Welcome to all bianconeri.
I opened this thread in order to facilitate further discussion regarding the european tie. This way both sets of fans can express themselves in proper english and the discussion will hopefully be more peaceful than that taking place in the general area of the forum. :)
Expectations, worries, domestic campaigns, squad analysis, historical moments, all of that in here. No trash talk.
Your league has 16 teams, if I'm not mistaken ... is it?
Yea, the number will be increased in the near future in order to include Boavista in the first division. But 16 currently.
If everything goes accordingly, we'll be portuguese champions in the 20 of April and from there on we can start rotating players in the portuguese league. We need two more victories (tomorrow and next week) or one victory and a Sporting slip (with a bith of luck, we can be crowned champions tomorrow).
Either way, most probable scenario is we start using our strongest 11 in the Europa League when we face you guys. Until this moment, we are using 5/6 backup players per game. Jorge Jesus doesn't want to lose the national title once more.
There is sporting rivalry between Benfica and Sporting Lisbon?
I have read in this forum (for some users) are celebrating the same way both Sporting and Benfica.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 12 de Abril de 2014, 16:19
There is sporting rivalry between Benfica and Sporting Lisbon?
I have read in this forum (for some users) are celebrating the same way both Sporting and Benfica.
Yes, there is. Currently our strongest rivalry is with Porto, but we usually describe Sporting as rivals and Porto as enemies. Sporting is our historic rival and opponent in the local derby.
Regarding the second sentence, care to elaborate? Didn't understand it.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 12 de Abril de 2014, 16:19
There is sporting rivalry between Benfica and Sporting Lisbon?
I have read in this forum (for some users) are celebrating the same way both Sporting and Benfica.
You got it wrong. That is probably the biggest rivalry in this country. It definitely is the oldest.
Citação de: Darkboy em 12 de Abril de 2014, 16:17
Yea, the number will be increased in the near future in order to include Boavista in the first division. But 16 currently.
If everything goes accordingly, we'll be portuguese champions in the 20 of April and from there on we can start rotating players in the portuguese league. We need two more victories (tomorrow and next week) or one victory and a Sporting slip (with a bith of luck, we can be crowned champions tomorrow).
Either way, most probable scenario is we start using our strongest 11 in the Europa League when we face you guys. Until this moment, we are using 5/6 backup players per game. Jorge Jesus doesn't want to lose the national title once more.
best for Portugal if the league is left with 16 teams.
In Italy, the league to 20 teams is not manageable: too many midweek games, little rest for the teams involved in Europe.
We complain of poor results in Europe, but then did not diminish teams in the league.
Benfica and Juventus are in the same situation: We'll get to April 24 with almost mathematical championship win.
Even Conte, does not give the title :)
Citação de: Darkboy em 12 de Abril de 2014, 16:21
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 12 de Abril de 2014, 16:19
There is sporting rivalry between Benfica and Sporting Lisbon?
I have read in this forum (for some users) are celebrating the same way both Sporting and Benfica.
Yes, there is. Currently our strongest rivalry is with Porto, but we usually describe Sporting as rivals and Porto as enemies. Sporting is our historic rival and opponent in the local derby.
Regarding the second sentence, care to elaborate? Didn't understand it.
I have read that some users in this forum are also sporting fans, I misunderstood?
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 12 de Abril de 2014, 16:25
Citação de: Darkboy em 12 de Abril de 2014, 16:17
Yea, the number will be increased in the near future in order to include Boavista in the first division. But 16 currently.
If everything goes accordingly, we'll be portuguese champions in the 20 of April and from there on we can start rotating players in the portuguese league. We need two more victories (tomorrow and next week) or one victory and a Sporting slip (with a bith of luck, we can be crowned champions tomorrow).
Either way, most probable scenario is we start using our strongest 11 in the Europa League when we face you guys. Until this moment, we are using 5/6 backup players per game. Jorge Jesus doesn't want to lose the national title once more.
best for Portugal if the league is left with 16 teams.
In Italy, the league to 20 teams is not manageable: too many midweek games, little rest for the teams involved in Europe.
We complain of poor results in Europe, but then did not diminish teams in the league.
Benfica and Juventus are in the same situation: We'll get to April 24 with almost mathematical championship win.
Even Conte, does not give the title :)
Most people agree that would be better if it remained like it is now. It is just to let Boavista in.
If we win our next 2 games (shoudn't be too hard) we will already be champions when we play against Juventus.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 12 de Abril de 2014, 16:29
Citação de: Darkboy em 12 de Abril de 2014, 16:21
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 12 de Abril de 2014, 16:19
There is sporting rivalry between Benfica and Sporting Lisbon?
I have read in this forum (for some users) are celebrating the same way both Sporting and Benfica.
Yes, there is. Currently our strongest rivalry is with Porto, but we usually describe Sporting as rivals and Porto as enemies. Sporting is our historic rival and opponent in the local derby.
Regarding the second sentence, care to elaborate? Didn't understand it.
I have read that some users in this forum are also sporting fans, I misunderstood?
Be Benfica and Sporting fan is like being AC Milan & Inter fan. Its incompatible.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 12 de Abril de 2014, 16:29
Citação de: Darkboy em 12 de Abril de 2014, 16:21
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 12 de Abril de 2014, 16:19
There is sporting rivalry between Benfica and Sporting Lisbon?
I have read in this forum (for some users) are celebrating the same way both Sporting and Benfica.
Yes, there is. Currently our strongest rivalry is with Porto, but we usually describe Sporting as rivals and Porto as enemies. Sporting is our historic rival and opponent in the local derby.
Regarding the second sentence, care to elaborate? Didn't understand it.
I have read that some users in this forum are also sporting fans, I misunderstood?
Yes, they would automatically be kicked out if they said something like that.
I agree with you, It will be a terrible move to increase the number of clubs competing in the first division. Benfica and Porto benefit a great deal by resting their players a little more often than some other european sides.
And yea, you understood incorrectly. Sporting fans in serbenfiquista, only as undercover agents. ;D They are often found and banned. No love between both sets of fans.
Btw, talking about local rivalries, how's Torino doing? Many Benfica fans like Torino. I guess we feel a bit responsible for Superga as well... :disgust: Is there still any animosity between Juventus and Torino, being the current goals of both clubs so different?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKlXcPJO-7Y (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKlXcPJO-7Y)
Citação de: Karel_Poborský em 12 de Abril de 2014, 16:22
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 12 de Abril de 2014, 16:19
There is sporting rivalry between Benfica and Sporting Lisbon?
I have read in this forum (for some users) are celebrating the same way both Sporting and Benfica.
You got it wrong. That is probably the biggest rivalry in this country. It definitely is the oldest.
:2funny:
ok ...
la nostra rivale in italia è l'inter, il Milan, la Roma ecc. ecc....
come si dice, "Molti nemici, molto onore" :metal:
il derby col torino è importante solo nel Piemonte
sorry ... i wrote in italian :2funny:
ok ...
our rival in Italy is the Inter, Milan, Roma, etc.. etc. ....
as they say, "Many enemies, much honor": metal:
the derby with turin is important only in the Piedmont
What prospects do you have for the world cup in brazil?
think that Portugal can get to the semifinals?
Benfica have something in common with Juve. Have a lot of people that support the club, the majority in the country, but who didn't support normally hate us.
For example last year Sporting had the worst season ever in them history, but in the end we saw a lot of sporting fans happy and celebrating because Benfica lose.
Citação de: Vitor84 em 12 de Abril de 2014, 17:03
Benfica have something in common with Juve. Have a lot of people that support the club, the majority in the country, but who didn't support normally hate us.
For example last year Sporting had the worst season ever in them history, but in the end we saw a lot of sporting fans happy and celebrating because Benfica lose.
I understand you, my friend
after our ascent in Serie A, the juventus had become sympathetic ... but needed just two league titles in a row (almost three) and went back unpleasant :2funny:
think that the year in which the juve played in Serie B there was a decline of interest in the Series A :2funny:
Welcome, Juventino.
Firstly, and as i've said on the other thread, the first player (outside Benfica of course) that i've really admired, was the one and only Roberto Baggio. Great great player! :bow2:
Secondly, and regarding our next tie, i think it's hard to designate any favorites. Juve has good players as always, but i don't think this present team it's above Benfica. Sure, we dont' have Pirlo or Buffon, but generally speaking, both teams are pretty much at the same level.
I think the first leg will be crucial. Benfica is very strong at home, not only in domestic competions, but also in Europe. If we play our normal game, it'll be very hard for your team to stop us. Additionally, we have one of the better crowds in the world. You'll see that, i'm sure.
I'd hope we would meet in the final, since both our clubs are historic european teams. But since that isn't the case, i hope we have a great semi final, with the better team going through. Hopefully, Benfica. :)
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 12 de Abril de 2014, 17:17
Citação de: Vitor84 em 12 de Abril de 2014, 17:03
Benfica have something in common with Juve. Have a lot of people that support the club, the majority in the country, but who didn't support normally hate us.
For example last year Sporting had the worst season ever in them history, but in the end we saw a lot of sporting fans happy and celebrating because Benfica lose.
I understand you, my friend
after our ascent in Serie A, the juventus had become sympathetic ... but needed just two league titles in a row (almost three) and went back unpleasant :2funny:
think that the year in which the juve played in Serie B there was a decline of interest in the Series A :2funny:
I guess if Benfica were relegate to Orangina league (our Serie B) our league would collapse.
In Basketball we decided to go to second division in protest for the corruption and the league collapsed in one year.
As Latins we live Benfica almost like there's anything left in life and Benfica fans are a large majority in all our national territory except for Oporto, but even there we have many, many, many fans. It's completely insane.
Good thing we face Juventus in the semis. If we met in the final, I think both teams would find way to lose the final. Europe's cursed ones...
Btw, welcome to our forum! It's much better and easier to talk in the English Board instead of the Main Board, it would create sloppy discussions and just plain unnecessary trash talk.
Also, I don't get why some of the Benfica fans are so offended by Pirlo's enterview. It was just a friendly display of confidence but also respect. It was put out of context by portuguese media, as usual.
I respect Juve's history and in general as a club. But I feel sorry for some incidents that took place in italian football (not only in Juve, of course). Anyway there's no real reason to discuss it now, but Benfica has suffered from almost 30 years of corruption in Portuguese football, involving clubs, referees, media, politicians and people working in every organ responsible for portuguese football, working together to achieve one sole purpose, so don't feel bad if some Benfica fans are unpleasant and hostil towards Juventus. They don't hate Juve, they hate the number of trophys that were stolen from us, and european media decieved us into associating Juventus with corruption.
Anyway, if you guys need any information on how to get to the stadium or how to deal with transportation when you get to Lisbon for the first leg, just ask and we'll certainly help you.
If think Pirlo was disrespectful. But, ok... It was good for us.
Silvio is out so Maxi will be a starter playing as right leftback. He and Fejsa commit a lot of faults so I hope we don't concieve Pirlo a free kick close to our goal. He's just superb and that would be a major threat to us, specially if Jesus continues to go with Artur as our Europa League goalkeeper. There's still some naive hopes in me that tell me he's gonna go with Oblak in the remaining european games and in the Portugues Cup semifinal match against Porto.
I would go with something like this for the home game:
Oblak
Luisão Garay
Maxi Siqueira
Fejsa
Enzo
Salvio Gaitán
Markovic
Rodrigo
Not sure Jesus is willing to abdicate Lima but we'll see.
JUVENTINO, what would you say it's your weakest point?
No way... We won't play like that.
welcome to all Juve fans :)
Citação de: pcssousa em 12 de Abril de 2014, 20:43
No way... We won't play like that.
that's how we've been playing all along, I seriously doubt our master mind, Jesus, will change just for one game.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 12 de Abril de 2014, 17:01
What prospects do you have for the world cup in brazil?
think that Portugal can get to the semifinals?
meh, it's gonna be though, I'm not expecting much
my only hope is that CR7 goes crazy and starts soloing everyone.
Citação de: Red.Fever em 12 de Abril de 2014, 21:03
Citação de: pcssousa em 12 de Abril de 2014, 20:43
No way... We won't play like that.
that's how we've been playing all along, I seriously doubt our master mind, Jesus, will change just for one game.
That's not how we've been playing... I don't think Benfica ever played with Salvio, Markovic and Gaitán at the same time, certainly not with Markovic doing Lima's role. That's why I have to agree wit pcssousa, the lineup I posted is highly unlikely.
Citação de: Pedro Marques em 12 de Abril de 2014, 21:08
Citação de: Red.Fever em 12 de Abril de 2014, 21:03
Citação de: pcssousa em 12 de Abril de 2014, 20:43
No way... We won't play like that.
that's how we've been playing all along, I seriously doubt our master mind, Jesus, will change just for one game.
That's not how we've been playing... I don't think Benfica ever played with Salvio, Markovic and Gaitán at the same time, certainly not with Markovic doing Lima's role. That's why I have to agree wit pcssousa, the lineup I posted is highly unlikely.
oh, I was talking about the tactic
and about the players you even said that Lima must be playing in place of Marko (which is more likely to happen)
that's the only thing really, rest must be close of what Jesus going to do
I personally would play Rodrigo and Lima up front.... between Marko and Salvio would see who's in better shape before the match.... Salvio is starting to pick up
EDIT: forgot about Artur ;D
also hope Oblak plays
Welcome Juventino,
I have nothing against Juventus. I am not a fan of any club apart from Benfica, even though I love to watch football and know more about the history of clubs like Juventus.
I am not sure about the scandal that you went through so I will not make any comments about it. I just want to wish you the best and I hope you visit our stadium soon.
Just one more thing, I did not appreciate Pirlo comments.
Pirlo said dat because he thinks he gonna win this shit with his awesome freekicks
well, Pirlo, you haven't seen our secret weapons in action
Gaitán and Cardozo can do et too trololol
maybe not as often, but stiiiiiiiiill, we got them hopes real high bro
Welcome Juventino :)
Yeah. If anyone finds Juventus users trying to engage in nice conversations and learning more about our club, send them here.
There are a lot of idiots on the internet, and our more general boards are no exception.
Citação de: Fever em 12 de Abril de 2014, 22:44
Welcome Juventino :)
Yeah. If anyone finds Juventus users trying to engage in nice conversations and learning more about our club, send them here.
There are a lot of idiots on the internet, and our more general boards are no exception.
Not nice to call other users idiots. Not nice at all.
But ok, I get your point.
Juventus equals to Corruption end of story.
Citação de: Sadness em 13 de Abril de 2014, 00:27
[..... derp .....]
this shit it's starting to get annoying
it seems like some people simply cannot behave
one of the reasons this thread was made, was because there were some people in the general section trash talking, and you come here to trash talk some more!?!?
read the OP... "
Expectations, worries, domestic campaigns, squad analysis, historical moments, all of that in here. No trash talk."it would be nice if someone could delete that post...
It's the truth and telling the truth has nothing wrong.
Citação de: Sadness em 13 de Abril de 2014, 00:50
It's the truth and telling the truth has nothing wrong.
c'mon man
I wonder how hard it is to welcome a few users from another historical club, that did nothing wrong!?!?
if they do, the moderators will surely act accordingly.
and Italy it's not Portugal
whatever Juventus did.... they got punished for it
not like here, where nothing happens
Personally I prefer to ignore that user even when he writes in portuguese, so... yeah.
Don't quote him and leave this topic to what it's for. :)
Citação de: Red.Fever em 13 de Abril de 2014, 00:59
Citação de: Sadness em 13 de Abril de 2014, 00:50
It's the truth and telling the truth has nothing wrong.
c'mon man
I wonder how hard it is to welcome a few users from another historical club, that did nothing wrong!?!?
if they do, the moderators will surely act accordingly.
and Italy it's not Portugal
whatever Juventus did.... they got punished for it
not like here, where nothing happens
In fact, many of our fans haven't forgotten what happened last time Benfica and Juventus met in Europe.
But, to be honest, let's just put it behind our backs and welcome Juventus fans.
Hope uou enjoy your stay here!
Actually ... Juventus gave me my first international orgasm.
Who can forget that late afternoon match in May 1984?
Nevertheless ... I simply can not trust in a club like Juventus.
Sorry for my honesty.
Hello friends,
I find two minutes to tell you that I could not write because on Sundays I dedicate to the family, taking advantage of the fact that juventus plays Mondays. :)
Carefully read all your posts and I promise you an answer at all.
Good Sunday.
Citação de: Dandy em 13 de Abril de 2014, 12:30
Actually ... Juventus gave me my first international orgasm.
Who can forget that late afternoon match in May 1984?
Referring to this one, I presume...
(http://www.juvestory.altervista.org/cdc/1984/1984_02.jpg)
Citação de: pcssousa em 13 de Abril de 2014, 14:58
Citação de: Dandy em 13 de Abril de 2014, 12:30
Actually ... Juventus gave me my first international orgasm.
Who can forget that late afternoon match in May 1984?
Referring to this one, I presume...
(http://www.juvestory.altervista.org/cdc/1984/1984_02.jpg)
Elementary, my dear Watson.
Fuck Porto.
There, I said it.
Citação de: pcssousa em 13 de Abril de 2014, 14:58
Citação de: Dandy em 13 de Abril de 2014, 12:30
Actually ... Juventus gave me my first international orgasm.
Who can forget that late afternoon match in May 1984?
Referring to this one, I presume...
(http://www.juvestory.altervista.org/cdc/1984/1984_02.jpg)
And then the defeated team made a replica of the trophy ;D
Citação de: Festivus em 13 de Abril de 2014, 23:28
Citação de: pcssousa em 13 de Abril de 2014, 14:58
Citação de: Dandy em 13 de Abril de 2014, 12:30
Actually ... Juventus gave me my first international orgasm.
Who can forget that late afternoon match in May 1984?
Referring to this one, I presume...
(http://www.juvestory.altervista.org/cdc/1984/1984_02.jpg)
And then the defeated team made a replica of the trophy ;D
So did the 1965 european cup runners-up.
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 12 de Abril de 2014, 18:26
Welcome, Juventino.
Firstly, and as i've said on the other thread, the first player (outside Benfica of course) that i've really admired, was the one and only Roberto Baggio. Great great player! :bow2:
Secondly, and regarding our next tie, i think it's hard to designate any favorites. Juve has good players as always, but i don't think this present team it's above Benfica. Sure, we dont' have Pirlo or Buffon, but generally speaking, both teams are pretty much at the same level.
I think the first leg will be crucial. Benfica is very strong at home, not only in domestic competions, but also in Europe. If we play our normal game, it'll be very hard for your team to stop us. Additionally, we have one of the better crowds in the world. You'll see that, i'm sure.
I'd hope we would meet in the final, since both our clubs are historic european teams. But since that isn't the case, i hope we have a great semi final, with the better team going through. Hopefully, Benfica. :)
Thanks for the welcome, my friend.
Roberto Baggio was a major player not only in juventus, but also AC Milan, Inter Milan, Bologna, Fiorentina ...
In short, he shot several teams.
I prefer to identify as an icon Alessandro Del Piero of Juventus.
Of Portuguese players in juve there have been few, but I remember with joy Gill Rui Soares Barros (a tightrope walker high only each meter and a fly :2funny:).
How can we forget ... Paul Sosa immense footballer. About Thiago does not have good memories, while Andrade was unfortunate.
As for our semi-final, I think that those who pass the turn, he also won the cup.
A curiosity: What do you think (you Portuguese) Cristiano Ronaldo?
In Italy it is considered a fool, rich and spoiled, but full of talent.
Citação de: JUVENTINO
A curiosity: What do you think (you Portuguese) Cristiano Ronaldo?
In Italy it is considered a fool, rich and spoiled, but full of talent.
It depends. I'd say most like him and consider him the best player in the world. But it's not hard to come across people who aren't fond of his attitude. Some consider Messi a better player even.
Use this post to respond to all those who have defined as a team juventus corrupt.
I do not have a chance here to make you think again about what you have written, but if you have patience you read the various articles on the site JU29RO.COM ... otherwise please do not comment anything about corruption because you are not able to know the whole truth.
Saying that juventus steals it is a crime because it supports a thought, not the truth.
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 09:47
Citação de: JUVENTINO
A curiosity: What do you think (you Portuguese) Cristiano Ronaldo?
In Italy it is considered a fool, rich and spoiled, but full of talent.
It depends. I'd say most like him and consider him the best player in the world. But it's not hard to come across people who aren't fond of his attitude. Some consider Messi a better player even.
Which team has started to play Ronaldo in portugal?
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 10:04
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 09:47
Citação de: JUVENTINO
A curiosity: What do you think (you Portuguese) Cristiano Ronaldo?
In Italy it is considered a fool, rich and spoiled, but full of talent.
It depends. I'd say most like him and consider him the best player in the world. But it's not hard to come across people who aren't fond of his attitude. Some consider Messi a better player even.
Which team has started to play Ronaldo in portugal?
CF Andorinha
Question from a million dollars: :)
There will be more joy, win the Taca de Portugal or win the semi-final against juventus? :)
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 10:05
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 10:04
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 09:47
Citação de: JUVENTINO
A curiosity: What do you think (you Portuguese) Cristiano Ronaldo?
In Italy it is considered a fool, rich and spoiled, but full of talent.
It depends. I'd say most like him and consider him the best player in the world. But it's not hard to come across people who aren't fond of his attitude. Some consider Messi a better player even.
Which team has started to play Ronaldo in portugal?
CF Andorinha
Ronaldo as the Portuguese team is fan?
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 10:09
Question from a million dollars: :)
There will be more joy, win the Taca de Portugal or win the semi-final against juventus? :)
You mean between the semis against Porto and Juve? Hard to say. We play against Porto this Wednesday, so that's where our focus should go for now. If we manage to knock em out it will be great since they're our biggest rival. That being said, knocking out Juventus and going to the EL final would be great as well, since Juventus are the favorites to win the trophy and if we beat you guys, we'd become number one favorites.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 10:11
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 10:05
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 10:04
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 09:47
Citação de: JUVENTINO
A curiosity: What do you think (you Portuguese) Cristiano Ronaldo?
In Italy it is considered a fool, rich and spoiled, but full of talent.
It depends. I'd say most like him and consider him the best player in the world. But it's not hard to come across people who aren't fond of his attitude. Some consider Messi a better player even.
Which team has started to play Ronaldo in portugal?
CF Andorinha
Ronaldo as the Portuguese team is fan?
Cristiano is a Sporting fan since that's where he started his senior career. He's also a fan of Nacional da Madeira as far as I know.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 10:09
Question from a million dollars: :)
There will be more joy, win the Taca de Portugal or win the semi-final against juventus? :)
Both are very important to us.
I would say that normally, the game against Juventus and the possibility to play an european final would be more important than reaching the final of the Portuguese Cup.
But...we are playing against Porto in the semi-finals of the Portuguese Cup and this stirs the feelings and changes things.
To me, would be less shameful being eliminated by Juventus in EL than by Porto at our home.
Portugal, germany, usa and ghana.
You consider this easy group?
I just saw you on your way after the elimination round: your opponents will be Belgium or Russia.
They are tough teams.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 10:17
Portugal, germany, usa and ghana.
You consider this easy group?
I just saw you on your way after the elimination round: your opponents will be Belgium or Russia.
They are tough teams.
We'll probably lose to Germany again. USA and Ghana are beatable. We'll finish 2nd in the group most likely.
I think Portugal can knock-out Russia without much trouble, to be honest. As for Belgium, they certainly have a lot of good players, but I have a feeling that they'll underperform in the World Cup due to their lack of experience in such tournaments.
answer to Festivus and special_red:
I see that your domestic cup is highly coveted.
In Italy, the national cup, is considered almost insignificant.
It becomes important only when you arrive at the end, or if you failed the sports season.
For example, juventus has won 9, but since 1995 he does not win the cup.
In fact, Antonio Conte, in the quarter-final against Roma did play a lot of reserves.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 10:26
answer to Festivus and special_red:
I see that your domestic cup is highly coveted.
In Italy, the national cup, is considered almost insignificant.
It becomes important only when you arrive at the end, or if you failed the sports season.
For example, juventus has won 9, but since 1995 he does not win the cup.
In fact, Antonio Conte, in the quarter-final against Roma did play a lot of reserves.
Yeah, an Italian once told me that in Italy, it's called "Grandpa Cup" or something like that. Why does it have such reputation, though?
Taça de Portugal is a trophy the big 3 want to win every season, no doubt.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 10:26
answer to Festivus and special_red:
I see that your domestic cup is highly coveted.
In Italy, the national cup, is considered almost insignificant.
It becomes important only when you arrive at the end, or if you failed the sports season.
For example, juventus has won 9, but since 1995 he does not win the cup.
In fact, Antonio Conte, in the quarter-final against Roma did play a lot of reserves.
Our priority has been to win the portuguese league.
We've also played with many reserves in the portuguese cup and even in Europe League matches.
But now that we've managed to reach to semi-finals in both and we have almost the League in our pockets, we will try our best to win all.
But as I've said before, what is making these semi-finals in the Portuguese Cup so important is the fact of playing against Porto.
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 10:29
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 10:26
answer to Festivus and special_red:
I see that your domestic cup is highly coveted.
In Italy, the national cup, is considered almost insignificant.
It becomes important only when you arrive at the end, or if you failed the sports season.
For example, juventus has won 9, but since 1995 he does not win the cup.
In fact, Antonio Conte, in the quarter-final against Roma did play a lot of reserves.
Yeah, an Italian once told me that in Italy, it's called "Grandpa Cup" or something like that. Why does it have such reputation, though?
Taça de Portugal is a trophy the big 3 want to win every season, no doubt.
Hard to explain.
Since this competition is always snubbed by Italian clubs (even from small clubs).
I think the Premier League with 20 clubs could be an explanation.
38 games in Serie A and are exhausting the domestic cup takes away concentration on Serie A.
The winner of the Italian Cup earns also a place in the Europe League in the following year?
Citação de: Special_Red em 14 de Abril de 2014, 10:44
The winner of the Italian Cup earns also a place in the Europe League in the following year?
Yes!
What about you, JUVENTINO? Confident for the World Cup?
In the past, the winner of the domestic cup, the following year he played in the Cup Winners' Cup.
Often, smaller teams cup winners Italy, they made beautiful figures in Europe: Atalanta, who came to the semifinals (lost to MALINES) or Vicenza (arrived at the semi-final against Chelsea and seemed).
Legendary was the way in Atalanta Cup Winners 'Cup: finalist in the Italian Cup the year before (the other finalist was the vicitrice Napoli Serie A) participated in the Cup Winners' Cup because napoli won the Scudetto and then played the champions league .
That year the atalanta retreated in series B. Therefore, played the Cup Winners' Cup while competing in the Serie B.
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 10:48
What about you, JUVENTINO? Confident for the World Cup?
There are at least five or six most powerful nations of Italy.
The qualifying round is very hard: Uruguay and England are difficult to play.
In attack, Prandelli will rely on Balotelli-Cassano couple that compared to other couples of attack is small change.
But, if Italy goes the first round, anything can happen.
I remember in germany that the team became stronger and stronger game by game.
About germany 2006 semi-final against France portugal was unlucky ... just a Zidane penalty (if I remember correctly), prompting France to play the final.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 11:01
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 10:48
What about you, JUVENTINO? Confident for the World Cup?
There are at least five or six most powerful nations of Italy.
The qualifying round is very hard: Uruguay and England are difficult to play.
In attack, Prandelli will rely on Balotelli-Cassano couple that compared to other couples of attack is small change.
But, if Italy goes the first round, anything can happen.
I remember in germany that the team became stronger and stronger game by game.
About germany 2006 semi-final against France portugal was unlucky ... just a Zidane penalty (if I remember correctly), prompting France to play the final.
Well, to be honest, France had a better team than us. Our big opportunity was Euro 2004... but we had to lose it to Greece -__-
Generally speaking, what do italians think of Balotelli? I personally find him unprofessional. A shame he wastes away his talent.
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 11:03
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 11:01
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 10:48
What about you, JUVENTINO? Confident for the World Cup?
There are at least five or six most powerful nations of Italy.
The qualifying round is very hard: Uruguay and England are difficult to play.
In attack, Prandelli will rely on Balotelli-Cassano couple that compared to other couples of attack is small change.
But, if Italy goes the first round, anything can happen.
I remember in germany that the team became stronger and stronger game by game.
About germany 2006 semi-final against France portugal was unlucky ... just a Zidane penalty (if I remember correctly), prompting France to play the final.
Well, to be honest, France had a better team than us. Our big opportunity was Euro 2004... but we had to lose it to Greece -__-
Generally speaking, what do italians think of Balotelli? I personally find him unprofessional. A shame he wastes away his talent.
be paradoxical as Portugal (a country that has expressed many talents) has never won anything at international level (I speak of competitions for nations), while a country such as Greece could even count a European championship.
