Europa League: Benfica - Juventus

Vitor84


Godescalco

Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:17I wish you lose the final just cause i've read the word mafia or corruption linked to juventus too many times in only 3/4 times i joined this forum, just because of your friendship with turin friends, the cows...

Benfica has a historical and friendly relationship with Torino due to the tragedy of 1949. Surely, you can understand that, right?

We don't have any rivalry with Juventus: you're in Italy, we're in Portugal. It was normal to hear some provocations from the fans on each side during this heated tie - afterall, a final of an European competition was at stake - but those things are just part of football. Sure, our fans called you "thieves" and "mafia" but that's an image you'll never get rid of on the international stage. In fact, Italian football as a whole will never get rid of the image of corruption since it's so ingrained there. You are considered to be corrupt not just here in Portugal, but everywhere else as well. We didn't invent it, for God's sake! We just hit you in a soft spot and you got offended. That's kind of expectable. What I didn't expect was that your club should get offended at the banner honouring Torino's memory. That was just depressing on your part.

Nevertheless, it was clear from the get-go that your team underestimated us. Pirlo and Llorente practically took the victory for granted and that sort of disrespect just fueled the animosity from our fans. Then, the issue with Enzo Pérez was simply just a cheap shot and showed lack of class on your part. After that episode, there was no turning back. After the game, Conte was even worse, showing lack of class and an overall pathetic evaluation of what actually went on on the pitch. But that's his problem now, and yours, not ours.

As for the final in Turin, I understand that you wish Sevilla to win it. I don't take it personally. You're frustrated, that's fine. I do hope Torino fans help us there. It will certainly be an exciting event and I hope we finally clinch it.

Darkboy

Citação de: JUVENTINO em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:31
CONGRATULATIONS GUYS ...
I HOPE you win THE CUP  :bandeiraslb2:

I hoped until the last second in one of our goals, nothing ... Benfica has held up very well.
Cheers for the fair-play during the pre and post semi-finals, Juventino. O0

Good luck in Serie A and next season Champions League.

L3GEND

Citação de: JUVENTINO em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:31
CONGRATULATIONS GUYS ...
I HOPE you win THE CUP  :bandeiraslb2:

I hoped until the last second in one of our goals, nothing ... Benfica has held up very well.
Thank you Juventino!

You're club might not have the best reputation in the world, and i know you could have a rough time here since many of us don't like your club very much, but i have nothing but respect for you!

You're a great sport. And congratulations for your Seria A title! ;)

H

Citação de: JUVENTINO em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:31
CONGRATULATIONS GUYS ...
I HOPE you win THE CUP  :bandeiraslb2:

I hoped until the last second in one of our goals, nothing ... Benfica has held up very well.
Thank you Juventino, for your sportmanship and respect. Wish you all the best with Vecchia Signora.

cavpacores

Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:35
Citação de: Darkboy em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:30
Strong butthurt detected.
benfica is a very good team and deserves the final....maybe benfiquista fans dont deserve it that much...

What?

You should be ashamed of yourself for defendig a club without honour and fairplay

If you mess wih the bull...

JUVENTINO

Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:31
Citação de: L3GEND em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:18
I'm sorry Lucypher, you as i believe most of Juventus fans, of course doesn't have fault for the reputation of your club.

Juventus could be known for many good things or players you had in the past... but it's undeniable that your club (at least) was, corrupt.We, Benfica fans, for the past 20+ years have been fighting againts an incredible Corrupt club and President (of Porto), so we are more "sensetive" to this things. And thats why you won't hear many good things about Juventus from our fans.

And than there's Platini and UEFA, who everyone hates, wich happens to be a Juventus fan... its too much!

But again, you and the fans don't have fault.
sure about it? you know why and how court arrived to the decision? did you study the trial acts? just becaus cows say so? what do you know about italy and what's happening here the last years? you insult juventus just because of what turin fans say, it's like hating jewish people because of what nazi used to state...
this is guilty superficiality and it's a good reason to hope you to lose...

platini was a juventus player but he's a politician...he loves us so much that we had to play in the turkish mud....

lost time, Lucypehr ...

