals Greek NT always shows makes me picture kids on the streets doing pick and rolls and playing proper 5 vs 5 tactical basketball instead of street basket.  :rir:

The traditionally most loved team sport besides football in Portugal is weirder than Water Polo, it's Roller Hockey. Benfica is actually european champion.  :) In the end of the 90s Portugal grew stronger in basketball and handball.
But what proves that nowadays it's all about football is that the second biggest sport in the country right now is... Futsal.

Euro 2004 stadiums are generally good and improved our League's image a lot, but's... that pretty much it. In typical southern european fashion, they were over our possibilites. And though they look good, our league is still shit, corrupt and hugely uncompetitive.
We built 30k people stadiums for clubs that average 2k. And some of them are now vacant. But I guess you know what I'm talking about considering you hosted Athens 2004...

Thanks. I hope one day I do :)

Citação de: tjbc em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 04:36

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Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 04:12
Nikolaos Gaitanas

Who do you think it's our best player?

I don't really believe any are very good this season. I think Cardozo can be dangerous to us.

Markovic. He wil surprise you tomorrow.

Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 04:41

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Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 04:33

Citação de: Rodri_19 em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 04:19

Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 04:12
Nikolaos Gaitanas

Who do you think it's our best player?

I don't really believe any are very good this season. I think Cardozo can be dangerous to us.

Markovic. He wil surprise you tomorrow.

LOL, I hope not!!! I hope he plays like last time in the swimming pool!

Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 04:47
ahh I am confusing him with another slav you had then. His name also ended in 'ic' - I thought he was a very weak player.

Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 04:41
Roller hockey??  ;D ;D ;D that made me laugh! Futsal is popular in spain too, but not soo much in Greece.

And yes I agree about the basketball. Greeks play an extremely tactical game. Spanoulis is everything good and everything bad about our basketball. Natural ability yet impatient and egotistic. We have many good players but at the moment a very stupid Italian coach.

What helps is Greeks are actually naturally quite big athletes so many are made to play basketball. When I went to Italy I was amazed how short most people are. It is not uncommon to see Greeks the size of Printezis sometimes in Athens.

Also yes, many of the Athens Olympic venues were neglected badly.. was ridiculous..

Citação de: Fever em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 05:01

Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 04:41
Roller hockey??  ;D ;D ;D that made me laugh! Futsal is popular in spain too, but not soo much in Greece.

And yes I agree about the basketball. Greeks play an extremely tactical game. Spanoulis is everything good and everything bad about our basketball. Natural ability yet impatient and egotistic. We have many good players but at the moment a very stupid Italian coach.

What helps is Greeks are actually naturally quite big athletes so many are made to play basketball. When I went to Italy I was amazed how short most people are. It is not uncommon to see Greeks the size of Printezis sometimes in Athens.

Also yes, many of the Athens Olympic venues were neglected badly.. was ridiculous..

Not a joke.  ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bpu5iEhkG1Q
It's really big in Catalunya too. Barcelona is the most sucessful club in the world.

I haven't followed very closely international basketball recently but yes, you've been away from the decisions too much.

I think the struggling serb Faliro is talking about was Djuricic.

Edit: Ok, Matic also been shit this season.

Tomorrow can be a turning point from Benfica this season. But most probably it will be a very boring game that will end in 1-0 or 2-0 to Olympiacos. We always struggle in those atmospheres. We lost away to a very weak Fenerbahçe when we were on top form last year so...

Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 00:22
hahahahahaha ^^^

Dangerous game to put money on and I would not risk it because I know Benfica are capable of causing problems. I honestly do not know who will win. My instinct tells me a draw is possible but I also believe either team is capable of damaging the other. I am not trying to be neutral, I am simply being honest. I have watched a lot of football in my life and the outcome of this game is not easy to predict, too many variables.

Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 08:35
Simply, because Olympiacos fans expected more. When they didn't get it, they made sure Marinakis got rid of him. They have done this to many managers.

Why did Olympiacos fans expect more? Very simple. Olympiacos fans are not stupid. They know they have the most expensive squad in Greece - by far. They also know they have the best stadium and best training facilities and even the most fans. Winning the league is expected even if a monkey was in charge.  What they demand however as supporters is sexy football. They want goals and entertainment. They don't want us playing conservatively and scraping a 1-0 over Levadiakos for example. When this happens they destroy the manager in the stadium by booing all game and usually quite soon he either quits or Marinakis removes him. The same happened to Ketsbaia in 2009.

How come you in serres?

Citação de: Fever em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 05:01

Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 04:41
Roller hockey??  ;D ;D ;D that made me laugh! Futsal is popular in spain too, but not soo much in Greece.

And yes I agree about the basketball. Greeks play an extremely tactical game. Spanoulis is everything good and everything bad about our basketball. Natural ability yet impatient and egotistic. We have many good players but at the moment a very stupid Italian coach.

What helps is Greeks are actually naturally quite big athletes so many are made to play basketball. When I went to Italy I was amazed how short most people are. It is not uncommon to see Greeks the size of Printezis sometimes in Athens.

Also yes, many of the Athens Olympic venues were neglected badly.. was ridiculous..

Not a joke.  ;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bpu5iEhkG1Q
It's really big in Catalunya too. Barcelona is the most sucessful club in the world.

I haven't followed very closely international basketball recently but yes, you've been away from the decisions too much.

I think the struggling serb Faliro is talking about was Djuricic.

Edit: Ok, Matic also been shit this season.

Tomorrow can be a turning point from Benfica this season. But most probably it will be a very boring game that will end in 1-0 or 2-0 to Olympiacos. We always struggle in those atmospheres. We lost away to a very weak Fenerbahçe when we were on top form last year so...

Citação de: Andris em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 14:57
Faliro, this is a little bit off-topic, but what is your opinion about the greek crisis?

Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 15:19

Citação de: Andris em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 14:57
Faliro, this is a little bit off-topic, but what is your opinion about the greek crisis?

However I am sure you will meet many Greeks who will say Greece is a fascist state..and the zionists planned the whole crisis bla bla bla...

Citação de: HenriqueSLB em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 18:58
Are the greek football fans aware of Futebol Clube do Porto corruption cases?

Citação de: Faliro em 06 de Novembro de 2013, 00:04
Thanks guys.

We definitely scraped through. We had no answers today. Hopefully your team can build on this performance. I think you can do some damage in the europa.

For me today you were only missing a good striker.

Citação de: Faliro em 06 de Novembro de 2013, 00:54
Was our worst game in quite a while. I can't remember the last time Olympiacos did not have possession for that long. That is due to the quality of your players today and their fitness. Very very few teams have that kind of possession at the karaiskaki which tells me your team is on the verge of being powerful again.

Citação de: Faliro em 06 de Novembro de 2013, 00:04For me today you were only missing a good striker.

Citação de: 20Nico Gaitan20 em 03 de Novembro de 2013, 20:28
Hello

I hope Roberto plays, its a exelent GK :angel:

Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 08:35
Simply, because Olympiacos fans expected more. When they didn't get it, they made sure Marinakis got rid of him. They have done this to many managers.

Why did Olympiacos fans expect more? Very simple. Olympiacos fans are not stupid. They know they have the most expensive squad in Greece - by far. They also know they have the best stadium and best training facilities and even the most fans. Winning the league is expected even if a monkey was in charge.  What they demand however as supporters is sexy football. They want goals and entertainment. They don't want us playing conservatively and scraping a 1-0 over Levadiakos for example. When this happens they destroy the manager in the stadium by booing all game and usually quite soon he either quits or Marinakis removes him. The same happened to Ketsbaia in 2009.

How come you in serres?

Citação de: Shoky em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 03:44

Citação de: Faliro em 04 de Novembro de 2013, 01:27

Citação de: Churchill em 04 de Novembro de 2013, 01:14
I'm particularly surprised with Panathinaikos and their change of stadium.

Actually, the situation with Panathinaikos was so funny - not for them - obviously they were horrified.. but for everyone else, it has been very entertaining. A couple of seasons ago they got a rich backer called Pateras. He spent a lot of their money, they had Cisse and other players.., they finally won the league. Then he left due to fights in the boardroom and another idiot took over. The club sold all its players and became very weak. They were playing at the national stadium - OAKA last season (their dream of a new independent stadium at Votanikos died) where they have played for years - this is a very big stadium, over 70,000 seats. However they could not afford the electricity bill and the lights were shut off.. So they complained, but of course no one listened - you don't pay, no lights.. So they had to play their games at the stadium during the day!!!  :smokin:

Then their new  'leader' (their club is owned by their fans like Barcelona) decided to take them back to their historical ground at leoforos.. he spent a tiny bit of money to make the stadium usable and that is their home now. They are a dying club.

Also it seems the picture of Portugal with two dominating teams is quite similar to Greece. That is why it is vital in my opinion AEK return, they have a huge following. I don't care so much about Panathinaikos - watching them suffer is very satisfying. They spend their existence complaining about referees and creating conspiracy theories about why they are shit.

Que parecenças loucas com o foculporto no último parágrafo.
A mim não me surpreende nadinha. O Olympiacos sempre teve a fama.

Citação de: Andris em 05 de Novembro de 2013, 14:30
I think you'll win, unfortunately. I have no expectations for today so I can't imagine a victory for us. :(

Citação de: Velazquez em 06 de Novembro de 2013, 14:00
Faliro what do you think about Miguel Vitor?

Citação de: Faliro em 06 de Novembro de 2013, 16:28

Citação de: Velazquez em 06 de Novembro de 2013, 14:00
Faliro what do you think about Miguel Vitor?

I think he is a very useful player. He likes to score - like Manolas - from set pieces and he is a competent defender and brings a positive attitude. PAOK just need another one of him, because katsouranis has been lame as his CB partner. Is you meet PAOK, you should have no problem creating some goals.

Citação de: Festivus em 06 de Novembro de 2013, 23:43
Não percebo porque mandam vir neste tópico. O utilizador que abriu este tópico foi bastante simpático e respeitoso para connosco.

Enfim...

Citação de: JPSilva em 06 de Novembro de 2013, 23:47
Este tópico comparado com aquele paleio do Geordie o ano passado até não esta nada mau.

Citação de: Festivus em 06 de Novembro de 2013, 23:43
Não percebo porque mandam vir neste tópico. O utilizador que abriu este tópico foi bastante simpático e respeitoso para connosco.

Enfim...

Citação de: pcssousa em 06 de Novembro de 2013, 23:52

Citação de: Festivus em 06 de Novembro de 2013, 23:43
Não percebo porque mandam vir neste tópico. O utilizador que abriu este tópico foi bastante simpático e respeitoso para connosco.

