Hellas futebol

[HJDK]

PsychoFan an his theories

[T1n0_SLB]

The bible god is just a really bad SIMS player.

[PsychoFan]

The human and the need to kneel down.

That need definitely exists in my opinion. I have no idea what is up there.. or down there.. 

However I relate far more to the ancient Gods who drank, had sex, got high and cherished the arts that the Hebrew desert God who seems a bit too ''foreign'' to my culture.

I went to catholic school, so had to study the Bible for over 8 years - and even on an aesthetic level, I usually preferred other mythologies to the Biblical Judaic ones - most of their stories were borrowed from the Babylonians anyway...

The ancient gods were extraterrestrials who manipulated and controlled the incarnates. The god of the old testament including. Worshiping these gods is to worship who deprives you of your Freedom. Or in these days who deprived.

I believe in the Dodekatheon, it was believed man was engineered by Prometheus and Epimetheus the titan. So in hat case, we are the invention of aliens.

The judaic God was also an alien it seems so either way we were built by aliens.

Indeed lol. But understand that is not you that were built by these beings. And that's the most important. You are not what you think you are, i.e., a human.

[PsychoFan]

PsychoFan an his theories

It's not theories.

[HJDK]

PsychoFan an his theories

It's not theories.

Nulla è reale, tutto è lecito. Both you and I don't know what it's fiction and what it's not. In some way, that's part of beign human. But I wasn't mocking you or anything, I do enjoy your posts.

[H]

Impressionism and Expressionism are probably my two favorite art movements. I like me some Surrealism as well, especially Dali.

Got two van Gogh paintings(replicas, obviously) hanging on my apartment walls. My parents are both fans of him.

We have quite similar tastes mate. While I don't know too much about Expressionism, Impressionism is definitely my favourite movement, Monet, Renoir, Degas, Vuillard and Caillebotte are absolutely revered, if not worshipped, by me. Van Gogh is a very special man as well, he started and developed within a certain movement (I think he had an impressionist phase if I remember correctly, when he hanged around the dirty Parisian cafés of the Bélle Epoque with Toulouse-Lautrec and others) but then created their own style and became an unique, inimitable master.

Surrealism was the first movement I got into, after witnessing the relations between some Fernando Pessoa's poems and some Magritte's paintings, so it definitely holds a special place in my heart. Dalí, De Chirico e Magritte are the ones I like the most. Never got too much into Picasso and his surrealism, for some reason...

[H]

Wiki will be my first port of call! 

BTW I will tell you something crazy.. on the subject of Greeks and their secret feelings for the Dodekatheon.

My mother christened me Greek Orthodox (pissed off my father who was Catalan/English). Both my mother and father never mentioned God/religion to me as I suspect neither have a fucking clue if he/it exists.  However my mother would light candles in front of her old icon her father gave her in times of need.

Years and years ago when I was small, my mother was watching a programme on TV about aviation and I will never forget, she turned to me and said quietly, 'Vitas... you know, men are Gods in their own right - never forget that.'

Years and years later I asked her what she meant by that and she uncomfortably admitted her Greek father used to tell her that and that she believed it. That to me is an example of shreds of southern European paganism surviving 1500 years of Christianity. Most Greeks never fully let go of their pagan past, it just became increasingly difficult to mention it without being ridiculed.

Wow Faliro, you are bloody inspired today, you managed to share with us two sort of inspirational quotes, each one on its own way:

I don't pray to Zeus, lol. But I respect the ancient religion of my ancestors as holding more truth to humanity than the Desert God of the ChrisMusJews.

'Vitas... you know, men are Gods in their own right - never forget that.'

But that is indeed crazy and at the same time perhaps, a proof of paganism's strength I would say. Being able to resist the invading Christian religion and survive for one and a half millenium is definitely noteworthy and respectable.

