Crvena Zvezda - Estrela Vermelha - Red Star

kneissl


kneissl

i'd love to see Hajduk in European competitions

Godescalco

We need to create a thread just for Hajduk Split.


Schweisen Tiger

Friends...no religious nor political confrontation here. The only religion allowed is Benfica.

Andrija Balic 16

Citação de: Schweisen Tiger em 06 de Maio de 2014, 23:34
Friends...no religious nor political confrontation here. The only religion allowed is Benfica.
I agree,but I was explain why you should not support club like Crvena Zvezda( Serbian Mafia). Partizan same thing

Covenant


Schweisen Tiger

Citação de: Andrija Balic 16 em 06 de Maio de 2014, 23:46
Citação de: Schweisen Tiger em 06 de Maio de 2014, 23:34
Friends...no religious nor political confrontation here. The only religion allowed is Benfica.
I agree,but I was explain why you should not support club like Crvena Zvezda( Serbian Mafia). Partizan same thing

I'm aware of things in Balcans. I remember that Dinamo-Red Star where some people say that it was the beggining of the war...

I also think that 20 years later, things are much worse for the big 4 (Red Star, Partizan, Dinamo, Hajduk). These 4, huge, highly respected clubs are nothing, compared with what they were. No average team in western leagues fears playing in Serbia and Croatia anymore...and that is a shame, because i remember Marakana, Maksimir and Poljud were pretty hard stadiums to play. If it true that Bosman's Law changed everything...it isn't less true that talent still rises in that part of Europe. Maybe you need to focus in ending corruption and creating better facilities to this clubs get their level higher...not compared with what they used to be, but at least to make good participations on Europa League...because it's possible.

Godescalco

What ended the good fortunes of Eastern clubs was the collapse of Communism.

Most of these mythical Eastern clubs were basically state sponsored. It's not easy to make the transition to an open market society where you don't rely on state corporations anymore.

Andrija Balic 16

Citação de: Schweisen Tiger em 07 de Maio de 2014, 00:26
Citação de: Andrija Balic 16 em 06 de Maio de 2014, 23:46
Citação de: Schweisen Tiger em 06 de Maio de 2014, 23:34
Friends...no religious nor political confrontation here. The only religion allowed is Benfica.
I agree,but I was explain why you should not support club like Crvena Zvezda( Serbian Mafia). Partizan same thing

I'm aware of things in Balcans. I remember that Dinamo-Red Star where some people say that it was the beggining of the war...

I also think that 20 years later, things are much worse for the big 4 (Red Star, Partizan, Dinamo, Hajduk). These 4, huge, highly respected clubs are nothing, compared with what they were. No average team in western leagues fears playing in Serbia and Croatia anymore...and that is a shame, because i remember Marakana, Maksimir and Poljud were pretty hard stadiums to play. If it true that Bosman's Law changed everything...it isn't less true that talent still rises in that part of Europe. Maybe you need to focus in ending corruption and creating better facilities to this clubs get their level higher...not compared with what they used to be, but at least to make good participations on Europa League...because it's possible.

You are apsloutely in right,but that is far past... Yes,our stadiums,corruption,ilegally are BIG problems and we are active trying to change things the best we can. One thing maybe the best fact is that Dinamo( 9x champion in a row) has 2000 people average and their boss as I said afternoon already is apsloutely boss of country( He is best friend with one of most important judges,police spends all his orders -that is special story about repression of BBB .He does not allow many of them to go on matches by inventing rules and black lists,he founded new fan group that pays for cheerleading,he is BIG PIECE OF SHIT! )

That is biggest different between us and Serbs who are in cahoots with their people in clubs(mafioso) and police and they are in mutual war,they are killing within the group.

Red Star will be new champion only because the new Prime minister is Zvezda fan and he gives the governement money for mafia club Crvena zZvezda!

Red Star Belgrade

#115
Can admin delete those insulting messages for my club,my people,country and y religion,I don't want to discuss about Croatia and their  clubs? Or you can delete this topic and my account.


Red Star Belgrade

Citação de: cipri_slb em 09 de Maio de 2014, 21:44
Marko Petkovic is good?
Sorry admins,I didn't knewed , I don't want to disccuss about Red Star until you take some care about  insults and make this forum readable.

Red Star Belgrade

OK,please delete this topc,I'm going away of this forum. I wish you all the best,to win Europe league title. Good luck

Covenant