Enfim...

E eu só disse a verdade. Durante anos aquilo foi um escândalo pegado, roubalheira do piorio. Se não sabes ficas a saber.
Achas que se um andrade gor simpático comigo eu deixo de dizer que eles roubam?

Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Novembro de 2013, 00:16
No - Jardim was fired because he was an unpopular coach and he was being booed everygame by Gate7, I don't think it as anything to do with marinakis's wife which was a rumour probably circulated by the green media.

There was quite a dark story that perhaps was true 6 years ago. We had a very good CB called Antzas. He removed himself from the team because it turns out the then president of Olympiakos, Kokkalis, slept with his wife. It was extremely sad.

Citação de: Fever em 07 de Novembro de 2013, 00:15
Eu acho que o Shoky e o Sousa deviam pensar duas vezes antes de vir para aqui fazer isto. Principalmente o Shoky, que já te vi indignado por outros nossos não saberem receber.

Este user tratou-nos excepcionalmente e foi sempre respeitoso, há muito espaço para as opiniões sobre o futebol grego (que eu partilho) no Futebol e Outros Desportos.

Citação de: Festivus em 07 de Novembro de 2013, 00:32

Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Novembro de 2013, 00:16
No - Jardim was fired because he was an unpopular coach and he was being booed everygame by Gate7, I don't think it as anything to do with marinakis's wife which was a rumour probably circulated by the green media.

There was quite a dark story that perhaps was true 6 years ago. We had a very good CB called Antzas. He removed himself from the team because it turns out the then president of Olympiakos, Kokkalis, slept with his wife. It was extremely sad.

I think you guys should have at least let him have finished the season. The championship was pretty much yours. I know you're used to winning and all, but sacking a manager with such a good record like that seemed kin of impatient from your management.

Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Novembro de 2013, 01:10

Citação de: Festivus em 07 de Novembro de 2013, 00:32

Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Novembro de 2013, 00:16
No - Jardim was fired because he was an unpopular coach and he was being booed everygame by Gate7, I don't think it as anything to do with marinakis's wife which was a rumour probably circulated by the green media.

There was quite a dark story that perhaps was true 6 years ago. We had a very good CB called Antzas. He removed himself from the team because it turns out the then president of Olympiakos, Kokkalis, slept with his wife. It was extremely sad.

I think you guys should have at least let him have finished the season. The championship was pretty much yours. I know you're used to winning and all, but sacking a manager with such a good record like that seemed kin of impatient from your management.

Well the problem was the fans. The fans and president share an extremely close relationship. If the football is so boring and so overly defensive, the fans boo. The next thing that happens is they stop attending games. So really the president listens to them. If Olympiakos want exciting football - he has to provide it or he loses money.

Many fans around the world can't understand that mentality. When Jardim was sacked, many fans from everywhere could not understand why he was sacked. It only perhaps would become clearer if they watched some games at the karaiskaki and saw how the fans cheer at attacking play and dislike a defensive lineup against a nothing team

Citação de: Fever em 07 de Novembro de 2013, 00:15
Eu acho que o Shoky e o Sousa deviam pensar duas vezes antes de vir para aqui fazer isto. Principalmente o Shoky, que já te vi indignado por outros nossos não saberem receber.

Este user tratou-nos excepcionalmente e foi sempre respeitoso, há muito espaço para as opiniões sobre o futebol grego (que eu partilho) no Futebol e Outros Desportos.

Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Novembro de 2013, 18:48
I agree with that. ^^

What do you think your chances are against PSG?

Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Novembro de 2013, 18:48
I agree with that. ^^

What do you think your chances are against PSG?

Citação de: Red Eyes em 07 de Novembro de 2013, 14:53
You deserved to win in Lisbon. Last game, it was us who deserved to win. But there is no justice in football so I just have to give you my congratulations.
Wish you all the best in CL.

Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Novembro de 2013, 18:48
I agree with that. ^^

What do you think your chances are against PSG?

Citação de: pcssousa em 07 de Novembro de 2013, 19:28
Oh, almost forgot: hope Olympiakos loses the next 2 matches, against the french and the belgians.
Nothing against you, but I still hope Benfica passes to the next round.

Citação de: Red.Fever em 07 de Novembro de 2013, 20:36

Citação de: Red Eyes em 07 de Novembro de 2013, 14:53
You deserved to win in Lisbon. Last game, it was us who deserved to win. But there is no justice in football so I just have to give you my congratulations.
Wish you all the best in CL.

I agree with this
you guys were better than us here, and without all that rain in the 2nd half you most likely would have won, or at least deserve to win.
this according to what we saw in the first half... you guys were doing a good game and we were playing really bad and I really doubt that our performance would improve much on the second half.

our team/players are starting to get closer and closer to their real potencial
and there we did a strong game. also your previous match was most likely pretty though and your players weren't at their best.
IMO we deserved to win that one.

but oh well
grats for the victory and if you pass the group stage with PSG, good luck ;)

Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Novembro de 2013, 18:48
I agree with that. ^^

What do you think your chances are against PSG?

small chances
PSG not only has a really strong squad, they are also playing really well.
it's going to be really though to beat them.
but if we continue to improve it's possible we can give them some problems here, and who knows, get a draw, or if luck in our side... a win  ;D

and you, what you think about your chances against them and such??

Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Novembro de 2013, 21:44

Citação de: pcssousa em 07 de Novembro de 2013, 19:28
Oh, almost forgot: hope Olympiakos loses the next 2 matches, against the french and the belgians.
Nothing against you, but I still hope Benfica passes to the next round.

If only hope could be translated to wins, you have far more fans than Olympiakos, you would probably be top of the group now just on hopes.. when your team is worth over 200 million euros more than Olympiakos, hope should not come into it. Having watched the two games and taking into account everything about both our problems I still hope if we play you again in the near future, you have the same manager, owner and players.

Citação de: pcssousa em 08 de Novembro de 2013, 01:19

Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Novembro de 2013, 21:44

Citação de: pcssousa em 07 de Novembro de 2013, 19:28
Oh, almost forgot: hope Olympiakos loses the next 2 matches, against the french and the belgians.
Nothing against you, but I still hope Benfica passes to the next round.

If only hope could be translated to wins, you have far more fans than Olympiakos, you would probably be top of the group now just on hopes.. when your team is worth over 200 million euros more than Olympiakos, hope should not come into it. Having watched the two games and taking into account everything about both our problems I still hope if we play you again in the near future, you have the same manager, owner and players.

And I sinceraly hope that if we meet you again somewhere in the future we can beat you... Hard.

Cheers.

Citação de: Faliro em 08 de Novembro de 2013, 02:57
What I would like is a game between us, with out us having to have played PAO two days before, without thunderstorms - without injuries, - just to see.

Remember, it is not just a game, it is an experiment this group. This is why we love football.


PSG: €361 million
Benfica: €230.8 million
Anderlecht: €72.5 million
Olympiakos: €67 million

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/paris-saint-germain/startseite/verein_583.html
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/sl-benfica/startseite/verein_294.html
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/rsc-anderlecht/startseite/verein_58.html
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/olympiacos-piraeus/startseite/verein_683.html

Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Novembro de 2013, 21:47

Citação de: Red.Fever em 07 de Novembro de 2013, 20:36

Citação de: Red Eyes em 07 de Novembro de 2013, 14:53
You deserved to win in Lisbon. Last game, it was us who deserved to win. But there is no justice in football so I just have to give you my congratulations.
Wish you all the best in CL.

I agree with this
you guys were better than us here, and without all that rain in the 2nd half you most likely would have won, or at least deserve to win.
this according to what we saw in the first half... you guys were doing a good game and we were playing really bad and I really doubt that our performance would improve much on the second half.

our team/players are starting to get closer and closer to their real potencial
and there we did a strong game. also your previous match was most likely pretty though and your players weren't at their best.
IMO we deserved to win that one.

but oh well
grats for the victory and if you pass the group stage with PSG, good luck ;)

Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Novembro de 2013, 18:48
I agree with that. ^^

What do you think your chances are against PSG?

small chances
PSG not only has a really strong squad, they are also playing really well.
it's going to be really though to beat them.
but if we continue to improve it's possible we can give them some problems here, and who knows, get a draw, or if luck in our side... a win  ;D

and you, what you think about your chances against them and such??

I think our chances of getting something from the game are 45%. We will be better rested and with all our big domestic fixtures finished.  Weiss should also be back then. Also we play well away from home this season and Anderlecht seemed to do quite well in Paris..

Nothing is over yet. We have to beat Anderlecht at home... I would like to watch your game with PSG simply because I am curious. Group is still open and everyone still wants wins.

Citação de: Faliro em 08 de Novembro de 2013, 02:57
What I would like is a game between us, with out us having to have played PAO two days before, without thunderstorms - without injuries, - just to see.

Remember, it is not just a game, it is an experiment this group. This is why we love football.


PSG: €361 million
Benfica: €230.8 million
Anderlecht: €72.5 million
Olympiakos: €67 million

http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/paris-saint-germain/startseite/verein_583.html
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/sl-benfica/startseite/verein_294.html
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/rsc-anderlecht/startseite/verein_58.html
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/olympiacos-piraeus/startseite/verein_683.html

Citação de: Faliro em 08 de Novembro de 2013, 16:49
Thanks, for the league - I am not worried. If we work hard, it should ours.

I hope you also start to change and start dominating portugal again - with your history this must happen. Every portuguese friend i have had has been a big benfica supporter - in fact, i have never met a porto supporter in my life. For fans alone - I hope you start removing Porto from top spot.

Citação de: Faliro em 08 de Novembro de 2013, 15:47
In case anyone cares, AEK announced its new stadium on Wednesday. Most the funding is in place and works start at the end of the year. Their old stadium was knocked down in s scandalous fashion a decade ago and they have been homeless for a long time. The new stadium will be built on the land of the old stadium and will be roughly 33,000 seats.. The stadium will honour their foundation and history. This team was founded by the Greeks who were removed from Istanbul in the great war - the club that they brought to Athens and called AEK in 1924 is essentially Pera Club of Istanbul (no translation, but a good  video the actual new stadium is from 9 minutes) Here is their new stadium:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U59P-7wbVxI

Citação de: Faliro em 08 de Novembro de 2013, 17:44
Thanks - but for our national team - i have 0 hopes with Santolas in charge. Even if we get to Brazil, we will be taken apart like Germany did to us in 2012. It will be interesting to see portugal there for political reasons, I think you should beat sweden.

