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Citação de: Faliro em 13 de Novembro de 2017, 19:02
Citação de: TFFS em 13 de Novembro de 2017, 18:40
Citação de: Faliro em 13 de Novembro de 2017, 17:50
Citação de: TFFS em 13 de Novembro de 2017, 17:48
Are the greek fans pleased with yesterday exibition?

Unbelievable, it was one of the most boring matches I've ever watched. A team that needs to win 3-0 and only is capable of shooting once at target...

51% are pleased
49% want him gone

http://www.sport-fm.gr/article/podosfairo/mundial/Poll-sportfm-gr-oriaka-uper-tis-paramonis-skimpe-stin-ethniki-o-kosmos/3476354

The media, players and other assorted idiots are all backing him.
Anyone who knows basic football wants him out.

I haven't missed an NT match since 2003. If Skibbe stays I am not going to bother watching anymore. Had enough of watching absolute scum like Tzavellas, Tziolis, Stafylidis, Maniatis, Bakasetas and Lazarus. They can't fucking even control the ball. They can't fucking even pass to feet. None of them are regulars at their clubs - Stafylidis hasn't played for his club 1 minute all season! The team plays like the Iraqi national team in the 1980s. Most the players look like they specialise in other sports - but put on the national football shirt thanks to their agents.
I would put Bakasetas in bold. He is awful. Makes me think that with the right connects I would be playing for Greece if I was born there. one of the worst players I've seen in a medium/high quality national team. And Zeca. What an average player.

Agree completely. It is all about having the right connections. Bakasetas is a tragic footballer. I remember a few years ago Samaras was once filmed playing in an amateur 5-a-side game. He looked lost. He was the NT's starting winger for years.
Samaras... And he still played for Celtic as a starter.

When Samaris came to Benfica, the first time that someone speaked of him being associated to Benfica, I became livid thinking and asking (that horrible guy from Celtic?) but then I realized it was the Olympiakos one and it was a real relief

Faliro

#1846
Johansson tore his front cruciate tonight against Italy - he will be out for 6 months. He is AEK's captain.

AEK's best player Mantalos - tore his ACL last week. Out for 6 months. He is perhaps the best 10 in Greece.

Don't see AEK recovering from this easily. They were perhaps favourites for this years title. Will be hard to replace these players.

In positive news their stadium is still continuing and you can see where the massive Byzantine pillars on each corner will be inserted at a depth of 8 meters. Stadium capacity is not fixed and it will be 31,800. Foundation work starts in two weeks.


Faliro

Citação de: TFFS em 13 de Novembro de 2017, 19:19
Citação de: Faliro em 13 de Novembro de 2017, 19:02
Citação de: TFFS em 13 de Novembro de 2017, 18:40
Citação de: Faliro em 13 de Novembro de 2017, 17:50
Citação de: TFFS em 13 de Novembro de 2017, 17:48
Are the greek fans pleased with yesterday exibition?

Unbelievable, it was one of the most boring matches I've ever watched. A team that needs to win 3-0 and only is capable of shooting once at target...

51% are pleased
49% want him gone

http://www.sport-fm.gr/article/podosfairo/mundial/Poll-sportfm-gr-oriaka-uper-tis-paramonis-skimpe-stin-ethniki-o-kosmos/3476354

The media, players and other assorted idiots are all backing him.
Anyone who knows basic football wants him out.

I haven't missed an NT match since 2003. If Skibbe stays I am not going to bother watching anymore. Had enough of watching absolute scum like Tzavellas, Tziolis, Stafylidis, Maniatis, Bakasetas and Lazarus. They can't fucking even control the ball. They can't fucking even pass to feet. None of them are regulars at their clubs - Stafylidis hasn't played for his club 1 minute all season! The team plays like the Iraqi national team in the 1980s. Most the players look like they specialise in other sports - but put on the national football shirt thanks to their agents.
I would put Bakasetas in bold. He is awful. Makes me think that with the right connects I would be playing for Greece if I was born there. one of the worst players I've seen in a medium/high quality national team. And Zeca. What an average player.

