Hellas futebol

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Xanthi disbanded.

https://www.sportime.gr/podosfairo/xanthi-i-omada-protipo-ke-i-dialisi-tis-pae/

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Xanthi disbanded.

https://www.sportime.gr/podosfairo/xanthi-i-omada-protipo-ke-i-dialisi-tis-pae/

RIP

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There Will be emotion this season?

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There Will be emotion this season?

Yes.

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There Will be emotion this season?

For starters there will be more fans at games. AEK's new stadium opens tonight. While they were at the OAKA - they barely got 10,000 fans per game. In this new OPAP Arena they move into tonight, I suspect, they will get around 30,000 fans there for every game - an extra 20,000 compared to the OAKA.

There is a very good article on why new stadiums are so important I have linked. I amazed greek football survived at all the last 20 years with such crappy stadiums.

https://www.sport24.gr/opinions/antonis-oikonomidis/aek-opap-arena-i-zontania-poy-leipei-apo-to-elliniko-podosfairo.9775637.html

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Just incase someone has nothing do to with their lives, AEK return to their new stadium at 6pm gmt for their first game back in their own new stadium in 19 years.

Hesgoal will probably have the game.

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Just incase someone has nothing do to with their lives, AEK return to their new stadium at 6pm gmt for their first game back in their own new stadium in 19 years.

Hesgoal will probably have the game.

Great start for them. Let's see how they Will do in the future.

What about new stadiums for others Greek clubs?

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Just incase someone has nothing do to with their lives, AEK return to their new stadium at 6pm gmt for their first game back in their own new stadium in 19 years.

Hesgoal will probably have the game.

Great start for them. Let's see how they Will do in the future.

What about new stadiums for others Greek clubs?

Was a magical night for them. Highlights:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iryMb4EGsz8

So, to take stock.

Olympiacos - Karaiskaki. Perfect.
AEK - Agia Sofia. Perfect.

Now...

PAO - Votanikos. Plans approved. Finance secured. The year long tender for a constructor starts next month. It's a massive project, bigger than the others, includes a shopping mall, urban forest etc. Works to begin 2024. Capacity 40k.

PAOK - Nea Toumba. Plans to submitted to fans next month. They will vote on the best design of 3. Building to start 2024. Capacity 35k due to site not being that big.

Aris - Neo Xarilao. No news, not even plans. Speculative capacity due to the size of the plot they have chosen, 32k.

Iraklis new stadium. Planning stage. Capacity 16k.

OFI.. no designs yet. Probably around 16k.

Kalamata, no designs yet.

It will take a while for Hellas to get back to where it belongs.. however, the Agia Sofia has already lifted the entire league about 10%.

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Just incase someone has nothing do to with their lives, AEK return to their new stadium at 6pm gmt for their first game back in their own new stadium in 19 years.

Hesgoal will probably have the game.

Great start for them. Let's see how they Will do in the future.

What about new stadiums for others Greek clubs?

Was a magical night for them. Highlights:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iryMb4EGsz8

So, to take stock.

Olympiacos - Karaiskaki. Perfect.
AEK - Agia Sofia. Perfect.

Now...

PAO - Votanikos. Plans approved. Finance secured. The year long tender for a constructor starts next month. It's a massive project, bigger than the others, includes a shopping mall, urban forest etc. Works to begin 2024. Capacity 40k.

PAOK - Nea Toumba. Plans to submitted to fans next month. They will vote on the best design of 3. Building to start 2024. Capacity 35k due to site not being that big.

Aris - Neo Xarilao. No news, not even plans. Speculative capacity due to the size of the plot they have chosen, 32k.

Iraklis new stadium. Planning stage. Capacity 16k.

OFI.. no designs yet. Probably around 16k.

Kalamata, no designs yet.

It will take a while for Hellas to get back to where it belongs.. however, the Agia Sofia has already lifted the entire league about 10%.

Thanks.

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So, welcome back to Elladastan my friends for your monthly update.

PAO have won all 9 of their games in the league and look set for the title this year.
All Greeks teams knocked out of Europe because they crap.

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To stadiums, my favourite subject. There has been an interesting development, but first, to where we are.

PAOK still stalling on revealing the drawings for their 35,000 new toumba stadium.
PAO have put their new 40k Votanikos out to tender.

But here is where it gets interesting. In Greece many lies are told about stadiums because the left doesn't like big stadiums. The councils, journalists - people in positions of power like smaller stadiums because they are cheaper. However they don't admit that. Instead they make up excuses about lack of space etc etc...