Citação de: Fever em 08 de Novembro de 2013, 18:06

Citação de: Faliro em 08 de Novembro de 2013, 15:47
In case anyone cares, AEK announced its new stadium on Wednesday. Most the funding is in place and works start at the end of the year. Their old stadium was knocked down in s scandalous fashion a decade ago and they have been homeless for a long time. The new stadium will be built on the land of the old stadium and will be roughly 33,000 seats.. The stadium will honour their foundation and history. This team was founded by the Greeks who were removed from Istanbul in the great war - the club that they brought to Athens and called AEK in 1924 is essentially Pera Club of Istanbul (no translation, but a good  video the actual new stadium is from 9 minutes) Here is their new stadium:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U59P-7wbVxI

Thanks.

I'm not sure I like it but I'm pleased that they went for a classic look in that exterior, nowadays all new stadiums look pretty much the same.

If AEK directors are competent they should be back to european football in a few years.

Citação de: pcssousa em 08 de Novembro de 2013, 23:49
I have a confession to make, one of my sports heroes is a Greek. His name is Nikolaos Georgalis better known as Nikos Galis.

Citação de: josantiago em 04 de Novembro de 2013, 17:02
Fernando Santos has a reputation here to be a "Loser", where he can make his team play well, but at the end of the competitions, the team lacks in surpass the pressure existed in that stage of the competition they're inserted and loose the competitions they are involved.

I'm not sure if he's corrupted, but he lacks of "backbone" and maybe be a bit influenced to use determined players.

It's funny you say about Karagounis and Katsouranis, since they are players that Fernando Santos coached in his year and 4 month stint here  ;D

Citação de: Faliro em 10 de Novembro de 2013, 21:53
We destroyed PAOK 4-0.

BTW, I forgot to ask, what you guys think of Paulo Machado?

Citação de: Faliro em 10 de Novembro de 2013, 21:53
We destroyed PAOK 4-0.

BTW, I forgot to ask, what you guys think of Paulo Machado?

Citação de: Faliro em 27 de Novembro de 2013, 23:18
Common guys, we both know.. it is not over until it is over.

Citação de: Faliro em 27 de Novembro de 2013, 23:18
Common guys, we both know.. it is not over until it is over.

Citação de: mWo em 28 de Novembro de 2013, 02:04

Citação de: Faliro em 27 de Novembro de 2013, 23:18
Common guys, we both know.. it is not over until it is over.

Faliro, it's over. You guys win for sure against Anderlecht. Congratulations for this historic moment for Olympiacos.

Citação de: pcssousa em 28 de Novembro de 2013, 12:15

Citação de: mWo em 28 de Novembro de 2013, 02:04

Citação de: Faliro em 27 de Novembro de 2013, 23:18
Common guys, we both know.. it is not over until it is over.

Faliro, it's over. You guys win for sure against Anderlecht. Congratulations for this historic moment for Olympiacos.

We have a tiny chance, I would say 1%, not more... A game at home, against Anderlechet, a real poor side, sure you'll win.

Oh, well... now it's all about Europa League. Hope win can win it this year but not very confident about it, let's wait and see, life is always full of surprises.

Citação de: Jotenko em 28 de Novembro de 2013, 12:30

Citação de: pcssousa em 28 de Novembro de 2013, 12:15

Citação de: mWo em 28 de Novembro de 2013, 02:04

Citação de: Faliro em 27 de Novembro de 2013, 23:18
Common guys, we both know.. it is not over until it is over.

Faliro, it's over. You guys win for sure against Anderlecht. Congratulations for this historic moment for Olympiacos.

We have a tiny chance, I would say 1%, not more... A game at home, against Anderlechet, a real poor side, sure you'll win.

Oh, well... now it's all about Europa League. Hope we can win it this year but not very confident about it, let's wait and see, life is always full of surprises.

* Jorge Jesus, Ivanovic and Luisão like this *

Citação de: Fever em 10 de Dezembro de 2013, 22:58
What a weird match.
From what I saw, the referee was right in almost every decision though. Just terrible defensive play by Anderlecht.

It's good to see Saviola so happy and being important in one your most memorable european nights, he deserves it.

Congratulations and good luck :)

Citação de: Shoky em 11 de Dezembro de 2013, 02:15
Congrats.
Good luck for the rest of the Champions League.

Citação de: HJDK em 11 de Dezembro de 2013, 02:19
Vou-me rir da sova que vão levar.

Citação de: Nick Valensi em 11 de Dezembro de 2013, 02:18

Citação de: Shoky em 11 de Dezembro de 2013, 02:15
Congrats.
Good luck for the rest of the Champions League.

os gajos vão já de caralho nos oitavos... "good luck" :rir:

Citação de: Shoky em 11 de Dezembro de 2013, 02:42

Citação de: HJDK em 11 de Dezembro de 2013, 02:19
Vou-me rir da sova que vão levar.

E que só nos vai desprestigiar ainda mais.

Citação de: Faliro em 11 de Dezembro de 2013, 00:52
Extremely average player imo. Hugely injury prone and didnt show anything in Greece. He almost started to put one or two games together, but got injured so that was that. Was a bit surprised you took him to be honest.

Citação de: Faliro em 28 de Janeiro de 2014, 17:34
Man U are favorites now,

Weiss sold 2 days ago.
Mitroglou sold today for €14 million.

Citação de: Faliro em 28 de Janeiro de 2014, 17:40
And some how the most talented player, Manolas survives the transfer window.

Citação de: Faliro em 28 de Janeiro de 2014, 17:34
Man U are favorites now,

Weiss sold 2 days ago.
Mitroglou sold today for €14 million.

Citação de: Gottschalk em 11 de Fevereiro de 2014, 01:53
Olympiakos has a great chance this year of repeating the UCL quarter finals of 1998. This is probably the weakest Man Utd of the last 20 years.

And what does Marinakis do in such a scenario? He sells Mitroglou and Weiss. What a moron.

Citação de: Person14slb em 28 de Janeiro de 2014, 21:20
You would have been eliminated even if you had Mitroglou and Weiss.
:2funny:

Citação de: Faliro em 26 de Fevereiro de 2014, 00:20

Citação de: Person14slb em 28 de Janeiro de 2014, 21:20
You would have been eliminated even if you had Mitroglou and Weiss.
:2funny:

:bow2:

Citação de: Faliro em 09 de Março de 2014, 22:20
I thought you would notice this game.. ;D

Citação de: Faliro em 10 de Março de 2014, 11:51
Next time you go to Greece you should watch a game at the Karaiskaki.

Citação de: Faliro em 12 de Março de 2014, 10:53
He has been excellent here. His worst game this season was Benfica away.

We ended up purchasing him with the money from mitroglou.

Citação de: Faliro em 18 de Dezembro de 2013, 16:39
Yes, Greece defeated the Italians who tried to invade, so then the nazis came in and the greeks lost and surrendered. 100,000s died in the occupation, over 300,000 died  alone of starvation.. was a very sad time for Greece. The friends of the Nazis were the Croatians, Bulgarians and Italians. The Greeks fought very hard and lost much. In many ways the country never fully recovered.

Citação de: Darkboy em 16 de Março de 2014, 15:14
Man. Utd couldn't play football to save their lives.

Citação de: Darkboy em 19 de Março de 2014, 20:59
3-0. Roberto didn't look good on that one.

Citação de: Faliro em 20 de Março de 2014, 00:13

Citação de: Darkboy em 19 de Março de 2014, 20:59
3-0. Roberto didn't look good on that one.

Seems he was unsighted.

Well we needed a bit of luck and it wasnt to be. Amazed how far we went and we played the last game missing so many players who began the campaign...

Maygeri
Roberto
Manolas
Siovas Injured
Saviola Injured
Weiss Sold.
Mitroglou Sold.
Bong
Fuster
Olaitan Injured (heart attack)
Yatabe Loaned out.
Ibagaza Injured.
Samaris
Machado
Holebas
Salino
Ndinga
Campbell
Scepovic Injured.
Dominguez
Maniatis

Citação de: Dandy em 20 de Março de 2014, 02:13

Citação de: Faliro em 20 de Março de 2014, 00:13

Citação de: Darkboy em 19 de Março de 2014, 20:59
3-0. Roberto didn't look good on that one.

Seems he was unsighted.

Well we needed a bit of luck and it wasnt to be. Amazed how far we went and we played the last game missing so many players who began the campaign...

Maygeri
Roberto
Manolas
Siovas Injured
Saviola Injured
Weiss Sold.
Mitroglou Sold.
Bong
Fuster
Olaitan Injured (heart attack)
Yatabe Loaned out.
Ibagaza Injured.
Samaris
Machado
Holebas
Salino
Ndinga
Campbell
Scepovic Injured.
Dominguez
Maniatis

   How is Olaitan doing?

Citação de: Gottschalk em 25 de Março de 2014, 08:56
Here's a group of gavroi in Lisbon, I think:

(https://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10150553_638598862877069_2136575635_n.png)

Citação de: Gottschalk em 25 de Março de 2014, 08:54
Who's this guy, Faliro?

Stavros Daifas? A former president?

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/10151167_742246462472687_683901140_n.jpg)

Citação de: Gottschalk em 25 de Março de 2014, 08:56
Here's a group of gavroi in Lisbon, I think:

(https://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10150553_638598862877069_2136575635_n.png)

Citação de: Faliro em 25 de Março de 2014, 17:48

Citação de: Gottschalk em 25 de Março de 2014, 08:54
Who's this guy, Faliro?

Stavros Daifas? A former president?

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/10151167_742246462472687_683901140_n.jpg)

Yip former president/ No idea how important he was before my time!  :confused:

Citação de: Faliro em 26 de Março de 2014, 15:10
hahahaha... I am not that big an Olympiakos fan!!

Citação de: Faliro em 26 de Março de 2014, 21:58
I have a mistress....

I am Part Greek, part Catalan..

I support Barcelona and Olymiakos equally.

Have been to games for both of them - home and away..  :smitten:

Citação de: Gottschalk em 29 de Março de 2014, 23:32
And do you speak Catalan?

Citação de: Festivus em 30 de Março de 2014, 15:26
Have Olympiakos ever faced us in basketball?

Citação de: Gottschalk em 30 de Março de 2014, 12:14
Basketball champions 1978:

(https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/10152037_641200095950279_1201481299_n.png)

Diakoulas, Kastrinakis, Barlas, Giatzoglou and Sismanidis.

Citação de: Faliro em 30 de Março de 2014, 22:19

Citação de: Festivus em 30 de Março de 2014, 15:26
Have Olympiakos ever faced us in basketball?

:confused: Good question. I am not sure. Olympiakos is far far better at basketball than football and they are quite famous in this sport. I am not sure how big Benfica basketball club is?