Moreover, Spain (other nation that has expressed many talents) just a decade now has succeeded in establishing itself internationally.
Balotelli is a monstrous talent, but rarely puts this talent to the team.
See, the difference between CR7 and Balotelli is this:
both dickheads, but CR7 is crucial for his team, not Mario.
from one to ten: which vote given to the Italian league?
in Italy there is a tendency in Europe to cheer for the teams of the heart at the expense of the rankings ... for two years, in fact it has surpassed Germany as the number of teams to be deployed in CL.
In Portugal there is the same tendency? or interests you the third place in the rankings to bring 4 teams in the CL?
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 11:49
from one to ten: which vote given to the Italian league?
in Italy there is a tendency in Europe to cheer for the teams of the heart at the expense of the rankings ... for two years, in fact it has surpassed Germany as the number of teams to be deployed in CL.
In Portugal there is the same tendency? or interests you the third place in the rankings to bring 4 teams in the CL?
You're asking us if we want other Portuguese teams, including our rivals, to do well in Europe in hope of improving the coeficient of our league? No, that's mostly a media thing. Most people here want Porto and Sporting to lose every game in Europe, and I guarantee you that most Sporting and Porto fans wish the same upon us.
There is rivalry (football) between Portugal and Spain?
If yes, how would you see an all-Spanish final of the champions league in your stadium?
Fans of Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid as they would be greeted in Lisbon?
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 11:57
There is rivalry (football) between Portugal and Spain?
If yes, how would you see an all-Spanish final of the champions league in your stadium?
Fans of Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid as they would be greeted in Lisbon?
Obviously there is. They're our biggest rival in international football. As for spanish clubs, nah. We wouldn't really care if a spanish club like Atlético de Madrid or Real Madrid won the Champions League. And if a spanish club faces Sporting or Porto I want the Spanish club to beat them. We all loved it when Sevilla crushed Porto recently.
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 11:56
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 11:49
from one to ten: which vote given to the Italian league?
in Italy there is a tendency in Europe to cheer for the teams of the heart at the expense of the rankings ... for two years, in fact it has surpassed Germany as the number of teams to be deployed in CL.
In Portugal there is the same tendency? or interests you the third place in the rankings to bring 4 teams in the CL?
You're asking us if we want other Portuguese teams, including our rivals, to do well in Europe in hope of improving the coeficient of our league? No, that's mostly a media thing. Most people here want Porto and Sporting to lose every game in Europe, and I guarantee you that most Sporting and Porto fans wish the same upon us.
each country is the world, we say :2funny:; that is, the fans of each nation, about the uefa ranking, if they fuck :2funny:
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 11:59
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 11:57
There is rivalry (football) between Portugal and Spain?
If yes, how would you see an all-Spanish final of the champions league in your stadium?
Fans of Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid as they would be greeted in Lisbon?
Obviously there is. They're our biggest rival in international football. As for spanish clubs, nah. We wouldn't really care if a spanish club like Atlético de Madrid or Real Madrid won the Champions League. And if a spanish club faces Sporting or Porto I want the Spanish club to beat them. We all loved it when Sevilla crushed Porto recently.
ok, but, for example, I would take it well if two English teams will play the Champions League final in Turin in a hypothetical.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 12:07
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 11:59
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 11:57
There is rivalry (football) between Portugal and Spain?
If yes, how would you see an all-Spanish final of the champions league in your stadium?
Fans of Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid as they would be greeted in Lisbon?
Obviously there is. They're our biggest rival in international football. As for spanish clubs, nah. We wouldn't really care if a spanish club like Atlético de Madrid or Real Madrid won the Champions League. And if a spanish club faces Sporting or Porto I want the Spanish club to beat them. We all loved it when Sevilla crushed Porto recently.
ok, but, for example, I would take it well if two English teams will play the Champions League final in Turin in a hypothetical.
It's irrelevant. Doesn't matter to us if they're spaniards, english, italian or german. As long as they bring cash and be have we won't mind them. :smokin:
Citação de: Dandy em 13 de Abril de 2014, 23:57
Citação de: Festivus em 13 de Abril de 2014, 23:28
Citação de: pcssousa em 13 de Abril de 2014, 14:58
Citação de: Dandy em 13 de Abril de 2014, 12:30
Actually ... Juventus gave me my first international orgasm.
Who can forget that late afternoon match in May 1984?
Referring to this one, I presume...
(http://www.juvestory.altervista.org/cdc/1984/1984_02.jpg)
And then the defeated team made a replica of the trophy ;D
So did the 1965 european cup runners-up.
Incorrect. The president offered one... Totally different.
And that one never made the trophy room.
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 12:09
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 12:07
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 11:59
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 11:57
There is rivalry (football) between Portugal and Spain?
If yes, how would you see an all-Spanish final of the champions league in your stadium?
Fans of Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid as they would be greeted in Lisbon?
Obviously there is. They're our biggest rival in international football. As for spanish clubs, nah. We wouldn't really care if a spanish club like Atlético de Madrid or Real Madrid won the Champions League. And if a spanish club faces Sporting or Porto I want the Spanish club to beat them. We all loved it when Sevilla crushed Porto recently.
ok, but, for example, I would take it well if two English teams will play the Champions League final in Turin in a hypothetical.
It's irrelevant. Doesn't matter to us if they're spaniards, english, italian or german. As long as they bring cash and be have we won't mind them. :smokin:
:clap1: :2funny:
I understand the concept
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 11:57
There is rivalry (football) between Portugal and Spain?
If yes, how would you see an all-Spanish final of the champions league in your stadium?
Fans of Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid as they would be greeted in Lisbon?
We have a long friendship's with Real Madrid. It began in 1913.
So, almost all Benfica fans who who knows well and respect history also like Real Madrid.
And once, Ramon Mendonza, former Real Madrid President said: "at Real Madrid we all are Benfiquistas".
I guess this answers your question.
I was even hoping Real Madrid would get their 33 league title this year, just like us :(
oh well, at least it seems it won't be Barça winning it lol
Some historical data:
- The first victory ever of our national team was over Italy, back in 1925.
- Benfica played four times against Juventus in European clubs competitions, won 3 and lost 1, scored 5 goals and conceded 4.
btw what's your opinion about Miccoli, and about what he said??
from what I saw at your forum it seems you guys don't really like him all that much D:
we loved him here, good player and he had charisma
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE3NXOcTL3A :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkECxaINwOs - bicycle kick against Liverpool for CL :smitten:
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 13:00
btw what's your opinion about Miccoli, and about what he said??
from what I saw at your forum it seems you guys don't really like him all that much D:
we loved him here, good player and he had charisma
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE3NXOcTL3A :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkECxaINwOs - bicycle kick against Liverpool for CL :smitten:
miccoli had great talent but small brain for be a great player .
We don't have any rivalry outside of the country. Depends a lot of the person preference, here in this forum you find people with all the kind of preferences about the international teams.
About italian football it's true that in the last decade is less popular. I think the reason is always the money, in 90's and begining of 2000s italian clubs were very reach and had the some of the better players in the world in them league. Also the calciopoli and some other scandals about bets gave a dirty image about italian football and less interest.
And have another reasons, I think other leagues know better how to sell them football (better environment in the stadiuns, more emotion games, etc)
If you pay attention in that section of this forum ( http://serbenfiquista.com/forum/futebol-e-outros-desportos/ ) you will see the difference of the participation of the users between italian league and the others. It's the 3rd more commented, but I see in last years less interest in that topic and another leagues like bundesliga and also ligue 1 with more participation
welcome to this section mentalist ;D
saw that the things in the general section weren't going very well
but here you guys won't have much problems ;)
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 13:19
welcome to this section mentalist ;D
saw that the things in the general section weren't going very well
but here you guys won't have much problems ;)
thank you
was reading the last few pages of your forum
you can also talk portuguese in this section if you like mentalist ;D
and yeah, some in the general section were starting to think you were just a sporting or porto fan messing around.... we've some of those once in a while
but I don't blame them, their forums are really boring... while we get a 100+ pages of discussion here per match, there they get like 10 or 15 at most. the difference on how many fans we have is quite big. Benfica have the most
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 13:40
was reading the last few pages of your forum
you can also talk portuguese in this section if you like mentalist ;D
and yeah, some in the general section were starting to think you were just a sporting or porto fan messing around.... we've some of those once in a while
but I don't blame them, their forums are really boring... while we get a 100+ pages of discussion here per match, there they get like 10 or 15 at most. the difference on how many fans we have is quite big. Benfica have the most
lol that mean my portoghese not soo bad? eheh
Citação de: the mentalist em 14 de Abril de 2014, 13:49
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 13:40
was reading the last few pages of your forum
you can also talk portuguese in this section if you like mentalist ;D
and yeah, some in the general section were starting to think you were just a sporting or porto fan messing around.... we've some of those once in a while
but I don't blame them, their forums are really boring... while we get a 100+ pages of discussion here per match, there they get like 10 or 15 at most. the difference on how many fans we have is quite big. Benfica have the most
lol that mean my portoghese not soo bad? eheh
;D
yep, from the few posts I saw it seems pretty good O0
and the difference between PT and PT-BR is very little
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 12:21
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 11:57
There is rivalry (football) between Portugal and Spain?
If yes, how would you see an all-Spanish final of the champions league in your stadium?
Fans of Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid as they would be greeted in Lisbon?
We have a long friendship's with Real Madrid. It began in 1913.
So, almost all Benfica fans who who knows well and respect history also like Real Madrid.
And once, Ramon Mendonza, former Real Madrid President said: "at Real Madrid we all are Benfiquistas".
I guess this answers your question.
Era muito pequeno quando fiquei a saber dessa história, e ficou gravada para sempre.
Estava a ver um jogo com o meu irmão, e não percebia porque razão ele estava tão nervoso a ver um jogo do Real Madrid.
"Porque estás tão nervoso? Não é o Benfica que está a jogar."
Perguntei eu ao meu irmão. Ao que ele responde.
"Todos os adeptos do Real Madrid são do Benfica. E quem o disse foi um presidente deles, por isso respeito."
A partir desse dia o Real passou a ter mais um adepto.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 09:45
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 12 de Abril de 2014, 18:26
Welcome, Juventino.
Firstly, and as i've said on the other thread, the first player (outside Benfica of course) that i've really admired, was the one and only Roberto Baggio. Great great player! :bow2:
Secondly, and regarding our next tie, i think it's hard to designate any favorites. Juve has good players as always, but i don't think this present team it's above Benfica. Sure, we dont' have Pirlo or Buffon, but generally speaking, both teams are pretty much at the same level.
I think the first leg will be crucial. Benfica is very strong at home, not only in domestic competions, but also in Europe. If we play our normal game, it'll be very hard for your team to stop us. Additionally, we have one of the better crowds in the world. You'll see that, i'm sure.
I'd hope we would meet in the final, since both our clubs are historic european teams. But since that isn't the case, i hope we have a great semi final, with the better team going through. Hopefully, Benfica. :)
Thanks for the welcome, my friend.
Roberto Baggio was a major player not only in juventus, but also AC Milan, Inter Milan, Bologna, Fiorentina ...
In short, he shot several teams.
I prefer to identify as an icon Alessandro Del Piero of Juventus.
Of Portuguese players in juve there have been few, but I remember with joy Gill Rui Soares Barros (a tightrope walker high only each meter and a fly :2funny:).
How can we forget ... Paul Sosa immense footballer. About Thiago does not have good memories, while Andrade was unfortunate.
As for our semi-final, I think that those who pass the turn, he also won the cup.
A curiosity: What do you think (you Portuguese) Cristiano Ronaldo?
In Italy it is considered a fool, rich and spoiled, but full of talent.
Yeah, i remember that. Baggio exploded in Fiorentina, and after the World Cup in 1990, went to Juventus. For that reason, Fiorentina fans hate Juventus, ain't that right? He was one of my favorite players in the early 90's. Del Piero was a great player also, but a step bellow Baggio. In my opinion, of couse.
I remember all those portuguese players that you've mentioned. Paulo Sousa was a great player, he played in Benfica in the youth categories, and then in the senior team for a couple of seasons. In 1993, he went to Sporting, and one year later to Italy. As i've said, he was a great player, but he is not welcomed at all in our club, for what he did in the summer of 93.
The other three you've mentioned, were good players. I like Tiago and even Andrade, Rui Barros is a Porto legend, so i don't care about him.
Regarding our semi final tie, i think it's 50/50. Anything can happen. And i agree with you, the team that goes through, will win the cup.
As for Cristiano Ronaldo, i don't really care that much about him. He is a great player, one of the best in the world, but that's it. When he plays in the national side, i cheer for him to do well, but in Real Madrid i don't care. If he played in Benfica, then it would be a totally different ball game.
E o Dimas caralho? Também jogou por eles.
É verdade, o grande Dimas. Também lá jogou no tempo do Zidane, Del Piero, etc. Bom jogador. :)
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:04
É verdade, o grande Dimas. Também lá jogou no tempo do Zidane, Del Piero, etc. Bom jogador. :)
Saiu do Glorioso para lá.
E fez boas épocas lá. Depois voltou para a lagartagem.
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:05
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:04
É verdade, o grande Dimas. Também lá jogou no tempo do Zidane, Del Piero, etc. Bom jogador. :)
Saiu do Glorioso para lá.
E fez boas épocas lá. Depois voltou para a lagartagem.
Exactamente. Acho que foi no mesmo ano do Hélder, se não estou em erro.
O Dimas não era nenhum Roberto Carlos, mas gostava dele. Só nunca percebi se é dos nossos, se é lagarto.
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:07
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:05
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:04
É verdade, o grande Dimas. Também lá jogou no tempo do Zidane, Del Piero, etc. Bom jogador. :)
Saiu do Glorioso para lá.
E fez boas épocas lá. Depois voltou para a lagartagem.
Exactamente. Acho que foi no mesmo ano do Hélder, se não estou em erro.
O Dimas não era nenhum Roberto Carlos, mas gostava dele. Só nunca percebi se é dos nossos, se é lagarto.
O Dimas do Guimarães e do Benfica era um excelente jogador. Como provou depois na Juve.
Depois veio para o sporting, e não sei se continuou a jogar bem. Mas acho que não. :)
Também não sei a filiação.
Citação de: the mentalist em 14 de Abril de 2014, 13:49
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 13:40
was reading the last few pages of your forum
you can also talk portuguese in this section if you like mentalist ;D
and yeah, some in the general section were starting to think you were just a sporting or porto fan messing around.... we've some of those once in a while
but I don't blame them, their forums are really boring... while we get a 100+ pages of discussion here per match, there they get like 10 or 15 at most. the difference on how many fans we have is quite big. Benfica have the most
lol that mean my portoghese not soo bad? eheh
What a talented user, mister mentalist...
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:07
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:05
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:04
É verdade, o grande Dimas. Também lá jogou no tempo do Zidane, Del Piero, etc. Bom jogador. :)
Saiu do Glorioso para lá.
E fez boas épocas lá. Depois voltou para a lagartagem.
Exactamente. Acho que foi no mesmo ano do Hélder, se não estou em erro.
O Dimas não era nenhum Roberto Carlos, mas gostava dele. Só nunca percebi se é dos nossos, se é lagarto.
É Benfiquista. Seguro.
Acredito. Sempre tive boa opinião do Dimas, mesmo sem ter a certeza da sua filiação clubística.
Let's try to keep this english only.
hi guys, i hope we're about to see two great matches with no controversy or complaints... just win the best
p.s. you've got a couple of players i'd really like to see playing in black and white but your shop is very expensive eheheh
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 12:21
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 11:57
There is rivalry (football) between Portugal and Spain?
If yes, how would you see an all-Spanish final of the champions league in your stadium?
Fans of Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid as they would be greeted in Lisbon?
We have a long friendship's with Real Madrid. It began in 1913.
So, almost all Benfica fans who who knows well and respect history also like Real Madrid.
And once, Ramon Mendonza, former Real Madrid President said: "at Real Madrid we all are Benfiquistas".
I guess this answers your question.
It didn't start at the European Cup final? You do learn something new everyday on this forum. The friendship between both clubs goes all the way back to 1913? I'd like to know more about it.
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:18
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 12:21
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 11:57
There is rivalry (football) between Portugal and Spain?
If yes, how would you see an all-Spanish final of the champions league in your stadium?
Fans of Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid as they would be greeted in Lisbon?
We have a long friendship's with Real Madrid. It began in 1913.
So, almost all Benfica fans who who knows well and respect history also like Real Madrid.
And once, Ramon Mendonza, former Real Madrid President said: "at Real Madrid we all are Benfiquistas".
I guess this answers your question.
It didn't start at the European Cup final? You do learn something new everyday on this forum. The friendship between both clubs goes all the way back to 1913? I'd like to know more about it.
Before the European Cup final, Benfica and Real Madrid played a lot of friendly matches against themselves.
Maybe around 10 before that clash.
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:16
hi guys, i hope we're about to see two great matches with no controversy or complaints... just win the best
p.s. you've got a couple of players i'd really like to see playing in black and white but your shop is very expensive eheheh
Yeah. Good luck :)
That's portuguese football today. Probably it has a lot to do with Jorge Mendes and friends.
We've got used to develop world class talent every year though, hope it never ends.
PS- I hear Juve are not particularly cheap either regarding Pogba :P
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:16
hi guys, i hope we're about to see two great matches with no controversy or complaints... just win the best
p.s. you've got a couple of players i'd really like to see playing in black and white but your shop is very expensive eheheh
;D ;D
Um adepto da juventus dizer isto é engraçado.
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:16
hi guys, i hope we're about to see two great matches with no controversy or complaints... just win the best
p.s. you've got a couple of players i'd really like to see playing in black and white but your shop is very expensive eheheh
it will surely be very though, for both Juve and Benfica, but I'm also hoping for a good show
unless, one of the teams have one of those days where everything goes right and unbalances the tie xD
what players from Benfica would you like to see in Juve??
Citação de: Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:23
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:16
hi guys, i hope we're about to see two great matches with no controversy or complaints... just win the best
p.s. you've got a couple of players i'd really like to see playing in black and white but your shop is very expensive eheheh
Yeah. Good luck :)
That's portuguese football today. Probably it has a lot to do with Jorge Mendes and friends.
We've got used to develop world class talent every year though, hope it never ends.
PS- I hear Juve are not particularly cheap either regarding Pogba :P
yep...i have to say that noboby would like to put Pogba on the market cause we're not in need of money to go on but we dont have the economic strenght to square the economic offers from the richest teams...
if Real or Man City or Psg or some other offers Pogba 8/10 mln per year we cant square the offer...so, if they wanna dope the market they just pay the price...
our strongest team
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_AW4FQV0-sW0/S1kPgLqIYnI/AAAAAAAACgY/i50GMe2U1EA/s1600/2hq7y37.jpg)
you have no chances!!1!!one!!!
Welcome lucypher.
Great game and difficult for two teams.
Juventus is favourite but i bet that Benfica will play two games in Torino. :)
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:32
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:16
hi guys, i hope we're about to see two great matches with no controversy or complaints... just win the best
p.s. you've got a couple of players i'd really like to see playing in black and white but your shop is very expensive eheheh
it will surely be very though, for both Juve and Benfica, but I'm also hoping for a good show
unless, one of the teams have one of those days where everything goes right and unbalances the tie xD
what players from Benfica would you like to see in Juve??
i wouldn't be sorry to see one betwin gaitan or salvio...we need more quality on the wings
Citação de: joaonunes em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:35
Welcome lucypher.
Great game and difficult for two teams.
Juventus is favourite but i bet that Benfica will play two games in Torino. :)
thank you...yeah, it'll be a tough game...
please dont start to jinx :)
Wow, finally some brothers "GOBBI" have accepted my invitation to post in this section.
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Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:23
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:16
hi guys, i hope we're about to see two great matches with no controversy or complaints... just win the best
p.s. you've got a couple of players i'd really like to see playing in black and white but your shop is very expensive eheheh
;D ;D
Um adepto da juventus dizer isto é engraçado.
why you say so? :)
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:18
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 12:21
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 11:57
There is rivalry (football) between Portugal and Spain?
If yes, how would you see an all-Spanish final of the champions league in your stadium?
Fans of Real Madrid and Atletico Madrid as they would be greeted in Lisbon?
We have a long friendship's with Real Madrid. It began in 1913.
So, almost all Benfica fans who who knows well and respect history also like Real Madrid.
And once, Ramon Mendonza, former Real Madrid President said: "at Real Madrid we all are Benfiquistas".
I guess this answers your question.
It didn't start at the European Cup final? You do learn something new everyday on this forum. The friendship between both clubs goes all the way back to 1913? I'd like to know more about it.
Well, it began in January 1913, when Benfica and then Madrid Football Club first met. We trashed them and were invited to visit Madrid.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1cQwMfkrcE4/UJO3BSqoxRI/AAAAAAAAAYs/E_Qqer8U3Pk/s1600/385520_2378874911355_1235123472_31855268_993222197_n.jpeg)
And that's how it began.
For the Juventus fans, Cosme Damião was one of our founders and is the most important man in our history, sort of a father to us.
In 1954 Real Madrid was invited for the inauguration of the original Estádio da Luz and faced us in the second match ever played there.
Well, I could write a long post about this relationship but for now I guess is enough.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:43
Wow, finally some brothers "GOBBI" have accepted my invitation to post in this section.
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Hi brother, i started out with a lil' wordfight in the match section :)
and someone thought i needed some help and let me land here...
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:45
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:23
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:16
hi guys, i hope we're about to see two great matches with no controversy or complaints... just win the best
p.s. you've got a couple of players i'd really like to see playing in black and white but your shop is very expensive eheheh
;D ;D
Um adepto da juventus dizer isto é engraçado.
why you say so? :)
;D
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:45
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:23
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:16
hi guys, i hope we're about to see two great matches with no controversy or complaints... just win the best
p.s. you've got a couple of players i'd really like to see playing in black and white but your shop is very expensive eheheh
;D ;D
Um adepto da juventus dizer isto é engraçado.
why you say so? :)
Because of our last match against you, back in 93.
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:45
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:23
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:16
hi guys, i hope we're about to see two great matches with no controversy or complaints... just win the best
p.s. you've got a couple of players i'd really like to see playing in black and white but your shop is very expensive eheheh
;D ;D
Um adepto da juventus dizer isto é engraçado.
why you say so? :)
because, perhaps, beyond everything ... it's amazing how the human race (who lives in Portugal or Italy) is always the same in the way of insult. :)
that's why the Italian fan, put "I like" :2funny:
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:47
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:43
Wow, finally some brothers "GOBBI" have accepted my invitation to post in this section.
A warm greeting to THE MENTALIST AND Lucypher, fellow travelers on tifosiabianconeri.com ... by MI CONSENTA :metal:
Hi brother, i started out with a lil' wordfight in the match section :)
and someone thought i needed some help and let me land here...
Welcome to this forum. The biggest Benfica forum.
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:39
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:32
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:16
hi guys, i hope we're about to see two great matches with no controversy or complaints... just win the best
p.s. you've got a couple of players i'd really like to see playing in black and white but your shop is very expensive eheheh
it will surely be very though, for both Juve and Benfica, but I'm also hoping for a good show
unless, one of the teams have one of those days where everything goes right and unbalances the tie xD
what players from Benfica would you like to see in Juve??
i wouldn't be sorry to see one betwin gaitan or salvio...we need more quality on the wings
good choices, both very good, and Gaitan also performs good in the midfield (10)
but yeah, they would be a bit expensive ;D
but you guys could buy Ola John for a good price heheh, young talent, but not much room because of Salvio, Gaitan and Markovic
you guys might not know Markovic very well, but you guys will be seeing shining in Engalnd or Spain in 1 or 2 years.... this kid is a amazing, and we'll have trouble keeping him for long, he seems like a mini Messi
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:49
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:47
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:43
Wow, finally some brothers "GOBBI" have accepted my invitation to post in this section.
A warm greeting to THE MENTALIST AND Lucypher, fellow travelers on tifosiabianconeri.com ... by MI CONSENTA :metal:
Hi brother, i started out with a lil' wordfight in the match section :)
and someone thought i needed some help and let me land here...
Welcome to this forum. The biggest Benfica forum.
Similarly, TIFOSIBIANCONERI.COM is the largest and followed the forum Juventus.
Beware of imitations :metal:
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:48
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:45
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:23
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:16
hi guys, i hope we're about to see two great matches with no controversy or complaints... just win the best
p.s. you've got a couple of players i'd really like to see playing in black and white but your shop is very expensive eheheh
;D ;D
Um adepto da juventus dizer isto é engraçado.
why you say so? :)
Because of our last match against you, back in 93.
1993...i was still young and pure...it's lives ago...
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:49
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:45
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:23
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:16
hi guys, i hope we're about to see two great matches with no controversy or complaints... just win the best
p.s. you've got a couple of players i'd really like to see playing in black and white but your shop is very expensive eheheh
;D ;D
Um adepto da juventus dizer isto é engraçado.
why you say so? :)
because, perhaps, beyond everything ... it's amazing how the human race (who lives in Portugal or Italy) is always the same in the way of insult. :)
that's why the Italian fan, put "I like" :2funny:
Juventino, for decades we suffered from corruption. We've lost many things to Porto cause of that.
In fact there are recorded proves of that, but our justice in even worse than yours.
That's why the corruption theme is so sensible here.
That's not your fault. But that's just the way it is.
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:54
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:48
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:45
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:23
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:16
hi guys, i hope we're about to see two great matches with no controversy or complaints... just win the best
p.s. you've got a couple of players i'd really like to see playing in black and white but your shop is very expensive eheheh
;D ;D
Um adepto da juventus dizer isto é engraçado.
why you say so? :)
Because of our last match against you, back in 93.
1993...i was still young and pure...it's lives ago...
it is likely that he did not understand a shit :2funny:
I answered without understanding anything :2funny:
In 1993, if I remember correctly, we played against Benfica in the UEFA Cup (2-1 benfica-juve, juve-Benfica 3-0) ... then we won the cup :whistle2:
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:51
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:39
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:32
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:16
hi guys, i hope we're about to see two great matches with no controversy or complaints... just win the best
p.s. you've got a couple of players i'd really like to see playing in black and white but your shop is very expensive eheheh
it will surely be very though, for both Juve and Benfica, but I'm also hoping for a good show
unless, one of the teams have one of those days where everything goes right and unbalances the tie xD
what players from Benfica would you like to see in Juve??
i wouldn't be sorry to see one betwin gaitan or salvio...we need more quality on the wings
good choices, both very good, and Gaitan also performs good in the midfield (10)
but yeah, they would be a bit expensive ;D
but you guys could buy Ola John for a good price heheh, young talent, but not much room because of Salvio, Gaitan and Markovic
you guys might not know Markovic very well, but you guys will be seeing shining in Engalnd or Spain in 1 or 2 years.... this kid is a amazing, and we'll have trouble keeping him for long, he seems like a mini Messi
ok, thanks for the commercial break :) i'll copy and send to beppe marotta, our CEO
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:54
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:48
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:45
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:23
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:16
hi guys, i hope we're about to see two great matches with no controversy or complaints... just win the best
p.s. you've got a couple of players i'd really like to see playing in black and white but your shop is very expensive eheheh
;D ;D
Um adepto da juventus dizer isto é engraçado.
why you say so? :)
Because of our last match against you, back in 93.
1993...i was still young and pure...it's lives ago...
Porto fans still point the finger at you because of that final played in Basel in 1984...
That's life.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:58
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:54
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:48
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:45
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:23
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:16
hi guys, i hope we're about to see two great matches with no controversy or complaints... just win the best
p.s. you've got a couple of players i'd really like to see playing in black and white but your shop is very expensive eheheh
;D ;D
Um adepto da juventus dizer isto é engraçado.
why you say so? :)
Because of our last match against you, back in 93.
1993...i was still young and pure...it's lives ago...
it is likely that he did not understand a shit :2funny:
I answered without understanding anything :2funny:
In 1993, if I remember correctly, we played against Benfica in the UEFA Cup (2-1 benfica-juve, juve-Benfica 3-0) ... then we won the cup :whistle2:
i know that...but i dont remember any particular complaint or backstage controversy....
Sousa,
Um Benfiquista em Turim tem um clube. Torino.
Esse é o principal clube da cidade de Turim e que a nós Benfiquistas nos diz muito.
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:59
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:54
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:48
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:45
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:23
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:16
hi guys, i hope we're about to see two great matches with no controversy or complaints... just win the best
p.s. you've got a couple of players i'd really like to see playing in black and white but your shop is very expensive eheheh
;D ;D
Um adepto da juventus dizer isto é engraçado.
why you say so? :)
Because of our last match against you, back in 93.
1993...i was still young and pure...it's lives ago...
Porto fans still point the finger at you because of that final played in Basel in 1984...
That's life.
sometime people has nothin' to do in his daytime but complainin' 'bout the past like old grumpy ladies...
