Hellas futebol

[Faliro]

Their former owner (who they won the league with), waited for them to be relagated to the 3rd division due to debt punishment and then bought them. He is a billionaire and he is the one that started the process of rebuilding a modern stadium on the historic site:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimitris_Melissanidis

The stadium plans means that it will be one of the most unique stadiums in Europe, although on the small side due to restricted space (32,000):

[Jotenko]

What's best about Greece isn't football. It's philosophy.

[kneissl]

Greek women's too

[Jotenko]

What's best about Greece isn't football. It's philosophy.

Faliro, are you a thinker?

[Faliro]

Too much

[Jotenko]

Too much

What do you think about most?

[Faliro]

Money, women, time remaining, career, football, cars...

then food, meaning of life, clothes etc

[Jotenko]

Money, women, time remaining, career, football, cars...

then food, meaning of life, clothes etc

Time remaining? Ha!!!

Do you believe in God?

[Faliro]

No I am not religious.  I believe as Zorba said, when we die, we are worm food.

[Jotenko]

No I am not religious.  I believe as Zorba said, when we die, we are worm food.

Then, what's the point of living? What's the point of supporting Olympiacos, if there is no eternal glory?

In that case you must feel really ridiculous right?

Why don't you sit in a chair and wait for the death to come?

[Faliro]

Just because there is no afterlife contrary to what the desert religions preach - (Islam, Christianity and Judaism), doesn't mean there is no fun to have on earth.

[Jotenko]

Just because there is no afterlife contrary to what the desert religions preach - (Islam, Christianity and Judaism), doesn't mean there is no fun to have on earth.

But that sounds rather small. Having fun just for the sake of it? That's stupid. It will end anyway.

If you distance yourself from the line that is Time, between the beggining and end of the Universe, you will see only a dot.

That seems rather strange and odd. The creation makes no sense in that case.

[Faliro]

Well we don't have all the answers yet and that is something every non religious person has to come to terms with.

Also there is nothing wrong in searching for pleasure, the ancients had no sensational afterlife to look forward to, but they still managed to have fun.

I find it weirder that Christians, Muslims and Jews worship a desert God that tells his creations that we are born sinners and unless we apologize, we will burn in Hell. But I suppose we live with banks and charges (Gas, electric, council tax), so we accept punishment is part and parcel of life..

[Jotenko]

Well we don't have all the answers yet and that is something every non religious person has to come to terms with.

Also there is nothing wrong in searching for pleasure, the ancients had no sensational afterlife to look forward to, but they still managed to have fun.

I find it weirder that Christians, Muslims and Jews worship a desert God that tells his creations that we are born sinners and unless we apologize, we will burn in Hell. But I suppose we live with banks and charges (Gas, electric, council tax), so we accept punishment is part and parcel of life..

Why are you talking about religions all the time? Couldn't it be that we are a product of a palpable creation plan?

[Faliro]

Well I am talking about religion because you are talking about meaning of life without religion or belief in a 'plan.'

We all lived our lives knowing the difference between right and wrong before the emergence of the desert religions.