Citação de: Fever em 30 de Março de 2014, 22:58

Citação de: Faliro em 30 de Março de 2014, 22:19

Citação de: Festivus em 30 de Março de 2014, 15:26
Have Olympiakos ever faced us in basketball?

:confused: Good question. I am not sure. Olympiakos is far far better at basketball than football and they are quite famous in this sport. I am not sure how big Benfica basketball club is?

We were big in the 90s. Not greek level of course, but we were a good european side who could defeat anyone in a good night.

We faced and defeated PAO but I don't think we ever met Olympiacos.

Citação de: pcssousa em 30 de Março de 2014, 23:53

Citação de: Fever em 30 de Março de 2014, 22:58

Citação de: Faliro em 30 de Março de 2014, 22:19

Citação de: Festivus em 30 de Março de 2014, 15:26
Have Olympiakos ever faced us in basketball?

:confused: Good question. I am not sure. Olympiakos is far far better at basketball than football and they are quite famous in this sport. I am not sure how big Benfica basketball club is?

We were big in the 90s. Not greek level of course, but we were a good european side who could defeat anyone in a good night.

We faced and defeated PAO but I don't think we ever met Olympiacos.

We have beaten the crap out of Panathinaikos of Dominic Wilkins in the 90's. That's for sure.

Citação de: pcssousa em 01 de Abril de 2014, 17:36
My all time favorite basketball player is Carlos Lisboa, by far the best Portuguese ever. He and Sérgio Ramos were the only Portuguese with a good international level. Talking about men, of course, cause my cousin Ticha is one of the greatest in WNBA history.

Internationally, Νίκος Γκάλης was always my favorite. What a player, what a European Championship he made in 87... And the way he trashed Michael Jordan's North Carolina was unbelievable.

Citação de: Festivus em 30 de Março de 2014, 15:26
Have Olympiakos ever faced us in basketball?

Citação de: Faliro em 01 de Abril de 2014, 22:45

Citação de: pcssousa em 01 de Abril de 2014, 17:36
My all time favorite basketball player is Carlos Lisboa, by far the best Portuguese ever. He and Sérgio Ramos were the only Portuguese with a good international level. Talking about men, of course, cause my cousin Ticha is one of the greatest in WNBA history.

Internationally, Νίκος Γκάλης was always my favorite. What a player, what a European Championship he made in 87... And the way he trashed Michael Jordan's North Carolina was unbelievable.

What happened to your basketball in portugal? No interest?

Citação de: Faliro em 04 de Abril de 2014, 01:53I am surprised Benfica is not a major name in basketball anymore, your support is so huge.

Citação de: Aka em 04 de Abril de 2014, 03:38

Citação de: Faliro em 04 de Abril de 2014, 01:53I am surprised Benfica is not a major name in basketball anymore, your support is so huge.

We were never a powerhouse in an European level, but we're once again the top team in Portugal. We dominate it so much that Porto had to quit out of shame.

Citação de: Gottschalk em 04 de Abril de 2014, 20:47
When Yaya was still at Piraeus

Citação de: Festivus em 10 de Abril de 2014, 05:53
Faliro, would you trade Greece's Euro championship for an Olympiacos' Europa League/Champions League win?  :smokin:

Citação de: Festivus em 10 de Abril de 2014, 05:53
Faliro, would you trade Greece's Euro championship for an Olympiacos' Europa League/Champions League win?  :smokin:

Citação de: HJDK em 15 de Abril de 2014, 13:24
Aqui não.... :tomates:

Citação de: Festivus em 15 de Abril de 2014, 13:23
That's the 16th championship in 18 years...

Don't people get bored with football there?  :tomates:

Citação de: Festivus em 15 de Abril de 2014, 13:32

Citação de: HJDK em 15 de Abril de 2014, 13:24
Aqui não.... :tomates:

No team has won the league 7 seasons in a row here, though.

Citação de: Gottschalk em 15 de Abril de 2014, 22:01

Citação de: Festivus em 15 de Abril de 2014, 13:32

Citação de: HJDK em 15 de Abril de 2014, 13:24
Aqui não.... :tomates:

No team has won the league 7 seasons in a row here, though.

The record is still with Celtic and Rangers who have won 9 in a row each.

Citação de: Festivus em 15 de Abril de 2014, 13:23
That's the 16th championship in 18 years...

Don't people get bored with football there?  :tomates:

Citação de: Fake Blood em 15 de Abril de 2014, 13:34

Citação de: Festivus em 15 de Abril de 2014, 13:23
That's the 16th championship in 18 years...

Don't people get bored with football there?  :tomates:

Bored... They have like 11 daily newspapers about football...

Citação de: Faliro em 15 de Abril de 2014, 22:57
Well firstly they have a complex about where they live. The Athenian sides mock Salonika and call PAOK fans Bulgarians and Turks - which severely annoys them. Even Aris, the other Salonika team calls PAOK 'Turkoi.' That is because PAOK is made up and founded by Greeks who were exiled from Turkey.

The best one I heard this year is how an olympiakos fan described them a month ago. He called PAOK 'Toumbaspor.' A mixture of a Turkish ending (most Turkish teams end in Spor for some reason..) on top of their stadium name - Toumba.

PAOK fans also have a complex that Athens is the capital and Salonika is the second city. Most Athenians don't give two shits about about Salonika - but everyone from up there tries to act like it is better than Athens.. cleaner etc...

There is a massive game with them tomorrow.. cup semi final second leg. We only have 2-1 lead and PAOK feel the ref shafted them and will come out with all guns blazing. Going to be a cracker..maybe on bet365 if you fancy seeing some violence.. :bandeiraslb2: :bandeiraslb2:

Citação de: Festivus em 15 de Abril de 2014, 23:02
That reminds me of the Braga vs. Guimarães rivalry. Braga fans call Guimarães fans "espanhóis" which means "spaniards", and naturally, that infuriates the latter.

It also reminds me of Benfica and Porto rivalry. Here in Lisboa, most people don't hate the city of Porto at all. But if you go to Porto, you'll find several people there(FC Porto fans, mostly) who really dislike Lisboa.

Citação de: Faliro em 15 de Abril de 2014, 23:09
hahahaha.. i love how football does that  :2funny: :2funny: When football fans start attacking rival cities in depth simply because they hate a team from up there, I laugh so much..  :2funny: Another ridiculous thing is that most of Macedonia and Thrace support PAOK regardless and when someone from up there supports another team besides everyone calls them a traitor - as if we are back in the civil war or something. PAOK fans simply can't understand why someone from their region should not support PAOK. Needless to say Olympiakos have taken a few players from up there and they are immediately brandished traitors by PAOK fans..  ::bater::

Citação de: Faliro em 15 de Abril de 2014, 23:26
Another classic I have heard with my own ears three separate times.

Whenever I meet a Real Madrid fan, I am always fascinated. I find them totally stupid, but I never say anything. I always just listen to what they have to say. Three separate Meringues said exactly this to me:

Me: Have you ever even been to Barcelona?
Madrid fan: Oh yes of course, I have been.. years ago..
Me: Did you like it?
Madrid fan: Err... We didn't stop.
Me: ?
Madrid fan: Well we were in the car,, and didn't need to stop - so we just.. drove through the city and didn't get out the car...


Each time I was like WTF??

:confused: :confused: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:

Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 00:16
Wow, impressed you caught that game!

Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 00:16
Wow, impressed you caught that game!

Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 00:42
The Benfica fans on this forum, easily the most intelligent concerning global football I have met on any forum. That is why I stayed.

Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:16
Very impressed!

In a crazy way, I will be almost more interested in the PAO vs OFI game because the slim chance OFI can go through gives me so much pleasure. OFI have a better midfield than PAO with Dudu and Makris. So I will try and watch both too.

The PAOK Oly game should be a good one.  :bandeiraslb2: :bandeiraslb2:

Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Abril de 2014, 01:02
Nope, Gate7 (OSFP), Original 21 (AEK) and Gate 13 (PAO) all go to football games, basketball games, water polo games, volley ball games - even table tennis. They will go anywhere to shout and fight for their team.

hahaha, I never said Greeks are quiet!! They are relaxed - super relaxed, but many also like trouble..and seek it out..football is a way to have some fun and break some heads for many 'professional' hooligans of which there are many in Greece...

Add to this Greeks in general fear Greek police as much as a butterfly landing on your arm in a spring meadow.. Greeks simply do what they want. They still control their country and are answerable only to themselves.

There was also plenty of violence outside the stadium. I think, Greeks invented drama and tragedy but unlike other cultures, they like to openly celebrate these two inventions at sporting events..  ;D

Citação de: PsychoFan em 17 de Abril de 2014, 01:20
But they do have a lot of power, and they are literally above the law. I do not know how it is  in Greece.

Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Abril de 2014, 01:26

Citação de: PsychoFan em 17 de Abril de 2014, 01:20
But they do have a lot of power, and they are literally above the law. I do not know how it is  in Greece.

Put simply no one respects the police in Greece, since the collapse of the Junta, no one fears them. Greeks fear getting stuck in traffic or having no frappes more than doing something illegal..

Citação de: Fever em 17 de Abril de 2014, 01:27
Our game was far from peaceful (2 managers and 2 players sent off, we played 60 min one man down) but that's whole other level.

Watch our third goal and you can guess how happy today's result, being two goals and one man down since the beggining, made us feel: http://www.tvgolo.com/match-showfull-1397671103---39

Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Abril de 2014, 01:21
Greeks simply don't like authority. Even sometimes when I order a coke in Greece, I catch the waiter give me a glance and in his eyes are written..'I am not your slave, get it yourself malaka.'  :amigo:

Also here is the best video, the highlights, all the violence, the goal, the entrance of the players, all nicely edited with the usual outraged commentary..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZCPpLvggbw#t=464

Citação de: T1n0_SLB em 17 de Abril de 2014, 17:37
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZCPpLvggbw

min 9.18

Citação de: Faliro em 18 de Abril de 2014, 10:20
Selling Weiss was tragic, but I think he wanted to go, he was having huge fights with Michel and still tweets insults at him.. Mitroglou was a sign the club doesn't care about the CL or Europe..

I don't think Olympiakos will be able to do anything until there is proper competition in Greece. We are in a unique position where there should be 4 big clubs in our small country and that would be excellent. However PAO did not have enough money to stay in the league last year and we voted to keep them in.. PAOK are rebuilding and AEK are in the second division.

Doesn't help that Aris just got relegated and Larissa is also in the second division..

Without proper domestic competition, we simply are not hardened enough to put away teams like Levante when it matters.

