Hellas futebol

[T1n0_SLB]

keep this on topic people. You have  Seria A thread.

[Godescalco]

keep this on topic people. You have  Seria A thread.

There are just too many rebels here.

I'm afraid it's hard to maintain order.

[Red.Fever]

keep this on topic people. You have  Seria A thread.

There are just too many rebels here.

I'm afraid it's hard to maintain order.

[Godescalco]

We're all κλέφτες and Αρματολοί here.

Faliro will understand the reference.

[Faliro]

Hahaha ^^ 

Look T1no, since I have come here I have learnt much about what porto has done to portuguese football. What has happened in greece is not comparable.

Take a look at AEK. Huge club winning the league for fun in 92,93,94... What do they do? How does Olympiakos sabotage their success? AEK decide to demolish their own historical stadium because it has damage from previous earthquakes.. and then state they don't have the money to rebuild it... Their previous owner who brought the success, Mellisanidis - a billionaire gangstar... sells his 'beloved' club to ENIC - an English investment company that spends less than an Orthodox Jewish guy at christmas.. the club fades and fades fast.. then what? After much pain and anguish, AEK get another owner Makis Psomidis - an actual mafia guy who was sentenced to 10 years last month for embezzlement, conspiracy and money-laundering - stealing from AEK over €21 million in the process. He is known for decades in Greece as Big Mac and is famous for match fixing also:



So AEK went bankrupt after all these scandals and what do they do? Buy Rivaldo, Scocco and other players getting further into debt..finally they are put in the 3rd league after being relegated and insolvent. Their 'fans' - original 21...made sure to smash every stadium of every other team before they were relegated.

So now who buys them for €1.. Melissanidis:



..one of the richest men in Europe. The man who sold AEK to ENIC in the first place..  They have been begging him for over 15 years to rescue them..he would attend games.. he was only interested when he could get them for free and that is exactly what he did... He will now build them the best stadium in Greece and fill the team with good players..but....

who is at fault for the demise of AEK, one of the most beloved clubs of Greece? AEK is at fault. PAO will tell you everything wrong with Greek football is because of Olympiakos, but it is simply not true.

Also AEK Basket will be playing in the OPAP top league next season, after promotion. As an Olympiakos fan, I always fear AEK more than PAO because PAO pressure referees to win games, AEK simply build attacking teams to win.

As for PAO vs Olympiakos in Europe. I believe Olympiakos has now won more games in Europe than PAO. Basketball is another matter.. PAO are ahead there.

[H]

Great post Faliro, didn't know the story of AEK like that.

[T1n0_SLB]

So, what do you have to say about tha league in 2007?

And about your stadium?

[Faliro]

I think you mean 2008? When Apollon fielded an illegal player against Olympiakos and we were given the 'win' and 3 points for the game after a ruling? Those are the rules and always have been. If a team fields an illegal player, the game (3 points) is given to opposing team. Yes, it meant AEK missed out on the league, but those are the rules and they were not changed or altered to suit Olympiakos. In fact Apollon were warned about this player, but played him anyway.

As for the Olympiakos stadium, what do you want to know?

[Covenant]

The stadium in Votanikos or something for PAO will be made?

[Faliro]

Votanikos will not happen. Babis Vovos who was building the mall which was part of it, is bankrupt. Also the nasty owner of PAO, Alafouzos has dismissed the idea.

A group connected with PAO (PAN.KI - Panathinaikos Movement) gave plans for a demolition and rebuild of Leoforos some months ago (Leoforos stadium is actually is owned by the state btw, not PAO, but they don't mention that often..). This was their plan (44,000 seater) and I must admit it was quite spectacular - would easily be the most impressive stadium in the Balkans:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5kTpPlaVlE

However, these plans have been dismissed because they will need to knock down a few buildings next to Leoforos which will be costly (PAO's owner spends no money) and difficult (some apartments and a school would have to be relocated)..

So finally their cheap ass owner has decided to upgrade Leoforos last month, from 15,000 to 22,000 seats... what was even more pathetic was the plans seemed to be the most amateur ever released to the Greek press..embarrassing.. I am sure somehow they will blame Olympiakos for these plans...somehow.. Here they are:

[Festivus]

 Why does PAO remind me of the Boston Celtics?

[Godescalco]

Why does PAO remind me of the Boston Celtics?

It's also green and has a clover for symbol.

[Covenant]

The stadium in the videos was the best can happen to PAO. But seems like they never make good ideas in reality.

[Faliro]

PAO just talk...

[Schweisen Tiger]

That project looks like Celtic Glasgow's Celtic Park.