Agree completely. It is all about having the right connections. Bakasetas is a tragic footballer. I remember a few years ago Samaras was once filmed playing in an amateur 5-a-side game. He looked lost. He was the NT's starting winger for years.
Samaras... And he still played for Celtic as a starter.

When Samaris came to Benfica, the first time that someone speaked of him being associated to Benfica, I became livid thinking and asking (that horrible guy from Celtic?) but then I realized it was the Olympiakos one and it was a real relief

Yea Samaras was complete garbage. I feel like I am saying that a lot lately about Greek players, but so many are crap.

Samaras means 'saddle' - Samaris is just another variation. These guys ancestors made saddles? Fuck knows, they are crap at football.

Jotenko

#1848
It's fucking great to see international users being active over here.

About the lack of self respect, same thing could be said about the Portuguese, although that mindset has been changing lately.

Per example, when it comes to Portuguese products and industry, some years ago people were inclined to avoid Portuguese products in fear of lack of quality. Nowadays, Portuguese products equal quality and people are actually proud to see our products outshine international competition.

Same thing applies to football, we're afraid of no one now and feel our NT can win any team.

Still, there's a long way to go if we compare - for example - to Germany or the UK.

Faliro

The Portuguese are not stupid people. That is obvious. They work out how to move forward.
There is a spark there. When I meet a Greek who is smart - I feel like adopting them - they are so rare. How they have intellectually survived everything around them is fascinating.

Greeks are regressive for the most part. Self saboteurs. The Greeks of the revolution in the 1820s are a minority.

I am fucking tired of Greek NT football. The fucking Syriza Sports Minister came out today and said Skibbe has to stay as coach and was just 'unlucky.'  ::bater:: ::bater:: ::bater:: ::bater:: ::bater::

Greeks threw away everything that was achieved in 2004. We actually bizarrely and quite ingeniously managed to undo every single positive.   Said it enough on here. Greece is a beautiful country - seriously - the land is blessed. Naturally gorgeous place. The people? As Kazantzakis said - Greece needs to be lifted up - brush all the people into the see and start again.

Covenant

Citação de: Faliro em 13 de Novembro de 2017, 22:51
Johansson tore his front cruciate tonight against Italy - he will be out for 6 months. He is AEK's captain.

AEK's best player Mantalos - tore his ACL last week. Out for 6 months. He is perhaps the best 10 in Greece.

Don't see AEK recovering from this easily. They were perhaps favourites for this years title. Will be hard to replace these players.

In positive news their stadium is still continuing and you can see where the massive Byzantine pillars on each corner will be inserted at a depth of 8 meters. Stadium capacity is not fixed and it will be 31,800. Foundation work starts in two weeks.


They will need investiment in January I believe.

Maybe Patito can now show what he is capable of.

StellaRojas

Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Novembro de 2017, 14:29
The Portuguese are not stupid people. That is obvious. They work out how to move forward.
There is a spark there. When I meet a Greek who is smart - I feel like adopting them - they are so rare. How they have intellectually survived everything around them is fascinating.

Greeks are regressive for the most part. Self saboteurs. The Greeks of the revolution in the 1820s are a minority.

I am fucking tired of Greek NT football. The fucking Syriza Sports Minister came out today and said Skibbe has to stay as coach and was just 'unlucky.'  ::bater:: ::bater:: ::bater:: ::bater:: ::bater::

Greeks threw away everything that was achieved in 2004. We actually bizarrely and quite ingeniously managed to undo every single positive.   Said it enough on here. Greece is a beautiful country - seriously - the land is blessed. Naturally gorgeous place. The people? As Kazantzakis said - Greece needs to be lifted up - brush all the people into the see and start again.

