Hellas futebol

[Faliro]

Problem is, most Greeks believe there are too many teams.. They hate teams like Kalloni and Ergotelis.

Whenever PAOK or PAO lose to them, their fans always say the same: ''these small teams are embarrassing - they should not even be allowed to be in the league.. there are too many teams..''

But if they are embarrassing, why are they beating PAOK and PAO? Too many foreigners? Cheating?

This Zombie will reduce the league... but personally I would keep the league at 18. However, teams that cannot afford to stay in the league should be barred from entering the league.

[Faliro]

What is frustrating is that so many important teams, or teams with good stadia are outside the top league due to poor management.

AEK
Apollon Smyrnis
Iraklis
Aris
Larissa
Kavala..

[H]

But if they are embarrassing, why are they beating PAOK and PAO? Too many foreigners? Cheating?

Probably because they use the "bus tactic", as we call it in Portugal?

[Faliro]

Could be, but also many of these small teams buy better players.

For example - PAOK don't have a striker as good as...

Moreno of Panaitolikos (on loan from Braga)

PAO don't have a midfielder as good as ....

Fernando Godoy of Panaitolikos or Inglesias of Asteras...

The list goes on... The reason Kalloni beat PAOK and PAO - easily.. is that they bought better players - cheaper...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalloni_F.C.#Players

Also PAO and PAOK have terrible coaches... the smaller teams tend to get better coaches...

PAO and PAOK think that by buying shit players, hiring shit coaches - they should be able to win the league... when they can't even beat village teams..

[Covenant]

But... If the other teams have  better players how they finish in second, third...?

[Faliro]

Most seasons PAOK and PAO don't finish second or third, but many they do..Sometimes they need the play off to help them, PAO missed out on those in 2012-13 by coming 6th!

Usually they do well because if you watch a game at Toubaspor or Leoforos (PAO) - the fans scream at the referee for every single imagined foul, throw in, tackle, corner, goal kick - everything. I say scream... I mean yell, throw objects and sound like there is about to a major riot. Look how Xanthi were treated for beating PAO in Leoforo last week...








Most refs give in early and start giving every decision to the home team..PAOK, AEK and PAO..
They win so many games like this... so many.. Many of their more honest fans state after games.. 'few.. we were lucky...' translated: 'the other team was better but the ref helped us..' However they don't dwell on it, obviously they have pride... Refs get beaten up after games... we lost weeks of football due to a ref being beaten with iron bars a few months ago..apparently he was beaten on the orders of Melissandis according to Marinakis.

However When PAOK, PAO, AEK play away.... their fans are outnumbered. 
The ref is free to make discions without his car being set on fire after the game or a fan coming on the pitch to punch him. This is where the smaller teams teach PAOK, PAO, AEK that they know nothing about football...

[T1n0_SLB]

Ya ya yada yada

[Faliro]

So..back to Elladastan....

Remember OFI? Lost 15 players last month for not paying their wages? -10 points in the league last month for not paying 3 previous players? Banned from the super league last month for non payment of debts? They argued and argued and were allowed to play their game against PAOK today in Crete.

Their team today? 
Manolis Bolakis - 20 years old..
Manolis Fazos - 19 years old..
Charalambos Damianakis - 19 years old..

current score:
OFI  2
PAOK  1


Live stream good quality:

http://www.rojadirecta.me/goto/micast.tv/gen5.php?ch=live5

[Lycaon]

I've watched a bit of Asteras vs Platanias and the weekend highlights on BTV. (Olympiacos is up next.)

God, this league is exactly like ours but with slightly worse football.

Boring as fuck, very poor pitches, empty stands and terrible ref decisions in every match.

[Faliro]

I've watched a bit of Asteras vs Platanias and the weekend highlights on BTV. (Olympiacos is up next.)

God, this league is exactly like ours but with slightly worse football.

Boring as fuck, very poor pitches, empty stands and terrible ref decisions in every match.

Exactly!!!!!!! 

You should have watched OFI vs PAOK though. Super game and great atmosphere/stadium. Always try and watch a game with PAOK, PAO, OSFP, AEK, Aris etc There is usually violence, drama and attacking football.

Asteras.... Platanias//// Kalloni....  empty... villages...

BTW:
OFI 3
PAOK 1

Huge humiliation for PAOK.

[Lycaon]

I'll watch a bit of Oly now.

Is it any kind of holiday in Greece today to have matches this early? Or is it the unemployment?

[Faliro]

The calender is a bit fucked up because a ref got beaten with a steal bar, a fan of a third division club was murdered in a stadium in Crete and there was a general election. The result was over 1 month of football lost and now they are trying to make up for it.

BTW this weekend is PAOK vs Olympiakos. That is a game I recommend for entertainment..  Don't know if Benfica TV will carry it..?

[Faliro]

PAOK coach resigned! Now we have to see if the PAOK owner accepts it.

BTW OFI only had 14 players left on its roster for the game! All the others left the club last month.

[Lycaon]

The calender is a bit fucked up because a ref got beaten with a steal bar, a fan of a third division club was murdered in a stadium in Crete and there was a general election. The result was over 1 month of football lost and now they are trying to make up for it.

BTW this weekend is PAOK vs Olympiakos. That is a game I recommend for entertainment..  Don't know if Benfica TV will carry it..?

Weekends are tough. BTV is carrying all the games they can today because there's nothing else. On weekends there's Benfica sports (basketball, futsal, handball, volley, hockey) and Premier League games and the Greek League rarely gets coverage because we only have two channels.

[Faliro]

Sa Pinto resigned and he is no longer coach of Atromitos.

He was under pressure the last few months. Again, like with Michel, this seems an overreaction. He was not doing badly and doesn't exactly have great players to work with like Panaitolikos and Asteras have.

http://www.sport24.gr/football/omades/Atromitos/paraiththhke-o-sa-pinto.3288081.html

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And... The coach of PAOK will probably stay as the owner Savvidis seems to have refused his resignation!

The fans really dislike this Russian/Greek owner now.. A supporter group called BELLOS from Neopoli stated publicly they have returned their tickets for the Olympiakos game this weekend. They will also not go to another game in the championship!