Citação de: Faliro em 18 de Abril de 2014, 10:20
Selling Weiss was tragic, but I think he wanted to go, he was having huge fights with Michel and still tweets insults at him.. Mitroglou was a sign the club doesn't care about the CL or Europe..

I don't think Olympiakos will be able to do anything until there is proper competition in Greece. We are in a unique position where there should be 4 big clubs in our small country and that would be excellent. However PAO did not have enough money to stay in the league last year and we voted to keep them in.. PAOK are rebuilding and AEK are in the second division.

Doesn't help that Aris just got relegated and Larissa is also in the second division..

Without proper domestic competition, we simply are not hardened enough to put away teams like Levante when it matters.

Citação de: Jotenko em 23 de Abril de 2014, 17:55

Citação de: Faliro em 18 de Abril de 2014, 10:20
Selling Weiss was tragic, but I think he wanted to go, he was having huge fights with Michel and still tweets insults at him.. Mitroglou was a sign the club doesn't care about the CL or Europe..

I don't think Olympiakos will be able to do anything until there is proper competition in Greece. We are in a unique position where there should be 4 big clubs in our small country and that would be excellent. However PAO did not have enough money to stay in the league last year and we voted to keep them in.. PAOK are rebuilding and AEK are in the second division.

Doesn't help that Aris just got relegated and Larissa is also in the second division..

Without proper domestic competition, we simply are not hardened enough to put away teams like Levante when it matters.

We can always flirt and show our private parts via Skype. PM me for more male vs male fun.

Citação de: Festivus em 25 de Abril de 2014, 21:25
An all-star game like in the American sports leagues? First time I hear of a game of that sort in Europe.

Citação de: Festivus em 25 de Abril de 2014, 21:25
An all-star game like in the American sports leagues? First time I hear of a game of that sort in Europe.

Citação de: Festivus em 25 de Abril de 2014, 21:25
An all-star game like in the American sports leagues? First time I hear of a game of that sort in Europe.

Citação de: pcssousa em 26 de Abril de 2014, 22:47

Citação de: Festivus em 25 de Abril de 2014, 21:25
An all-star game like in the American sports leagues? First time I hear of a game of that sort in Europe.

We had football all star games in Portugal a few years ago.

Citação de: Festivus em 27 de Abril de 2014, 13:54

Citação de: pcssousa em 26 de Abril de 2014, 22:47

Citação de: Festivus em 25 de Abril de 2014, 21:25
An all-star game like in the American sports leagues? First time I hear of a game of that sort in Europe.

We had football all star games in Portugal a few years ago.

We had? The closest ones I can think of are the "Figo's friends vs. Zidane's friends" kind of games.

Citação de: Gottschalk em 27 de Abril de 2014, 22:31
Legendary Nandinho!

:bow2:

Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Maio de 2014, 23:34
Just signed Sancidino Silva from you guys.

Citação de: Faliro em 06 de Maio de 2014, 01:20
We will probably make money off him either way.. just business. Unless this player shows something special, he has Ergotelis, OFI or Platanias written all over him.. we had 25 players on loan this season...because the EPO is dragging its feet on letting us create our 'B' team..

Citação de: Faliro em 06 de Maio de 2014, 10:57
^^ The old Velodrome that was demolished to make way for the Karaiskaki. In the background, you can see a famous district of Piraeus called Kastella.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/Piraeus_Mikrolimano1.JPG)

Citação de: Faliro em 06 de Maio de 2014, 19:03
I like snails but i am not sure Greeks eat so much, I am sure they do in certain regions. They eat these raw for example on the islands, they are sea urchins:

(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQtQat4CkvzFC-sAre1tNR6UCQIYw03-DsaYGKfdwwyPR5Zbs9Cmw)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/48/Sea_urchin_eggs.jpg)

Citação de: kneissl em 06 de Maio de 2014, 20:04
Mykonos :)  :cool2: :cool2:

Citação de: Red.Fever em 06 de Maio de 2014, 20:15
some people rides horses
here in Portugal we ride bananas  :smokin:

(http://www.ezkap.com/ResortGalleryImages/2732_Water-Sports.jpg)


Albufeira

(http://marina.marinaalbufeira.com/images/galeria/marina/marina7.jpg)

(http://marina.marinaalbufeira.com/images/galeria/marina/marina3.jpg)

Citação de: Vitor84 em 06 de Maio de 2014, 20:53
Fuck I miss Greece so much :cry2:

But in some point there are something that I agree, the greek cities in general are "ugly" until you get use to it. The streets don't have so much space between the buildings, are very noise and dirty. And extremely hot... And the buildings are in general ugly, always that style of 70s or 80s all white and in concrete. You can´t find so much stuff between the classic age (ruins) and the modern age.
And Athens is the big example of it. So chaotic...

But in the other point, after you get use to it you start to like. And the greeks are really nice people. The food is very good (the better thing that I can say in 7 months that I was there I didn't miss portuguese food :) ). And the sea, beaches and nature are amazing.

The worst thing there is the cost of life. Everything there is fucking expensive.

Citação de: Red Eyes em 06 de Maio de 2014, 21:31
I was in Spetsai for a couple of weeks with my wife in 1996. Just a few months after we have married. Friendly people with great food. My biggest regret is not having time to make a tour around more islands. We didn´t like Athens that much...

Citação de: Faliro em 06 de Maio de 2014, 21:38

Citação de: Vitor84 em 06 de Maio de 2014, 20:53
Fuck I miss Greece so much :cry2:

But in some point there are something that I agree, the greek cities in general are "ugly" until you get use to it. The streets don't have so much space between the buildings, are very noise and dirty. And extremely hot... And the buildings are in general ugly, always that style of 70s or 80s all white and in concrete. You can´t find so much stuff between the classic age (ruins) and the modern age.
And Athens is the big example of it. So chaotic...

But in the other point, after you get use to it you start to like. And the greeks are really nice people. The food is very good (the better thing that I can say in 7 months that I was there I didn't miss portuguese food :) ). And the sea, beaches and nature are amazing.

The worst thing there is the cost of life. Everything there is fucking expensive.

Perfect description. O0   Did you visit places like Glyfada?

Citação de: Vitor84 em 06 de Maio de 2014, 21:44

Citação de: Faliro em 06 de Maio de 2014, 21:38

Citação de: Vitor84 em 06 de Maio de 2014, 20:53
Fuck I miss Greece so much :cry2:

But in some point there are something that I agree, the greek cities in general are "ugly" until you get use to it. The streets don't have so much space between the buildings, are very noise and dirty. And extremely hot... And the buildings are in general ugly, always that style of 70s or 80s all white and in concrete. You can´t find so much stuff between the classic age (ruins) and the modern age.
And Athens is the big example of it. So chaotic...

But in the other point, after you get use to it you start to like. And the greeks are really nice people. The food is very good (the better thing that I can say in 7 months that I was there I didn't miss portuguese food :) ). And the sea, beaches and nature are amazing.

The worst thing there is the cost of life. Everything there is fucking expensive.

Perfect description. O0   Did you visit places like Glyfada?

No. I met people that were living there (they were doing also EVS I met them in seminars), but I didn't have chance to visit them. As I know is a area were live the rich people.

Citação de: Faliro em 06 de Maio de 2014, 20:19

Citação de: kneissl em 06 de Maio de 2014, 20:04
Mykonos :)  :cool2: :cool2:

I was there last year, another world...

(http://www.footootjes.nl/Panoramas_Greece_2007/Panoramas/20070829_Mykonos_streets_pano16_wc3_800x400SS_sh0.5-50_PSadj.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Houses_in_Mykonos.jpg)

(http://www.keytours.gr/uploads/images/shutterstock_82643725.jpg)

(http://www.sunsail.com/files/Destinations/Mediteranean/Greece/Athens/mykonos.jpg)

(http://www.mykonosgold.com/images/mykonos-beaches/super-paradise/super-paradise-beach-mykonos-2.jpg)

Citação de: kneissl em 06 de Maio de 2014, 22:36

Citação de: Faliro em 06 de Maio de 2014, 20:19

Citação de: kneissl em 06 de Maio de 2014, 20:04
Mykonos :)  :cool2: :cool2:

I was there last year, another world...

(http://www.footootjes.nl/Panoramas_Greece_2007/Panoramas/20070829_Mykonos_streets_pano16_wc3_800x400SS_sh0.5-50_PSadj.jpg)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Houses_in_Mykonos.jpg)

(http://www.keytours.gr/uploads/images/shutterstock_82643725.jpg)

(http://www.sunsail.com/files/Destinations/Mediteranean/Greece/Athens/mykonos.jpg)

(http://www.mykonosgold.com/images/mykonos-beaches/super-paradise/super-paradise-beach-mykonos-2.jpg)

heaven !!

Citação de: Jotenko em 08 de Maio de 2014, 15:26

Greece and Portugal breathe blue and white.

Only here we have this shameful green and red flag.

Citação de: Faliro em 10 de Maio de 2014, 21:12
I already don't like the colours of his shirt. :disgust: after what you said, I definitely don't like him..

I am also pissed off, we were trying to get Alan Poulido the last 4 weeks from Tigres and it seems to have collapsed..  :tickedoff:

Citação de: HJDK em 10 de Maio de 2014, 22:43
Capel, what a underrated player.
The way he dribbles his opponents to pass the ball to his own half is astonishing,

Citação de: Covenant em 11 de Maio de 2014, 14:24
Eleftheropoulos, what a flop.

Citação de: Faliro em 11 de Maio de 2014, 14:44
Also the mafia that allows shit players like Tziolis and Maniatis in the midfield, that is already the slowest in the World Cup is beyond a joke. Katsouranis and Karagounis are finished and hurt Greece massively.

Citação de: Faliro em 11 de Maio de 2014, 17:43
Wow, I am so impressed you had the same shit at your door. You must know the pain then.. What an earth is happening? One of the great things about Portugal is your speed?

We did the same with Luxembourg... get a 1-0 and then the coach says we played well when Luxembourg had more possession than us second half!!????

Watching Katsouranis 'walk' for 90 minutes - every game - even if he is injured is sadistic. I can't take it. Tziolis is a human lamp post - he simply can't move fast or even run. Maniatis is just a headless chicken. These are not midfielders, they are traffic cones.

The worst thing? We always do enough to qualify, before being thrashed in the main tournaments.  I truely resent Fernando Santos for how he has built our team.

Everytime a stranger watches Greece, I feel embarrassed. Seriously.

Citação de: Faliro em 11 de Maio de 2014, 18:42
He is a good keeper imo with slight Vampirism (fear of crosses).