Do not despair, Faliro! More optimism...

Nothing left! :cool2:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AzpHvLWFUM

Faliro

PAO 1
AEK 1

These games are always boring as shit. Highlight was manolo saluting the Leoforos on 83'


Faliro

Citação de: Covenant em 14 de Novembro de 2017, 14:47
Citação de: Faliro em 13 de Novembro de 2017, 22:51
Johansson tore his front cruciate tonight against Italy - he will be out for 6 months. He is AEK's captain.

AEK's best player Mantalos - tore his ACL last week. Out for 6 months. He is perhaps the best 10 in Greece.

Don't see AEK recovering from this easily. They were perhaps favourites for this years title. Will be hard to replace these players.

In positive news their stadium is still continuing and you can see where the massive Byzantine pillars on each corner will be inserted at a depth of 8 meters. Stadium capacity is not fixed and it will be 31,800. Foundation work starts in two weeks.


They will need investiment in January I believe.

Maybe Patito can now show what he is capable of.

Their team has been winded with the loss of those two starters. They need to open the purse in winter. Patito has been at the door for months. Not liked by the coaching staff.

Covenant

Patito still not not getting minutes, I see a departure in January.

Good for Olympiakos the draw between Panathinaikos and AEK.

Great game tomorrow, PAOK vs Atromitos.

StellaRojas

I'm wondering how could Ognjen Vranješ remain in Greece after his statements and promising " hell in Zenica", after that match in Greece. He is a complete disgrace. He had a tattoo with the map of Republic of Srpska on his hand, and had to re-do it ( into a watch) to be able to play for Bosnia and Herzegovina. He will never again play for Zvezda, that is for sure, fans will not allow that.

Covenant

Citação de: StellaRojas em 20 de Novembro de 2017, 00:23
I'm wondering how could Ognjen Vranješ remain in Greece after his statements and promising " hell in Zenica", after that match in Greece. He is a complete disgrace. He had a tattoo with the map of Republic of Srpska on his hand, and had to re-do it ( into a watch) to be able to play for Bosnia and Herzegovina. He will never again play for Zvezda, that is for sure, fans will not allow that.
What you think about the differents countrys that made Yugoslavia?

StellaRojas

#1857
Citação de: Covenant em 20 de Novembro de 2017, 01:05
Citação de: StellaRojas em 20 de Novembro de 2017, 00:23
I'm wondering how could Ognjen Vranješ remain in Greece after his statements and promising " hell in Zenica", after that match in Greece. He is a complete disgrace. He had a tattoo with the map of Republic of Srpska on his hand, and had to re-do it ( into a watch) to be able to play for Bosnia and Herzegovina. He will never again play for Zvezda, that is for sure, fans will not allow that.
What you think about the differents countrys that made Yugoslavia?

Haha, you are pulling my tongue...Indifferent attitude at best, hostile at worst. The reason why I mentioned Ognjen is not that Serbs who play for Bosnia and Herzegovina, can not play for Zvezda. But his case is unique, he spat on himself, in order to jumpstart his career by playing for any NT- he would have played for the national team of ISIS too, I guess. That is why he is not even welcome in his hometown of Banjaluka. So he can forget about Zvezda forever.

Covenant

Oh, but I really want to know your feelings about Croatia, Bósnia, Kosovo, etc...

StellaRojas

Citação de: Covenant em 20 de Novembro de 2017, 10:21
Oh, but I really want to know your feelings about Croatia, Bósnia, Kosovo, etc...

Not sure if this is the right topic....For one thing, I ( we) do not recognize Kosovo. It is a failed narco quasi-state.

As for those ex-Yugoslav states, they chose to be " independent", bought into the fairy tales of their nationalist " elites" and ravaged Yugoslavia. So they should not complain because they are now fully dysfunctional ( like Bosnia) or pushed to the European periphery, like Croatia, or about to be run over by Albanians like the FYROM.