So.. It was announced last week Greece is going to attempt to host 2030 World Cup with Egypt and Saudi Arabia. Why is this interesting? Because clearly Greece will need at least 2 40k stadiums. Votanikos can be one but what about PAOK's new 35k stadium that the architects strangely said can't be any higher in capacity due to space limitations even though there is plenty of space. Well, the Saudis really want this World Cup.. so much so... they are willing to throw some money at the new PAOK stadium to make sure this joint World Cup happens. I think the architects PAOK are employing may now suddenly say 40k is possible.. 

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Finally, Greeks are discussing putting massive trenches around the pitches of both these stadiums to stop fans storming the pitch. The debate atm is how deep to make the trenches..

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The Olympic stadium isn't an option?

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The Olympic stadium isn't an option?

It has not been mentioned so far. Of course the wise money is on the focus of  the Nea Toumba and Votanikos. However if 3 stadiums are needed, the only other option is the OAKA.. unless Aris build a 40k stadium like PAOK is now thinking of.. There is the room for a 40k stadium Aris Stadium in the area they are negotiating for.

There is one other factor. FIFA might ditch the 40k minimum capacity for WC stadiums. If that happens, the Karaiskaki and Agia Sofia stadiums come into focus.

My hope is the Saudis force PAOK to go 40k. My hope is they don't allow Greece to jeopardise what is essentially their World Cup.. 

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The Olympic stadium isn't an option?

It has not been mentioned so far. Of course the wise money is on the focus of  the Nea Toumba and Votanikos. However if 3 stadiums are needed, the only other option is the OAKA.. unless Aris build a 40k stadium like PAOK is now thinking of.. There is the room for a 40k stadium Aris Stadium in the area they are negotiating for.

There is one other factor. FIFA might ditch the 40k minimum capacity for WC stadiums. If that happens, the Karaiskaki and Agia Sofia stadiums come into focus.

My hope is the Saudis force PAOK to go 40k. My hope is they don't allow Greece to jeopardise what is essentially their World Cup.. 

That's all very cute but the World Cuo Will be here, Spain and Ukraine.

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The Olympic stadium isn't an option?

It has not been mentioned so far. Of course the wise money is on the focus of  the Nea Toumba and Votanikos. However if 3 stadiums are needed, the only other option is the OAKA.. unless Aris build a 40k stadium like PAOK is now thinking of.. There is the room for a 40k stadium Aris Stadium in the area they are negotiating for.

There is one other factor. FIFA might ditch the 40k minimum capacity for WC stadiums. If that happens, the Karaiskaki and Agia Sofia stadiums come into focus.

My hope is the Saudis force PAOK to go 40k. My hope is they don't allow Greece to jeopardise what is essentially their World Cup.. 

That's all very cute but the World Cuo Will be here, Spain and Ukraine.

Doesn't matter though. Saudis will want a bullet-proof bid. A 35k Nea Toumba wont be acceptable. Toumba is to be completed by 2026.. so.. it matters in that regard.

As for an actual WC in Greece, Saudi and Egypt.. I think a better one would be Italy and Greece.. however, Greece needs more stadiums for that to happen.

Portugal and Spain would be excellent.

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The Olympic stadium isn't an option?

It has not been mentioned so far. Of course the wise money is on the focus of  the Nea Toumba and Votanikos. However if 3 stadiums are needed, the only other option is the OAKA.. unless Aris build a 40k stadium like PAOK is now thinking of.. There is the room for a 40k stadium Aris Stadium in the area they are negotiating for.

There is one other factor. FIFA might ditch the 40k minimum capacity for WC stadiums. If that happens, the Karaiskaki and Agia Sofia stadiums come into focus.

My hope is the Saudis force PAOK to go 40k. My hope is they don't allow Greece to jeopardise what is essentially their World Cup.. 

That's all very cute but the World Cuo Will be here, Spain and Ukraine.

Doesn't matter though. Saudis will want a bullet-proof bid. A 35k Nea Toumba wont be acceptable. Toumba is to be completed by 2026.. so.. it matters in that regard.

As for an actual WC in Greece, Saudi and Egypt.. I think a better one would be Italy and Greece.. however, Greece needs more stadiums for that to happen.

Portugal and Spain would be excellent.

The Greek bid ia weak and don't makes any sense. Any other bid is better.