[/quote]
i know that...but i dont remember any particular complaint or backstage controversy....
[/quote]
to be honest, even I remember nothing ... :confused:
as indeed do not remember any controversy of the port to basel. :confused::confused:
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:58
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:51
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:39
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:32
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:16
hi guys, i hope we're about to see two great matches with no controversy or complaints... just win the best
p.s. you've got a couple of players i'd really like to see playing in black and white but your shop is very expensive eheheh
it will surely be very though, for both Juve and Benfica, but I'm also hoping for a good show
unless, one of the teams have one of those days where everything goes right and unbalances the tie xD
what players from Benfica would you like to see in Juve??
i wouldn't be sorry to see one betwin gaitan or salvio...we need more quality on the wings
good choices, both very good, and Gaitan also performs good in the midfield (10)
but yeah, they would be a bit expensive ;D
but you guys could buy Ola John for a good price heheh, young talent, but not much room because of Salvio, Gaitan and Markovic
you guys might not know Markovic very well, but you guys will be seeing shining in Engalnd or Spain in 1 or 2 years.... this kid is a amazing, and we'll have trouble keeping him for long, he seems like a mini Messi
ok, thanks for the commercial break :) i'll copy and send to beppe marotta, our CEO
;D ;D ;D
ok, but don't forget to tell them if we make bussiness I want my commission >:(
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:08
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:58
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:51
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:39
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:32
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:16
hi guys, i hope we're about to see two great matches with no controversy or complaints... just win the best
p.s. you've got a couple of players i'd really like to see playing in black and white but your shop is very expensive eheheh
it will surely be very though, for both Juve and Benfica, but I'm also hoping for a good show
unless, one of the teams have one of those days where everything goes right and unbalances the tie xD
what players from Benfica would you like to see in Juve??
i wouldn't be sorry to see one betwin gaitan or salvio...we need more quality on the wings
good choices, both very good, and Gaitan also performs good in the midfield (10)
but yeah, they would be a bit expensive ;D
but you guys could buy Ola John for a good price heheh, young talent, but not much room because of Salvio, Gaitan and Markovic
you guys might not know Markovic very well, but you guys will be seeing shining in Engalnd or Spain in 1 or 2 years.... this kid is a amazing, and we'll have trouble keeping him for long, he seems like a mini Messi
ok, thanks for the commercial break :) i'll copy and send to beppe marotta, our CEO
;D ;D ;D
ok, but don't forget to tell them if we make bussiness I want my commission >:(
of course...you just prepare the invoice...
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:58
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:54
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:48
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:45
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:23
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:16
hi guys, i hope we're about to see two great matches with no controversy or complaints... just win the best
p.s. you've got a couple of players i'd really like to see playing in black and white but your shop is very expensive eheheh
;D ;D
Um adepto da juventus dizer isto é engraçado.
why you say so? :)
Because of our last match against you, back in 93.
1993...i was still young and pure...it's lives ago...
it is likely that he did not understand a shit :2funny:
I answered without understanding anything :2funny:
In 1993, if I remember correctly, we played against Benfica in the UEFA Cup (2-1 benfica-juve, juve-Benfica 3-0) ... then we won the cup :whistle2:
True.
Remember the first goal you scored against us in the second leg?
But ok, this things happen.
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
Sousa,
Um Benfiquista em Turim tem um clube. Torino.
Esse é o principal clube da cidade de Turim e que a nós Benfiquistas nos diz muito.
True.
One of my first memories in football was that 3-0 in Torino ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZarMvC3XUU )
In fact the first goal of Juve was fault and injured our goalkeeper. that destroy the rest of the game.
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
Sousa,
Um Benfiquista em Turim tem um clube. Torino.
Esse é o principal clube da cidade de Turim e que a nós Benfiquistas nos diz muito.
Turin is black and white...furthermore there's some funny crazy pathetic person wearing dark red colors...
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:10
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:58
it is likely that he did not understand a shit :2funny:
I answered without understanding anything :2funny:
In 1993, if I remember correctly, we played against Benfica in the UEFA Cup (2-1 benfica-juve, juve-Benfica 3-0) ... then we won the cup :whistle2:
True.
Remember the first goal you scored against us in the second leg?
But ok, this things happen.
I reviewed the pictures ... maybe you're referring to ko Dino Baggio scored by your goalkeeper?
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:14
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
Sousa,
Um Benfiquista em Turim tem um clube. Torino.
Esse é o principal clube da cidade de Turim e que a nós Benfiquistas nos diz muito.
Turin is black and white...furthermore there's some funny crazy pathetic person wearing dark red colors...
Ainda querem que eu goste destes palermas
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:14
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
Sousa,
Um Benfiquista em Turim tem um clube. Torino.
Esse é o principal clube da cidade de Turim e que a nós Benfiquistas nos diz muito.
Turin is black and white...furthermore there's some funny crazy pathetic person wearing dark red colors...
Forza Toro. Always supporting them since I knew about Superga... Was awfull. And I saw that some idiots from Drugghi were joking on it with a banner a few days ago... But ofc I recognize that you are a great club.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:07
i know that...but i dont remember any particular complaint or backstage controversy....
[/quote]
to be honest, even I remember nothing ... :confused:
as indeed do not remember any controversy of the port to basel. :confused::confused:
[/quote]
I'll be honest with you, I hate porto, the only club I really hate, but they have some reason.
But you deserved to win that final and I happy you did.
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:18
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:14
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
Sousa,
Um Benfiquista em Turim tem um clube. Torino.
Esse é o principal clube da cidade de Turim e que a nós Benfiquistas nos diz muito.
Turin is black and white...furthermore there's some funny crazy pathetic person wearing dark red colors...
Ainda querem que eu goste destes palermas
Oh, eu também não simpatizo, mas este comentário seria o que tu farias relativamente ao Sporting num fórum da Juve ;D
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:15
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:10
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:58
it is likely that he did not understand a shit :2funny:
I answered without understanding anything :2funny:
In 1993, if I remember correctly, we played against Benfica in the UEFA Cup (2-1 benfica-juve, juve-Benfica 3-0) ... then we won the cup :whistle2:
True.
Remember the first goal you scored against us in the second leg?
But ok, this things happen.
I reviewed the pictures ... maybe you're referring to ko Dino Baggio scored by your goalkeeper?
I recall Kohler broke our keepers nose and then Juventus scored...
But ok.
Citação de: VivaoBenfica em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:19
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:18
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:14
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
Sousa,
Um Benfiquista em Turim tem um clube. Torino.
Esse é o principal clube da cidade de Turim e que a nós Benfiquistas nos diz muito.
Turin is black and white...furthermore there's some funny crazy pathetic person wearing dark red colors...
Ainda querem que eu goste destes palermas
Oh, eu também não simpatizo, mas este comentário seria o que tu farias relativamente ao Sporting num fórum da Juve ;D
Está bem. Mas quando um lagarto te diz que o principal clube da cidade de Lisboa é o Sporting não deixa de ser um disparate.
Estes gajos da Juve não valem nada.
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:10
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:58
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:54
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:48
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:45
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:23
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 14:16
hi guys, i hope we're about to see two great matches with no controversy or complaints... just win the best
p.s. you've got a couple of players i'd really like to see playing in black and white but your shop is very expensive eheheh
;D ;D
Um adepto da juventus dizer isto é engraçado.
why you say so? :)
Because of our last match against you, back in 93.
1993...i was still young and pure...it's lives ago...
it is likely that he did not understand a shit :2funny:
I answered without understanding anything :2funny:
In 1993, if I remember correctly, we played against Benfica in the UEFA Cup (2-1 benfica-juve, juve-Benfica 3-0) ... then we won the cup :whistle2:
True.
Remember the first goal you scored against us in the second leg?
But ok, this things happen.
things happen to ev'ry team, like the mud we had to play in at Istambul this year, like a game we had to play in the storm in 2000 at perugia when we lost a title... and many other events, positive and negative...
we have two old glorious teams with a long story and things happen...in good and in bad...
Citação de: VivaoBenfica em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:18
Forza Toro. Always supporting them since I knew about Superga... Was awfull. And I saw that some idiots from Drugghi were joking on it with a banner a few days ago... But ofc I recognize that you are a great club.
There are idiots everywhere, in Italy and Portugal.
When people die, there are no colors, flags and other things like that.
Respect for their souls.
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:18
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:14
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
Sousa,
Um Benfiquista em Turim tem um clube. Torino.
Esse é o principal clube da cidade de Turim e que a nós Benfiquistas nos diz muito.
Turin is black and white...furthermore there's some funny crazy pathetic person wearing dark red colors...
Ainda querem que eu goste destes palermas
não tens que gostar, podes ignorar, este tópico foi feito com intuito de se poder ter uma conversa agradável com eles sem estar com cenas. para quem quer, ninguém é forçado a vir para aqui
eles não podem comentar no geral porque são insultados
Citação de: VivaoBenfica em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:18
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:14
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
Sousa,
Um Benfiquista em Turim tem um clube. Torino.
Esse é o principal clube da cidade de Turim e que a nós Benfiquistas nos diz muito.
Turin is black and white...furthermore there's some funny crazy pathetic person wearing dark red colors...
Forza Toro. Always supporting them since I knew about Superga... Was awfull. And I saw that some idiots from Drugghi were joking on it with a banner a few days ago... But ofc I recognize that you are a great club.
stupids one are ev'rywhere...there's some idiots from torino fans and not only who sing the praises of the heysel tragedy...so what?
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:26
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:18
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:14
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
Sousa,
Um Benfiquista em Turim tem um clube. Torino.
Esse é o principal clube da cidade de Turim e que a nós Benfiquistas nos diz muito.
Turin is black and white...furthermore there's some funny crazy pathetic person wearing dark red colors...
Ainda querem que eu goste destes palermas
não tens que gostar, podes ignorar, este tópico foi feito com intuito de se poder ter uma conversa agradável com eles sem estar com cenas. para quem quer, ninguém é forçado a vir para aqui
eles não podem comentar no geral porque são insultados
Eu detesto a juve. Talvez tu é que estejas certo, mas eu detesto estes gajos.
E como vês, eles também não se coibem de insultar quem quer que seja.
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:21
I recall Kohler broke our keepers nose and then Juventus scored...
But ok.
I think it was Dino Baggio to roll out your goalkeeper.
I was thinking of a goal scored in an offside position ... that's why I did not remember anything
My friends juventinos now it's time for the final of Uefa Youth League (competition where Juve also was present).
If you want see Benfica win this important tournament I give you this link: http://gofirstrow.eu/watch/254051/1/watch-sl-benfica-vs-fc-barcelona,-youth.html
:)
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:30
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:26
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:18
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:14
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
Sousa,
Um Benfiquista em Turim tem um clube. Torino.
Esse é o principal clube da cidade de Turim e que a nós Benfiquistas nos diz muito.
Turin is black and white...furthermore there's some funny crazy pathetic person wearing dark red colors...
Ainda querem que eu goste destes palermas
não tens que gostar, podes ignorar, este tópico foi feito com intuito de se poder ter uma conversa agradável com eles sem estar com cenas. para quem quer, ninguém é forçado a vir para aqui
eles não podem comentar no geral porque são insultados
Eu detesto a juve. Talvez tu é que estejas certo, mas eu detesto estes gajos.
E como vês, eles também não se coibem de insultar que quer que seja.
hey ya, if you have something to say you can, without hidin' behind your portuguese...i'll be glad to give you all of my attention
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:30
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:26
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:18
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:14
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
Sousa,
Um Benfiquista em Turim tem um clube. Torino.
Esse é o principal clube da cidade de Turim e que a nós Benfiquistas nos diz muito.
Turin is black and white...furthermore there's some funny crazy pathetic person wearing dark red colors...
Ainda querem que eu goste destes palermas
não tens que gostar, podes ignorar, este tópico foi feito com intuito de se poder ter uma conversa agradável com eles sem estar com cenas. para quem quer, ninguém é forçado a vir para aqui
eles não podem comentar no geral porque são insultados
Eu detesto a juve. Talvez tu é que estejas certo, mas eu detesto estes gajos.
E como vês, eles também não se coibem de insultar que quer que seja.
o Darkboy fez este tópico para podermos falar com eles sem estar com coisas
"Expectations, worries, domestic campaigns, squad analysis, historical moments, all of that in here.
No trash talk."
eu li o fórum deles e muitos mostraram respeito plo Benfica, muitos até torceram para que o Benfica ganhasse a final da LE no ano passado
mas claro, depois de virem para aqui e serem insultados mudaram de opinião
não faz sentido estar com estas conversas aqui, não vai levar a nada e não mudar em nada
Citação de: Vitor84 em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:32
My friends juventinos now it's time for the final of Uefa Youth League (competition where Juve also was present).
If you want see Benfica win this important tournament I give you this link: http://gofirstrow.eu/watch/254051/1/watch-sl-benfica-vs-fc-barcelona,-youth.html
:)
We failed there ... as well as the first team :cry2:
Are there any Juventus players unavailable? Or will they field their best players against us?
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:35
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:30
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:26
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:18
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:14
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
Sousa,
Um Benfiquista em Turim tem um clube. Torino.
Esse é o principal clube da cidade de Turim e que a nós Benfiquistas nos diz muito.
Turin is black and white...furthermore there's some funny crazy pathetic person wearing dark red colors...
Ainda querem que eu goste destes palermas
não tens que gostar, podes ignorar, este tópico foi feito com intuito de se poder ter uma conversa agradável com eles sem estar com cenas. para quem quer, ninguém é forçado a vir para aqui
eles não podem comentar no geral porque são insultados
Eu detesto a juve. Talvez tu é que estejas certo, mas eu detesto estes gajos.
E como vês, eles também não se coibem de insultar que quer que seja.
hey ya, if you have something to say you can, without hidin' behind your portuguese...i'll be glad to give you all of my attention
Amigo,
Em portugal falámos português.
Desfruta da tua estadia pelo fórum.
Abraço
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:38
Are there any Juventus players unavailable? Or will they field their best players against us?
a little bit of apprehension for Vidal
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:41
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:38
Are there any Juventus players unavailable? Or will they field their best players against us?
a little bit of apprehension for Vidal
Possible injury?
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:38
Are there any Juventus players unavailable? Or will they field their best players against us?
barzagli in in doubt.... but we'll probably have the best starting 11...
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:41
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:38
Are there any Juventus players unavailable? Or will they field their best players against us?
barzagli in in doubt.... but we'll probably have the best starting 11...
I see. So no key players got yellow cards in their last game.
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:35
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:30
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:26
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:18
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:14
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
Sousa,
Um Benfiquista em Turim tem um clube. Torino.
Esse é o principal clube da cidade de Turim e que a nós Benfiquistas nos diz muito.
Turin is black and white...furthermore there's some funny crazy pathetic person wearing dark red colors...
Ainda querem que eu goste destes palermas
não tens que gostar, podes ignorar, este tópico foi feito com intuito de se poder ter uma conversa agradável com eles sem estar com cenas. para quem quer, ninguém é forçado a vir para aqui
eles não podem comentar no geral porque são insultados
Eu detesto a juve. Talvez tu é que estejas certo, mas eu detesto estes gajos.
E como vês, eles também não se coibem de insultar que quer que seja.
o Darkboy fez este tópico para podermos falar com eles sem estar com coisas
"Expectations, worries, domestic campaigns, squad analysis, historical moments, all of that in here. No trash talk."
eu li o fórum deles e muitos mostraram respeito plo Benfica, muitos até torceram para que o Benfica ganhasse a final da LE no ano passado
mas claro, depois de virem para aqui e serem insultados mudaram de opinião
não faz sentido estar com estas conversas aqui, não vai levar a nada e não mudar em nada
Já disse que provavelmente sou eu que estou errado.
Não tenho qualquer interesse em estar a insultar os gajos, simplesmente digo que é um clube que não gosto nada.
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:39
Amigo,
Em portugal falámos português.
Desfruta da tua estadia pelo fórum.
Abraço
Excuse me if I do not understand.
but if you claim that we speak a Portuguese perfect, you deceive yourself.
better to speak in English and not in google Portuguese. :2funny:
Moreover, this section is done on purpose, right?
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:42
I see. So no key players got yellow cards in their last game.
I do not know ... :confused:
Lucypehr you are up to date? :)
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:39
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:35
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:30
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:26
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:18
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:14
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
Sousa,
Um Benfiquista em Turim tem um clube. Torino.
Esse é o principal clube da cidade de Turim e que a nós Benfiquistas nos diz muito.
Turin is black and white...furthermore there's some funny crazy pathetic person wearing dark red colors...
Ainda querem que eu goste destes palermas
não tens que gostar, podes ignorar, este tópico foi feito com intuito de se poder ter uma conversa agradável com eles sem estar com cenas. para quem quer, ninguém é forçado a vir para aqui
eles não podem comentar no geral porque são insultados
Eu detesto a juve. Talvez tu é que estejas certo, mas eu detesto estes gajos.
E como vês, eles também não se coibem de insultar que quer que seja.
hey ya, if you have something to say you can, without hidin' behind your portuguese...i'll be glad to give you all of my attention
Amigo,
Em portugal falámos português.
Desfruta da tua estadia pelo fórum.
Abraço
in the english board we'd be supposed to write in english...i understand that you hate juventus and juventus fans and penguins and whatever is in black and white and it's not a problem, at all, but i'd like you to tell me in person...
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:47
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:42
I see. So no key players got yellow cards in their last game.
I do not know ... :confused:
Lucypehr you are up to date? :)
sorry but i dont know at the moment....too focused on the next two key games, a win over udinese and bologna would give us the chance to stay focused 100% on benfica...
I never studied Italian and went to Italy several times. Always understood you cause the language is not very different from ours, they're both Latin tongs.
By the way, loved all the cities visited, Florenza, Venezia, Roma, Milano. Beautiful country.
Also been to Sardegna.
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:52
I never studied Italian and went to Italy several times. Always understood you cause the language is not very different from ours, they're both Latin tongs.
By the way, loved all the cities visited, Florenza, Venezia, Roma, Milano. Beautiful country.
Also been to Sardegna.
I've only been to Como, Sirmione and Verona myself. Sirmione was quite a nice surprise.
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:48
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:39
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:35
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:30
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:26
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:18
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:14
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
Sousa,
Um Benfiquista em Turim tem um clube. Torino.
Esse é o principal clube da cidade de Turim e que a nós Benfiquistas nos diz muito.
Turin is black and white...furthermore there's some funny crazy pathetic person wearing dark red colors...
Ainda querem que eu goste destes palermas
não tens que gostar, podes ignorar, este tópico foi feito com intuito de se poder ter uma conversa agradável com eles sem estar com cenas. para quem quer, ninguém é forçado a vir para aqui
eles não podem comentar no geral porque são insultados
Eu detesto a juve. Talvez tu é que estejas certo, mas eu detesto estes gajos.
E como vês, eles também não se coibem de insultar que quer que seja.
hey ya, if you have something to say you can, without hidin' behind your portuguese...i'll be glad to give you all of my attention
Amigo,
Em portugal falámos português.
Desfruta da tua estadia pelo fórum.
Abraço
in the english board we'd be supposed to write in english...i understand that you hate juventus and juventus fans and penguins and whatever is in black and white and it's not a problem, at all, but i'd like you to tell me in person...
Why penguins and not zebras? :confused:
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:54
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:48
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:39
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:35
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:30
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:26
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:18
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:14
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
Sousa,
Um Benfiquista em Turim tem um clube. Torino.
Esse é o principal clube da cidade de Turim e que a nós Benfiquistas nos diz muito.
Turin is black and white...furthermore there's some funny crazy pathetic person wearing dark red colors...
Ainda querem que eu goste destes palermas
não tens que gostar, podes ignorar, este tópico foi feito com intuito de se poder ter uma conversa agradável com eles sem estar com cenas. para quem quer, ninguém é forçado a vir para aqui
eles não podem comentar no geral porque são insultados
Eu detesto a juve. Talvez tu é que estejas certo, mas eu detesto estes gajos.
E como vês, eles também não se coibem de insultar que quer que seja.
hey ya, if you have something to say you can, without hidin' behind your portuguese...i'll be glad to give you all of my attention
Amigo,
Em portugal falámos português.
Desfruta da tua estadia pelo fórum.
Abraço
in the english board we'd be supposed to write in english...i understand that you hate juventus and juventus fans and penguins and whatever is in black and white and it's not a problem, at all, but i'd like you to tell me in person...
Why penguins and not zebras? :confused:
More importantly, how the hell can anyone hate penguins?!
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:42
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:35
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:30
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:26
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:18
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:14
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
Sousa,
Um Benfiquista em Turim tem um clube. Torino.
Esse é o principal clube da cidade de Turim e que a nós Benfiquistas nos diz muito.
Turin is black and white...furthermore there's some funny crazy pathetic person wearing dark red colors...
Ainda querem que eu goste destes palermas
não tens que gostar, podes ignorar, este tópico foi feito com intuito de se poder ter uma conversa agradável com eles sem estar com cenas. para quem quer, ninguém é forçado a vir para aqui
eles não podem comentar no geral porque são insultados
Eu detesto a juve. Talvez tu é que estejas certo, mas eu detesto estes gajos.
E como vês, eles também não se coibem de insultar que quer que seja.
o Darkboy fez este tópico para podermos falar com eles sem estar com coisas
"Expectations, worries, domestic campaigns, squad analysis, historical moments, all of that in here. No trash talk."
eu li o fórum deles e muitos mostraram respeito plo Benfica, muitos até torceram para que o Benfica ganhasse a final da LE no ano passado
mas claro, depois de virem para aqui e serem insultados mudaram de opinião
não faz sentido estar com estas conversas aqui, não vai levar a nada e não mudar em nada
Já disse que provavelmente sou eu que estou errado.
Não tenho qualquer interesse em estar a insultar os gajos, simplesmente digo que é um clube que não gosto nada.
estás no teu direito de não gostar O0
apenas estava a tentar evitar que acontecesse aqui o aconteceu no geral ;D
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:54
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:48
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:39
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:35
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:30
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:26
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:18
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:14
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
Sousa,
Um Benfiquista em Turim tem um clube. Torino.
Esse é o principal clube da cidade de Turim e que a nós Benfiquistas nos diz muito.
Turin is black and white...furthermore there's some funny crazy pathetic person wearing dark red colors...
Ainda querem que eu goste destes palermas
não tens que gostar, podes ignorar, este tópico foi feito com intuito de se poder ter uma conversa agradável com eles sem estar com cenas. para quem quer, ninguém é forçado a vir para aqui
eles não podem comentar no geral porque são insultados
Eu detesto a juve. Talvez tu é que estejas certo, mas eu detesto estes gajos.
E como vês, eles também não se coibem de insultar que quer que seja.
hey ya, if you have something to say you can, without hidin' behind your portuguese...i'll be glad to give you all of my attention
Amigo,
Em portugal falámos português.
Desfruta da tua estadia pelo fórum.
Abraço
in the english board we'd be supposed to write in english...i understand that you hate juventus and juventus fans and penguins and whatever is in black and white and it's not a problem, at all, but i'd like you to tell me in person...
Why penguins and not zebras? :confused:
eheheh i guess zebras are included in "whatever in black and white"
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:53
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:52
I never studied Italian and went to Italy several times. Always understood you cause the language is not very different from ours, they're both Latin tongs.
By the way, loved all the cities visited, Florenza, Venezia, Roma, Milano. Beautiful country.
Also been to Sardegna.
I've only been to Como, Sirmione and Verona myself. Sirmione was quite a nice surprise.
Forgot Verona... Also been there and also very nice.
Also met some interesting Italian girls.
it's now
go kids, score against Barça :cheerleaders:
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:55
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:54
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:48
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:39
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:35
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:30
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:26
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:18
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:14
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
Sousa,
Um Benfiquista em Turim tem um clube. Torino.
Esse é o principal clube da cidade de Turim e que a nós Benfiquistas nos diz muito.
Turin is black and white...furthermore there's some funny crazy pathetic person wearing dark red colors...
Ainda querem que eu goste destes palermas
não tens que gostar, podes ignorar, este tópico foi feito com intuito de se poder ter uma conversa agradável com eles sem estar com cenas. para quem quer, ninguém é forçado a vir para aqui
eles não podem comentar no geral porque são insultados
Eu detesto a juve. Talvez tu é que estejas certo, mas eu detesto estes gajos.
E como vês, eles também não se coibem de insultar que quer que seja.
hey ya, if you have something to say you can, without hidin' behind your portuguese...i'll be glad to give you all of my attention
Amigo,
Em portugal falámos português.
Desfruta da tua estadia pelo fórum.
Abraço
in the english board we'd be supposed to write in english...i understand that you hate juventus and juventus fans and penguins and whatever is in black and white and it's not a problem, at all, but i'd like you to tell me in person...
Why penguins and not zebras? :confused:
More importantly, how the hell can anyone hate penguins?!
My mother had a real penguin when she was a child... True shit.
It used to bite her a lot...
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:52
I never studied Italian and went to Italy several times. Always understood you cause the language is not very different from ours, they're both Latin tongs.
By the way, loved all the cities visited, Florenza, Venezia, Roma, Milano. Beautiful country.
Also been to Sardegna.
just bit similar but enough different
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:56
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:53
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:52
I never studied Italian and went to Italy several times. Always understood you cause the language is not very different from ours, they're both Latin tongs.
By the way, loved all the cities visited, Florenza, Venezia, Roma, Milano. Beautiful country.
Also been to Sardegna.
I've only been to Como, Sirmione and Verona myself. Sirmione was quite a nice surprise.
Forgot Verona... Also been there and also very nice.
Also met some interesting Italian girls.
In London, outside the British Museum, I saw 3 really good looking Italian girls. One of them carried a Juventus umbrella with her.
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:48
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:39
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:35
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:30
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:26
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:18
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:14
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
Sousa,
Um Benfiquista em Turim tem um clube. Torino.
Esse é o principal clube da cidade de Turim e que a nós Benfiquistas nos diz muito.
Turin is black and white...furthermore there's some funny crazy pathetic person wearing dark red colors...
Ainda querem que eu goste destes palermas
não tens que gostar, podes ignorar, este tópico foi feito com intuito de se poder ter uma conversa agradável com eles sem estar com cenas. para quem quer, ninguém é forçado a vir para aqui
eles não podem comentar no geral porque são insultados
Eu detesto a juve. Talvez tu é que estejas certo, mas eu detesto estes gajos.
E como vês, eles também não se coibem de insultar que quer que seja.
hey ya, if you have something to say you can, without hidin' behind your portuguese...i'll be glad to give you all of my attention
Amigo,
Em portugal falámos português.
Desfruta da tua estadia pelo fórum.
Abraço
in the english board we'd be supposed to write in english...i understand that you hate juventus and juventus fans and penguins and whatever is in black and white and it's not a problem, at all, but i'd like you to tell me in person...
;D
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:55
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:54
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:48
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:39
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:35
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:30
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:26
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:18
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:14
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
Sousa,
Um Benfiquista em Turim tem um clube. Torino.
Esse é o principal clube da cidade de Turim e que a nós Benfiquistas nos diz muito.
Turin is black and white...furthermore there's some funny crazy pathetic person wearing dark red colors...
Ainda querem que eu goste destes palermas
não tens que gostar, podes ignorar, este tópico foi feito com intuito de se poder ter uma conversa agradável com eles sem estar com cenas. para quem quer, ninguém é forçado a vir para aqui
eles não podem comentar no geral porque são insultados
Eu detesto a juve. Talvez tu é que estejas certo, mas eu detesto estes gajos.
E como vês, eles também não se coibem de insultar que quer que seja.
hey ya, if you have something to say you can, without hidin' behind your portuguese...i'll be glad to give you all of my attention
Amigo,
Em portugal falámos português.
Desfruta da tua estadia pelo fórum.
Abraço
in the english board we'd be supposed to write in english...i understand that you hate juventus and juventus fans and penguins and whatever is in black and white and it's not a problem, at all, but i'd like you to tell me in person...
Why penguins and not zebras? :confused:
More importantly, how the hell can anyone hate penguins?!
the look like butlers.... icon of prosperity and nose in the air...
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:58
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:55
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:54
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:48
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:39
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:35
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:30
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:26
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:18
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:14
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
Sousa,
Um Benfiquista em Turim tem um clube. Torino.
Esse é o principal clube da cidade de Turim e que a nós Benfiquistas nos diz muito.
Turin is black and white...furthermore there's some funny crazy pathetic person wearing dark red colors...
Ainda querem que eu goste destes palermas
não tens que gostar, podes ignorar, este tópico foi feito com intuito de se poder ter uma conversa agradável com eles sem estar com cenas. para quem quer, ninguém é forçado a vir para aqui
eles não podem comentar no geral porque são insultados
Eu detesto a juve. Talvez tu é que estejas certo, mas eu detesto estes gajos.
