Europa League: Benfica - Juventus

[L3GEND]

I'm sorry Lucypher, you as i believe most of Juventus fans, of course doesn't have fault for the reputation of your club.

Juventus could be known for many good things or players you had in the past... but it's undeniable that your club (at least) was, corrupt.We, Benfica fans, for the past 20+ years have been fighting againts an incredible Corrupt club and President (of Porto), so we are more "sensetive" to this things. And thats why you won't hear many good things about Juventus from our fans.

And than there's Platini and UEFA, who everyone hates, wich happens to be a Juventus fan... its too much!

But again, you and the fans don't have fault.

sure about it? you know why and how court arrived to the decision? did you study the trial acts? just becaus cows say so? what do you know about italy and what's happening here the last years? you insult juventus just because of what turin fans say, it's like hating jewish people because of what nazi used to state...
this is guilty superficiality and it's a good reason to hope you to lose...

platini was a juventus player but he's a politician...he loves us so much that we had to play in the turkish mud....

lost time, Lucypehr ...

I have often asked those who argued that the juventus steals in retrospect not accuse without knowledge ... but some (not all of course) the answer is always the same: "Everyone says that the juve steals" .

Juventus isn't the only one guilty in the Calciocaos thing, i tell you that much.

For example, this three last Seria A's that you won (this year you will eventually win), you were by very, very far the best team and deserved completely to win.

[Vitor84]

I am pretty certain that Juve steals. But I also know that other Italian teams steal, like Milan, Inter, Fiorentina, Roma, etc. It's part of Italian football culture in particular and Southern European culture as a whole. It's nothing new.

Again, I don't have anything personal against Juve. From among the big three in Italy, it was the one I actually sympathised with the most. But in this tie, they showed lack of class and unsportmanship. Sure, it will all be pretty much forgotten in a few months time anyway. No need to get too hung up about it.

By the way, thanks for your kind words, Juventino. You're a good fellow.

My opinion is similar.
I think for myself, I don't believe in everything that the other italians anti-juve say. Because I know very well the style of "antis".
I just didn't like that stupid behavior of some juventinos and your coach after the game. I know how hard it is when you lose, but is in that times when you see how good is your club.
Last year we lose everything at 92 minute, as maybe all of you know. But after amsterdam a lot of benfiquistas was in airport supporting the team. This year we were there again, and we will be after the final for sure with any result that happen in that final.

[cavpacores]

I am pretty certain that Juve steals. But I also know that other Italian teams steal, like Milan, Inter, Fiorentina, Roma, etc. It's part of Italian football culture in particular and Southern European culture as a whole. It's nothing new.

Again, I don't have anything personal against Juve. From among the big three in Italy, it was the one I actually sympathised with the most. But in this tie, they showed lack of class and unsportmanship. Sure, it will all be pretty much forgotten in a few months time anyway. No need to get too hung up about it.

By the way, thanks for your kind words, Juventino. You're a good fellow.

Thank you.
But I can not forget that ever since I came to this topic fans of the "Bull" or Inter ... many of you have followed them and you are left free to go to insults against juve ...

anyway ... I appreciate those who wanted to discuss with me without any prejudice

You have to interpret that in the context of the stage and the actions taken by your club

Despite that most of us tried to make you welcome here

For me, you (Juventus) have a problem.

You didn´t understand yet that is not all about having great players

And you can not be so dependent of Pirlo. It´s predictible

I think you need good Wingers and maybe modify your tactics

[Godescalco]

Thank you.
But I can not forget that ever since I came to this topic fans of the "Bull" or Inter ... many of you have followed them and you are left free to go to insults against juve ...

anyway ... I appreciate those who wanted to discuss with me without any prejudice

I understand your frustration but this is just part of online interactions. Here you are, at a foreign club's forum, and you read insults to your team. I understand that you're between a rock and a hard place and I do admire your calm behaviour.

In any case, you must remember that fans come in all colours and shapes and that Juventus' attitude during this tie didn't quite help to show another image of the club in the eyes of most our fans.

Furthermore, if you add to that a historical friendly relationship with Torino, your city rival, and it becomes even worse. But I do believe that once everything calms down, it's quite possible to keep interacting with civility and respect.

As I said before, Juventino, in a few months time most people won't even remember these provocations.

[cavpacores]

Strong butthurt detected.

benfica is a very good team and deserves the final....maybe benfiquista fans dont deserve it that much...

What?

You should be ashamed of yourself for defendig a club without honour and fairplay
If you mess wih the bull...

what you know about it? what cows say? many people say not too well about portuguese people, do i have to believe it? come on

Well, I known what I saw

The arrogancy shown by your players

The incredible denial to Benfica show the banner honouring Superga

The feeling of provocation because our fans did it anyway

The complaint trying to punish Enzo when Chiellini also shoves Maxi Pereira and a penalty was denied to us

The unbeliaveble words of Conte yestarday

The provocations to our bench and players

Nothing to do with TOrino...

Just what it was visible or do you denied that this happened?

LUcypher...expecting the answer!!