Citação de: Faliro em 06 de Junho de 2014, 12:02
I think some Benfica official reads these forums. I was asked about Manolas. I made an educated guess of €8 million for his signature. Benfica offered that to Olympiakos. They refused.

http://www.gazzetta.gr/football/article/620979/porta-olympiakoy-se-mpenfika-gia-manola

Citação de: Faliro em 08 de Julho de 2014, 14:15
Yea, never been that keen on Greeks taking older - formerly great players..

Citação de: pcssousa em 06 de Junho de 2014, 12:58

Citação de: Faliro em 06 de Junho de 2014, 12:02
I think some Benfica official reads these forums. I was asked about Manolas. I made an educated guess of €8 million for his signature. Benfica offered that to Olympiakos. They refused.

http://www.gazzetta.gr/football/article/620979/porta-olympiakoy-se-mpenfika-gia-manola

I know many journalists read this forum.

At some time, some users made up absurd news and next day they were published in the newspapers. It's absolutely true.

Citação de: Faliro em 11 de Julho de 2014, 11:42
They are us, just mixed with mongols genetically and sunni muslim instead of Christian, takes them a bit longer... but they get there...

Citação de: Faliro em 13 de Julho de 2014, 16:41
Well turks see themselves as a seperate race. However genetically, the are Greeks/Albanians/Slavs mixed with mongols and native Anatolians. they are originally from china..we almost sent them back there in 1922 but lost the war, so it seems they are here to stay..

Citação de: Faliro em 25 de Julho de 2014, 03:05



It is an extremely good time to be a greek a fan. For years and years, Greece produced massive talent. What would happen? These players would not be allowed to play, they would rot and decline on the bench - just to get minutes from 26 years old onwards. It was always about age and ''experience''  :estrelas:, not talent.

Citação de: Faliro em 29 de Julho de 2014, 19:50
Seems Manolas is going. His agent said as much today. Valencia seem the favorite.

I am stunned Barcelona is after Agger from Liverpool for the same price as Manolas, surely Manolas is superior. :estrelas:

Olympiakos looking at Robinho.

Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Agosto de 2014, 20:15
Wait, what. Someone else has actually played European Super League? I still own a copy(PC, not PS1). But I barely played it when I was a kid. Was it any good?

Citação de: Arceus_17 em 14 de Agosto de 2014, 20:43

Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Agosto de 2014, 20:15
Wait, what. Someone else has actually played European Super League? I still own a copy(PC, not PS1). But I barely played it when I was a kid. Was it any good?

I really loved the game in those years...The graphics are, obviously, shitty and the commands are not the best, but there are several interesting competition styles you can play and, of course settings.
Benfica had the 2nd worse team with powerhouses like Rojas, Escalona, Sergio Nunes, Uribe and Toy  :D. Our only good players were good Enke, Van Hooidonk, Poborsky and (yeah) Maniche. Only IFK Gotemborg had a worse team ;D.

Citação de: Arceus_17 em 14 de Agosto de 2014, 20:09
Ah..Olympiakos!  Well, can't say I have the best memories from you..    :bah2:  :ashamed:

Not really a usual follower of Greek football but always liked Olympiakos. First of all, Olympiakos was one of the 16 teams in the mythical PS1 game European Super League. having great players like Antzas, Eleftheropoulos, Mavrogenidis, Choutos, Georgatos, Djordjevic and Giovanni.
Second of all, your main colours are red and white, while your main rivals' are green and white. Not really much of a doubt about the team to support in Greece :coolsmiley:  :slb2:  :smokin:

Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Agosto de 2014, 20:15
Wait, what. Someone else has actually played European Super League? I still own a copy(PC, not PS1). But I barely played it when I was a kid. Was it any good?

Looking at the cover, it has the following clubs: Marseille, PSG, Leverkusen, Bayern, Dortmund, Liverpool, Chelsea, Olympiakos, Inter, Ajax, Juventus, Milan, Benfica, Barcelona, Real Madrid, IFK Gottenborg

Citação de: Faliro em 18 de Agosto de 2014, 15:30
Apparently Olympiakos asking for €5 million which is nothing.

Citação de: HJDK em 18 de Agosto de 2014, 16:57

Citação de: Faliro em 18 de Agosto de 2014, 15:30
Apparently Olympiakos asking for €5 million which is nothing.

How is he? It's worth the money?
Afellay can be a king in Greece, let's wait to see. Such a great player but those knees..

Citação de: KBMASTER em 18 de Agosto de 2014, 21:32
Faliro, maybe Diamantakos will be a good surprise for you. You should wait and see  O0 From what i've read and seen of Diamantakos, he is not such a bad player. He lacks experience, but he can only achieve his potencial, if he plays. O0

Citação de: Faliro em 18 de Agosto de 2014, 21:35

Citação de: KBMASTER em 18 de Agosto de 2014, 21:32
Faliro, maybe Diamantakos will be a good surprise for you. You should wait and see  O0 From what i've read and seen of Diamantakos, he is not such a bad player. He lacks experience, but he can only achieve his potencial, if he plays. O0

Excellent post and I can't add anything. I think Diamantakos can do well with minutes. He has shown he knows how to score. Vergos looks even better, but he is very young.  I am happy about Benitez because he is also young. The culture is changing in Greece which is nice to see. Usually we get 35 year old veterans to fill in the gaps up top.

Citação de: KBMASTER em 18 de Agosto de 2014, 21:51

Citação de: Faliro em 18 de Agosto de 2014, 21:35

Citação de: KBMASTER em 18 de Agosto de 2014, 21:32
Faliro, maybe Diamantakos will be a good surprise for you. You should wait and see  O0 From what i've read and seen of Diamantakos, he is not such a bad player. He lacks experience, but he can only achieve his potencial, if he plays. O0

Excellent post and I can't add anything. I think Diamantakos can do well with minutes. He has shown he knows how to score. Vergos looks even better, but he is very young.  I am happy about Benitez because he is also young. The culture is changing in Greece which is nice to see. Usually we get 35 year old veterans to fill in the gaps up top.

I know what you mean, but don't you like Saviola? He is in the 30's, but he has that kind of flair, that class, that you don't see very often. The problem is that, there's always someone that may come in, who lacks that class.
But that's good, for Olympiacos and for Greek Football, that younger players are getting chances, only then, national squads may improve. And with that, you're going to be better in terms of sales, because of the price tag Hellas, will have higher level, and in terms of sports perfomance, you may even reach high results on short notice.

Citação de: Faliro em 18 de Agosto de 2014, 23:48

Citação de: KBMASTER em 18 de Agosto de 2014, 21:51

Citação de: Faliro em 18 de Agosto de 2014, 21:35

Citação de: KBMASTER em 18 de Agosto de 2014, 21:32
Faliro, maybe Diamantakos will be a good surprise for you. You should wait and see  O0 From what i've read and seen of Diamantakos, he is not such a bad player. He lacks experience, but he can only achieve his potencial, if he plays. O0

Excellent post and I can't add anything. I think Diamantakos can do well with minutes. He has shown he knows how to score. Vergos looks even better, but he is very young.  I am happy about Benitez because he is also young. The culture is changing in Greece which is nice to see. Usually we get 35 year old veterans to fill in the gaps up top.

I know what you mean, but don't you like Saviola? He is in the 30's, but he has that kind of flair, that class, that you don't see very often. The problem is that, there's always someone that may come in, who lacks that class.
But that's good, for Olympiacos and for Greek Football, that younger players are getting chances, only then, national squads may improve. And with that, you're going to be better in terms of sales, because of the price tag Hellas, will have higher level, and in terms of sports perfomance, you may even reach high results on short notice.

I agree with everything. I was very envious of how Portugal developed its football from Euro 2004. If Greece can learn anything - it should look towards Iberia. Olympiakos leads the charge in youth, improving sales, building relationships with other big clubs. The ability is here in Greece, but the mentality outside of Olympiakos is a little archaic/

Concerning Saviola, I never really saw him as a striker, more of a hybrid who is perhaps better just behind the front line. He has had a quiet pre-season. We have quite a few players, but if we lose Manolas, we will be extremely beatable. The league has still not allowed B teams, so our squad is boated. Lots of good players, but not many world beaters, however, the fans can sometimes elevate a player. I feel someone like Mathieu Dossevi could be a fan favorite and could be quite special. He certainly picked a good number for his back..77... The fans did this with Galletti, Castillo, Mirallas, etc.. they made the player even better with encouragement.

Citação de: Faliro em 19 de Agosto de 2014, 01:17
Seems you have the same problems with youth as we do in Greece. I dislike this culture immensely.

Botia seems shit and slow so far. Siovas is not bad, but always injured. Avraam just can't run since the injury. He was told to retire but he fought and came back but just has no speed now. The youngster Avlonitis doesn't know what planet he is on for some reason.  Manolas is our get out of jail free card. Superior player.

Kasami is an interesting one, he had quite a following at Fulham. One thing I hope he becomes is more of a team player. Seems he is very shot happy and I don't mind that, as long as the player can hit the target.

As for our two biggest attack talents (Fetfa and Ninis), both were given runs at young ages by Zico and Munoz respectively. No Greek coach would have given them minutes.

I spent a big chunk of my life trying to explain to many Greeks why playing a young star who is scoring every time he gets a chance is more important than starting a 32 year old player who is leaving at the end of the season.  ::bater::

Even more shocking is the kind of crap players the Greek media actually respect.. Fortunis, Kone, Lazaros, etc.. Such average talents..

Citação de: Faliro em 19 de Agosto de 2014, 23:11
The news coming from Greece has fluctuated. First I was reading €5 million for him.

Today, Greek sites are quoting Portuguese sources saying Olympiakos want €8 million.

http://www.redplanet.gr/podosfairo/metagrafes-podosfairo/prepei-na-plhrwsoyn.2980785.html

I think Olympiakos are playing hard with him because firstly he is a quality player and secondly, Michel likes to play him. Personally I think he is the best cm Greece has atm. He has some flaws to his game to do with concentration, but he is the closest player we have to a Busquets.

Citação de: Faliro em 20 de Agosto de 2014, 04:16
He has that style, languid. However Busquets plays a little deeper to the right. Samaris always seems to drift higher up the pitch a little to the left. In fact, he likes to get very high up the pitch at times.. perhaps he is a bit of an anarchist, because he knows if the ball is lost, he is miles out of position.

Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Agosto de 2014, 00:19
It's a good point. I have no idea what happened with that? I suppose Olympiakos winning a lot of doubles kinda killed it. Also, the game requires a lot of police, so I think the EPO would rather just build their swimming pools in their private villas than put cash into security for another derby.