E como vês, eles também não se coibem de insultar que quer que seja.
hey ya, if you have something to say you can, without hidin' behind your portuguese...i'll be glad to give you all of my attention
Amigo,
Em portugal falámos português.
Desfruta da tua estadia pelo fórum.
Abraço
in the english board we'd be supposed to write in english...i understand that you hate juventus and juventus fans and penguins and whatever is in black and white and it's not a problem, at all, but i'd like you to tell me in person...
Why penguins and not zebras? :confused:
More importantly, how the hell can anyone hate penguins?!
My mother had a real penguin when she was a child... True shit.
It used to bite her a lot...
Does your mother happen to be the woman in my avatar?! O_O
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:59
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:58
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:55
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:54
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:48
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:39
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:35
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:30
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:26
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:18
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:14
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
Sousa,
Um Benfiquista em Turim tem um clube. Torino.
Esse é o principal clube da cidade de Turim e que a nós Benfiquistas nos diz muito.
Turin is black and white...furthermore there's some funny crazy pathetic person wearing dark red colors...
Ainda querem que eu goste destes palermas
não tens que gostar, podes ignorar, este tópico foi feito com intuito de se poder ter uma conversa agradável com eles sem estar com cenas. para quem quer, ninguém é forçado a vir para aqui
eles não podem comentar no geral porque são insultados
Eu detesto a juve. Talvez tu é que estejas certo, mas eu detesto estes gajos.
E como vês, eles também não se coibem de insultar que quer que seja.
hey ya, if you have something to say you can, without hidin' behind your portuguese...i'll be glad to give you all of my attention
Amigo,
Em portugal falámos português.
Desfruta da tua estadia pelo fórum.
Abraço
in the english board we'd be supposed to write in english...i understand that you hate juventus and juventus fans and penguins and whatever is in black and white and it's not a problem, at all, but i'd like you to tell me in person...
Why penguins and not zebras? :confused:
More importantly, how the hell can anyone hate penguins?!
My mother had a real penguin when she was a child... True shit.
It used to bite her a lot...
Does your mother happen to be the woman in my avatar?! O_O
Not at all.
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:56
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:53
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:52
I never studied Italian and went to Italy several times. Always understood you cause the language is not very different from ours, they're both Latin tongs.
By the way, loved all the cities visited, Florenza, Venezia, Roma, Milano. Beautiful country.
Also been to Sardegna.
I've only been to Como, Sirmione and Verona myself. Sirmione was quite a nice surprise.
Forgot Verona... Also been there and also very nice.
Also met some interesting Italian girls.
i never met a portuguese girl but i think that latin girls are usually very... tasty
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 16:01
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:59
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:58
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:55
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:54
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:48
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:39
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:35
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:30
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:26
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:18
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:14
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
Sousa,
Um Benfiquista em Turim tem um clube. Torino.
Esse é o principal clube da cidade de Turim e que a nós Benfiquistas nos diz muito.
Turin is black and white...furthermore there's some funny crazy pathetic person wearing dark red colors...
Ainda querem que eu goste destes palermas
não tens que gostar, podes ignorar, este tópico foi feito com intuito de se poder ter uma conversa agradável com eles sem estar com cenas. para quem quer, ninguém é forçado a vir para aqui
eles não podem comentar no geral porque são insultados
Eu detesto a juve. Talvez tu é que estejas certo, mas eu detesto estes gajos.
E como vês, eles também não se coibem de insultar que quer que seja.
hey ya, if you have something to say you can, without hidin' behind your portuguese...i'll be glad to give you all of my attention
Amigo,
Em portugal falámos português.
Desfruta da tua estadia pelo fórum.
Abraço
in the english board we'd be supposed to write in english...i understand that you hate juventus and juventus fans and penguins and whatever is in black and white and it's not a problem, at all, but i'd like you to tell me in person...
Why penguins and not zebras? :confused:
More importantly, how the hell can anyone hate penguins?!
My mother had a real penguin when she was a child... True shit.
It used to bite her a lot...
Does your mother happen to be the woman in my avatar?! O_O
Not at all.
So she didn't name her penguin "Pen Pen"?
http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Pen_Pen
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:59
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:56
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:53
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:52
I never studied Italian and went to Italy several times. Always understood you cause the language is not very different from ours, they're both Latin tongs.
By the way, loved all the cities visited, Florenza, Venezia, Roma, Milano. Beautiful country.
Also been to Sardegna.
I've only been to Como, Sirmione and Verona myself. Sirmione was quite a nice surprise.
Forgot Verona... Also been there and also very nice.
Also met some interesting Italian girls.
In London, outside the British Museum, I saw 3 really good looking Italian girls. One of them carried a Juventus umbrella with her.
when i see a good looking girl, from ev'rywhere, i dont think so much of the colors she wears but how to keep those colors from her :)
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 16:02
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:56
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:53
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:52
I never studied Italian and went to Italy several times. Always understood you cause the language is not very different from ours, they're both Latin tongs.
By the way, loved all the cities visited, Florenza, Venezia, Roma, Milano. Beautiful country.
Also been to Sardegna.
I've only been to Como, Sirmione and Verona myself. Sirmione was quite a nice surprise.
Forgot Verona... Also been there and also very nice.
Also met some interesting Italian girls.
i never met a portuguese girl but i think that latin girls are usually very... tasty
I don't know what you're missing.
But I guess Italian girl are a bit more open... If you know what I mean...
Not exactly a girl anymore, but Monica Bellucci still puts many half her age to shame.
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 16:06
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 16:02
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:56
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:53
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:52
I never studied Italian and went to Italy several times. Always understood you cause the language is not very different from ours, they're both Latin tongs.
By the way, loved all the cities visited, Florenza, Venezia, Roma, Milano. Beautiful country.
Also been to Sardegna.
I've only been to Como, Sirmione and Verona myself. Sirmione was quite a nice surprise.
Forgot Verona... Also been there and also very nice.
Also met some interesting Italian girls.
i never met a portuguese girl but i think that latin girls are usually very... tasty
I don't know what you're missing.
But I guess Italian girl are a bit more open... If you know what I mean...
not missin' anything, so good as i am, just curiosity...and i can be curious cause i'm not a cat :)
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 16:09
Not exactly a girl anymore, but Monica Bellucci still puts many half her age to shame.
beautiful woman...
benfica, juventus, Italy, Portugal ... all you want, but when it comes to women, there are no divisions.
we are all fans of the pussy :2funny:
ok guys...see you soon, pleased to meet you...ev'ryone, and i'm not jokin'
byebye
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 16:06
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 16:02
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:56
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:53
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:52
I never studied Italian and went to Italy several times. Always understood you cause the language is not very different from ours, they're both Latin tongs.
By the way, loved all the cities visited, Florenza, Venezia, Roma, Milano. Beautiful country.
Also been to Sardegna.
I've only been to Como, Sirmione and Verona myself. Sirmione was quite a nice surprise.
Forgot Verona... Also been there and also very nice.
Also met some interesting Italian girls.
i never met a portuguese girl but i think that latin girls are usually very... tasty
I don't know what you're missing.
But I guess Italian girl are a bit more open... If you know what I mean...
i think you are really wrong about that
Citação de: the mentalist em 14 de Abril de 2014, 16:17
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 16:06
Citação de: lucypher em 14 de Abril de 2014, 16:02
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:56
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:53
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:52
I never studied Italian and went to Italy several times. Always understood you cause the language is not very different from ours, they're both Latin tongs.
By the way, loved all the cities visited, Florenza, Venezia, Roma, Milano. Beautiful country.
Also been to Sardegna.
I've only been to Como, Sirmione and Verona myself. Sirmione was quite a nice surprise.
Forgot Verona... Also been there and also very nice.
Also met some interesting Italian girls.
i never met a portuguese girl but i think that latin girls are usually very... tasty
I don't know what you're missing.
But I guess Italian girl are a bit more open... If you know what I mean...
i think you are really wrong about that
C'mon, even I got laid...
I would like to know if in Portugal (as in Italy), the error of an arbitrator is used to make controversy for weeks or talk about it the right and pass on ...
In Italy every episode in favor of juve is taken as a pretext to destroy us, but when there are unfavorable episodes us not talk about it.
an excerpt from the interview with marcello lippi
Favored Juventus in the Europa League?
"Yes. Benfica, Valencia and Seville are good teams, but Juventus has something more in technical terms. In addition to having special reasons. One in particular. The ambition - only - to be able to play the final at home. "It within the limits."
Share this?
Juventus is obviously favorite for the tie, and the whole pressure to go through is on them, but we have a real chance of beating you.
And the more you underestimate us, the better. I thank Pirlo and Llorente for having done that already.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 17:21
I would like to know if in Portugal (as in Italy), the error of an arbitrator is used to make controversy for weeks or talk about it the right and pass on ...
In Italy every episode in favor of juve is taken as a pretext to destroy us, but when there are unfavorable episodes us not talk about it.
Yes, exactly what happens here regarding us.
Sousa, when you have the time and the patience, could you write more about our historical friendly relationship with Real Madrid? Perhaps in the Spanish league subforum.
Citação de: Gottschalk em 14 de Abril de 2014, 17:33
Juventus is obviously favorite for the tie, and the whole pressure to go through is on them, but we have a real chance of beating you.
And the more you underestimate us, the better. I thank Pirlo and Llorente for having done that already.
Being honest, watched every single European match Juve played this year and I don't share your opinion.
But hell yeah, great they underestimate us.
Citação de: Gottschalk em 14 de Abril de 2014, 17:34
Sousa, when you have the time and the patience, could you write more about our historical friendly relationship with Real Madrid? Perhaps in the Spanish league subforum.
I've done that many times.
Last week wrote about it in the European competitions topic.
As you might know, even Eusébio played for them once.
Santiago Bernabéu adored us. Every year he phoned us to ask if we needed something and wishing good luck for the season.
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 17:41
Citação de: Gottschalk em 14 de Abril de 2014, 17:34
Sousa, when you have the time and the patience, could you write more about our historical friendly relationship with Real Madrid? Perhaps in the Spanish league subforum.
I've done that many times.
Last week wrote about it in the European competitions topic.
As you might know, even Eusébio played for them once.
Santiago Bernabéu adored us. Every year he phoned us to ask if we needed something and wishing good luck for the season.
That I know.
I was more interested in knowing the pre-1960's history between us and them.
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 17:37
Citação de: Gottschalk em 14 de Abril de 2014, 17:33
Juventus is obviously favorite for the tie, and the whole pressure to go through is on them, but we have a real chance of beating you.
And the more you underestimate us, the better. I thank Pirlo and Llorente for having done that already.
Being honest, watched every single European match Juve played this year and I don't share your opinion.
But hell yeah, great they underestimate us.
You don't share the opinion that they're favorite?
I think they being favorite works in our favor.
Citação de: Gottschalk em 14 de Abril de 2014, 17:46
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 17:41
Citação de: Gottschalk em 14 de Abril de 2014, 17:34
Sousa, when you have the time and the patience, could you write more about our historical friendly relationship with Real Madrid? Perhaps in the Spanish league subforum.
I've done that many times.
Last week wrote about it in the European competitions topic.
As you might know, even Eusébio played for them once.
Santiago Bernabéu adored us. Every year he phoned us to ask if we needed something and wishing good luck for the season.
That I know.
I was more interested in knowing the pre-1960's history between us and them.
When I get the time and patience I'll write about it.
I learned at this time that the Benfica lost the final of the CL youth ...
barcelona-benfica 3-0
Thanks, you're the best.
Do you have any material you can link me to?
Citação de: Gottschalk em 14 de Abril de 2014, 17:48
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 17:37
Citação de: Gottschalk em 14 de Abril de 2014, 17:33
Juventus is obviously favorite for the tie, and the whole pressure to go through is on them, but we have a real chance of beating you.
And the more you underestimate us, the better. I thank Pirlo and Llorente for having done that already.
Being honest, watched every single European match Juve played this year and I don't share your opinion.
But hell yeah, great they underestimate us.
You don't share the opinion that they're favorite?
I think they being favorite works in our favor.
Nope.
But football is like a woman, always full of surprises.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 17:52
I learned at this time that the Benfica lost the final of the CL youth ...
barcelona-benfica 3-0
That's just life. But played well.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 17:52
I learned at this time that the Benfica lost the final of the CL youth ...
barcelona-benfica 3-0
yeah :(
it was a pretty good match, intense
and I liked our youngster, good talent there
we played better overall but luck was not on our side, we even missed a penalty, and they made their chances count
Barça also has a good team, that Traoré guy is a beast
Citação de: Gottschalk em 14 de Abril de 2014, 17:52
Thanks, you're the best.
Do you have any material you can link me to?
Right now I don't, but there's a book, only in Spanish with an entire chapter about it.
I'll try to scan and post it in the future.
Hi Juve fans, it will be a great tie, you have players of great quality, my favorite player Pirlo, Chiellini, Buffon, Tevez, Llorente, Vidal, Pogba, Marchisio, Giovinco, Vucinic, all great players, much superior to ours. But our game model is superior. Let's see which one of these two aspects will prevail. Ah and congratulations for your 30th championship. Napoli is a shame (Benitez).
Citação de: PsychoFan em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:10
Hi Juve fans, it will be a great tie, you have players of great quality, my favorite player Pirlo, Chiellini, Buffon, Tevez, Llorente, Vidal, Pogba, Marchisio, Giovinco, Vucinic, all great players, much superior to ours. But our game model is superior. Let's see which one of these two aspects will prevail. Ah and congratulations for your 30th championship. Napoli is a shame (Benitez).
Thanks, but if we win, it will be the 32nd league title :smokin:
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 17:25
an excerpt from the interview with marcello lippi
Favored Juventus in the Europa League?
"Yes. Benfica, Valencia and Seville are good teams, but Juventus has something more in technical terms. In addition to having special reasons. One in particular. The ambition - only - to be able to play the final at home. "It within the limits."
Share this?
having lost last final, we're also really motivated to get to the final and win it, so I'd say we're tied there, in ters of ambition
if this was the final, yeah, you'd definitely have the advantage, since it's only one match and you'd be playing it at home
Juve has a great team, no doubt
and our players might not be as known, but I'd say that we're overall pretty balanced in comparison, maybe not as strong, but close enough
anything can happen... but I'm a bit worried about your style of play, not everyday we face teams playing like that, so I'm unsure how good we'll perform against it
Citação de: PsychoFan em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:10
Hi Juve fans, it will be a great tie, you have players of great quality, my favorite player Pirlo, Chiellini, Buffon, Tevez, Llorente, Vidal, Pogba, Marchisio, Giovinco, Vucinic, all great players, much superior to ours. But our game model is superior. Let's see which one of these two aspects will prevail. Ah and congratulations for your 30th championship. Napoli is a shame (Benitez).
heheh your fav player is the whole team!?! :P
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:20
Citação de: PsychoFan em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:10
Hi Juve fans, it will be a great tie, you have players of great quality, my favorite player Pirlo, Chiellini, Buffon, Tevez, Llorente, Vidal, Pogba, Marchisio, Giovinco, Vucinic, all great players, much superior to ours. But our game model is superior. Let's see which one of these two aspects will prevail. Ah and congratulations for your 30th championship. Napoli is a shame (Benitez).
heheh your fav player is the whole team!?! :P
Pirlo!!
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:15
Citação de: PsychoFan em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:10
Hi Juve fans, it will be a great tie, you have players of great quality, my favorite player Pirlo, Chiellini, Buffon, Tevez, Llorente, Vidal, Pogba, Marchisio, Giovinco, Vucinic, all great players, much superior to ours. But our game model is superior. Let's see which one of these two aspects will prevail. Ah and congratulations for your 30th championship. Napoli is a shame (Benitez).
Thanks, but if we win, it will be the 32nd league title :smokin:
fucking portuguese wikipedia...
Citação de: PsychoFan em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:21
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:20
Citação de: PsychoFan em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:10
Hi Juve fans, it will be a great tie, you have players of great quality, my favorite player Pirlo, Chiellini, Buffon, Tevez, Llorente, Vidal, Pogba, Marchisio, Giovinco, Vucinic, all great players, much superior to ours. But our game model is superior. Let's see which one of these two aspects will prevail. Ah and congratulations for your 30th championship. Napoli is a shame (Benitez).
heheh your fav player is the whole team!?! :P
Pirlo!!
he's awesome
but if Juve gets any freekicks against us, I'm hoping he'll miss them all :angel:
and he can miss all the passes too, that would be nice, I don't mind, it's only against us... he then can go back to his usual self after we're done lol
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:23
Citação de: PsychoFan em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:21
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:20
Citação de: PsychoFan em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:10
Hi Juve fans, it will be a great tie, you have players of great quality, my favorite player Pirlo, Chiellini, Buffon, Tevez, Llorente, Vidal, Pogba, Marchisio, Giovinco, Vucinic, all great players, much superior to ours. But our game model is superior. Let's see which one of these two aspects will prevail. Ah and congratulations for your 30th championship. Napoli is a shame (Benitez).
heheh your fav player is the whole team!?! :P
Pirlo!!
he's awesome
but if Juve gets any freekicks against us, I'm hoping he'll miss them all :angel:
and he can miss all the passes too, that would be nice, I don't mind, it's only against us... he then can go back to his usual self after we're done lol
what we need is contention all the time with him, not give him space to think and execute.
Juventino "speaking portuguese" in the italian football topic! Respect!
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 17:59
Citação de: Gottschalk em 14 de Abril de 2014, 17:52
Thanks, you're the best.
Do you have any material you can link me to?
Right now I don't, but there's a book, only in Spanish with an entire chapter about it.
I'll try to scan and post it in the future.
Thanks, Sousa.
If you can PM to me, it'd be great. Cheers.
Citação de: PsychoFan em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:21
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:15
Citação de: PsychoFan em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:10
Hi Juve fans, it will be a great tie, you have players of great quality, my favorite player Pirlo, Chiellini, Buffon, Tevez, Llorente, Vidal, Pogba, Marchisio, Giovinco, Vucinic, all great players, much superior to ours. But our game model is superior. Let's see which one of these two aspects will prevail. Ah and congratulations for your 30th championship. Napoli is a shame (Benitez).
Thanks, but if we win, it will be the 32nd league title :smokin:
fucking wikipedia...
Kikipedia counts only the titles that are on the official FIGC (Italian Football Federation).
Do not take account of the two titles that have robbed during Farsopoli (Calciopoli).
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:23
Citação de: PsychoFan em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:21
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:20
Citação de: PsychoFan em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:10
Hi Juve fans, it will be a great tie, you have players of great quality, my favorite player Pirlo, Chiellini, Buffon, Tevez, Llorente, Vidal, Pogba, Marchisio, Giovinco, Vucinic, all great players, much superior to ours. But our game model is superior. Let's see which one of these two aspects will prevail. Ah and congratulations for your 30th championship. Napoli is a shame (Benitez).
heheh your fav player is the whole team!?! :P
Pirlo!!
he's awesome
but if Juve gets any freekicks against us, I'm hoping he'll miss them all :angel:
and he can miss all the passes too, that would be nice, I don't mind, it's only against us... he then can go back to his usual self after we're done lol
He won't. It is a good ideia not to give them dangerous free kicks.
Juventino,
Di dove sei?
Citação de: PsychoFan em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:27
Juventino "speaking portuguese" in the italian football topic! Respect!
sorry my google Portuguese ;D
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:30
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Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:15
Citação de: PsychoFan em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:10
Hi Juve fans, it will be a great tie, you have players of great quality, my favorite player Pirlo, Chiellini, Buffon, Tevez, Llorente, Vidal, Pogba, Marchisio, Giovinco, Vucinic, all great players, much superior to ours. But our game model is superior. Let's see which one of these two aspects will prevail. Ah and congratulations for your 30th championship. Napoli is a shame (Benitez).
Thanks, but if we win, it will be the 32nd league title :smokin:
fucking wikipedia...
Kikipedia counts only the titles that are on the official FIGC (Italian Football Federation).
Do not take account of the two titles that have robbed during Farsopoli (Calciopoli).
Ah ok.
Citação de: Gottschalk em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:31
Juventino,
Di dove sei?
I'm from Manduria, little town near Taranto (Puglia) :metal:
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:35
Citação de: Gottschalk em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:31
Juventino,
Di dove sei?
I'm from Manduria, little town near Taranto (Puglia) :metal:
You're from the South! Fiat influence then, right?
(http://i58.tinypic.com/1icvo3.jpg)
:bow2:
Citação de: PsychoFan em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:37
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:35
Citação de: Gottschalk em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:31
Juventino,
Di dove sei?
I'm from Manduria, little town near Taranto (Puglia) :metal:
You're from the South! Fiat influence then, right?
there is a large establishment of fiat in the town of Melfi (Basilicata).
The most important influence, however, have it here in Taranto Ilva (steel) which employs more than 50 thousand workers
God willing, I'm going to take my parents to Italy in September.
It's such a beautiful place. The last time I was there was back in 2010 in Rome.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:46
Citação de: PsychoFan em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:37
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:35
Citação de: Gottschalk em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:31
Juventino,
Di dove sei?
I'm from Manduria, little town near Taranto (Puglia) :metal:
You're from the South! Fiat influence then, right?
there is a large establishment of fiat in the town of Melfi (Basilicata).
The most important influence, however, have it here in Taranto Ilva (steel) which employs more than 50 thousand workers
Hmm, but how you became a Juventus supporter? Being so far from Torino?
Citação de: Gottschalk em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:48
God willing, I'm going to take my parents to Italy in September.
It's such a beautiful place. The last time I was there was back in 2010 in Rome.
I do not understand ...
Bring your parents in Italy in September or you go to find them?
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:53
Citação de: Gottschalk em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:48
God willing, I'm going to take my parents to Italy in September.
It's such a beautiful place. The last time I was there was back in 2010 in Rome.
I do not understand ...
Bring your parents in Italy in September or you go to find them?
;D
Nelle vacanze, andrò con i miei genitori a Italia. Grazie a Dio, loro sono qui con me. Non ho bisogno di andare a trovarli!
Citação de: PsychoFan em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:52
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:46
Citação de: PsychoFan em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:37
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:35
Citação de: Gottschalk em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:31
Juventino,
Di dove sei?
I'm from Manduria, little town near Taranto (Puglia) :metal:
You're from the South! Fiat influence then, right?
there is a large establishment of fiat in the town of Melfi (Basilicata).
The most important influence, however, have it here in Taranto Ilva (steel) which employs more than 50 thousand workers
Hmm, but how you became a Juventus supporter? Being so far from Torino?
the juventus has fans all over Italy.
Whenever the juve playing away is as if playing at home.
Personally, I have become a fan of juve because as a child my cousin told me: "If you say forza juve, I'll buy you an ice-cream" :metal: ;D
Citação de: Gottschalk em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:58
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:53
Citação de: Gottschalk em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:48
God willing, I'm going to take my parents to Italy in September.
It's such a beautiful place. The last time I was there was back in 2010 in Rome.
I do not understand ...
Bring your parents in Italy in September or you go to find them?
;D
Nelle vacanze, andrò con i miei genitori a Italia. Grazie a Dio, loro sono qui con me. Non ho bisogno di andare a trovarli!
ok ... grazie per aver scritto in italiano ;D
Guys, I focus to Udinese-juventus ... good evening to all
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:59
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Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:46
Citação de: PsychoFan em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:37
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:35
Citação de: Gottschalk em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:31
Juventino,
Di dove sei?
I'm from Manduria, little town near Taranto (Puglia) :metal:
You're from the South! Fiat influence then, right?
there is a large establishment of fiat in the town of Melfi (Basilicata).
The most important influence, however, have it here in Taranto Ilva (steel) which employs more than 50 thousand workers
Hmm, but how you became a Juventus supporter? Being so far from Torino?
the juventus has fans all over Italy.
Whenever the juve playing away is as if playing at home.
Personally, I have become a fan of juve because as a child my cousin told me: "If you say forza juve, I'll buy you an ice-cream" :metal: ;D
Yeah I know that, it's just like Benfica, although in your case has much to do with FIAT. Am I right?
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 19:05
Guys, I focus to Udinese-juventus ... good evening to all
cya, and good luck for the match
will watch that match too, hope I can find many weaknesses :smokin:
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 19:14
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 19:05
Guys, I focus to Udinese-juventus ... good evening to all
cya, and good luck for the match
will watch that match too, hope I can find many weaknesses :smokin:
They have many weaknesses.
good match , the best juve of the last 2 months.
Citação de: the mentalist em 14 de Abril de 2014, 21:39
good match , the best juve of the last 2 months.
grats for the win ;)
saw the game, it's gonna be though scoring, you guys defend with many and well D:
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 12:12
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Citação de: pcssousa em 13 de Abril de 2014, 14:58
Citação de: Dandy em 13 de Abril de 2014, 12:30
Actually ... Juventus gave me my first international orgasm.
Who can forget that late afternoon match in May 1984?
Referring to this one, I presume...
(http://www.juvestory.altervista.org/cdc/1984/1984_02.jpg)
And then the defeated team made a replica of the trophy ;D
So did the 1965 european cup runners-up.
Incorrect. The president offered one... Totally different.
And that one never made the trophy room.
I'd say slightly... you say totally. :amigo:
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 21:41
Citação de: the mentalist em 14 de Abril de 2014, 21:39
good match , the best juve of the last 2 months.
grats for the win ;)
saw the game, it's gonna be though scoring, you guys defend with many and well D:
we defend like that because the coach after scored 2 goals prefer defend and counterattack.
Citação de: the mentalist em 14 de Abril de 2014, 21:45
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 21:41
Citação de: the mentalist em 14 de Abril de 2014, 21:39
good match , the best juve of the last 2 months.
grats for the win ;)
saw the game, it's gonna be though scoring, you guys defend with many and well D:
we defend like that because the coach after scored 2 goals prefer defend and counterattack.
I see
I only mentioned that cause I think it is a very strong point of your team
but when the team has the possession of the ball I think it's pretty strong too
Citação de: Red.Fever em 14 de Abril de 2014, 21:52
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Citação de: the mentalist em 14 de Abril de 2014, 21:39
good match , the best juve of the last 2 months.
grats for the win ;)
saw the game, it's gonna be though scoring, you guys defend with many and well D:
we defend like that because the coach after scored 2 goals prefer defend and counterattack.
I see
I only mentioned that cause I think is a very strong point of your team
but when the team has the possession of the ball I think it's pretty strong too
in the last 2 years we did attack a lot much because we had not strong strikers , but this years with tevez and llorente we not need to attack too much for score
Citação de: Vitor84 em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:13
One of my first memories in football was that 3-0 in Torino ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZarMvC3XUU )
In fact the first goal of Juve was fault and injured our goalkeeper. that destroy the rest of the game.
I also remember Koehler ruining Yuran's Achilles tendon with the ref's approval.
Typical UEFA's ruling.
Citação de: the mentalist em 14 de Abril de 2014, 21:57
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good match , the best juve of the last 2 months.
grats for the win ;)
saw the game, it's gonna be though scoring, you guys defend with many and well D:
we defend like that because the coach after scored 2 goals prefer defend and counterattack.
I see
I only mentioned that cause I think is a very strong point of your team
but when the team has the possession of the ball I think it's pretty strong too
in the last 2 years we did attack a lot much because we had not strong strikers , but this years with tevez and llorente we not need to attack too much for score
Tevez scored a lot of goals in Europe this season.
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 22:22
Tevez scored a lot of goals in Europe this season.
lol i was talking about serie a , In champions league we still have to learn a bit and in europa league tevez played just 2 matchs for now.
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 22:22
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good match , the best juve of the last 2 months.
grats for the win ;)
saw the game, it's gonna be though scoring, you guys defend with many and well D:
we defend like that because the coach after scored 2 goals prefer defend and counterattack.
I see
I only mentioned that cause I think is a very strong point of your team
but when the team has the possession of the ball I think it's pretty strong too
in the last 2 years we did attack a lot much because we had not strong strikers , but this years with tevez and llorente we not need to attack too much for score
Tevez scored a lot of goals in Europe this season.
So did Montero (Sportivo di Lisbona).
Citação de: Dandy em 14 de Abril de 2014, 22:31
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Citação de: the mentalist em 14 de Abril de 2014, 21:39
good match , the best juve of the last 2 months.
grats for the win ;)
saw the game, it's gonna be though scoring, you guys defend with many and well D:
we defend like that because the coach after scored 2 goals prefer defend and counterattack.
I see
I only mentioned that cause I think is a very strong point of your team
but when the team has the possession of the ball I think it's pretty strong too
in the last 2 years we did attack a lot much because we had not strong strikers , but this years with tevez and llorente we not need to attack too much for score
Tevez scored a lot of goals in Europe this season.
So did Montero (Sportivo di Lisbona).
The off side master...
Can anyone tell me why did Mourinho once compared Oporto to Sicily?
