Hellas futebol

[Faliro]

It is more to do with self sabotage. Greeks will usually always attempt to damage any other Greek who is smart, anyone with style or anyone with ideas. The people who are left in Greece after millenia of emigration are the ones either too stupid or too poor to leave. Out of those, the most stupid and corrupt of them will end up in the EPO, Government or general administration of the country.

I said it years ago, Greeks are still mentally Turkish slaves, they have not made the move up physiologically.  Those who have left Greece and started new families, those are 100 times above the average native Greek. The more mixed the Greek abroad is - the more they marry into other cultures, the more hope. The more Greek.. the more idiotic. Simple really.

[HJDK]

http://www.abola.pt/nnh/ver.aspx?id=512910

Another one from today. "I couldn't take a red shirt to training". I swear these guys are fucking sick/retarded. They basically sum up everything sports isn't.



Honestly, I don't have a clue how you got there. We were never a bright country(even in our golden age), there was always a lack of passion or interest in arts or culture. Without the money we still are the same thing and care about the same stuff for 500 years: Whores and wine.

But I look at Greece and think of Democracy, all these philosophers like Socrates, Thales of Miletus, Aristotle, Plato....people like Archimedes and so one....

I don't know how you got to your current state.

[Faliro]

Rome happened. Millions of Greeks emigrated there after the fall of Greece to Rome. There were so many Greeks in Rome, Greek was the lingua franca - same in southern Italy.

The Greeks left remaining faught off the goths and the few with any brains founded the Byzantine Empire.

When the Turks conquered that 800 years later, Greeks emigrated en masse again to Venice and Italy. Most Greeks who were lucky not to be sold into slavery - walked to Italy.. The only Greeks left in Greece or Turkey converted to islam and are now Turks or were too poor to leave (what is now modern greeks). They were farmers, thieves and peasants - their children are modern greeks. Out of them, some made money - those would immediately leave to. So you are left with the opposite of natural selection. You are left with a race - once the golden children of knowledge and art... now the dregs of society and you can see their stupidity in every decision. Oh my goodness how the Greek press turn on anyone who tries to improve anything in greece...

Greece is the result of 2000 years of anyone with a brain, leaving and the dumb remaining, breeding new dumb.

[Maxi_14]

How it is possible that your national team is losing against Faroe Islands?

Do you want Santos back?

[Faliro]

Greece is pathetic. The team? PAO rejects... Ranieri a disgustingly bad coach. The EPO that selected him is so corrupt they recently won a battle to keep their finaces away from the public eye...

Terrible players selected, terrible game.

Disaster.

Still relieved Santos is not in charge however...

[Faliro]

Population of faroe islands, 49,000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Serious Mavrias, Lazaros, Athansiadis, Karelis, Maniatis are all exceptionally shit players. I would never recommend them - to any team unless I wanted that team to do badly.

Greece has some great players - like Bruno Xalkiadakis (Brazilian Greek, 21 years old), but they play for teams like Ergotelis - who stupid Greeks think should not be allowed to represent Greece unless they play for AEK, PAO, PAOK, or Olympiakos.

[Cloughie]

3 losses at home.

Ranieri out.

[Cloughie]

Rome happened. Millions of Greeks emigrated there after the fall of Greece to Rome. There were so many Greeks in Rome, Greek was the lingua franca - same in southern Italy.

The Greeks left remaining faught off the goths and the few with any brains founded the Byzantine Empire.

When the Turks conquered that 800 years later, Greeks emigrated en masse again to Venice and Italy. Most Greeks who were lucky not to be sold into slavery - walked to Italy.. The only Greeks left in Greece or Turkey converted to islam and are now Turks or were too poor to leave (what is now modern greeks). They were farmers, thieves and peasants - their children are modern greeks. Out of them, some made money - those would immediately leave to. So you are left with the opposite of natural selection. You are left with a race - once the golden children of knowledge and art... now the dregs of society and you can see their stupidity in every decision. Oh my goodness how the Greek press turn on anyone who tries to improve anything in greece...

Greece is the result of 2000 years of anyone with a brain, leaving and the dumb remaining, breeding new dumb.

So Greece is like a Huge Portuguese Secret Story home?

[Faliro]

3 losses at home.

Ranieri out.

3 losses at home in a row with 0 goals scored!!!! 

[Maxi_14]

After this I just want to say that Samaris, as a Benfica player, should have stayed in Portugal. At least he could learn and train with the team.

[Faliro]

As far as Samaris is concerned, if he was an asset being rated by a financial company, he would be junk status. Unrecognizable from the player last season.

Can you believe Mitroglou was not even selected for this squad? 

[Maxi_14]

But why? He wanted to stay in Olympiakos? He needs to find the player inside him again. Probably is a psychological problem, I don't know. Last game he entered in the game to give stability in the midfield but he was a total mess. Unbelievable the amount of passes that he failed and he never managed to stop the adversary.
He needs to be more intelligent and have more confidence.
He is the kind of player that if he play well we will say that he have class.
I hope that he start to play well. Benfica is a great club to grow. I hope that he realises that.


And I was wondering where was Mitroglou. It's amazing how he is not selected.

[Faliro]

I have no idea why Samaris has got worse. Could be many things, coach, environment, personal problems - maybe the seasons before he was just in great form? I only knew him from a year ago.. I did not like the way he played today. Looked stupid to me. Foolish even.

As for Mitroglou not being selected I have no idea what Ranieri is thinking. But the players he did select.... po po po as we say in Greece... karelis, Mavrias, Kone, Maniatis, Lazaros - terrible players.. really, you could find some gypsies playing in Piraeus on the street who have better ball control than these players... They are really very very poor players. PAO and PAOK puts big pressure through its newspapers it owns to play PAO or ex PAO players... but seriously, these players are a disaster - if the Faroe Islands was offered these players I doubt they would take any of them and I am being serious. Any team they are in, will play worse.

[Maxi_14]

We call our nacional team "A Seleção do Mendes". Almost all the player that Paulo Bento used to select have Jorge Mendes as agent.
Now, with Santos, he selected almost all of the good players available. (But we still play really bad  ).
So in Portugal is not the press or the clubs that put pressure, but Jorge Mendes. He controls so many things.

[Faliro]

Think the same type of thing happens in Greece. Some of the players have no quality at all and yet walk into the team. 100% this is down to corruption and stupidity. I think it is great Greece lost tonight. Put huge pressure on the corrupt EPO, at least for one evening... tomorrow they will have forgot it.