What is funny is that Greece police simply watch the riots take place at games.  ::bater::

Edit: just read up on it, seems they abandoned and no one cares..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Super_Cup

Citação de: Gottschalk em 21 de Agosto de 2014, 09:18

Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Agosto de 2014, 00:19
It's a good point. I have no idea what happened with that? I suppose Olympiakos winning a lot of doubles kinda killed it. Also, the game requires a lot of police, so I think the EPO would rather just build their swimming pools in their private villas than put cash into security for another derby.

What is funny is that Greece police simply watch the riots take place at games.  ::bater::

Edit: just read up on it, seems they abandoned and no one cares..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Super_Cup

A national Super Cup is lame anyway.

It would be way more interesting to organize a Cup with the champions of Greece versus the champions of Cyprus. That'd be fun.

Even more fun would be a Greek-Turkish Cup.

Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Agosto de 2014, 13:22

Citação de: Gottschalk em 21 de Agosto de 2014, 09:18

Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Agosto de 2014, 00:19
It's a good point. I have no idea what happened with that? I suppose Olympiakos winning a lot of doubles kinda killed it. Also, the game requires a lot of police, so I think the EPO would rather just build their swimming pools in their private villas than put cash into security for another derby.

What is funny is that Greece police simply watch the riots take place at games.  ::bater::

Edit: just read up on it, seems they abandoned and no one cares..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Super_Cup

A national Super Cup is lame anyway.

It would be way more interesting to organize a Cup with the champions of Greece versus the champions of Cyprus. That'd be fun.

Even more fun would be a Greek-Turkish Cup.

Yea we used to allow the big Cyrpiot teams in our league. Was great while it lasted.

Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Agosto de 2014, 15:46
If we lose Manolas, we have big problems. It seems we are losing Samaris, but I think that wont affect us to much as Michel always liked to rotate the midfield in the CL. We will work hard and try to form a strong team to beat as many other teams as possible.

PAO are a massive rival and there is no love lost so to speak.

How come you have family in Greece? Are you part Greek?

Citação de: Festivus em 21 de Agosto de 2014, 15:58

Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Agosto de 2014, 13:22

Citação de: Gottschalk em 21 de Agosto de 2014, 09:18

Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Agosto de 2014, 00:19
It's a good point. I have no idea what happened with that? I suppose Olympiakos winning a lot of doubles kinda killed it. Also, the game requires a lot of police, so I think the EPO would rather just build their swimming pools in their private villas than put cash into security for another derby.

What is funny is that Greece police simply watch the riots take place at games.  ::bater::

Edit: just read up on it, seems they abandoned and no one cares..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Super_Cup

A national Super Cup is lame anyway.

It would be way more interesting to organize a Cup with the champions of Greece versus the champions of Cyprus. That'd be fun.

Even more fun would be a Greek-Turkish Cup.

Yea we used to allow the big Cyrpiot teams in our league. Was great while it lasted.

Any Cypriot team you are fond of? What did you think of APOEL's CL run in 2012?

Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Agosto de 2014, 16:08
Wow I am impressed they went to Greece. You should use them more for holiday. Greece is a great place to take vacations. Even Athens is lots of fun.

Apparently the price for Manolas is €10 million. I really hope we get him for at least one more season.

Citação de: iKatz em 21 de Agosto de 2014, 16:33

Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Agosto de 2014, 16:08
Wow I am impressed they went to Greece. You should use them more for holiday. Greece is a great place to take vacations. Even Athens is lots of fun.

Apparently the price for Manolas is €10 million. I really hope we get him for at least one more season.

i remember when i went there.. alot of beaches, its very nice!  O0 so who is replacing manolas if he leaves?

Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Agosto de 2014, 16:37

Citação de: iKatz em 21 de Agosto de 2014, 16:33

Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Agosto de 2014, 16:08
Wow I am impressed they went to Greece. You should use them more for holiday. Greece is a great place to take vacations. Even Athens is lots of fun.

Apparently the price for Manolas is €10 million. I really hope we get him for at least one more season.

i remember when i went there.. alot of beaches, its very nice!  O0 so who is replacing manolas if he leaves?

Botia, Avraam, Siovas, Abidal are all CBs we have. The best two of those is Siovas and Abidal.

Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Agosto de 2014, 16:58
None ..

Players from our youth are all sold... :disgust: Fetfatzidis (Genoa), Mitroglou (Fulham), Kyriakos Papadopoulos (Schalke) etc..

Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Agosto de 2014, 00:19
It's a good point. I have no idea what happened with that? I suppose Olympiakos winning a lot of doubles kinda killed it. Also, the game requires a lot of police, so I think the EPO would rather just build their swimming pools in their private villas than put cash into security for another derby.

What is funny is that Greece police simply watch the riots take place at games.  ::bater::

Edit: just read up on it, seems they abandoned and no one cares..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Super_Cup

Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Agosto de 2014, 23:28
I agree!

(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/1547971_906176869397330_3552382157920778775_o.jpg)

Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Agosto de 2014, 20:03
Yea.. We are almost there. Are academy is exceptional - we are producing lots of talents... but because we have no B team... they get lost in loans and if ever they get good enough, they get sold...

Citação de: Trapattoni em 23 de Agosto de 2014, 11:52
Its true!
If you look closely what fascinates and gives me chills all times is to know that everything is connected on greek myths is that everything is connected to everything, and ahhh good old achilles, the times i spent with my teacher studing his entire "persona", he is even today my favorite of all heroes
Then you have these "small" evidences about certain events like the famous "Pillars of Hercules" witch is right into the straight of the gibraltar! Its such a mindblow!

PS:Im sorry you lost a good player like Samaris, but im sure Olympiacos is a capable team of getting alternatives and i believe you will get it done, anyway, just wish you the best of lucks out there

Citação de: KBMASTER em 19 de Agosto de 2014, 01:40
Regarding Kasami, believe me, he is going to be a breakthrough O0

Citação de: Lazar. em 23 de Agosto de 2014, 19:31
Olympiacos live at BenficaTV right now.

(http://i.gyazo.com/67b51561c50cd0981cb8f59aa9f091cc.png)

Citação de: Faliro em 23 de Agosto de 2014, 20:13

Citação de: Lazar. em 23 de Agosto de 2014, 19:31
Olympiacos live at BenficaTV right now.

(http://i.gyazo.com/67b51561c50cd0981cb8f59aa9f091cc.png)

Do you have an agreement to show all Olympiakos's games?

Citação de: Faliro em 23 de Agosto de 2014, 20:50
So you have all the Olympiakos league games? Can you buy benfica tv for streaming?

Citação de: Faliro em 25 de Agosto de 2014, 20:25
Reports are €15 million. If he held a Serb or Croat passport instead of Greek, that figure would be around €25 million. Benetia of Roma is €30 million... :crazy2:

As for the list of biggest Greek transfers, Samaris is up there, someone posted the list on the Samaris thread in your geral forum, let me find it...

1º Konstantinos Mitroglou: Olympiacos --> Fulham 15,20 M€
2º Nery Castillo: Olympiacos --> Shakhtar 15 M€
-- Andreas Samaris: Olypiacos --> Benfica 10 M€
3º Zlatko Zahovic: Olympiacos --> Valencia 8 M€
4º Kevin Mirallas: Olympiacos --> Everton 7,65 M€
5º Djibril Cissé: Panathinaikos --> Lazio 5,80 M€
6º Yaya Touré: Olympiacos --> Monaco 5,50 M€
7º Vladimír Weiss: Olympiacos --> Lekhwiya 5,30 M€
8º Fernando Belluschi: Olympiacos --> Porto 5 M€
9º Ljubomir Fejsa: Olympiacos --> Benfica 4,50 M€
10º Ioannis Fetfatzidis: Olympiacos --> Genoa 4 M€

Citação de: Faliro em 25 de Agosto de 2014, 20:54
I actually think the price you paid is about right. I think the stigma is the Greek passport. If he was a Serb or Italian, no one would have questioned €10 million as much..

He came from Panionios. They are playing at the moment against Ergotelis - most the team of Panionios is under 24 and Greek, with many 20 year olds in key positions. Olympiakos has taken many many many players from that club. Panionios are a very historic club in Greece and take local youngsters with huge potential, and put them straight in the lineup - sure they lose a few games here and there while the players adapt to playing crazy african and south american players (Greek league is one of the gateways to Africa's  talent), but come the end of the season, they make millions on selling battle-hardened quality talented youth. They prove, you give talent time - not matter how young, you can get big results.

Citação de: nevers0ft em 25 de Agosto de 2014, 21:43
Sorry to intrude...

But, Faliro which players do you think will be the next big transfers out from Greece?
Apart from Manolas which you have already explained...

Citação de: fyure em 25 de Agosto de 2014, 21:53
I agree with you Faliro. The only thing I don't understand is how Olympiacos can sell lower that sporting lisbon... They are a trully peace shit, but they can sell a player for more than 10 million. In that case, the league makes an impact, although I don't think that the portuguese league is so much bigger that the greek one. The fact is that the european resuts of the portuguese teams in recent years had a huge impact.

Citação de: Faliro em 25 de Agosto de 2014, 22:01

Citação de: fyure em 25 de Agosto de 2014, 21:53
I agree with you Faliro. The only thing I don't understand is how Olympiacos can sell lower that sporting lisbon... They are a trully peace shit, but they can sell a player for more than 10 million. In that case, the league makes an impact, although I don't think that the portuguese league is so much bigger that the greek one. The fact is that the european resuts of the portuguese teams in recent years had a huge impact.

Yes, not just your success in Europe, but also more importantly, how you are perceived. Portugal.. ones thinks of Eusabio, Christiano Ronaldo, Nani, Figo... selling big players to Chelsea, Man U, etc etc...

People think of Greece,, they think of Souvlaki, holidays, Georgios Samaras at Celtic dancing around the pitch...a 2004 victory that destroyed football and debt.

That is the key.  Olympiakos tries to destroy this image... PAO and PAOK encourage it..

Citação de: Faliro em 25 de Agosto de 2014, 22:48
In the UK, most the media either said Greece won by luck or destroying football and playing 'ugly.' 99.9% of the UK wanted Portugal to win.

Citação de: Faliro em 23 de Agosto de 2014, 19:43
EXCELLENT ^^^  :amigo: You watching?  ;D

Citação de: KBMASTER em 19 de Agosto de 2014, 01:40
Regarding Kasami, believe me, he is going to be a breakthrough O0

just scored on his debut just now... Once again, the Benfica fans prove they know their stuff concerning football.  :metal: :metal:

Citação de: Faliro em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 00:30
Manolas just sold to Roma, New record for Greek football: €15,500,000

http://www.sport24.gr/football/omades/Olympiakos/symfwnia_me_roma_gia_manwla_me_poso_rekor.2990616.html

Goodbye Manolas, you are the best Greek CB I have seen (Kyriakos Papadopoulos also when not injured) and one of the fastest.. bye and thanks for the great performances..