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:59
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Citação de: PsychoFan em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:37
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:35
Citação de: Gottschalk em 14 de Abril de 2014, 18:31
Juventino,
Di dove sei?
I'm from Manduria, little town near Taranto (Puglia) :metal:
You're from the South! Fiat influence then, right?
there is a large establishment of fiat in the town of Melfi (Basilicata).
The most important influence, however, have it here in Taranto Ilva (steel) which employs more than 50 thousand workers
Hmm, but how you became a Juventus supporter? Being so far from Torino?
the juventus has fans all over Italy.
Whenever the juve playing away is as if playing at home.
Personally, I have become a fan of juve because as a child my cousin told me: "If you say forza juve, I'll buy you an ice-cream" :metal: ;D
Having tasted some ice-creams in Italia I must say I totally understand your choice :)
Can't go wrong with italian ice cream, indeed.
hello guys,
Good Morning Vietnam ... :2funny:
The Italian league was waiting for a response from the juve.
Very well there was.
Victory without suffering and great goals from Giovinco.
well, too, Fernando.
In general, good performance of juve.
Close game in the first half and the second half for a walk.
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 23:44
Can anyone tell me why did Mourinho once compared Oporto to Sicily?
Because of the wine...
Nice to have guests here.
Regarding Juventus, i've been a fan since little kid (had a shirt of Del Piero) but nowadays i don't follow them so much, i guess the reason for my suppport it's because of my heritage, my great-grandparents were Italian (my middle name is Battaglia) and of course because of Del Piero, Nedved, Trezeguet etc.. so it's gonna be a good eliminatory and hopefully Benfica will win.
Citação de: Dandy em 15 de Abril de 2014, 09:32
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 23:44
Can anyone tell me why did Mourinho once compared Oporto to Sicily?
Because of the wine...
Is that so? Thanks a lot for the answer.
Don't be mad at me but I prefer Madeira wine.
Ti Amo, Toro!
i hope you win the league sunday
what do you think about william carvalho ?
Dear italian friends. This is Benfica:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mBnqhSBOwMY/U00Zd-1MYtI/AAAAAAAAVUc/YL-OzIfGen8/s1600/Screen+Shot+2014-04-15+at+12.19.04.png)
It's a Yaya Touré type of player physically, he's more defensive oriented than him and contributes less on the offensive end.
The part of his game that i really like is the simplicity, plays with a lot of tranquility and a huge confidence, it's very unusual to see him losing the ball or doing a bad pass.
As a huge body frame and it seems that he covers a lot of space in the defensive midfield.
Citação de: kneissl em 15 de Abril de 2014, 14:06
It's a Yaya Touré type of player physically, he's more defensive oriented than him and contributes less on the offensive end.
The part of his game that i really like is the simplicity, plays with a lot of tranquility and a huge confidence, it's very unusual to see him losing the ball or doing a bad pass.
thank you , months ago i heard few rumors about juve but today Manchester united look will buy him for 35 ml
William is good, has a lot of potential, but he is overrated as fuck by Sporting's stupid fans, that bow every single tackle he makes... I'd say he's worth around 20Mil €
The hype is clearly huge, but i think he's going to live up to the expectations.
I don't think Juve as the money to buy him, the new chairman of SCP is lunatic.
Citação de: the mentalist em 15 de Abril de 2014, 13:51
what do you think about william carvalho ?
Not Juventus material, unless you don't want your team to be as strong as possible.
Great player for a medium size team, not enough for a top club.
Not underestimating him for playing in a rival, cause sporting has not been a serious rival in the last 40 years or so.
But Porto's Fernando would be great for you.
Citação de: pcssousa em 15 de Abril de 2014, 14:02
Dear italian friends. This is Benfica:
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-mBnqhSBOwMY/U00Zd-1MYtI/AAAAAAAAVUc/YL-OzIfGen8/s1600/Screen+Shot+2014-04-15+at+12.19.04.png)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3GF3VjUq-k
Nice to have guests here.
Needless to say I'm hoping for a win. But I am way too nervous for this.
Welcome to all Juventus fans, it's nice to have you here and make some conversation.
The first champioos league game that i saw was tha Dortmund - Juventus witch Dortmund won 3-1, so Juventus have something to say about my relation with footaball.
About our games, i think it will be tough for both clubs and i'd say it will be 50-50, i don't think think Juventus is that strong as many people are saying, i've been watching a lot of your matches and i'm not that impressed, your league is not what it use to be and the same for your team, we both came from CL where we didn't reach our goals.
Willian Cavalho is a good player, but i don't think it would be wise to give +20m for him right now, he does not have any international experience, like Sousa sayd you'd be better with Fernando from Heat of Night Football Clube.
Citação de: the mentalist em 15 de Abril de 2014, 13:43
i hope you win the league sunday
thanks man, the sooner we win the better
you guys are pretty close too, good luck
Citação de: pcssousa em 15 de Abril de 2014, 16:19
Citação de: the mentalist em 15 de Abril de 2014, 13:51
what do you think about william carvalho ?
Not Juventus material, unless you don't want your team to be as strong as possible.
Great player for a medium size team, not enough for a top club.
Not underestimating him for playing in a rival, cause sporting has not been a serious rival in the last 40 years or so.
But Porto's Fernando would be great for you.
I agree with this
it's also what I think about him
Citação de: T1n0_SLB em 15 de Abril de 2014, 17:03
Welcome to all Juventus fans, it's nice to have you here and make some conversation.
The first champioos league game that i saw was tha Dortmund - Juventus witch Dortmund won 3-1, so Juventus have something to say about my relation with footaball.
About our games, i think it will be tough for both clubs and i'd say it will be 50-50, i don't think think Juventus is that strong as many people are saying, i've been watching a lot of your matches and i'm not that impressed, your league is not what it use to be and the same for your team, we both came from CL where we didn't reach our goals.
Willian Cavalho is a good player, but i don't think it would be wise to give +20m for him right now, he does not have any international experience, like Sousa sayd you'd be better with Fernando from Heat of Night Football Clube.
if you watched last 2 months ok but that was maybe one of the worst moment of the last 3 years , but now we look come back . Serie a is like not years ago but still is tough league especially this year with roma who doing a great season.
Citação de: Red.Fever em 15 de Abril de 2014, 17:04
thanks man, the sooner we win the better
you guys are pretty close too, good luck
it will take more time , roma still not give up .
In the Italian league, it often happens that the teams that are last in the list give a hard time to the first.
This year it happened ... tough match against Catania and resolved by a single stunt, Tezez.
Even in genoa, if not marked Pirlo would come out of the "Ferraris" with only one point.
In your league, it often happens that the last one in the list can pass a bad quarter of an hour with the top teams?
Of course WC isn't Juve material...yet... but it's a bright prospect, and in 2,3 years he's going to develop in one of the best defensive mid in the world, this article exemplifies what i'm talking about.
A low profile athlete, humble and intelligent player, down to earth.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/william-carvalho-manchester-united-transfer-3213663
Fernando's more prepared right know to play for a world class team, but he doesn't have neither half of the body WC has or the ability with the ball, and he's also older than him.
Citação de: the mentalist em 15 de Abril de 2014, 17:38
if you watched last 2 months ok but that was maybe one of the worst moment of the last 3 years , but now we look come back . Serie a is like not years ago but still is tough league especially this year with roma who doing a great season.
Mentalist, as has often repeated antonio count, we had to manage a large number of players are not in good condition never happened in other years.
Moreover, the team is not very strong even in substitutes, and then of course pay the debt.
but despite this, the team has maintained the distance from the team of rome.
The next step, I think it is the same: to have the right substitutes in defense, midfield and attack.
Especially in the outside midfield.
Juventino what happened to Ogbonna? I remember him has one of the biggest prospects, half teams in Serie A behind him, and now i don't see him play regularly... i know Chiellini and Bonucci are world class, but Cáceres... also what do u think of Immobile, Marrone and Berardi i think they're still connected to Juve.
yeah, it happens here too some times
here, those teams against the big ones pretty much park the bus, barely attack and keep on wasting time
which some times works >:(
this year we lost points with a couple of those teams
but you guys are 8 points ahead of Roma, surely you won't let the league title escape ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCF4lL4HJ6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQWFleZYtPg
have fear :slb2:
Citação de: cipri_slb em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCF4lL4HJ6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQWFleZYtPg
have afraid :slb2:
have fear
be afraid
Citação de: kneissl em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:04
Juventino what happened to Ogbonna? I remember him has one of the biggest prospects, half teams in Serie A behind him, and now i don't see him play regularly... i know Chiellini and Bonucci are world class, but Cáceres... also what do u think of Immobile, Marrone and Berardi i think they're still connected to Juve.
Ogbonna, have suffered the insertion into the mindset of the Count.
But now, it is proving to be not only a good physical condition, but also a good agreement with the patterns of juve game.
Caceres, a player is quiet and always ready when you call him in battle.
Surely, if Barzagli had not been hurt, now he would be on the bench.
But I'm glad he replied: are there!
It 'was a mistake to give half of Immobile to the team of turin.
I do not know if it will be brought back to Juve.
Same situation for Marrone and Berardi.
Well if they return to Juve you'll have half of the Italian squad for the next years.
Imagine in your team Berardi alongside Immobile and maybe Tevez..
I heard Iturbe's making a huge season in Verona, unfortunately he belongs to Oporto so i guess they're going to make a lot of money with him (AS Roma want's him).
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 17:53
In the Italian league, it often happens that the teams that are last in the list give a hard time to the first.
This year it happened ... tough match against Catania and resolved by a single stunt, Tezez.
Even in genoa, if not marked Pirlo would come out of the "Ferraris" with only one point.
In your league, it often happens that the last one in the list can pass a bad quarter of an hour with the top teams?
We had two draw at home against Arouca( 13) and Belenenses(14).
The lst game we didn't win was against Gil Vicente(12) away, 1-1, at home we only beat them in extra time, 0-1 at 90th 2-1 at 90+3.
Citação de: cipri_slb em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCF4lL4HJ6Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCF4lL4HJ6Y)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQWFleZYtPg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQWFleZYtPg)
have fear :slb2:
ainda não tinha visto esse video da adidas, está porreiro
o outro já tinha visto, mas vi outra vez, está muito bom mesmo ;D
Citação de: cipri_slb em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCF4lL4HJ6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQWFleZYtPg
have fear :slb2:
Off-topic, como é possível haver benfiquistas a fazerem videos com esse palhacinho?
Citação de: T1n0_SLB em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:23
Citação de: cipri_slb em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCF4lL4HJ6Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCF4lL4HJ6Y)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQWFleZYtPg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQWFleZYtPg)
have fear :slb2:
Off-topic, como é possível haver benfiquistas a fazerem videos com esse palhacinho?
estás a falar de quem? :o
Citação de: Red.Fever em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:26
Citação de: T1n0_SLB em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:23
Citação de: cipri_slb em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCF4lL4HJ6Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCF4lL4HJ6Y)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQWFleZYtPg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQWFleZYtPg)
have fear :slb2:
Off-topic, como é possível haver benfiquistas a fazerem videos com esse palhacinho?
estás a falar de quem? :o
Tu sabes, no 2º vídeo é das 1ª coisas a aparecerem.
Citação de: cipri_slb em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCF4lL4HJ6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQWFleZYtPg
have fear :slb2:
after the match against Lyon ... first round of quarter to final
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xzHsRN6bfo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xzHsRN6bfo)
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:28
Citação de: cipri_slb em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCF4lL4HJ6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQWFleZYtPg
have fear :slb2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xzHsRN6bfo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xzHsRN6bfo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3GF3VjUq-k
Have you ever had somthing like this?
Citação de: T1n0_SLB em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:28
Citação de: Red.Fever em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:26
Citação de: T1n0_SLB em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:23
Citação de: cipri_slb em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCF4lL4HJ6Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCF4lL4HJ6Y)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQWFleZYtPg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQWFleZYtPg)
have fear :slb2:
Off-topic, como é possível haver benfiquistas a fazerem videos com esse palhacinho?
estás a falar de quem? :o
Tu sabes, no 2º vídeo é das 1ª coisas a aparecerem.
aaah, já estou a ver, o fdp do k...
Só para avisar que acabei de ganhar 2-0 ao Juve no PES com a camisola do Glorioso e com uma arbitragem extremamente tendenciosa que promoveu a expulsão de dois jogadores meus em lances de carrinho em que apenas tentei jogar à bola...Ah e nível Expert.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:28
Citação de: cipri_slb em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCF4lL4HJ6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQWFleZYtPg
have fear :slb2:
after the match against Lyon ... first round of quarter to final
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xzHsRN6bfo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xzHsRN6bfo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6IzZHLOZkY (Old Trafford)
http://youtu.be/nOlVof0LjUg?t=3m16s ( Parc des Princes 30.000 Benfica fans)
Citação de: T1n0_SLB l
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3GF3VjUq-k
juventus stadium, all stadium song:
(listen to it until the end)
url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiofC2yhnTc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiofC2yhnTc[/url]
Citação de: Holmesreis em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:33
Só para avisar que acabei de ganhar 2-0 ao Juve no PES com a camisola do Glorioso e com uma arbitragem extremamente tendenciosa que promoveu a expulsão de dois jogadores meus em lances de carrinho em que apenas tentei jogar à bola...Ah e nível Expert.
:clap1:
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:40
[quote author=T1n0_SLB l
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3GF3VjUq-k
Have you ever had somthing like this?
juventus stadium, all stadium song:
(listen to it until the end)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiofC2yhnTc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiofC2yhnTc)
I think you did not understand my vídeo, that's not our sitadium, it's a away game, a 30k stadium full of
benfiquistas
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:40
Citação de: T1n0_SLB l
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3GF3VjUq-k
juventus stadium, all stadium song:
(listen to it until the end)
url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiofC2yhnTc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiofC2yhnTc[/url]
It may not seem, but on that video we were playing away.
for T1nO_SLB:
I understand now ;D
I am looking for something similar on the tube and place it here (if I find something)
Citação de: Holmesreis em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:33
Só para avisar que acabei de ganhar 2-0 ao Juve no PES com a camisola do Glorioso e com uma arbitragem extremamente tendenciosa que promoveu a expulsão de dois jogadores meus em lances de carrinho em que apenas tentei jogar à bola...Ah e nível Expert.
ok, I'm very happy that you have won a PES :cry2:
I will settle our real victory ;D :winner:
:)
Citação de: cipri_slb em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:34
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:28
Citação de: cipri_slb em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCF4lL4HJ6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQWFleZYtPg
have fear :slb2:
after the match against Lyon ... first round of quarter to final
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xzHsRN6bfo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xzHsRN6bfo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6IzZHLOZkY (Old Trafford)
http://youtu.be/nOlVof0LjUg?t=3m16s ( Parc des Princes 30.000 Benfica fans)
That Parc des Princes is still a Uefa record for away fans.
Citação de: pcssousa em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:54
Citação de: cipri_slb em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:34
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:28
Citação de: cipri_slb em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCF4lL4HJ6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQWFleZYtPg
have fear :slb2:
after the match against Lyon ... first round of quarter to final
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xzHsRN6bfo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xzHsRN6bfo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6IzZHLOZkY (Old Trafford)
http://youtu.be/nOlVof0LjUg?t=3m16s ( Parc des Princes 30.000 Benfica fans)
That Parc des Princes is still a Uefa record for away fans.
Sporting in the next year will break the record. 40 000 in an away game.
:rir: :rir: :rir:
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:51
Citação de: Holmesreis em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:33
Só para avisar que acabei de ganhar 2-0 ao Juve no PES com a camisola do Glorioso e com uma arbitragem extremamente tendenciosa que promoveu a expulsão de dois jogadores meus em lances de carrinho em que apenas tentei jogar à bola...Ah e nível Expert.
ok, I'm very happy that you have won a PES :cry2:
I will settle our real victory ;D :winner:
:)
After all these years, we deserve to win a final again. 7 losses in a row.
I hope to play the final in your stadium and bring the trophy home. We deserve and we need this.
Citação de: pcssousa em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:56
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:51
Citação de: Holmesreis em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:33
Só para avisar que acabei de ganhar 2-0 ao Juve no PES com a camisola do Glorioso e com uma arbitragem extremamente tendenciosa que promoveu a expulsão de dois jogadores meus em lances de carrinho em que apenas tentei jogar à bola...Ah e nível Expert.
ok, I'm very happy that you have won a PES :cry2:
I will settle our real victory ;D :winner:
:)
After all these years, we deserve to win a final again. 7 losses in a row.
I hope to play the final in your stadium and bring the trophy home. We deserve and we need this.
yeah, and they already have 3 of these, they don't need another one
this one is for Benfica, keep your hands off Juve >:( ::bater::
Citação de: pcssousa em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:56
After all these years, we deserve to win a final again. 7 losses in a row.
I hope to play the final in your stadium and bring the trophy home. We deserve and we need this.
I hope so.
if you pass the turn (I hope not), I'll be a fan of Benfica.
Dude, we also need to win a final fucking, fuck!
since 1996 is that we do not win shit in Europe:
1997 final of Cl lost with B. Dortmund
1998 CL final with Real Madrid lost
2003 CL final lost against Milan
I experienced 4 defeats in 4 finals. In the first a penalty was stolen from us, in the second lost in the penalty shoot out ( 2nd series), in the third with a tricky goal, in the fourth with a goal conceded in the 92nd minute... Away too much.
Time to experience some happiness.
We all deserve some happiness and God knows is in debt.
Lucky we won both our finals against Spaniards and we'll win again against them this year.
Our first Uefa match ever was played against Sevilla, back in 1957, so I'm hoping to face them in May, 14. And beat them.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:47
for T1nO_SLB:
I understand now ;D
I am looking for something similar on the tube and place it here (if I find something)
I have not found anything.
but it is very unlikely that this will happen in Italy.
even if the juve fans are scattered throughout Italy
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 19:06
Citação de: pcssousa em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:56
After all these years, we deserve to win a final again. 7 losses in a row.
I hope to play the final in your stadium and bring the trophy home. We deserve and we need this.
I hope so.
if you pass the turn (I hope not), I'll be a fan of Benfica.
Dude, we also need to win a final fucking, fuck!
since 1996 is that we do not win shit in Europe:
1997 final of Cl lost with B. Dortmund
1998 CL final with Real Madrid lost
2003 CL final lost against Milan
Man, we won in 61 and 62... Since then we lost in 63 (European cup), 65 (European cup), 68 (European cup, after extra time), 83 (uefa cup), 88 (European cup shoot out), 1990 (European cup), 2013 (Europa league).
We even faced Inter in a final played in San Ciro and Man United in a final played in Wembley.
We need some luck and deserve some happiness. This is becoming ridiculous.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 19:06
Citação de: pcssousa em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:56
After all these years, we deserve to win a final again. 7 losses in a row.
I hope to play the final in your stadium and bring the trophy home. We deserve and we need this.
I hope so.
if you pass the turn (I hope not), I'll be a fan of Benfica.
Dude, we also need to win a final fucking, fuck!
since 1996 is that we do not win shit in Europe:
1997 final of Cl lost with B. Dortmund
1998 CL final with Real Madrid lost
2003 CL final lost against Milan
yeah, it sucks D:
both Benfica and Juve don't have much luck with them finals
hope that whoever passes from our match will get to win it
and hope it will be Benfica ^-^
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 19:06
Citação de: pcssousa em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:56
After all these years, we deserve to win a final again. 7 losses in a row.
I hope to play the final in your stadium and bring the trophy home. We deserve and we need this.
I hope so.
if you pass the turn (I hope not), I'll be a fan of Benfica.
Dude, we also need to win a final fucking, fuck!
since 1996 is that we do not win shit in Europe:
1997 final of Cl lost with B. Dortmund
1998 CL final with Real Madrid lost
2003 CL final lost against Milan
For a Juve fan, was it worse to lose to a club of the same country or the two in a row, in 1997 and 1998?
Citação de: Diogo20 em 15 de Abril de 2014, 19:17
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 19:06
Citação de: pcssousa em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:56
After all these years, we deserve to win a final again. 7 losses in a row.
I hope to play the final in your stadium and bring the trophy home. We deserve and we need this.
I hope so.
if you pass the turn (I hope not), I'll be a fan of Benfica.
Dude, we also need to win a final fucking, fuck!
since 1996 is that we do not win shit in Europe:
1997 final of Cl lost with B. Dortmund
1998 CL final with Real Madrid lost
2003 CL final lost against Milan
For a Juve fan, was it worse to lose to a club of the same country or the two in a row, in 1997 and 1998?
personally against Milan
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:47
for T1nO_SLB:
I understand now ;D
I am looking for something similar on the tube and place it here (if I find something)
You won't.
Ah, we have several games like that, i'm leaving now, later i'll post some videos of away games with stadiuns full fo our fans.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 19:18
Citação de: Diogo20 em 15 de Abril de 2014, 19:17
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 19:06
Citação de: pcssousa em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:56
After all these years, we deserve to win a final again. 7 losses in a row.
I hope to play the final in your stadium and bring the trophy home. We deserve and we need this.
I hope so.
if you pass the turn (I hope not), I'll be a fan of Benfica.
Dude, we also need to win a final fucking, fuck!
since 1996 is that we do not win shit in Europe:
1997 final of Cl lost with B. Dortmund
1998 CL final with Real Madrid lost
2003 CL final lost against Milan
For a Juve fan, was it worse to lose to a club of the same country or the two in a row, in 1997 and 1998?
personally against Milan
In 98 Mijatovic was off side.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 19:18
Citação de: Diogo20 em 15 de Abril de 2014, 19:17
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 19:06
Citação de: pcssousa em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:56
After all these years, we deserve to win a final again. 7 losses in a row.
I hope to play the final in your stadium and bring the trophy home. We deserve and we need this.
I hope so.
if you pass the turn (I hope not), I'll be a fan of Benfica.
Dude, we also need to win a final fucking, fuck!
since 1996 is that we do not win shit in Europe:
1997 final of Cl lost with B. Dortmund
1998 CL final with Real Madrid lost
2003 CL final lost against Milan
For a Juve fan, was it worse to lose to a club of the same country or the two in a row, in 1997 and 1998?
personally against Milan
I was expecting that answer. It would be the same if we had gone to the 2011 EL final and face Oporto. We could have lost and never forget that moment.
Citação de: pcssousa em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:54
Citação de: cipri_slb em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:34
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:28
Citação de: cipri_slb em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCF4lL4HJ6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQWFleZYtPg
have fear :slb2:
after the match against Lyon ... first round of quarter to final
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xzHsRN6bfo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xzHsRN6bfo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6IzZHLOZkY (Old Trafford)
http://youtu.be/nOlVof0LjUg?t=3m16s ( Parc des Princes 30.000 Benfica fans)
That Parc des Princes is still a Uefa record for away fans.
Are you sure? What about that game with Lille at Stade de France?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pmkLDizgy0=2m10s
Citação de: T1n0_SLB em 15 de Abril de 2014, 19:24
Citação de: pcssousa em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:54
Citação de: cipri_slb em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:34
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:28
Citação de: cipri_slb em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:11
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCF4lL4HJ6Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQWFleZYtPg
have fear :slb2:
after the match against Lyon ... first round of quarter to final
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xzHsRN6bfo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xzHsRN6bfo)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6IzZHLOZkY (Old Trafford)
http://youtu.be/nOlVof0LjUg?t=3m16s ( Parc des Princes 30.000 Benfica fans)
That Parc des Princes is still a Uefa record for away fans.
Are you sure? What about that game with Lille at Stade de France?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pmkLDizgy0=2m10s
You're right. The record was established against Lille.
Citação de: pcssousa em 15 de Abril de 2014, 19:14
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 19:06
Citação de: pcssousa em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:56
After all these years, we deserve to win a final again. 7 losses in a row.
I hope to play the final in your stadium and bring the trophy home. We deserve and we need this.
I hope so.
if you pass the turn (I hope not), I'll be a fan of Benfica.
Dude, we also need to win a final fucking, fuck!
since 1996 is that we do not win shit in Europe:
1997 final of Cl lost with B. Dortmund
1998 CL final with Real Madrid lost
2003 CL final lost against Milan
Man, we won in 61 and 62... Since then we lost in 63 (European cup), 65 (European cup), 68 (European cup, after extra time), 83 (uefa cup), 88 (European cup shoot out), 1990 (European cup), 2013 (Europa league).
We even faced Inter in a final played in San Ciro and Man United in a final played in Wembley.
We need some luck and deserve some happiness. This is becoming ridiculous.
Don't forget to mention the Intercontinentals.
Citação de: Diogo20 em 15 de Abril de 2014, 19:21
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 19:18
Citação de: Diogo20 em 15 de Abril de 2014, 19:17
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 19:06
Citação de: pcssousa em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:56
After all these years, we deserve to win a final again. 7 losses in a row.
I hope to play the final in your stadium and bring the trophy home. We deserve and we need this.
I hope so.
if you pass the turn (I hope not), I'll be a fan of Benfica.
Dude, we also need to win a final fucking, fuck!
since 1996 is that we do not win shit in Europe:
1997 final of Cl lost with B. Dortmund
1998 CL final with Real Madrid lost
2003 CL final lost against Milan
For a Juve fan, was it worse to lose to a club of the same country or the two in a row, in 1997 and 1998?
personally against Milan
I was expecting that answer. It would be the same if we had gone to the 2011 EL final and face Oporto. We could have lost and never forget that moment.
Personal opinion:
In one game only... we could have taken them.
Citação de: Dandy em 15 de Abril de 2014, 20:00
Citação de: pcssousa em 15 de Abril de 2014, 19:14
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 19:06
Citação de: pcssousa em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:56
After all these years, we deserve to win a final again. 7 losses in a row.
I hope to play the final in your stadium and bring the trophy home. We deserve and we need this.
I hope so.
if you pass the turn (I hope not), I'll be a fan of Benfica.
Dude, we also need to win a final fucking, fuck!
since 1996 is that we do not win shit in Europe:
1997 final of Cl lost with B. Dortmund
1998 CL final with Real Madrid lost
2003 CL final lost against Milan
Man, we won in 61 and 62... Since then we lost in 63 (European cup), 65 (European cup), 68 (European cup, after extra time), 83 (uefa cup), 88 (European cup shoot out), 1990 (European cup), 2013 (Europa league).
We even faced Inter in a final played in San Ciro and Man United in a final played in Wembley.
We need some luck and deserve some happiness. This is becoming ridiculous.
Don't forget to mention the Intercontinentals.
Don't give them much importance. A official trophy by then that become unofficial years later.
Citação de: Dandy em 15 de Abril de 2014, 20:03
Citação de: Diogo20 em 15 de Abril de 2014, 19:21
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 19:18
Citação de: Diogo20 em 15 de Abril de 2014, 19:17
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 19:06
Citação de: pcssousa em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:56
After all these years, we deserve to win a final again. 7 losses in a row.
I hope to play the final in your stadium and bring the trophy home. We deserve and we need this.
I hope so.
if you pass the turn (I hope not), I'll be a fan of Benfica.
Dude, we also need to win a final fucking, fuck!
since 1996 is that we do not win shit in Europe:
1997 final of Cl lost with B. Dortmund
1998 CL final with Real Madrid lost
2003 CL final lost against Milan
For a Juve fan, was it worse to lose to a club of the same country or the two in a row, in 1997 and 1998?
personally against Milan
I was expecting that answer. It would be the same if we had gone to the 2011 EL final and face Oporto. We could have lost and never forget that moment.
Personal opinion:
In one game only... we could have taken them.
Could and should. And don't forget they only won the final thank to an off side goal.
Stealing since 1908!
The majority of Portuguese immigrants are based on France.Switzerland & Luxembourg so it's normal when we play in France or near (Switzerland,Germany even UK) a lot of them are present...
We don't see that when we go to other countries like Greece, Turkey... even in the europa league semi-finals last season in Turkey, if we were 80 there it was a lot lol.
One of the best away games we had in terms of suppporting was actually in Italy, San Siro against Inter Milan...
(http://adeptos.no.sapo.pt/2006/4Abril/NoNameSanSiroSemMedo.jpg)
I dare to say that 90% of them are Ultras or associated to NN (non-ultra group), way way different than when we go to France ,etc were the majority is "normal" immigrant fans.
Citação de: kneissl em 15 de Abril de 2014, 20:39
The majority of Portuguese immigrants are based on France.Switzerland & Luxembourg so it's normal when we play in France or near (Switzerland,Germany even UK) a lot of them are present...
We don't see that when we go to other countries like Greece, Turkey... even in the europa league semi-finals last season in Turkey, if we were 80 there it was a lot lol.
One of the best away games we had in terms of suppporting was actually in Italy, San Siro against Inter Milan...
(http://adeptos.no.sapo.pt/2006/4Abril/NoNameSanSiroSemMedo.jpg)
I dare to say that 90% of them are Ultras or associated to NN (non-ultra group), way way different than when we go to France ,etc were the majority is "normal" immigrant fans.