You know, despite all the shit you hear me say about Christianity, deep down I have a bit of respect for the Eastern Orthodox "strain". Maybe it's because of the trip I've done around Europe, where I got to see the overwhelming and way more beautiful temples in Serbia and Bulgaria. The icons, the frescos, the panels, the iconostasis, they all seem quite beautiful to me in an aesthetic sense. Although most people here on the forum know, you're probably not aware of this, but I have a strong fascination with Russia so maybe it came from there as well.

If your last sentence is true, I would say that the first half of it something to be proud of. About being ridiculed, well... nowadays it's hard not getting ridiculed for anything really. And especially if you hold some kind of respect or adoration for something old, what you get from other people is something like "OMG dat shit is soooo old lol, you should watch some Jersey Shore, dat some new cool religion and shit bro. YOLO"

[H]

The ancient gods were extraterrestrials who manipulated and controlled the incarnates. The god of the old testament including. Worshiping these gods is to worship who deprives you of your Freedom. Or in these days who deprived.

[Faliro]

Wiki will be my first port of call! 

BTW I will tell you something crazy.. on the subject of Greeks and their secret feelings for the Dodekatheon.

My mother christened me Greek Orthodox (pissed off my father who was Catalan/English). Both my mother and father never mentioned God/religion to me as I suspect neither have a fucking clue if he/it exists.  However my mother would light candles in front of her old icon her father gave her in times of need.

Years and years ago when I was small, my mother was watching a programme on TV about aviation and I will never forget, she turned to me and said quietly, '... you know, men are Gods in their own right - never forget that.'

Years and years later I asked her what she meant by that and she uncomfortably admitted her Greek father used to tell her that and that she believed it. That to me is an example of shreds of southern European paganism surviving 1500 years of Christianity. Most Greeks never fully let go of their pagan past, it just became increasingly difficult to mention it without being ridiculed.

Wow Faliro, you are bloody inspired today, you managed to share with us two sort of inspirational quotes, each one on its own way:

I don't pray to Zeus, lol. But I respect the ancient religion of my ancestors as holding more truth to humanity than the Desert God of the ChrisMusJews.

'Vitas... you know, men are Gods in their own right - never forget that.'

But that is indeed crazy and at the same time perhaps, a proof of paganism's strength I would say. Being able to resist the invading Christian religion and survive for one and a half millenium is definitely noteworthy and respectable.

You know, despite all the shit you hear me say about Christianity, deep down I have a bit of respect for the Eastern Orthodox "strain". Maybe it's because of the trip I've done around Europe, where I got to see the overwhelming and way more beautiful temples in Serbia and Bulgaria. The icons, the frescos, the panels, the iconostasis, they all seem quite beautiful to me in an aesthetic sense. Although most people here on the forum know, you're probably not aware of this, but I have a strong fascination with Russia so maybe it came from there as well.

If your last sentence is true, I would say that the first half of it something to be proud of. About being ridiculed, well... nowadays it's hard not getting ridiculed for anything really. And especially if you hold some kind of respect or adoration for something old, what you get from other people is something like "OMG dat shit is soooo old lol, you should watch some Jersey Shore, dat some new cool religion and shit bro. YOLO"

I am curious myself to exactly how much the eastern orthodox church has retained from pagan ceremonies, besides the obvious holy water and offerings to votives. Probably the choral singing style is very similar also.

[H]

Well, the polyphonic choral singing is definitely one of the best traits of the eastern orthodox church. I am not aware if it has influence from pagan singing, but if it does, it's just another proof of the sublime beauty that is inherent to the pagan spirit.

[Faliro]

Well I think there is a high possibility the chant style is 'borrowed.'

I believe for example, if you transported back to 400 BC France, they would be speaking some bizarre language, but the accent would still be french.

The Orthodox chanting and choral singing is not borrowed from Judaic traditions so therefore I assume its ancestors where the ritual chants in praise of the Gods - especially while giving offerings such as fatty meats to Zeus or milk and honey to Poseidon for example.

[nqsbenfica]

[PsychoFan]

The bible god is just a really bad SIMS player.

No, he really is very good, and his companions as well.

[Faliro]

Giorgio Tsoukalos 

[PsychoFan]

Giorgio Tsoukalos 

  Classic.