The last time as an Olympiakos player, watching the game against Volou..

(http://www.sport24.gr/football/omades/Olympiakos/article2987657.ece/BINARY/w620/1137809.jpg)

Citação de: KBMASTER em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 01:09

Citação de: Faliro em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 00:30
Manolas just sold to Roma, New record for Greek football: €15,500,000

http://www.sport24.gr/football/omades/Olympiakos/symfwnia_me_roma_gia_manwla_me_poso_rekor.2990616.html

Goodbye Manolas, you are the best Greek CB I have seen (Kyriakos Papadopoulos also when not injured) and one of the fastest.. bye and thanks for the great performances..

The last time as an Olympiakos player, watching the game against Volou..

(http://www.sport24.gr/football/omades/Olympiakos/article2987657.ece/BINARY/w620/1137809.jpg)

Well sold. I think it is a fair price. No % on future transfers of the player?

Citação de: Gottschalk em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 01:47
Walking the Greek league has been a given for the past few years. At least, if and until PAO or PAOK can step up their acts. What I personally think should be a priority to Olympiakos is to build a team good enough to win, say, an Europa League.

Citação de: GTtdi_SLB em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 01:49
who you replacing the position with now that manoulas left?

Citação de: Faliro em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 02:03

Citação de: GTtdi_SLB em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 01:49
who you replacing the position with now that manoulas left?

An inferior Spaniard called Botia we picked up from Sevilla for €2 million...
Siovas (good player - always injured)
Avraam (finished as a footballer)
Abidal

Citação de: bgardo em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 02:08
Wow, Manolas looked poised to sign for Arsenal. To be honest Faliro, it could have been huge for greek football to have a top player sold to the PL.

Portugal started to make great sales once Paulo Ferreira, Ricardo Carvalho, Ronaldo and Mourinho took the PL by storm.

Today, football in England is that big that if you are sucessfull there, then doors open and that could have been an importante step for Greek football and their players. With all due respecto to Samaras, Manolas could have been that star. Mitroglu could have been as well, but that transfer to Fulham was a shot in the foot.

Citação de: bgardo em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 02:10

Citação de: Faliro em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 02:03

Citação de: GTtdi_SLB em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 01:49
who you replacing the position with now that manoulas left?

An inferior Spaniard called Botia we picked up from Sevilla for €2 million...
Siovas (good player - always injured)
Avraam (finished as a footballer)
Abidal

I used to think highly of Botia. When he was with Sevilla a thought he could have been a good option for Benfica. But he clearly hasnt lived up to his potential. However i think for that price he could be a great surprise for you guys.

Citação de: Faliro em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 02:20

Citação de: bgardo em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 02:08
Wow, Manolas looked poised to sign for Arsenal. To be honest Faliro, it could have been huge for greek football to have a top player sold to the PL.

Portugal started to make great sales once Paulo Ferreira, Ricardo Carvalho, Ronaldo and Mourinho took the PL by storm.

Today, football in England is that big that if you are sucessfull there, then doors open and that could have been an importante step for Greek football and their players. With all due respecto to Samaras, Manolas could have been that star. Mitroglu could have been as well, but that transfer to Fulham was a shot in the foot.

I agree completely. The Italians and Germans are usually first to Greek players.
I did not want Roma for him. I don't like the league.

I don't like Arsenal either if I am honest, I actually thought Manolas was too good for them. I was hoping for a Chelsea, Man City, Man U, either of the two Portuguese giants, etc.. But Greek agents always love dealing with Italians.. the more complicated the deal, the more Greeks salivate...

Mitro to Fulham was a disaster. Damaged Greek players coming to the Prem. Samaras was seen as a mistake by Man City. Karagounis did fairly well as did Stelios at Bolton, Kygriakos at Liverpool etc.. Nothing sensational like the Portuguese... I was kind of hoping Mourinho would take a Greek player at some point... Whatever he touches instantly becomes valuable.. and he seems to have a soft spot for Greece maybe..

Maybe it is for the better... as long as the Brits keep thinking Greeks are football donkeys, the players are cheaper for clubs like Benfica and we can shock the prem teams every time they come to Greece...

Citação de: iKatz em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 02:34
Faliro, what happened with Panathinaikos?

I saw them squad now, and they are so poor.

Citação de: iKatz em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 02:47
I see, and PAO fans dont "do" nothing?

They are slowly getin more smaller

Citação de: Festivus em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 02:56
I was surprised when I found out that Panathinaikos had reached a ECC final back in the 70s which they ended up losing to Real Madrid. Their coach at the time being the famous Ferenc Puskás. Then again, as someone had said in the Hellas Football thread sometime ago, Panathinaikos have usually fared better in Europe than Olympiacos.

Citação de: Faliro em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 03:05

Citação de: Festivus em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 02:56
I was surprised when I found out that Panathinaikos had reached a ECC final back in the 70s which they ended up losing to Real Madrid. Their coach at the time being the famous Ferenc Puskás. Then again, as someone had said in the Hellas Football thread sometime ago, Panathinaikos have usually fared better in Europe than Olympiacos.

They lost to Ajax. Come to Greece, its all their stupid fans ever talk about.  ;D

They used to be better in Europe than us, but not for a long time. Even Asteras are better than them now in Europe!  ;D

Citação de: brankinho_gaspar em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 03:15
Don't mind him  ;D

I've always heard that Greece is a great place for a summer vacation. Do you confirm?

Citação de: Festivus em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 03:19

Citação de: Faliro em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 03:05

Citação de: Festivus em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 02:56
I was surprised when I found out that Panathinaikos had reached a ECC final back in the 70s which they ended up losing to Real Madrid. Their coach at the time being the famous Ferenc Puskás. Then again, as someone had said in the Hellas Football thread sometime ago, Panathinaikos have usually fared better in Europe than Olympiacos.

They lost to Ajax. Come to Greece, its all their stupid fans ever talk about.  ;D

They used to be better in Europe than us, but not for a long time. Even Asteras are better than them now in Europe!  ;D

Oh so it was to Ajax after all? Memory sure does play tricks on you sometimes  :tomates:

Well, we like to talk about all the European finals we've reached as well despite not being from one of the best leagues in Europe. And, of course, talk about the 2 we won, well 3 if you wanna include the Latin Cup.

Some users on this forum saw the finals agaisnt PSV and AC Milan in 88 and 90 respectively. Maybe it's a time healing all the wounds kind of thing, but even though they're disappointed we've lost them, they also seem to have some nostalgia when talking about them. Maybe it's because we still won championships more often back then and because it's been so long since we've reached a ECC/CL final and probably wont' reach one again any time soon, if ever. As someone born in 1990, I can't even imagine what must be like having your team reach a CL final and being talked all over the world. When we faced Chelsea in 2013, there was a lot of tlak all over the web, probably because of our opponent being the reigning European champion at the time. I say this because the final against Sevilla didn't have as much pre-match talk about it. Neutrals seemd disappointed that the final wasn't gonna be Juventus vs. Valencia after all. Apparently they thought Sevilal and Benfica ahd average teams and would have ratehr seen Juventus winning the cup. Yes, that would have been pretty interesting and unpredictable, no doubt about it.  ::)

Anyway, there's always a team or another with a lot of supporters and some history in their own country that just can't seem to achieve success in Europe for some reason. Sporting have never been good in Europe. They had a few of their best European runs of their entire history in the last 10 years. Not that that is difficult...

In England, Arsenal have never won anything other than a Cup Winner's Cup(I think) in the early 90s.

In Turkey you have Galatasaray with a better European record than Fenerbahçe.

It's interesting, really.

Citação de: Faliro em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 03:27

Citação de: Festivus em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 03:19

Citação de: Faliro em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 03:05

Citação de: Festivus em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 02:56
I was surprised when I found out that Panathinaikos had reached a ECC final back in the 70s which they ended up losing to Real Madrid. Their coach at the time being the famous Ferenc Puskás. Then again, as someone had said in the Hellas Football thread sometime ago, Panathinaikos have usually fared better in Europe than Olympiacos.

They lost to Ajax. Come to Greece, its all their stupid fans ever talk about.  ;D

They used to be better in Europe than us, but not for a long time. Even Asteras are better than them now in Europe!  ;D

Oh so it was to Ajax after all? Memory sure does play tricks on you sometimes  :tomates:

Well, we like to talk about all the European finals we've reached as well despite not being from one of the best leagues in Europe. And, of course, talk about the 2 we won, well 3 if you wanna include the Latin Cup.

Some users on this forum saw the finals agaisnt PSV and AC Milan in 88 and 90 respectively. Maybe it's a time healing all the wounds kind of thing, but even though they're disappointed we've lost them, they also seem to have some nostalgia when talking about them. Maybe it's because we still won championships more often back then and because it's been so long since we've reached a ECC/CL final and probably wont' reach one again any time soon, if ever. As someone born in 1990, I can't even imagine what must be like having your team reach a CL final and being talked all over the world. When we faced Chelsea in 2013, there was a lot of tlak all over the web, probably because of our opponent being the reigning European champion at the time. I say this because the final against Sevilla didn't have as much pre-match talk about it. Neutrals seemd disappointed that the final wasn't gonna be Juventus vs. Valencia after all. Apparently they thought Sevilal and Benfica ahd average teams and would have ratehr seen Juventus winning the cup. Yes, that would have been pretty interesting and unpredictable, no doubt about it.  ::)

Anyway, there's always a team or another with a lot of supporters and some history in their own country that just can't seem to achieve success in Europe for some reason. Sporting have never been good in Europe. They had a few of their best European runs of their entire history in the last 10 years. Not that that is difficult...

In England, Arsenal have never won anything other than a Cup Winner's Cup(I think) in the early 90s.

In Turkey you have Galatasaray with a better European record than Fenerbahçe.

It's interesting, really.

yea, the European debate is interesting. I think benfica can safely claim to be one of the giants of football. - PAO can't lol  :2funny: In Basketball Greek teams are among the biggest in Europe..the natural height of Greeks as well as money has helped. Football has been very hard because we could never compete financially. Europe is hard. We can be better, but Greeks move at 1km/h.. We need so much to change. I have got used to OSFP being the underdog and I don't mind, makes victories more special.

Citação de: Faliro em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 03:36
I don't think they will scrap it. Would be stupid to.