We trying impress and let them afraid...
And you said this! traitor ;D
Inter 4 - Benfica 3:
Another match stolen from us.
Seems like yesterday: Toldo using Sokota for karate training.
JUVENTINO, if we win this, I will let you sleep in my bed with me.
But we can't touch each other. However, we can touch our own genitals while we say dirty words.
I have a kittie that sleeps near by. She takes some pills so she can't get pregnant. God IS SHE LOVELY.
There was a Eurodance hit back in the 90's that went more or less like this:
"Me and you! Lalalalala.."
I also like flavoured body oils. pcssousa also likes this. I have this monthly plan that I don't have to pay for international calls.
My dad bought this new air conditioning system last year for our country house. But my mom opened the windows so the panic settled. I remember my dad (which is a Braga fan) crying and yelling "Such an inglorious effort on inner environment control!"
What i like the most on your interventions is your ability to mix up different subjects with one thing in comon: senseless. Them all. Props.
Citação de: GTtdi_SLB em 15 de Abril de 2014, 23:47
What i like the most on your interventions is your ability to mix up different subjects with one thing in comom: senseless. Them all. Props.
Funny enough, the eurodance movement had strong roots in Italy. Italodisco.
Example:
Bobby Orlando - Another Knife In My Back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CraKFDilQI
Citação de: Jotenko em 15 de Abril de 2014, 23:50
Citação de: GTtdi_SLB em 15 de Abril de 2014, 23:47
What i like the most on your interventions is your ability to mix up different subjects with one thing in comom: senseless. Them all. Props.
Funny enough, the eurodance movement had strong roots in Italy. Italodisco.
Example:
Bobby Orlando - Another Knife In My Back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CraKFDilQI
I used to dance to this naked while watching the Sesame Street muted.
Only to tell you all Jotenko is a great kisser. Terrific, in fact...
Jotenko, remember that time when we met those 3 Swedish girls... Oh well, nevermind...
Citação de: Jotenko em 15 de Abril de 2014, 23:42
JUVENTINO, if we win this, I will let you sleep in my bed with me.
But we can't touch each other. However, we can touch our own genitals while we say dirty words.
I have a kittie that sleeps near by. She takes some pills so she can't get pregnant. God IS SHE LOVELY.
There was a Eurodance hit back in the 90's that went more or less like this:
"Me and you! Lalalalala.."
I also like flavoured body oils. pcssousa also likes this. I have this monthly plan that I don't have to pay for international calls.
My dad bought this new air conditioning system last year for our country house. But my mom opened the windows so the panic settled. I remember my dad (which is a Braga fan) crying and yelling "Such an inglorious effort on inner environment control!"
Cut the crap... the guy already said it:
He likes pussy.
Besides... your cat is obese.
Citação de: Jotenko em 15 de Abril de 2014, 23:50
Citação de: GTtdi_SLB em 15 de Abril de 2014, 23:47
What i like the most on your interventions is your ability to mix up different subjects with one thing in comom: senseless. Them all. Props.
Funny enough, the eurodance movement had strong roots in Italy. Italodisco.
Example:
Bobby Orlando - Another Knife In My Back
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CraKFDilQI
Foda-se que até me babei todo pra cima do portátil!
Citação de: Jotenko em 15 de Abril de 2014, 23:42
JUVENTINO, if we win this, I will let you sleep in my bed with me.
Don't listen to him, he only makes promises he cant keep.. >:(
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 00:28
Citação de: Jotenko em 15 de Abril de 2014, 23:42
JUVENTINO, if we win this, I will let you sleep in my bed with me.
Don't listen to him, he only makes promises he cant keep.. >:(
My girlfriend here is asking for photos of your hairy greek ass. PM me. Lets make an European Genitals League.
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Your girlfriend? Is that what you call your prison cell mate? :bow2:
Citação de: Jotenko em 15 de Abril de 2014, 23:42
JUVENTINO, if we win this, I will let you sleep in my bed with me.
But we can't touch each other. However, we can touch our own genitals while we say dirty words.
I have a kittie that sleeps near by. She takes some pills so she can't get pregnant. God IS SHE LOVELY.
There was a Eurodance hit back in the 90's that went more or less like this:
"Me and you! Lalalalala.."
I also like flavoured body oils. pcssousa also likes this. I have this monthly plan that I don't have to pay for international calls.
My dad bought this new air conditioning system last year for our country house. But my mom opened the windows so the panic settled. I remember my dad (which is a Braga fan) crying and yelling "Such an inglorious effort on inner environment control!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zvc_igb2-Y
Citação de: Red.Fever em 16 de Abril de 2014, 00:59
Citação de: Jotenko em 15 de Abril de 2014, 23:42
JUVENTINO, if we win this, I will let you sleep in my bed with me.
But we can't touch each other. However, we can touch our own genitals while we say dirty words.
I have a kittie that sleeps near by. She takes some pills so she can't get pregnant. God IS SHE LOVELY.
There was a Eurodance hit back in the 90's that went more or less like this:
"Me and you! Lalalalala.."
I also like flavoured body oils. pcssousa also likes this. I have this monthly plan that I don't have to pay for international calls.
My dad bought this new air conditioning system last year for our country house. But my mom opened the windows so the panic settled. I remember my dad (which is a Braga fan) crying and yelling "Such an inglorious effort on inner environment control!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zvc_igb2-Y
My girlfriend is here next to me looking at the laptop. She just read the first line of your quote and said "Oh I don't want to read more."
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 00:58
Your girlfriend? Is that what you call your prison cell mate? :bow2:
Send me pics of your Troikan ass and cut the crap.
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 00:58
Your girlfriend? Is that what you call your prison cell mate? :bow2:
That was somewhat offensive. Please let us try to keep some dignity in this conversation.
Citação de: Jotenko em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:00
Citação de: Red.Fever em 16 de Abril de 2014, 00:59
Citação de: Jotenko em 15 de Abril de 2014, 23:42
JUVENTINO, if we win this, I will let you sleep in my bed with me.
But we can't touch each other. However, we can touch our own genitals while we say dirty words.
I have a kittie that sleeps near by. She takes some pills so she can't get pregnant. God IS SHE LOVELY.
There was a Eurodance hit back in the 90's that went more or less like this:
"Me and you! Lalalalala.."
I also like flavoured body oils. pcssousa also likes this. I have this monthly plan that I don't have to pay for international calls.
My dad bought this new air conditioning system last year for our country house. But my mom opened the windows so the panic settled. I remember my dad (which is a Braga fan) crying and yelling "Such an inglorious effort on inner environment control!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zvc_igb2-Y
My girlfriend is here next to me looking at the laptop. She just read the first line of your quote and said "Oh I don't want to read more."
My girlfriend now read the entire thing and asked me what was the objective of the post.
Citação de: Jotenko em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:00
Citação de: Red.Fever em 16 de Abril de 2014, 00:59
Citação de: Jotenko em 15 de Abril de 2014, 23:42
JUVENTINO, if we win this, I will let you sleep in my bed with me.
But we can't touch each other. However, we can touch our own genitals while we say dirty words.
I have a kittie that sleeps near by. She takes some pills so she can't get pregnant. God IS SHE LOVELY.
There was a Eurodance hit back in the 90's that went more or less like this:
"Me and you! Lalalalala.."
I also like flavoured body oils. pcssousa also likes this. I have this monthly plan that I don't have to pay for international calls.
My dad bought this new air conditioning system last year for our country house. But my mom opened the windows so the panic settled. I remember my dad (which is a Braga fan) crying and yelling "Such an inglorious effort on inner environment control!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zvc_igb2-Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zvc_igb2-Y)
My girlfriend is here next to me looking at the laptop. She just read the first line of your quote and said "Oh I don't want to read more."
when you say your girlfriend, you mean your lovely kittie, right? :whistle2:
Just one Greek asshole? I can do better, here is 10,000 Greek assholes for you and your girl:
(http://www.paobc.gr/Image.ashx?fid=5134&w=800&h=800&q=80)
Citação de: Red.Fever em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:05
Citação de: Jotenko em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:00
Citação de: Red.Fever em 16 de Abril de 2014, 00:59
Citação de: Jotenko em 15 de Abril de 2014, 23:42
JUVENTINO, if we win this, I will let you sleep in my bed with me.
But we can't touch each other. However, we can touch our own genitals while we say dirty words.
I have a kittie that sleeps near by. She takes some pills so she can't get pregnant. God IS SHE LOVELY.
There was a Eurodance hit back in the 90's that went more or less like this:
"Me and you! Lalalalala.."
I also like flavoured body oils. pcssousa also likes this. I have this monthly plan that I don't have to pay for international calls.
My dad bought this new air conditioning system last year for our country house. But my mom opened the windows so the panic settled. I remember my dad (which is a Braga fan) crying and yelling "Such an inglorious effort on inner environment control!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zvc_igb2-Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zvc_igb2-Y)
My girlfriend is here next to me looking at the laptop. She just read the first line of your quote and said "Oh I don't want to read more."
when you say your girlfriend, you mean your lovely kittie, right? :whistle2:
Calm down, his girlfriend is also a user here.
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:06
Just one Greek asshole? I can do better, here is 10,000 Greek assholes for you and your girl:
(http://www.paobc.gr/Image.ashx?fid=5134&w=800&h=800&q=80)
Not impressed...
Faliro, tell me something, are you for Juve or for Benfica?
Citação de: pcssousa em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:06
Citação de: Red.Fever em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:05
Citação de: Jotenko em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:00
Citação de: Red.Fever em 16 de Abril de 2014, 00:59
Citação de: Jotenko em 15 de Abril de 2014, 23:42
JUVENTINO, if we win this, I will let you sleep in my bed with me.
But we can't touch each other. However, we can touch our own genitals while we say dirty words.
I have a kittie that sleeps near by. She takes some pills so she can't get pregnant. God IS SHE LOVELY.
There was a Eurodance hit back in the 90's that went more or less like this:
"Me and you! Lalalalala.."
I also like flavoured body oils. pcssousa also likes this. I have this monthly plan that I don't have to pay for international calls.
My dad bought this new air conditioning system last year for our country house. But my mom opened the windows so the panic settled. I remember my dad (which is a Braga fan) crying and yelling "Such an inglorious effort on inner environment control!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zvc_igb2-Y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zvc_igb2-Y)
My girlfriend is here next to me looking at the laptop. She just read the first line of your quote and said "Oh I don't want to read more."
when you say your girlfriend, you mean your lovely kittie, right? :whistle2:
Calm down, his girlfriend is also a user here.
I've seen him using her account
just messing around with him, I'm sure he knows that lawl
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0tIObNyoKFw/UE3TnuyAWDI/AAAAAAAAARs/1Rarp1IfZyk/s1600/Cute+Cat+With+Laptop.jpg)
Too late for apologies.
I'm crying now because I'm hearing that sad Bach play on the TV.
OH GOD WHY.
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:08
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0tIObNyoKFw/UE3TnuyAWDI/AAAAAAAAARs/1Rarp1IfZyk/s1600/Cute+Cat+With+Laptop.jpg)
Is that your cat?
Citação de: pcssousa em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:08
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:06
Just one Greek asshole? I can do better, here is 10,000 Greek assholes for you and your girl:
(http://www.paobc.gr/Image.ashx?fid=5134&w=800&h=800&q=80)
Not impressed...
Faliro, tell me something, are you for Juve or for Benfica?
Why you were hoping for a real Greek asshole?
Of course Benfica to win the 2nd leg, I despise Italian clubs. :bandeiraslb2:
Citação de: Jotenko em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:09
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:08
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-0tIObNyoKFw/UE3TnuyAWDI/AAAAAAAAARs/1Rarp1IfZyk/s1600/Cute+Cat+With+Laptop.jpg)
Is that your cat?
no, my cat prefers to use a mouse..
(http://i.imgur.com/dF3ocCn.jpg?1)
My kittie.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 19:06
Citação de: pcssousa em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:56
After all these years, we deserve to win a final again. 7 losses in a row.
I hope to play the final in your stadium and bring the trophy home. We deserve and we need this.
I hope so.
if you pass the turn (I hope not), I'll be a fan of Benfica.
Dude, we also need to win a final fucking, fuck!
since 1996 is that we do not win shit in Europe:
1997 final of Cl lost with B. Dortmund
1998 CL final with Real Madrid lost
2003 CL final lost against Milan
Citação de: pcssousa em 15 de Abril de 2014, 19:08
I experienced 4 defeats in 4 finals. In the first a penalty was stolen from us, in the second lost in the penalty shoot out ( 2nd series), in the third with a tricky goal, in the fourth with a goal conceded in the 92nd minute... Away too much.
Time to experience some happiness.
We all deserve some happiness and God knows is in debt.
Lucky we won both our finals against Spaniards and we'll win again against them this year.
Our first Uefa match ever was played against Sevilla, back in 1957, so I'm hoping to face them in May, 14. And beat them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qp_AIHgAWo
Citação de: Jotenko em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:14
(http://i.imgur.com/dF3ocCn.jpg?1)
My kittie.
He looks pissed off about something?
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:19
Citação de: Jotenko em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:14
(http://i.imgur.com/dF3ocCn.jpg?1)
My kittie.
He looks pissed off about something?
She. And she's always pissed about something.
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:10
Citação de: pcssousa em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:08
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:06
Just one Greek asshole? I can do better, here is 10,000 Greek assholes for you and your girl:
(http://www.paobc.gr/Image.ashx?fid=5134&w=800&h=800&q=80)
Not impressed...
Faliro, tell me something, are you for Juve or for Benfica?
Why you were hoping for a real Greek asshole?
Of course Benfica to win the 2nd leg, I despise Italian clubs. :bandeiraslb2:
To be honest, never seen a Greek male asshole... Not interested, though. That's Jotenko's field. He's a real expert on gay porn.
Glad you want Benfica to win. Hope we can get the cup this year.
Citação de: Shoky em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:15
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 15 de Abril de 2014, 19:06
Citação de: pcssousa em 15 de Abril de 2014, 18:56
After all these years, we deserve to win a final again. 7 losses in a row.
I hope to play the final in your stadium and bring the trophy home. We deserve and we need this.
I hope so.
if you pass the turn (I hope not), I'll be a fan of Benfica.
Dude, we also need to win a final fucking, fuck!
since 1996 is that we do not win shit in Europe:
1997 final of Cl lost with B. Dortmund
1998 CL final with Real Madrid lost
2003 CL final lost against Milan
Citação de: pcssousa em 15 de Abril de 2014, 19:08
I experienced 4 defeats in 4 finals. In the first a penalty was stolen from us, in the second lost in the penalty shoot out ( 2nd series), in the third with a tricky goal, in the fourth with a goal conceded in the 92nd minute... Away too much.
Time to experience some happiness.
We all deserve some happiness and God knows is in debt.
Lucky we won both our finals against Spaniards and we'll win again against them this year.
Our first Uefa match ever was played against Sevilla, back in 1957, so I'm hoping to face them in May, 14. And beat them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qp_AIHgAWo
Choram de barriga cheia... Coitados, não ganham na Europa desde 96...
Dava um colhão para ter a taça das taças e as 3 taças uefa deles e ainda para ver o Benfica Campeão da Europa como eles viram o clube deles.
7 finais seguidas, fdx... E eu já enfardei com 4. Pó crl...
Citação de: Dandy em 16 de Abril de 2014, 00:17
Citação de: Jotenko em 15 de Abril de 2014, 23:42
JUVENTINO, if we win this, I will let you sleep in my bed with me.
But we can't touch each other. However, we can touch our own genitals while we say dirty words.
I have a kittie that sleeps near by. She takes some pills so she can't get pregnant. God IS SHE LOVELY.
There was a Eurodance hit back in the 90's that went more or less like this:
"Me and you! Lalalalala.."
I also like flavoured body oils. pcssousa also likes this. I have this monthly plan that I don't have to pay for international calls.
My dad bought this new air conditioning system last year for our country house. But my mom opened the windows so the panic settled. I remember my dad (which is a Braga fan) crying and yelling "Such an inglorious effort on inner environment control!"
Cut the crap... the guy already said it:
He likes pussy.
Besides... your cat is obese.
(http://i.imgur.com/2kXFauJ.jpg)
NOT obese.
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:10
Citação de: pcssousa em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:08
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:06
Just one Greek asshole? I can do better, here is 10,000 Greek assholes for you and your girl:
(http://www.paobc.gr/Image.ashx?fid=5134&w=800&h=800&q=80)
Not impressed...
Faliro, tell me something, are you for Juve or for Benfica?
Why you were hoping for a real Greek asshole?
Of course Benfica to win the 2nd leg, I despise Italian clubs. :bandeiraslb2:
why?
Jotenko for:
man,
my wife is a veterinary, Therefore ... cats and dogs are routine. ;D
About this: if you need a veterinary visit, we can arrange for an appointment.
You give us guests in Portugal and my wife will visit the cat free O0
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:19
Citação de: Jotenko em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:14
(http://i.imgur.com/dF3ocCn.jpg?1)
My kittie.
He looks pissed off about something?
his face is equal to benitez :2funny:
But it also reminds me of Mourinho :2funny:
Jotenko, your Kittie is a Porto fans? ;D
...
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Abril de 2014, 10:06
Don't insult the poor cat.
need to know if benitez approves.
Anyway, my cat does not accept advice from Benitez on cats Portuguese.
It said: "Benitez has been scratched by cats Portuguese, why should I take advice from him"?
my cat is called Antonio
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 10:16
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Abril de 2014, 10:06
Don't insult the poor cat.
need to know if benitez approves.
Anyway, my cat does not accept advice from Benitez on cats Portuguese.
It said: "Benitez has been scratched by cats Portuguese, why should I take advice from him"?
my cat is called Antonio
Did you happen to name him after Conte?
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Abril de 2014, 10:24
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 10:16
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Abril de 2014, 10:06
Don't insult the poor cat.
need to know if benitez approves.
Anyway, my cat does not accept advice from Benitez on cats Portuguese.
It said: "Benitez has been scratched by cats Portuguese, why should I take advice from him"?
my cat is called Antonio
Did you happen to name him after Conte?
The cats do not live many years :cry2:, so I hope it take this name for his entire life :metal:
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 10:31
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Abril de 2014, 10:24
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 10:16
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Abril de 2014, 10:06
Don't insult the poor cat.
need to know if benitez approves.
Anyway, my cat does not accept advice from Benitez on cats Portuguese.
It said: "Benitez has been scratched by cats Portuguese, why should I take advice from him"?
my cat is called Antonio
Did you happen to name him after Conte?
The cats do not live many years :cry2:, so I hope it take this name for his entire life :metal:
Yea, shame. I wish cats were immortal.
My dog, however, his name is Pavel
but for my wife (who does not like football) is called Astor (as Astor Piazzolla ... the great composer of tango music).
so, poor thing, my dog has a double identity and is very confused. :o :estrelas:
I think that should be seen by a psychiatric analyst :huh:
Nedved was one of my favorite players back then. Loved that Czech Republic team with Nedved, Poborsky and Baros :)
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Abril de 2014, 10:39
Nedved was one of my favorite players back then. Loved that Czech Republic team with Nedved, Poborsky and Baros :)
sure
but do not forget the girls of the Czech Republic, they too deserve a nice WOW :metal:
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 10:47
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Abril de 2014, 10:39
Nedved was one of my favorite players back then. Loved that Czech Republic team with Nedved, Poborsky and Baros :)
sure
but do not forget the girls of the Czech Republic, they too deserve a nice WOW :metal:
Eastern Europe has some decent looking women, indeed.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 10:16
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Abril de 2014, 10:06
Don't insult the poor cat.
need to know if benitez approves.
Anyway, my cat does not accept advice from Benitez on cats Portuguese.
It said: "Benitez has been scratched by cats Portuguese, why should I take advice from him"?
my cat is called Antonio
:2funny:
Nice one...
PS: "on portuguese cats" ... we keep making the same mistake here.
Citação de: Jotenko em 16 de Abril de 2014, 11:05
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 10:16
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Abril de 2014, 10:06
Don't insult the poor cat.
need to know if benitez approves.
Anyway, my cat does not accept advice from Benitez on cats Portuguese.
It said: "Benitez has been scratched by cats Portuguese, why should I take advice from him"?
my cat is called Antonio
:2funny:
Nice one...
PS: "on portuguese cats" ... we keep making the same mistake here.
what error?
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 11:13
Citação de: Jotenko em 16 de Abril de 2014, 11:05
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 10:16
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Abril de 2014, 10:06
Don't insult the poor cat.
need to know if benitez approves.
Anyway, my cat does not accept advice from Benitez on cats Portuguese.
It said: "Benitez has been scratched by cats Portuguese, why should I take advice from him"?
my cat is called Antonio
:2funny:
Nice one...
PS: "on portuguese cats" ... we keep making the same mistake here.
what error?
Nevermind, buddy.
I'm nervous for tonight match... Are you and Faliro gonna see it?
Citação de: Jotenko em 16 de Abril de 2014, 11:16
Nevermind, buddy.
I'm nervous for tonight match... Are you and Faliro gonna see it?
I think that should be transmitted on Fox Sports ... if the kids allow me, willingly I see the game :)
I have to study my opponents :knuppel2:
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 11:22
Citação de: Jotenko em 16 de Abril de 2014, 11:16
Nevermind, buddy.
I'm nervous for tonight match... Are you and Faliro gonna see it?
I think that should be transmitted on Fox Sports ... if the kids allow me, willingly I see the game :)
I have to study my opponents :knuppel2:
Please share photos of your family with us!
Citação de: Jotenko em 16 de Abril de 2014, 11:23
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 11:22
Citação de: Jotenko em 16 de Abril de 2014, 11:16
Nevermind, buddy.
I'm nervous for tonight match... Are you and Faliro gonna see it?
I think that should be transmitted on Fox Sports ... if the kids allow me, willingly I see the game :)
I have to study my opponents :knuppel2:
Please share photos of your family with us!
gladly if I knew how to share photos on forums in general
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 11:40
Citação de: Jotenko em 16 de Abril de 2014, 11:23
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 11:22
Citação de: Jotenko em 16 de Abril de 2014, 11:16
Nevermind, buddy.
I'm nervous for tonight match... Are you and Faliro gonna see it?
I think that should be transmitted on Fox Sports ... if the kids allow me, willingly I see the game :)
I have to study my opponents :knuppel2:
Please share photos of your family with us!
gladly if I knew how to share photos on forums in general
1. Upload the photo online;
2. Write this on your post:
(http://site.com/image.jpg)
Just replace the address of the site.
Citação de: Jotenko em 16 de Abril de 2014, 11:47
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 11:40
Citação de: Jotenko em 16 de Abril de 2014, 11:23
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 11:22
Citação de: Jotenko em 16 de Abril de 2014, 11:16
Nevermind, buddy.
I'm nervous for tonight match... Are you and Faliro gonna see it?
I think that should be transmitted on Fox Sports ... if the kids allow me, willingly I see the game :)
I have to study my opponents :knuppel2:
Please share photos of your family with us!
gladly if I knew how to share photos on forums in general
1. Upload the photo online;
2. Write this on your post:
(http://site.com/image.jpg)
Just replace the address of the site.
step that I did not want to do :)
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 09:50
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:10
Citação de: pcssousa em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:08
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:06
Just one Greek asshole? I can do better, here is 10,000 Greek assholes for you and your girl:
(http://www.paobc.gr/Image.ashx?fid=5134&w=800&h=800&q=80)
Not impressed...
Faliro, tell me something, are you for Juve or for Benfica?
Why you were hoping for a real Greek asshole?
Of course Benfica to win the 2nd leg, I despise Italian clubs. :bandeiraslb2:
why?
I have been watching football since a boy. I have gone to games from England to Spain to Brazil. I have watched every game I can for many years. Italian clubs and the Italian National side are extremely dirty. The players scratch with their nails, dive, foul terribly and generally cheat as much as they can. It is extremely ugly to watch a team playing firstly to manipulate the referee and then to play their actual opponents.
Nothing against Italy, very pretty country. :smokin:
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 12:01
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 09:50
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:10
Citação de: pcssousa em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:08
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:06
Just one Greek asshole? I can do better, here is 10,000 Greek assholes for you and your girl:
(http://www.paobc.gr/Image.ashx?fid=5134&w=800&h=800&q=80)
Not impressed...
Faliro, tell me something, are you for Juve or for Benfica?
Why you were hoping for a real Greek asshole?
Of course Benfica to win the 2nd leg, I despise Italian clubs. :bandeiraslb2:
why?
I have been watching football since a boy. I have gone to games from England to Spain to Brazil. I have watched every game I can for many years. Italian clubs and the Italian National side are extremely dirty. The players scratch with their nails, dive, foul terribly and generally cheat as much as they can. It is extremely ugly to watch a team playing firstly to manipulate the referee and then to play their actual opponents.
Nothing against Italy, very pretty country. :smokin:
Look. We alread are a PIG.
Only a spaniard missing and Troika kicks in.
Citação de: Jotenko em 16 de Abril de 2014, 12:28
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 12:01
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 09:50
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:10
Citação de: pcssousa em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:08
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 01:06
Just one Greek asshole? I can do better, here is 10,000 Greek assholes for you and your girl:
(http://www.paobc.gr/Image.ashx?fid=5134&w=800&h=800&q=80)
Not impressed...
Faliro, tell me something, are you for Juve or for Benfica?
Why you were hoping for a real Greek asshole?
Of course Benfica to win the 2nd leg, I despise Italian clubs. :bandeiraslb2:
why?
I have been watching football since a boy. I have gone to games from England to Spain to Brazil. I have watched every game I can for many years. Italian clubs and the Italian National side are extremely dirty. The players scratch with their nails, dive, foul terribly and generally cheat as much as they can. It is extremely ugly to watch a team playing firstly to manipulate the referee and then to play their actual opponents.
Nothing against Italy, very pretty country. :smokin:
Look. We alread are a PIG.
Only a spaniard missing and Troika kicks in.
Rabbit Steps, is that you?
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 12:01
I have been watching football since a boy. I have gone to games from England to Spain to Brazil. I have watched every game I can for many years. Italian clubs and the Italian National side are extremely dirty. The players scratch with their nails, dive, foul terribly and generally cheat as much as they can. It is extremely ugly to watch a team playing firstly to manipulate the referee and then to play their actual opponents.
Nothing against Italy, very pretty country. :smokin:
listen,
if I had even half of your convictions, I would stop watching football and cheer juve since a long time.
But, it doesn't.
Unfortunately this cliche goes abroad.
I think it's the fault of the national newspapers (sports and otherwise) that killing teams not nice to her, thus killing the entire Italian football movement.
An arbitration decision in favor of juventus, for example, make it pass as a "Combine" between referees and juventus and talk about it for weeks.
On the contrary, when an episode favorable arbitration touches the Rome team, it will make it pass as something that can happen in a game and not talk about it.
Then, if you do not like Italian football because the games are boring, this is another question and I agree with you
Well, for me this tie against Juventus was the best we could get given the circumstances: play Juventus in only one match in a neutral-home match for Juve would be worst. So, it's better to have a home match against them too and try to win.
One of my objectives in life is to see Benfica winning in Europe again. Preferably a Champions League, but a Europa League final will do it too. I've been to four finals and is far too sad to loose all over again. For us to get there, we have to be strong and beat Juve first. Our destiny is always face the best of the best, not medium-size teams that have one good season in fifty.
I've been to Delle Alpi back in 1993 and I remeber too well our 3-0 defeat. So I'm hoping to go again and see something completely different now. Perhaps we are not considered favourites on this one but franky we have enough football to go through.
Sorry for not having some cat photos to share :smokin:
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 14:33
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 12:01
I have been watching football since a boy. I have gone to games from England to Spain to Brazil. I have watched every game I can for many years. Italian clubs and the Italian National side are extremely dirty. The players scratch with their nails, dive, foul terribly and generally cheat as much as they can. It is extremely ugly to watch a team playing firstly to manipulate the referee and then to play their actual opponents.
Nothing against Italy, very pretty country. :smokin:
listen,
if I had even half of your convictions, I would stop watching football and cheer juve since a long time.
But, it doesn't.
Unfortunately this cliche goes abroad.
I think it's the fault of the national newspapers (sports and otherwise) that killing teams not nice to her, thus killing the entire Italian football movement.
An arbitration decision in favor of juventus, for example, make it pass as a "Combine" between referees and juventus and talk about it for weeks.
On the contrary, when an episode favorable arbitration touches the Rome team, it will make it pass as something that can happen in a game and not talk about it.
Then, if you do not like Italian football because the games are boring, this is another question and I agree with you
(http://replygif.net/i/135.gif)
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 14:33
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 12:01
I have been watching football since a boy. I have gone to games from England to Spain to Brazil. I have watched every game I can for many years. Italian clubs and the Italian National side are extremely dirty. The players scratch with their nails, dive, foul terribly and generally cheat as much as they can. It is extremely ugly to watch a team playing firstly to manipulate the referee and then to play their actual opponents.