[Jotenko]

CONGRATULATIONS GUYS ...
I HOPE you win THE CUP 

I hoped until the last second in one of our goals, nothing ... Benfica has held up very well.

You're such a character. Please, stay in the forum, don't leave. )

[cavpacores]

CONGRATULATIONS GUYS ...
I HOPE you win THE CUP 

I hoped until the last second in one of our goals, nothing ... Benfica has held up very well.

You're such a character. Please, stay in the forum, don't leave. )

Showing the love!!

[lucypher]

Strong butthurt detected.

benfica is a very good team and deserves the final....maybe benfiquista fans dont deserve it that much...

What?

You should be ashamed of yourself for defendig a club without honour and fairplay
If you mess wih the bull...

what you know about it? what cows say? many people say not too well about portuguese people, do i have to believe it? come on

Well, I known what I saw

The arrogancy shown by your players

The incredible denial to Benfica show the banner honouring Superga

The feeling of provocation because our fans did it anyway

The complaint trying to punish Enzo when Chiellini also shoves Maxi Pereira and a penalty was denied to us

The unbeliaveble words of Conte yestarday

The provocations to our bench and players

Nothing to do with TOrino...

Just what it was visible or do you denied that this happened?

LUcypher...expecting the answer!!

well, i think that since the drawing day there's been a lot of tension...
the arrogancy shown by a couple of our players
benfica's release about platini and the favours he was supposed to give us...
tension increased by the fact that torino fans are our worse enemies and you are their friend (many people who went to see the match read or know about the things written in this forum about maia or corruption)
about enzo perez...tv proof is a legal process...we had players disqualified too
conte...well i didnt like his excuses too, even if he did it to keep players unresposible and calm...
provocations? i know there's been an argument between vucinic and markovic, maybe something etnic
your attitude, the last 20 minutes, didnt help.... every player of yours falling down to the ground, but garay of course, looked like hit by a thunder...
i think there's been a lot of tension...but it's a football thing, nothing to do with corruption or mafia... i cant wait to see atletico-real 

[lucypher]

I am pretty certain that Juve steals. But I also know that other Italian teams steal, like Milan, Inter, Fiorentina, Roma, etc. It's part of Italian football culture in particular and Southern European culture as a whole. It's nothing new.

Again, I don't have anything personal against Juve. From among the big three in Italy, it was the one I actually sympathised with the most. But in this tie, they showed lack of class and unsportmanship. Sure, it will all be pretty much forgotten in a few months time anyway. No need to get too hung up about it.

By the way, thanks for your kind words, Juventino. You're a good fellow.

Thank you.
But I can not forget that ever since I came to this topic fans of the "Bull" or Inter ... many of you have followed them and you are left free to go to insults against juve ...

anyway ... I appreciate those who wanted to discuss with me without any prejudice

You have to interpret that in the context of the stage and the actions taken by your club

Despite that most of us tried to make you welcome here

For me, you (Juventus) have a problem.

You didn´t understand yet that is not all about having great players

And you can not be so dependent of Pirlo. It´s predictible

I think you need good Wingers and maybe modify your tactics

this is fully sharable but until we win, 3 in a row it's a lot in italy, and 'til pirlo is alive i dont think conte will change so much... but if you wanna give us gaitan and salvio maybe we can make conte change 

[cipri_slb]

I can not have respect for a club that reminds me FC Porto...
The cry of the coach, the complaints of  form to upset and lose your bad.
Any resemblance is purely coincidental

[cipri_slb]

We were robbed in the first game, kept silent and did our part.

[Vitor84]

I hate prejudices and stereotypes, in this case when I saw some users with connection italian-mafia and corruption I feel ashamed, but I want to believe that is something that this guys just said with that tension of the game and don't really feel it.

[lucypher]

I can not have respect for a club that reminds me FC Porto...
The cry of the coach, the complaints of  form to upset and lose your bad.
Any resemblance is purely coincidental

and your crying after the drawing day about platini and his supposed favours? your shameful waste of time the last 20 minutes yesterday?
it's all about football baby and the tension of a semifinal...if referee was our "friend" he had to give us a penalty for a hand foul, he didnt and he did well cause it wasnt crystal clear...

[Vitor84]

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provocations? i know there's been an argument between vucinic and markovic, maybe something etnic
[...]

There was nothing between Vucinic and Markovic: http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Serie-A/Juventus/02-05-2014/juventus-vucinic-lite-era-artur-markovic-non-c-entrava-nulla-80561348837.shtml
It's unfair for Markovic, who is friend of Vucinic and just try to calm him down, and now will lose the final.

[RubbaDub]

To all the Juventus fans here:

What started the problems and bad mouthing, was the comments of your team players, and your idiot coach last night, and of course, a desperate attempt to kick one of our best players out of the decisive game.

Still, you are going to win the Championish, you are a strong team, and our game was the most intense and passionate semi-finals this year.

To all the nice Juventus fans here, i know how bad it must feel to lose a Final in your home, so cheer up, and don´t feel teased by some comments.