I have often asked those who argued that the juventus steals in retrospect not accuse without knowledge ... but some (not all of course) the answer is always the same: "Everyone says that the juve steals" .

lucypher

goodbye guys... nothing keeps me here, hope you'll find better relathionships than cows and remember... before to judge other people in other countries be sure to know facts well and not de relato... many people in italy, not juventus fans but impartial, are reevaluating farsopoli as it is...a sham

Vitor84

I have a lot of respect for juve fans, I have some italian friends and they are all juventinos. I criticize some behavior of juventus staff, and of course who don't respect me and benfiquistas, like your shity coach.

lucypher

Citação de: cavpacores em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:38
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:35
Citação de: Darkboy em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:30
Strong butthurt detected.
benfica is a very good team and deserves the final....maybe benfiquista fans dont deserve it that much...

What?

You should be ashamed of yourself for defendig a club without honour and fairplay
If you mess wih the bull...
what you know about it? what cows say? many people say not too well about portuguese people, do i have to believe it? come on

Godescalco

I am pretty certain that Juve steals. But I also know that other Italian teams steal, like Milan, Inter, Fiorentina, Roma, etc. It's part of Italian football culture in particular and Southern European culture as a whole. It's nothing new.

Again, I don't have anything personal against Juve. From among the big three in Italy, it was the one I actually sympathised with the most. But in this tie, they showed lack of class and unsportmanship. Sure, it will all be pretty much forgotten in a few months time anyway. No need to get too hung up about it.

By the way, thanks for your kind words, Juventino. You're a good fellow.

L3GEND

Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:31
Citação de: L3GEND em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:18
I'm sorry Lucypher, you as i believe most of Juventus fans, of course doesn't have fault for the reputation of your club.

Juventus could be known for many good things or players you had in the past... but it's undeniable that your club (at least) was, corrupt.We, Benfica fans, for the past 20+ years have been fighting againts an incredible Corrupt club and President (of Porto), so we are more "sensetive" to this things. And thats why you won't hear many good things about Juventus from our fans.

And than there's Platini and UEFA, who everyone hates, wich happens to be a Juventus fan... its too much!

But again, you and the fans don't have fault.
sure about it? you know why and how court arrived to the decision? did you study the trial acts? just becaus cows say so? what do you know about italy and what's happening here the last years? you insult juventus just because of what turin fans say, it's like hating jewish people because of what nazi used to state...
this is guilty superficiality and it's a good reason to hope you to lose...

platini was a juventus player but he's a politician...he loves us so much that we had to play in the turkish mud....
Are you serious, man?

I'm gonna pretend i didn't read what you said, and the comparisons that you made.


cavpacores

Citação de: JUVENTINO em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:31
CONGRATULATIONS GUYS ...
I HOPE you win THE CUP  :bandeiraslb2:

I hoped until the last second in one of our goals, nothing ... Benfica has held up very well.

Juventino, maximum respect for you as a sportsman

Really sad for all the behaviour of Juventus in this stage but really pleased to your adiction to our forum

Really hope you can stick around and, talking in my behalf, I´m sorry for the insults I may profer this days.

Really understand that as a fan you don ´t have fault of the coach and club behaviour

Hope you can celebrate the Scudetto nevertheless

cavpacores

Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:41
Citação de: cavpacores em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:38
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:35
Citação de: Darkboy em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:30
Strong butthurt detected.
benfica is a very good team and deserves the final....maybe benfiquista fans dont deserve it that much...

What?

You should be ashamed of yourself for defendig a club without honour and fairplay
If you mess wih the bull...
what you know about it? what cows say? many people say not too well about portuguese people, do i have to believe it? come on

Well, I known what I saw

The arrogancy shown by your players

The incredible denial to Benfica show the banner honouring Superga

The feeling of provocation because our fans did it anyway

The complaint trying to punish Enzo when Chiellini also shoves Maxi Pereira and a penalty was denied to us

The unbeliaveble words of Conte yestarday

The provocations to our bench and players

Nothing to do with TOrino...

Just what it was visible or do you denied that this happened?


JUVENTINO

Citação de: Gottschalk em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:43
I am pretty certain that Juve steals. But I also know that other Italian teams steal, like Milan, Inter, Fiorentina, Roma, etc. It's part of Italian football culture in particular and Southern European culture as a whole. It's nothing new.

Again, I don't have anything personal against Juve. From among the big three in Italy, it was the one I actually sympathised with the most. But in this tie, they showed lack of class and unsportmanship. Sure, it will all be pretty much forgotten in a few months time anyway. No need to get too hung up about it.

By the way, thanks for your kind words, Juventino. You're a good fellow.


Thank you.
But I can not forget that ever since I came to this topic fans of the "Bull" or Inter ... many of you have followed them and you are left free to go to insults against juve ...

anyway ... I appreciate those who wanted to discuss with me without any prejudice