Nothing against Italy, very pretty country. :smokin:
listen,
if I had even half of your convictions, I would stop watching football and cheer juve since a long time.
But, it doesn't.
Unfortunately this cliche goes abroad.
I think it's the fault of the national newspapers (sports and otherwise) that killing teams not nice to her, thus killing the entire Italian football movement.
An arbitration decision in favor of juventus, for example, make it pass as a "Combine" between referees and juventus and talk about it for weeks.
On the contrary, when an episode favorable arbitration touches the Rome team, it will make it pass as something that can happen in a game and not talk about it.
Then, if you do not like Italian football because the games are boring, this is another question and I agree with you
Actually the rep of Italian football has been going down for years because of the way the players play the game. Most teams are extremely cynical - fouling, playing to the ref and the Italian national team seems to cheat on average every other minute when they play. The cliche or stereo type was actually positive to Italian football - strong defenses and style.. and what has happened is the more people actually watched Italian football the more they were put off. I am not talking about match fixing, which is clearly another problem in Italy - just the aggressiveness of the players and acting on the pitch.
We used to get Serie A free on TV here in the UK (channel 4), but the viewing figures declined every year it lasted.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 14:33
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 12:01
I have been watching football since a boy. I have gone to games from England to Spain to Brazil. I have watched every game I can for many years. Italian clubs and the Italian National side are extremely dirty. The players scratch with their nails, dive, foul terribly and generally cheat as much as they can. It is extremely ugly to watch a team playing firstly to manipulate the referee and then to play their actual opponents.
Nothing against Italy, very pretty country. :smokin:
listen,
if I had even half of your convictions, I would stop watching football and cheer juve since a long time.
But, it doesn't.
Unfortunately this cliche goes abroad.
I think it's the fault of the national newspapers (sports and otherwise) that killing teams not nice to her, thus killing the entire Italian football movement.
An arbitration decision in favor of juventus, for example, make it pass as a "Combine" between referees and juventus and talk about it for weeks.
On the contrary, when an episode favorable arbitration touches the Rome team, it will make it pass as something that can happen in a game and not talk about it.
Then, if you do not like Italian football because the games are boring, this is another question and I agree with you
Listen, many people outside Italy doesn't like the type of football practiced there since the invention of catenaccio.
Your national team has won many titles, your clubs won many international competitions, but I just doesn't give me any pleasure watching them play. And this doesn't mean your not good, and I have some friends who live Italian football, cheer for your national team and support Milan, Roma or Fiorentina.
Serie A was pretty good back in the 90s/early 00s. Nowadays it's pretty average.
Citação de: Jotenko em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:02
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 14:33
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 12:01
I have been watching football since a boy. I have gone to games from England to Spain to Brazil. I have watched every game I can for many years. Italian clubs and the Italian National side are extremely dirty. The players scratch with their nails, dive, foul terribly and generally cheat as much as they can. It is extremely ugly to watch a team playing firstly to manipulate the referee and then to play their actual opponents.
Nothing against Italy, very pretty country. :smokin:
listen,
if I had even half of your convictions, I would stop watching football and cheer juve since a long time.
But, it doesn't.
Unfortunately this cliche goes abroad.
I think it's the fault of the national newspapers (sports and otherwise) that killing teams not nice to her, thus killing the entire Italian football movement.
An arbitration decision in favor of juventus, for example, make it pass as a "Combine" between referees and juventus and talk about it for weeks.
On the contrary, when an episode favorable arbitration touches the Rome team, it will make it pass as something that can happen in a game and not talk about it.
Then, if you do not like Italian football because the games are boring, this is another question and I agree with you
(http://replygif.net/i/135.gif)
the program is boring? ;D
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:13
Serie A was pretty good back in the 90s/early 00s. Nowadays it's pretty average.
Never appreciated the cynics of Italian teams.
My second oldest memory of football is from a match played in Italy, back in 83. Benfica defeated Roma 1-2 in Italy for the UEFA cup. They were pretty good back then and became national champion later that year. I was 5 years old.
Only faced an Italian team 3 years later, lost 1-0 to Sampdoria in Genova and won 2-0 at home.
I think it's very hard, almost impossible, to dislike Italy and the Italians in general. They're pretty similar with us. The same applies to the greeks and spaniards.
As for italian football, i used to be a big fan back in the 90's. The Serie A was the best league by far. Those were the days. In the last couple of years, the league has downgraded a lot. Maybe in the future, we can see italian clubs back at the top.
Citação de: pcssousa em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:24
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:13
Serie A was pretty good back in the 90s/early 00s. Nowadays it's pretty average.
Never appreciated the cynics of Italian teams.
My second oldest memory of football is from a match played in Italy, back in 83. Benfica defeated Roma 1-2 in Italy for the UEFA cup. They were pretty good back then and became national champion later that year. I was 5 years old.
Only faced an Italian team 3 years later, lost 1-0 to Sampdoria in Genova and won 2-0 at home.
Well, I was a kid back then. I mostly liked it for all the big name players.
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:13
Serie A was pretty good back in the 90s/early 00s. Nowadays it's pretty average.
you asked yourself why?
Until 2006, Italy was considered one of the top football ... and in 2006 we have won the championship of the world ... we stole something? We have shown pride or wrong attitudes? I believe that the whole world (or almost all) the evening of Germany-Italy were fans of Italy.
Then, in Italy some have wanted (with skill and lies) to remove a piece of football history: Juventus, saying that he stole the championships.
From that moment began the decline of Italian football, year after year.
But I say fuck you, that's their problem.
We (juventus) are slowly rebuilding everything that they took with their deception.
We are not yet at the level of the top of Europe, but with small steps back to the levels of Marcello Lippi.
Mr. Conte was part of that team and knows what it means to be considered a top team and to get to be, the road is long. We will arrive with patience.
Citação de: pcssousa em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:24
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:13
Serie A was pretty good back in the 90s/early 00s. Nowadays it's pretty average.
Never appreciated the cynics of Italian teams.
My second oldest memory of football is from a match played in Italy, back in 83. Benfica defeated Roma 1-2 in Italy for the UEFA cup. They were pretty good back then and became national champion later that year. I was 5 years old.
Only faced an Italian team 3 years later, lost 1-0 to Sampdoria in Genova and won 2-0 at home.
The worst memory has to be that final with Milan in 1990. That was a great team with Baresi, Maldini, Van Basten, Gullit, Rijkaard, etc. It's sad they cheated us.
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:25
I think it's very hard, almost impossible, to dislike Italy and the Italians in general. They're pretty similar with us. The same applies to the greeks and spaniards.
As for italian football, i used to be a big fan back in the 90's. The Serie A was the best league by far. Those were the days. In the last couple of years, the league has downgraded a lot. Maybe in the future, we can see italian clubs back at the top.
Spain is our old rival/enemy. It's perfectly natural to dislike them. Italy and Greece aren't rivals/enemies.
Things went down before that for Serie A.
All of the 00s were already dominated by the marketing machine of the Premier League.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:27
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:13
Serie A was pretty good back in the 90s/early 00s. Nowadays it's pretty average.
you asked yourself why?
Until 2006, Italy was considered one of the top football ... and in 2006 we have won the championship of the world ... we stole something? We have shown pride or wrong attitudes? I believe that the whole world (or almost all) the evening of Germany-Italy were fans of Italy.
Then, in Italy some have wanted (with skill and lies) to remove a piece of football history: Juventus, saying that he stole the championships.
From that moment began the decline of Italian football, year after year.
But I say fuck you, that's their problem.
We (juventus) are slowly rebuilding everything that they took with their deception.
We are not yet at the level of the top of Europe, but with small steps back to the levels of Marcello Lippi.
Mr. Conte was part of that team and knows what it means to be considered a top team and to get to be, the road is long. We will arrive with patience.
One question for you: is Juventus really guilty?
Not judging, cause even if you were, you were punished for it and it seems like other teams were also involved and punished. And Milan was also punished many years ago.
If you're not guilty, who framed you, for what reasons?
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:29
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:25
I think it's very hard, almost impossible, to dislike Italy and the Italians in general. They're pretty similar with us. The same applies to the greeks and spaniards.
As for italian football, i used to be a big fan back in the 90's. The Serie A was the best league by far. Those were the days. In the last couple of years, the league has downgraded a lot. Maybe in the future, we can see italian clubs back at the top.
Spain is our old rival/enemy. It's perfectly natural to dislike them. Italy and Greece aren't rivals/enemies.
I don't agree with the part regarding Spain, but whatever. Anyone can have they're own opinion.
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:33
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:29
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:25
I think it's very hard, almost impossible, to dislike Italy and the Italians in general. They're pretty similar with us. The same applies to the greeks and spaniards.
As for italian football, i used to be a big fan back in the 90's. The Serie A was the best league by far. Those were the days. In the last couple of years, the league has downgraded a lot. Maybe in the future, we can see italian clubs back at the top.
Spain is our old rival/enemy. It's perfectly natural to dislike them. Italy and Greece aren't rivals/enemies.
I don't agree with the part regarding Spain, but whatever. Anyone can have they're own opinion.
I'm not saying I hate them. In fact, I'm quite indifferent to them. Just saying it's natural for people to dislike them.
I've personally always preferred countries like Germany, the Netherlands, Norway, etc.
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:33
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:29
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:25
I think it's very hard, almost impossible, to dislike Italy and the Italians in general. They're pretty similar with us. The same applies to the greeks and spaniards.
As for italian football, i used to be a big fan back in the 90's. The Serie A was the best league by far. Those were the days. In the last couple of years, the league has downgraded a lot. Maybe in the future, we can see italian clubs back at the top.
Spain is our old rival/enemy. It's perfectly natural to dislike them. Italy and Greece aren't rivals/enemies.
I don't agree with the part regarding Spain, but whatever. Anyone can have they're own opinion.
I love Spain, have many Spanish friend, my grandfather first wife was Spanish and my wife has Spanish cousins.
Always cheer for them in big championships.
I think Italians are the best race of salesman on earth. They sell an idea - than the product.
Ferrari and Lamborghini represent sex, money, power..and then a car built of varying quality depending on what decade you bought it. Same with their fashion industry and their stereo type of themselves which they have excellently given the world. 'Bella Italia... style.. passion...sexiness..history'
I believed all of that until I actually visited Italy. The reason? I went out with an Italian girl for 5 years from San Donato Val di Comino.
First impressions? The only thing truely beautiful about Italy is the country itself. Beautiful landscape, lovely architecture etc.
The bad? I have never seen such poverty besides in Brazil. The people in many regions, especially heading south have nothing. I mean poverty you dont even see in Greece - which is a far more relaxed country. The place is simply over populated. However the worst? I went to Naples for a week. Again, the crime I experienced first hand in Naples makes Brazil look like Switzerland. Also I found the Italians genuinely extremely moody and unfriendly - never offered to help and rarely smiled. We also had to visit a doctor while there - it was like going back 60 years... I have now been to Italy about 6 times. Most the time just across the border from France although I have been to Rome and Torino - which I liked. I have also been skiing there in the Italian Alps.
One of the most important factors for Italy to maintain its myth of being sexy, civilsed and advanced is the fact that so few people who promote Italy have actually ever been there. Same with Brazil. When someone mentions Brazil - you think - sexiness, samba.. passion. None of that exists - it is all mythology although I must admit the women at least in Brazil are exceptionally beautiful compared to many other countries.
Citação de: Fever em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:30
Things went down before that for Serie A.
All of the 00s were already dominated by the marketing machine of the Premier League.
That's a fact.
The Serie A was the best league from the 80's, until mid 90's. The change came in 1996 when the Euro took place in England. The Italian league remained the best for a couple more years, but England and Spain started to change the landscape of european football by that time.
Nowadays, the Serie A is the 4th best league in Europe, even the Bundesliga as overtaken them.
Citação de: Fever em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:30
Things went down before that for Serie A.
All of the 00s were already dominated by the marketing machine of the Premier League.
ok, but in 2003 In the Munchester champion's leage final there was Juventus and Milan, not Liverpool and Munchester utd ... and if we remeber correctly tahe semifinal match was Juventus-real madrid and Inter-Milan.
No english teams in semifinal.
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:35
I think Italians are the best race of salesman on earth. They sell an idea - than the product.
Ferrari and Lamborghini represent sex, money, power..and then a car built of varying quality depending on what decade you bought it. Same with their fashion industry and their stereo type of themselves which they have excellently given the world. 'Bella Italia... style.. passion...sexiness..'
I believed all of that until I actually visited Italy. The reason? I went out with an Italian girl for 5 years from San Donato Val di Comino.
First impressions? The only thing truely beautiful about Italy is the country itself. Beautiful landscape, lovely architecture etc.
The bad? I have never seen such poverty besides in Brazil. The people in many regions, especially heading south have nothing. I mean poverty you dont even see in Greece. the place is simply over populated. However the worse? I went to Naples for a week. Again, the crime I experienced first hand in Naples makes Brazil look like Switzerland. Also I found the Italians genuinely extremely moody and unfriendly. We also had to visit a doctor while there - it was like going back 60 years... I have now been to Italy about 5 times. Most the time just across the border from France although I have been to Rome and Torino - which I liked. I have also been skiing there in the Italian Alps.
One of the most important factors for Italy to maintain its myth of being sexy, civilsed and advanced is the fact that so few people who promote Italy have actually ever been there. Same with Brazil. When someone mentions Brazil - you think - sexiness, samba.. passion. None of that exists - it is all mythology although I must admit the women at least in Brazil are exceptionally beautiful.
I barely know Italy. Been to Como, Sirmione and Verona only. Haven't even been to Rome, Florence or Milan. Sirmione and Verona had pretty nice architecture indeed. As for the Italians, haven't really interacted much with them, but they did come across as being very proud people to me. Not rude, though.
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:39
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:35
I think Italians are the best race of salesman on earth. They sell an idea - than the product.
Ferrari and Lamborghini represent sex, money, power..and then a car built of varying quality depending on what decade you bought it. Same with their fashion industry and their stereo type of themselves which they have excellently given the world. 'Bella Italia... style.. passion...sexiness..'
I believed all of that until I actually visited Italy. The reason? I went out with an Italian girl for 5 years from San Donato Val di Comino.
First impressions? The only thing truely beautiful about Italy is the country itself. Beautiful landscape, lovely architecture etc.
The bad? I have never seen such poverty besides in Brazil. The people in many regions, especially heading south have nothing. I mean poverty you dont even see in Greece. the place is simply over populated. However the worse? I went to Naples for a week. Again, the crime I experienced first hand in Naples makes Brazil look like Switzerland. Also I found the Italians genuinely extremely moody and unfriendly. We also had to visit a doctor while there - it was like going back 60 years... I have now been to Italy about 5 times. Most the time just across the border from France although I have been to Rome and Torino - which I liked. I have also been skiing there in the Italian Alps.
One of the most important factors for Italy to maintain its myth of being sexy, civilsed and advanced is the fact that so few people who promote Italy have actually ever been there. Same with Brazil. When someone mentions Brazil - you think - sexiness, samba.. passion. None of that exists - it is all mythology although I must admit the women at least in Brazil are exceptionally beautiful.
I barely know Italy. Been to Como, Sirmione and Verona only. Haven't even been to Rome, Florence or Milan. Sirmione and Verona had pretty nice architecture indeed. As for the Italians, haven't really interacted much with them, but they did come across as being very proud people to me. Not rude, though.
Faliro, have you ever been here in Portugal, and how do you compare Portugal, Greece, Italy and Spain, given the fact we're all pretty much alike in paper.
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:35
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:33
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:29
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:25
I think it's very hard, almost impossible, to dislike Italy and the Italians in general. They're pretty similar with us. The same applies to the greeks and spaniards.
As for italian football, i used to be a big fan back in the 90's. The Serie A was the best league by far. Those were the days. In the last couple of years, the league has downgraded a lot. Maybe in the future, we can see italian clubs back at the top.
Spain is our old rival/enemy. It's perfectly natural to dislike them. Italy and Greece aren't rivals/enemies.
I don't agree with the part regarding Spain, but whatever. Anyone can have they're own opinion.
I'm not saying I hate them. In fact, I'm quite indifferent to them. Just saying it's natural for people to dislike them.
I've personally always preferred countries like Germany, the Netherlands, Norway, etc.
It's not natural at all, that's just your opinion. It's not a fact that all portuguese people dislikes Spain, or sees them as rival/enemy.
And i'm pretty much the opposite, since i don't like people from northern europe. We as portuguese, have much more in common with the Spaniards, Italians and Greeks.
@I agree Sousa. I also love Spain. I've studied in a Spanish college in Lisbon for 5 years.
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:46
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:35
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:33
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:29
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:25
I think it's very hard, almost impossible, to dislike Italy and the Italians in general. They're pretty similar with us. The same applies to the greeks and spaniards.
As for italian football, i used to be a big fan back in the 90's. The Serie A was the best league by far. Those were the days. In the last couple of years, the league has downgraded a lot. Maybe in the future, we can see italian clubs back at the top.
Spain is our old rival/enemy. It's perfectly natural to dislike them. Italy and Greece aren't rivals/enemies.
I don't agree with the part regarding Spain, but whatever. Anyone can have they're own opinion.
I'm not saying I hate them. In fact, I'm quite indifferent to them. Just saying it's natural for people to dislike them.
I've personally always preferred countries like Germany, the Netherlands, Norway, etc.
It's not natural at all, that's just your opinion. It's not a fact that all portuguese people dislikes Spain, or sees them as rival/enemy.
And i'm pretty much the opposite, since i don't like people from northern europe. We as portuguese, have much more in common with the Spaniards, Italians and Greeks.
@I agree Sousa. I also love Spain. I've studied in a Spanish college in Lisbon for 5 years.
I'm sure most are just indifferent to them, just like me. But if you go anywhere in the world, don't be surprised that when people dislike a country/people is usually their neighbors.
It's not really about liking the people from central/northern people. but those countries' culture(language, architecture, etc). Although, Dutch and Norwegians are pretty friendly people, from my experience.
Do you like northern/central Europe languages? I don't... Seems like they are always barking...
Citação de: pcssousa em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:52
Do you like northern/central Europe languages? I don't... Seems like they are always barking...
I do. I find German pretty cool sounding and looking. Dutch sounds ugly.. in a hilarious way. Norwegian sounds pretty jolly and funny to my ears as well. And, naturally, I like English. Danish is kinda ugly, though. And Swedish is pretty average.
When it comes to Romance languages, I'm not big on any. I guess French is the best one, but I still find it kinda average.
That's an opinion, Festivus. It's respectable, but i don't agree.
Not talking about English, naturally.
Central/northern European languages are barbaric ones. German is the worse of all. All that yelling, all that "barking"... God help us...
English is the easiest tong in the world, simple vocabulary, simple grammar.
Citação de: Jotenko em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:43
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:39
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:35
I think Italians are the best race of salesman on earth. They sell an idea - than the product.
Ferrari and Lamborghini represent sex, money, power..and then a car built of varying quality depending on what decade you bought it. Same with their fashion industry and their stereo type of themselves which they have excellently given the world. 'Bella Italia... style.. passion...sexiness..'
I believed all of that until I actually visited Italy. The reason? I went out with an Italian girl for 5 years from San Donato Val di Comino.
First impressions? The only thing truely beautiful about Italy is the country itself. Beautiful landscape, lovely architecture etc.
The bad? I have never seen such poverty besides in Brazil. The people in many regions, especially heading south have nothing. I mean poverty you dont even see in Greece. the place is simply over populated. However the worse? I went to Naples for a week. Again, the crime I experienced first hand in Naples makes Brazil look like Switzerland. Also I found the Italians genuinely extremely moody and unfriendly. We also had to visit a doctor while there - it was like going back 60 years... I have now been to Italy about 5 times. Most the time just across the border from France although I have been to Rome and Torino - which I liked. I have also been skiing there in the Italian Alps.
One of the most important factors for Italy to maintain its myth of being sexy, civilsed and advanced is the fact that so few people who promote Italy have actually ever been there. Same with Brazil. When someone mentions Brazil - you think - sexiness, samba.. passion. None of that exists - it is all mythology although I must admit the women at least in Brazil are exceptionally beautiful.
I barely know Italy. Been to Como, Sirmione and Verona only. Haven't even been to Rome, Florence or Milan. Sirmione and Verona had pretty nice architecture indeed. As for the Italians, haven't really interacted much with them, but they did come across as being very proud people to me. Not rude, though.
Faliro, have you ever been here in Portugal, and how do you compare Portugal, Greece, Italy and Spain, given the fact we're all pretty much alike in paper.
Sadly I have only been to Lisbon airport for stop overs - about 5 times, on my way to Brazil..
However, the airport seems exceptionally nice and the Portuguese seem friendly and can share a joke. Also the women seem very friendly. :kiss: When we would fly over Lisbon, I could see clearly all the houses and even the stadium. It looks like a great place. My friend says it is his favorite place to go for a weekend of fun and has many portuguese friends from there.
Spain I love. Civilised, nice weather, nice architecture - history, nice women - I just find Spain a very cool place. I especially like the Balerics and Catalunya. Nice beaches, nice atmosphere..I even thought Madrid was a nice place too. I would like to go to San Sabastian and the north just for the food as for me, the only thing I am not crazy about is the food in the south (besides the jamons) - however I always enjoy Basque and Galicean food - which I find excellent.
Now the complicated matter of comparisons... Personally - I like to be relaxed in a country, so southern Italy, where people buzz around you like flies and are always in your business is out the question. I find Italy a very hard land to live in.
Spain - easy life.
Greece - even easier - Greece is home of the bar - the fat guy relaxing in his flat watching football his plasma tv. Also Athens has very little in common with other cities in Spain, Portugal, Italy and France. It looks different and feels different. I say that because there are countless towns in Spain, France and Italy that look almost identical.
From what I can see, Greece and Spain have much in common. Portugal.. I am sure if it wasn't for the language, many portuguese would not have to change much of their habits to live in Greece or Spain... Italy is its own animal.
As for peoples, I would say Greeks are the most relaxed and simply don't care about much of anything. They have the moody aspect Italians have but they are far more fun loving than Italians - who only seem to go crazy when they go on holiday.
Spanish are quite proud and but can be too clever for their own good sometimes. I feel if they were slightly more advanced mentally, their country could be a world beater but they have a bit too much arrogance. Portuguese, from my experiences have certain aspects of western Spanish populations but at the same time have a distinct character which means you can't confuse the two peoples. In London, most the Greeks Spanish and Portuguese would grow up together and be friends however there were many many marriages between spanish and italians.. which from what I could see, almost always ended badly..
I am not that keen on northern europeans and dislike in general germans who I find neurotic.
For me, the true beauty of the Mediterranean is the landscape, not the people.. after all..who can resist...
(http://www.we-love-crete.com/images/elafonisi-by-wolfgang-staudt.jpg)
Citação de: pcssousa em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:32
One question for you: is Juventus really guilty?
Not judging, cause even if you were, you were punished for it and it seems like other teams were also involved and punished. And Milan was also punished many years ago.
If you're not guilty, who framed you, for what reasons?
The story is very complex.
In 2006, the then leadership ( Moggi, Giraudo and Bettega ) wanted to become the owners of juventus .
This was seen in a bad eye by the owners of Fiat.
It took a scandal to oust Moggi and partners.
Calciopoli was born .
Do you think that , in the process sporty , juventus 's lawyer said : " The series B with penalty points is a just punishment ."
O my God , the one who had to defend Juve had condemned before the courts ... this is madness.
There was talk of warnings targeted for players of the teams they faced the juventus the next round , but it was discovered ( after a long time and made the process ) that many of those players were not even warned .
There was talk of referees rigged draw , but even here the ordinary court (contrary to what sport) has ruled that the draw was correct.
Moggi was accused of having locked a referee in the locker room , which was absolutely out of the ordinary court .
I still remember the prosecutor said, " Inter do not exist incriminating phone calls on referees " ... years later Inter was graced by the prescription of crimes and many phone calls have been found .
What I wrote is just the tip of the iceberg.
The scandal also involved other teams, but only the juventus was sent to B, while AC Milan ( director had a direct telephone contact with the referees )was downgraded by 8 points, just to play in the CL, then won.
Great post, thanks!
I believe Greeks have many stories regarding Italians and Germans from the WW II days...
The Germans were exceptionally cruel to the Greek civilians and 300,000 Greeks starved to death in one year under the occupation. The germans also burned monasteries and massacred various villages..
The Italians were there for fun. They didn't believe in the war and when they tried to invade Greece just before the Germans, they were easily beaten by the Greeks. The Italians who took most the islands thanks to the germans..were shocked at how similar Greek culture was to their own.. wine, music, olive oil... no one was bothered by the Italians.. to give an example.. after the war.. any woman who had slept with a german soldier under the occupation was usually murdered in the town square and left to rot.. however I am sure many Greek girls slept with Italians and no one cared..
Going further back the ventetians who ruled many Greek islands were very cruel also and Greeks were treated like animals by the venetians.. Turks, Jews and Genoese were all placed above Greeks by the Venetians..even though the majority of each island was almost 98% Greek.. however that did more damage to religion than personality...meaning.. Greeks have bad memories of catholics from the crusades up until the venetians..because of this bad treatment, greeks often returned the favour and would not even bother to give a funeral or a grave to anyone who died who was assumed to be a catholic.. but that stuff all ended before the first world war.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:03
Citação de: pcssousa em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:32
One question for you: is Juventus really guilty?
Not judging, cause even if you were, you were punished for it and it seems like other teams were also involved and punished. And Milan was also punished many years ago.
If you're not guilty, who framed you, for what reasons?
The story is very complex.
In 2006, the then leadership ( Moggi, Giraudo and Bettega ) wanted to become the owners of juventus .
This was seen in a bad eye by the owners of Fiat.
It took a scandal to oust Moggi and partners.
Calciopoli was born .
Do you think that , in the process sporty , juventus 's lawyer said : " The series B with penalty points is a just punishment ."
O my God , the one who had to defend Juve had condemned before the courts ... this is madness.
There was talk of warnings targeted for players of the teams they faced the juventus the next round , but it was discovered ( after a long time and made the process ) that many of those players were not even warned .
There was talk of referees rigged draw , but even here the ordinary court (contrary to what sport) has ruled that the draw was correct.
Moggi was accused of having locked a referee in the locker room , which was absolutely out of the ordinary court .
I still remember the prosecutor said, " Inter do not exist incriminating phone calls on referees " ... years later Inter was graced by the prescription of crimes and many phone calls have been found .
What I wrote is just the tip of the iceberg.
The scandal also involved other teams, but only the juventus was sent to B, while AC Milan ( director had a direct telephone contact with the referees )was downgraded by 8 points, just to play in the CL, then won.
Back here, we have phone calls recordings of Porto's chairman buying referees and directors all sort of things... They were not punished since they argued those recordings were illegal.
We have the proofs, anyone can listen to them on YouTube, but all they did to them was nothing.
Shitty country, isn't it?
Citação de: pcssousa em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:09
I believe Greeks have many stories regarding Italians and Germans from the WW II days...
Many loves were born during the Second World War soldiers Italian and Greek women.
The worst memories, however, are linked to the Italians: Italian after the signing of the armistice with the Allies were considered traitors from germany and was made rough justice of many soldiers by the Germans.
Divisions whole exterminated by German fire in Greece.
I think the greek friend has heard of the "Acqui Division."
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:15
The Germans were exceptionally cruel to the Greek civilians and 300,000 Greeks starved to death in one year under the occupation. The germans also burned monasteries and massacred various villages..
The Italians were there for fun. They didn't believe in the war and when they tried to invade Greece just before the Germans, they were easily beaten by the Greeks. The Italians who took most the islands thanks to the germans..were shocked at how similar Greek culture was to their own.. wine, music, olive oil... no one was bothered by the Italians.. to give an example.. after the war.. any woman who had slept with a german soldier under the occupation was usually murdered in the town square and left to rot.. however I am sure many Greek girls slept with Italians and no one cared..
To be honest, I really dislike Germans. Only love their cars...
Citação de: pcssousa em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:18
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:15
The Germans were exceptionally cruel to the Greek civilians and 300,000 Greeks starved to death in one year under the occupation. The germans also burned monasteries and massacred various villages..
The Italians were there for fun. They didn't believe in the war and when they tried to invade Greece just before the Germans, they were easily beaten by the Greeks. The Italians who took most the islands thanks to the germans..were shocked at how similar Greek culture was to their own.. wine, music, olive oil... no one was bothered by the Italians.. to give an example.. after the war.. any woman who had slept with a german soldier under the occupation was usually murdered in the town square and left to rot.. however I am sure many Greek girls slept with Italians and no one cared..
