Portuguese culture

[RodriE]

So this Ricardo refuge was old lover and his new one (fairly new) is the Moroccan guy?

It´s probably a three way.

[Covenant]

So this Ricardo refuge was old lover and his new one (fairly new) is the Moroccan guy?

Maybe they like three way.

[Faliro]

I wonder if Ronaldo is a receiver or a giver..

[RodriE]

I wonder if Ronaldo is a receiver or a giver..

I think you know the answer... 

[misticaslb]

I wonder if Ronaldo is a receiver or a giver..

By the way he opens his legs all the time, I'd say he probably can't close them for some reason.

[BenfiquistaRSA]

Fdx...

Culure?

A bica with aguardente
Newspaper at a cafe
Beer and francesinha
Pasteis de nata from the bakery
Football teams running in families
Bacalhau dishes
Pork dishes
Red wine
White wine
Green wine
Port wine
Madeira wine
Fado

But the most important

BENFICA!

[Faliro]

Fdx...

Culure?

A bica with aguardente
Newspaper at a cafe
Beer and francesinha
Pasteis de nata from the bakery
Football teams running in families
Bacalhau dishes
Pork dishes
Red wine
White wine
Green wine
Port wine
Madeira wine
Fado

But the most important

BENFICA!

[BenfiquistaRSA]

 

yup, called vinho verde, literally translates to green wine..

It refers to wine made from young grapes, giving the wine a distinctive fresh quality.

My Patria can correct me if I am wrong, but it is quite popular in the Alentejo region if im not mistaken

[Cloughie]

yup, called vinho verde, literally translates to green wine..

It refers to wine made from young grapes, giving the wine a distinctive fresh quality.

My Patria can correct me if I am wrong, but it is quite popular in the Alentejo region if im not mistaken

Up in the North, in Minho region, there is a strong tradition too.

[Godescalco]

Young wine.

Young women.

That's Portugal.

[Irimiás]

Speaking of wine, just finished reading The Symposium from Plato. Here's a funny event taken from it:

'Agathon, get someone to bring me a really big cup, if you have one. No, there is no need. Boy, bring me that wine-cooler there', he ordered, seeing that it held more than eight cotylae. Having had this filled, Alcibiades first drained it himself, then told them to fill it again for Socrates.

Note 1: A cotylae apparently is half a pint, or a quarter of a litre, so basically this guy shoved down two litre of wine like bottoms up.

Note 2: He was already drunk when he arrived to the party.

Greeks...

[Faliro]

Alcibiades - a man supposed to be the epitome of Athenian ambition, logic and culture.. who ended up single handedly destroying Athens. Not enough is made of this man..

One of my favourite pieces to survive ancient Greece getting back to wine!

In a fragment from his c. 375 BC play Semele or Dionysus, Eubulus has the god of wine Dionysos describe proper and improper drinking:

For sensible men I prepare only three kraters: one for health (which they drink first), the second for love and pleasure, and the third for sleep. After the third one is drained, wise men go home. The fourth krater is not mine any more - it belongs to bad behaviour; the fifth is for shouting; the sixth is for rudeness and insults; the seventh is for fights; the eighth is for breaking the furniture; the ninth is for depression; the tenth is for madness and unconsciousness.

[Covenant]

Young wine.

Young women.

That's Portugal.

And young kids.

That's Casa Pia.

[Irimiás]

Faliro, that's very interesting, it's actually one of the finest descriptions I've read of the progression of common men's demeanour during intoxication.

Still about Alcibiades, first thing he says after settling down, having initially arrived at Agathon's house in typical drunken pomp, is:

'Well now, gentlemen, you seem to me to be quite sober. This must not be allowed;'

He also quotes a proverb from back then, saying "Truth is revealed by wine and children", though he specifically tells them to "never mind the bit about children".

What an amusing character, though still not as hilarious as Aristophanes!

[Faliro]

Alcibiades was perhaps the reason Greece fell apart. It also taught the Athenians something was fundamentally wrong with their system. Before Alcibiades went AWOL, he was the definition of what Athens was and wished to be. Educated privately by Socrates, strong, clever, wealthy, tactically astute in military matters and attractive to the point that he literally seduce almost anyone he came into contact with. However without his existence, Athens would have not lost the Peloponnesian War as quickly if at all. He was absolutely wild in ethics.

As for his drinking - Greeks in general took this to access at the time. The Macedonians barely diluted their wine at all - perhaps a dangerous habit adopted from Scythian culture. It is known Alexander the Great and most his close companions were abusive alcoholics - with a few 'parties' ending in murder - like the disgraceful death of Cleitus.

Getting completely shit-faced by alcohol was very common in those times. Perhaps the most famous story is the first recorded death due to alcohol abuse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elpenor