To be honest, I really dislike Germans. Only love their cars...
Don't really care for Germans as a people. I like their country, their culture and their products, though.
People I dislike... Brazilians, perhaps. Some Americans can be quite douchey as well.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:17
Citação de: pcssousa em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:09
I believe Greeks have many stories regarding Italians and Germans from the WW II days...
Many loves were born during the Second World War soldiers Italian and Greek women.
The worst memories, however, are linked to the Italians: Italian after the signing of the armistice with the Allies were considered traitors from germany and was made rough justice of many soldiers by the Germans.
Divisions whole exterminated by German fire in Greece.
I think the greek friend has heard of the "Acqui Division."
As Faliro said, Italians are and were completely different from Germans.
I don't like America overall. Nothing against the people. They don't have much history... it's like they don't have much substance afterall. I love being european in so many levels.
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:19
Citação de: pcssousa em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:18
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:15
The Germans were exceptionally cruel to the Greek civilians and 300,000 Greeks starved to death in one year under the occupation. The germans also burned monasteries and massacred various villages..
The Italians were there for fun. They didn't believe in the war and when they tried to invade Greece just before the Germans, they were easily beaten by the Greeks. The Italians who took most the islands thanks to the germans..were shocked at how similar Greek culture was to their own.. wine, music, olive oil... no one was bothered by the Italians.. to give an example.. after the war.. any woman who had slept with a german soldier under the occupation was usually murdered in the town square and left to rot.. however I am sure many Greek girls slept with Italians and no one cared..
To be honest, I really dislike Germans. Only love their cars...
Don't really care for Germans as a people. I like their country, their culture and their products, though.
People I dislike... Brazilians, perhaps. Some Americans can be quite douchey as well.
Yeah, they also have nice sausages, but I prefer our own beer.
Met some German who also prefer ours to theirs.
Citação de: pcssousa em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:22
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:19
Citação de: pcssousa em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:18
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:15
The Germans were exceptionally cruel to the Greek civilians and 300,000 Greeks starved to death in one year under the occupation. The germans also burned monasteries and massacred various villages..
The Italians were there for fun. They didn't believe in the war and when they tried to invade Greece just before the Germans, they were easily beaten by the Greeks. The Italians who took most the islands thanks to the germans..were shocked at how similar Greek culture was to their own.. wine, music, olive oil... no one was bothered by the Italians.. to give an example.. after the war.. any woman who had slept with a german soldier under the occupation was usually murdered in the town square and left to rot.. however I am sure many Greek girls slept with Italians and no one cared..
To be honest, I really dislike Germans. Only love their cars...
Don't really care for Germans as a people. I like their country, their culture and their products, though.
People I dislike... Brazilians, perhaps. Some Americans can be quite douchey as well.
Yeah, they also have nice sausages, but I prefer our own beer.
Met some German who also prefer ours to theirs.
When I am masturbating, I like to spit in my genitals. That way I'm lubricating myself.
Citação de: pcssousa em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:22
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:19
Citação de: pcssousa em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:18
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:15
The Germans were exceptionally cruel to the Greek civilians and 300,000 Greeks starved to death in one year under the occupation. The germans also burned monasteries and massacred various villages..
The Italians were there for fun. They didn't believe in the war and when they tried to invade Greece just before the Germans, they were easily beaten by the Greeks. The Italians who took most the islands thanks to the germans..were shocked at how similar Greek culture was to their own.. wine, music, olive oil... no one was bothered by the Italians.. to give an example.. after the war.. any woman who had slept with a german soldier under the occupation was usually murdered in the town square and left to rot.. however I am sure many Greek girls slept with Italians and no one cared..
To be honest, I really dislike Germans. Only love their cars...
Don't really care for Germans as a people. I like their country, their culture and their products, though.
People I dislike... Brazilians, perhaps. Some Americans can be quite douchey as well.
Yeah, they also have nice sausages, but I prefer our own beer.
Met some German who also prefer ours to theirs.
Erdinger is pretty good stuff. But Germany does not have the best beer in the world. That award belongs to Belgium. There's literally hundreds of Belgian beers.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:17
Citação de: pcssousa em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:09
I believe Greeks have many stories regarding Italians and Germans from the WW II days...
Many loves were born during the Second World War soldiers Italian and Greek women.
The worst memories, however, are linked to the Italians: Italian after the signing of the armistice with the Allies were considered traitors from germany and was made rough justice of many soldiers by the Germans.
Divisions whole exterminated by German fire in Greece.
I think the greek friend has heard of the "Acqui Division."
The Greeks tried to save many of the Italians.. what happened to the Italians was disgusting.. when I was a boy I would see in many island ports, plaques on the floor.. something like 'from this spot left 200 Italian soldiers who never returned to Italy.' These plaques were everywhere.. Of course the Germans went out there way to massacre as many Italians as they could. It does bring a tear to my eye, the Italians did not deserve this..
(http://i.imgur.com/VJyqN72.jpg)
Oh for fuck sake :2funny:
Citação de: Jotenko em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:20
I don't like America overall. Nothing against the people. They don't have much history... it's like they don't have much substance afterall. I love being european in so many levels.
It's kind of a plastic country, yes.
Just the thought of disliking an entire population is stupid.
If I looked at things that way I'm pretty sure I would really dislike the portuguese... though everyone I like is portuguese.
Sorry to be rude and off-topic but I can never get my head around this discussion about which group of completely different people is better based on where they were born.
Citação de: Fever em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:28
Just the thought of disliking an entire population is stupid.
If I looked at things that way I'm pretty sure I would really dislike the portuguese... though everyone I like is portuguese.
Sorry to be rude and off-topic but I can never get my head around this discussion about which group of completely different people is better based on where they were born.
I'm not racist. I hate everyone equally.
:smokin:
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:37
Citação de: Fever em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:30
Things went down before that for Serie A.
All of the 00s were already dominated by the marketing machine of the Premier League.
ok, but in 2003 In the Munchester champion's leage final there was Juventus and Milan, not Liverpool and Munchester utd ... and if we remeber correctly tahe semifinal match was Juventus-real madrid and Inter-Milan.
No english teams in semifinal.
Definitely. On the pitch italian clubs were clearly the most feared in the early 00s.
But the popularity of the league as a whole was free falling because of the marketing power and the potential of the Premier League.
I think Serie A has the potential to become bigger than La Liga globally honestly. You have incredible passion and 10 or more historic european clubs. Plus, "everyone" hates each other.
You just have to sell your league better. Hosting an international competition would definitely help.
Citação de: Fever em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:37
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:37
Citação de: Fever em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:30
Things went down before that for Serie A.
All of the 00s were already dominated by the marketing machine of the Premier League.
ok, but in 2003 In the Munchester champion's leage final there was Juventus and Milan, not Liverpool and Munchester utd ... and if we remeber correctly tahe semifinal match was Juventus-real madrid and Inter-Milan.
No english teams in semifinal.
Definitely. On the pitch italian clubs were clearly the most feared in the early 00s.
But the popularity of the league as a whole was free falling because of the marketing power and the potential of the Premier League.
I think Serie A has the potential to become bigger than La Liga globally honestly. You have incredible passion and 10 or more historic european clubs. Plus, "everyone" hates each other.
You just have to sell your league better. Hosting an international competition would definitely help.
La Liga has more people in the stadiums, I guess. Much more.
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:23
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:17
Citação de: pcssousa em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:09
I believe Greeks have many stories regarding Italians and Germans from the WW II days...
Many loves were born during the Second World War soldiers Italian and Greek women.
The worst memories, however, are linked to the Italians: Italian after the signing of the armistice with the Allies were considered traitors from germany and was made rough justice of many soldiers by the Germans.
Divisions whole exterminated by German fire in Greece.
I think the greek friend has heard of the "Acqui Division."
The Greeks tried to save many of the Italians.. what happened to the Italians was disgusting.. when I was a boy I would see in many island ports, plaques on the floor.. something like 'from this spot left 200 Italian soldiers who never returned to Italy.' These plaques were everywhere.. Of course the Germans went out there way to massacre as many Italians as they could. It does bring a tear to my eye, the Italians did not deserve this..
Clearly we are talking about generations ago ... luckily now the German people is not what it ... at least I hope ;D
Citação de: pcssousa em 16 de Abril de 2014, 17:11
Citação de: Fever em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:37
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:37
Citação de: Fever em 16 de Abril de 2014, 15:30
Things went down before that for Serie A.
All of the 00s were already dominated by the marketing machine of the Premier League.
ok, but in 2003 In the Munchester champion's leage final there was Juventus and Milan, not Liverpool and Munchester utd ... and if we remeber correctly tahe semifinal match was Juventus-real madrid and Inter-Milan.
No english teams in semifinal.
Definitely. On the pitch italian clubs were clearly the most feared in the early 00s.
But the popularity of the league as a whole was free falling because of the marketing power and the potential of the Premier League.
I think Serie A has the potential to become bigger than La Liga globally honestly. You have incredible passion and 10 or more historic european clubs. Plus, "everyone" hates each other.
You just have to sell your league better. Hosting an international competition would definitely help.
La Liga has more people in the stadiums, I guess. Much more.
The crucial point I think is how you sell your product.
If you sell it as a spectacle (England) profit and revenue, including international approval.
If you sell it as an industry (Italy) do little revenue.
Football is a sport, a show.
All I have to live this way.
If you are a commercial importance, the show and the interest in it dies.
This happens in Italy, where the club first thing they want more revenue from TV rights.
Fools, because if you show that you are offering is indecent, you will receive a little money.
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:15
...
The Italians were there for fun. They didn't believe in the war and when they tried to invade Greece just before the Germans, they were easily beaten by the Greeks. The Italians who took most the islands thanks to the germans..were shocked at how similar Greek culture was to their own.. wine, music, olive oil... no one was bothered by the Italians.. to give an example.. after the war.. any woman who had slept with a german soldier under the occupation was usually murdered in the town square and left to rot.. however I am sure many Greek girls slept with Italians and no one cared..
...
In this regard, I recommend watching the movie "The Captain Corelli's Mandolin".
in the film is narrated everything you've written about the Italians in Greece during World War II.
Starring Nicolas Cage (Captain Corelli) who falls for the beautiful Pelagia (Penelope Cruz), betrothed with partisan greek Mandras (cristian bale).
I remember seeing that movie, Juventino. Very good!
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 16 de Abril de 2014, 19:19
I remember seeing that movie, Juventino. Very good!
Agree, Penélope is a hot woman.
good luck for tonight's game :metal:
Citação de: pcssousa em 16 de Abril de 2014, 19:25
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 16 de Abril de 2014, 19:19
I remember seeing that movie, Juventino. Very good!
Agree, Penélope is a hot woman.
That bastard Javier Bardem, lucky guy. ;D
@Thanks Juventino! O0
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 16 de Abril de 2014, 19:28
good luck for tonight's game :metal:
Thank you very much. Hope we can win and go to the final.
Sounds like an interesting movie. Shame it starrs Nicholas Cage, though.
Benfica 3-1 Porto (Portuguese Cup semi-finals, 2nd leg)
16' Salvio scores (1-0)
27' Siqueira sent off (Benfica down to 10 men already)
Only god knows when, but around 47' Varela scores (1-1)
50' Enzo scores (2-1 to Benfica)
79' André Gomes (3-1)
84' Jorge Jesus sent off
86' Porto manager sent off (nobody knows his name, not relevant)
88' Quaresma sent off (after 61', both teams have an equal number of players again)
3-2 on aggregate :winner:
Epic night!
we're going to win the cup of Portugal :metal:
.... but not the Europa League :)
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 17 de Abril de 2014, 09:39
we're going to win the cup of Portugal :metal:
.... but not the Europa League :)
Sorry...you're next.
Citação de: Joaquim Ferreira Bogalho em 17 de Abril de 2014, 11:00
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 17 de Abril de 2014, 09:39
we're going to win the cup of Portugal :metal:
.... but not the Europa League :)
Sorry...you're next.
sure, the next to win the Europa League :D
:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDllYrh5X10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDllYrh5X10)
video that gives me the chills
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLBZsUTlSD0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLBZsUTlSD0)
I think the game of yesterday was the one of the best that I saw in my life. Not for the quality of the game, but was a quantity of feelings that is impossible to describe.
We killed a lot of ghosts last night. Now the sky is the limit.
I'm completely sure that we will beat Juve in this semi-finals.
Yesterday we saw and feel mystic
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 17 de Abril de 2014, 11:13
Citação de: Joaquim Ferreira Bogalho em 17 de Abril de 2014, 11:00
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 17 de Abril de 2014, 09:39
we're going to win the cup of Portugal :metal:
.... but not the Europa League :)
Sorry...you're next.
sure, the next to win the Europa League :D
:)
Let's just wait and see...
But believe me, it's going to be tougher than you think...
Citação de: Vitor84 em 17 de Abril de 2014, 11:35
I think the game of yesterday was the one of the best that I saw in my life. Not for the quality of the game, but was a quantity of feelings that is impossible to describe.
We killed a lot of ghosts last night. Now the sky is the limit.
I'm completely sure that we will beat Juve in this semi-finals.
There is a real and concrete possibility of shitting in our pants in your stadium.
I've also written in the forum Juventus.
If we take a crush, we can out of the stadium with a couple of goals down.
If you defeat would be for us, I hope to lose 2-1 ... the return games will still be open.
Obviously I'm hoping for a positive outcome in Lisbon or at least a draw with goals (2-2, 3-3).
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 17 de Abril de 2014, 11:24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLBZsUTlSD0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLBZsUTlSD0)
Benfica is in war with "Sport TV" a portuguese TV that had until the last year the monopoly of transmission of football games in Portugal. Since this season Benfica finished the contract with that tv and the games of Benfica in our stadium are playing in Benfica TV. With this Sport TV started to have a lot of financial problems, and now they have this stupid behavior the comments in Benfica games in them chanel are ridiculous taking always the side of the others, they don't repeat or show some moments of the game that can help Benfica or repeat many times if is something wrong against benfica and everything about Benfica in youtube like videos about our players, resume of games, etc they complain about rights that they have and are always unavailable.
But if you want the resume of yesterday you can see here: http://www.tvgolo.com/match-showfull-1397671103---39
Citação de: Vitor84 em 17 de Abril de 2014, 11:52
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 17 de Abril de 2014, 11:24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLBZsUTlSD0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLBZsUTlSD0)
Benfica is in war with "Sport TV" a portuguese TV that had until the last year the monopoly of transmission of football games in Portugal. Since this season Benfica finished the contract with that tv and the games of Benfica in our stadium are playing in Benfica TV. With this Sport TV started to have a lot of financial problems, and now they have this stupid behavior the comments in Benfica games in them chanel are ridiculous taking always the side of the others, they don't repeat or show some moments of the game that can help Benfica or repeat many times if is something wrong against benfica and everything about Benfica in youtube like videos about our players, resume of games, etc they complain about rights that they have and are always unavailable.
But if you want the resume of yesterday you can see here: http://www.tvgolo.com/match-showfull-1397671103---39
yes, ok ... i've see
the video that i've posted has been deleted
Porto team sucks a lot, they don't have any creative mids, the full backs except for Mangala are horrible , the only player that creates some danger is Quaresma.. i dunno how they managed to win against Napoli.
Juventus is another level.
Citação de: kneissl em 17 de Abril de 2014, 12:15
Porto team sucks a lot, they don't have any creative mids, the full backs except for Mangala are horrible , the only player that creates some danger is Quaresma.. i dunno how they managed to win against Napoli.
Juventus is another level.
I know.
Benitez.
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 12:17
Citação de: kneissl em 17 de Abril de 2014, 12:15
Porto team sucks a lot, they don't have any creative mids, the full backs except for Mangala are horrible , the only player that creates some danger is Quaresma.. i dunno how they managed to win against Napoli.
Juventus is another level.
I know.
Benitez.
I forgot about that piece of shit
If Benfica go through:
Benfica 1-0 Juventus
Juventus 2-1 Benfica
JUVENTINO:
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/17/ha9emejy.jpg)
From a Valencian newspaper.
I really think the winner of our semi-final will take the cup.
Benfica didn't play well yesterday, but playing with 10 men for 50 or 60 minutes, it's not easy. We won because our team is very strong mentally.
Against Juventus, i'm sure they're going suffer, not only because of 60 thousand people in the stands, but mainly because of the quality of our team. If we have all our players 100% fisically(minus Silvio), Juventus is going to suffer a lot.
I predict a 2-0 win for us.
@I agree, Sousa. The team that does go through between Benfica and Juve, will win the cup.
Is Platini drunk?
Citação de: kneissl em 17 de Abril de 2014, 12:15
Porto team sucks a lot, they don't have any creative mids, the full backs except for Mangala are horrible , the only player that creates some danger is Quaresma.. i dunno how they managed to win against Napoli.
Juventus is another level.
Of course Juve is another level... You're right, we don't have a chance.
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 12:49
Is Platini drunk?
He was at our stadium yesterday watching the match. He also visited Eusébio's grave.
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 12:31
If Benfica go through:
Benfica 1-0 Juventus
Juventus 2-1 Benfica
benfica-juve 2-1
juve-benfica 3-0
Citação de: pcssousa em 17 de Abril de 2014, 13:47
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 12:49
Is Platini drunk?
We was at our stadium yesterday watching the match. He also visited Eusébio's grave.
I'm aware. But that doesn't answer my question.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 17 de Abril de 2014, 14:55
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 12:31
If Benfica go through:
Benfica 1-0 Juventus
Juventus 2-1 Benfica
benfica-juve 2-1
juve-benfica 3-0
I don't see us conceding 3 goals and not scoring a single one.
Citação de: pcssousa em 17 de Abril de 2014, 13:46
Citação de: kneissl em 17 de Abril de 2014, 12:15
Porto team sucks a lot, they don't have any creative mids, the full backs except for Mangala are horrible , the only player that creates some danger is Quaresma.. i dunno how they managed to win against Napoli.
Juventus is another level.
Of Juve is another level... You're right, we don't have a chance.
Jokes aside, I repeat: There is a real and concrete possibility that we shitting in our pants in your stadium.
if we lose our head, we really run the risk of going out of Portugal with a basket full of goals.
That said, I think it will be a semifinal worthy of a champion league semi-final.
and, seriously, who passes this round, then won the Cup.
allowing fate (given the past of the two teams). :cry2: :disgust:
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:00
Citação de: pcssousa em 17 de Abril de 2014, 13:47
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 12:49
Is Platini drunk?
We was at our stadium yesterday watching the match. He also visited Eusébio's grave.
I'm aware. But that doesn't answer my question.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 17 de Abril de 2014, 14:55
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 12:31
If Benfica go through:
Benfica 1-0 Juventus
Juventus 2-1 Benfica
benfica-juve 2-1
juve-benfica 3-0
I don't see us conceding 3 goals and not scoring a single one.
and if the whole story ended on penalty kicks?
benfica-juventus 2-2
juventus-benfica 2-2
how are you with penalty kicks? :confused:
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:08
Citação de: pcssousa em 17 de Abril de 2014, 13:46
Citação de: kneissl em 17 de Abril de 2014, 12:15
Porto team sucks a lot, they don't have any creative mids, the full backs except for Mangala are horrible , the only player that creates some danger is Quaresma.. i dunno how they managed to win against Napoli.
Juventus is another level.
Of Juve is another level... You're right, we don't have a chance.
Jokes aside, I repeat: There is a real and concrete possibility that we shitting in our pants in your stadium.
if we lose our head, we really run the risk of going out of Portugal with a basket full of goals.
That said, I think it will be a semifinal worthy of a champion league semi-final.
and, seriously, who passes this round, then won the Cup.
allowing fate (given the past of the two teams). :cry2: :disgust:
I don't see either team crushing the other. We're very moralized and playing well, but even on a god night I don't see us beating you 3-0 or 4-1. Then again, I don't see you beating us 3-0 or 4-1 either.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:12
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:00
Citação de: pcssousa em 17 de Abril de 2014, 13:47
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 12:49
Is Platini drunk?
We was at our stadium yesterday watching the match. He also visited Eusébio's grave.
I'm aware. But that doesn't answer my question.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 17 de Abril de 2014, 14:55
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 12:31
If Benfica go through:
Benfica 1-0 Juventus
Juventus 2-1 Benfica
benfica-juve 2-1
juve-benfica 3-0
I don't see us conceding 3 goals and not scoring a single one.
and if the whole story ended on penalty kicks?
benfica-juventus 2-2
juventus-benfica 2-2
how are you with penalty kicks? :confused:
I haven't seen Benfica going into PKs many times, to be honest. I only remember 2 Cup matches against Sporting with us beating them in both shootouts.
However, we have lost a European Champions Cup final in the PKs against PSV before.
Juventus are favourites but a full force Benfica (something yet to see in this Europa League) will create some damage. Enzo / Markovic / Gaitán / Salvio / Rodrigo / Lima have the ability to tear apart any defence, even such a strong one like the bianconeri have. My biggest fear is Pirlo. Can easily score an away goal if we make a foul.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3emYXaj09Es
Both Benfica and Juventus are cruising in their leagues, this will be a big test for both teams. Serie A and Portuguese League aren't being exactly a challenge. Porto (3rd) eliminated Napoli (3rd in Serie A), for example, and they're mediocre this season, as their loss against a 10 men Benfica showed us yesterday. I would say the odds are 55-45 in Juventus favour but should be quite interesting. Definitely the most exciting european game in some time, always nice to play an european semi-final against an european powerhouse. The recent Europa League semi-finals against Braga and Fenerbahce lacked some football flavour.
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:14
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:12
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:00
Citação de: pcssousa em 17 de Abril de 2014, 13:47
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 12:49
Is Platini drunk?
We was at our stadium yesterday watching the match. He also visited Eusébio's grave.
I'm aware. But that doesn't answer my question.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 17 de Abril de 2014, 14:55
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 12:31
If Benfica go through:
Benfica 1-0 Juventus
Juventus 2-1 Benfica
benfica-juve 2-1
juve-benfica 3-0
I don't see us conceding 3 goals and not scoring a single one.
and if the whole story ended on penalty kicks?
benfica-juventus 2-2
juventus-benfica 2-2
how are you with penalty kicks? :confused:
I haven't seen Benfica going into PKs many times, to be honest. I only remember 2 Cup matches against Sporting with us beating them in both shootouts.
However, we have lost a European Champions Cup final in the PKs against PSV before.
I remember very well, however, lost the final against AC Milan on penalties in 2003.
who cried that night ...
moreover, if it goes Montero to beat the penalty kick, you can not expect the goal (with all due respect to Montero ... immense footballer)
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:20
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:14
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:12
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:00
Citação de: pcssousa em 17 de Abril de 2014, 13:47
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 12:49
Is Platini drunk?
We was at our stadium yesterday watching the match. He also visited Eusébio's grave.
I'm aware. But that doesn't answer my question.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 17 de Abril de 2014, 14:55
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 12:31
If Benfica go through:
Benfica 1-0 Juventus
Juventus 2-1 Benfica
benfica-juve 2-1
juve-benfica 3-0
I don't see us conceding 3 goals and not scoring a single one.
and if the whole story ended on penalty kicks?
benfica-juventus 2-2
juventus-benfica 2-2
how are you with penalty kicks? :confused:
I haven't seen Benfica going into PKs many times, to be honest. I only remember 2 Cup matches against Sporting with us beating them in both shootouts.
However, we have lost a European Champions Cup final in the PKs against PSV before.
I remember very well, however, lost the final against AC Milan on penalties in 2003.
who cried that night ...
moreover, if it goes Montero to beat the penalty kick, you can not expect the goal (with all due respect to Montero ... immense footballer)
I remember very well the Juventus vs. AC Milan final. It was pretty boring, to be honest. Also a shame that Nedved didn't play.
Citação de: Darkboy em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:19
Juventus are favourites but a full force Benfica (something yet to see in this Europa League) will create some damage. Enzo / Markovic / Gaitán / Salvio / Rodrigo / Lima have the ability to tear apart any defence, even such a strong one like the bianconeri have. My biggest fear is Pirlo. Can easily score an away goal if we make a foul.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3emYXaj09Es
Both Benfica and Juventus are cruising in their leagues, this will be a big test for both teams. Serie A and Portuguese League aren't being exactly a challenge. Porto (3rd) eliminated Napoli (3rd in Serie A), for example, and they're mediocre this season, as their loss against a 10 men Benfica showed us yesterday. I would say the odds are 55-45 in Juventus favour but should be quite interesting. Definitely the most exciting european game in some time, always nice to play an european semi-final against an european powerhouse. The recent Europa League semi-finals against Braga and Fenerbahce lacked some football flavour.
I agree with you.
The Europa league this year is enhanced by the presence of two big European teams in the semifinals.
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:21
I remember very well the Juventus vs. AC Milan final. It was pretty boring, to be honest. Also a shame that Nedved didn't play.
will have been boring for you that you were a neutral spectator. ;D
I remember the tension that you could touch it with a hand that night. :2funny:
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:27
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:21
I remember very well the Juventus vs. AC Milan final. It was pretty boring, to be honest. Also a shame that Nedved didn't play.
will have been boring for you that you were a neutral spectator. ;D
I remember the tension that you could touch it with a hand that night. :2funny:
Yea, I can imagine how tense people were during the PKs. The crowd sure looked nervous.
In general, those who mourn the three European Cups and their formulas?
I remember the Uefa Cup was a fucking cup difficult to win: in the cup were the best European teams of the year.
What's up with Platini's face?
It kinda looks like he has Down's Syndrome.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:30
In general, those who mourn the three European Cups and their formulas?
I remember the Uefa Cup was a fucking cup difficult to win: in the cup were the best European teams of the year.
I'm afraid that when I started to watch football, the ECC and the Cup Winner's Cup didn't exist anymore.
I don't like how there's a group stage in the Europa League.
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:28
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:27
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:21
I remember very well the Juventus vs. AC Milan final. It was pretty boring, to be honest. Also a shame that Nedved didn't play.
will have been boring for you that you were a neutral spectator. ;D
I remember the tension that you could touch it with a hand that night. :2funny:
Yea, I can imagine how tense people were during the PKs. The crowd sure looked nervous.
that night, I saw the game with some friends Juventus in a cinema in my country, which for the occasion threw the final.
of course, like me and my friends, others were to the cinema.
Of course, there were many Juventus fans, but also many Milan fans.
The cinema hall became a football stadium.
Imagine the roar of the fans of AC Milan after the last penalty scored by Sheva and imagine our disappointment.
Some also came to beating ... but those are idiots..
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:40
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:28
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:27
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:21
I remember very well the Juventus vs. AC Milan final. It was pretty boring, to be honest. Also a shame that Nedved didn't play.
will have been boring for you that you were a neutral spectator. ;D
I remember the tension that you could touch it with a hand that night. :2funny:
Yea, I can imagine how tense people were during the PKs. The crowd sure looked nervous.
that night, I saw the game with some friends Juventus in a cinema in my country, which for the occasion threw the final.
of course, like me and my friends, others were to the cinema.
Of course, there were many Juventus fans, but also many Milan fans.
The cinema hall became a football stadium.
Imagine the roar of the fans of AC Milan after the last penalty scored by Sheva and imagine our disappointment.
Some also came to beating ... but those are idiots..
Which club do you hate the most? Internazionale or AC Milan?
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:41
Which club do you hate the most? Internazionale or AC Milan?
Obviously, Inter.
They claim to have won the league title in 2006.
Assigned to them by the FIGC because honest.
the juventus instead is corrupt.
We fans of juventus, that title we call it: "Scudetto cardboard"
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:48
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:41
Which club do you hate the most? Internazionale or AC Milan?
Obviously, Inter.
They claim to have won the league title in 2006.
Assigned to them by the FIGC because honest.
the juventus instead is corrupt.
We fans of juventus, that title we call it: "Scudetto cardboard"
Most Benfica fans hate Porto the most. Porto fans hate Benfica the most as well. Sporting fans hate Benfica the most.
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:49
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:48
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:41
Which club do you hate the most? Internazionale or AC Milan?
Obviously, Inter.
They claim to have won the league title in 2006.
Assigned to them by the FIGC because honest.
the juventus instead is corrupt.
We fans of juventus, that title we call it: "Scudetto cardboard"
Most Benfica fans hate Porto the most. Porto fans hate Benfica the most as well. Sporting fans hate Benfica the most.
off topic:
If I had to come on holiday to Portugal, what do you recommend?
The islands are beautiful from the point of view of nature? (Madeira)
or is it more interesting to visit the art cities of Lisbon?
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:53
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:49
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:48
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:41
Which club do you hate the most? Internazionale or AC Milan?
Obviously, Inter.
They claim to have won the league title in 2006.
Assigned to them by the FIGC because honest.
the juventus instead is corrupt.
We fans of juventus, that title we call it: "Scudetto cardboard"
Most Benfica fans hate Porto the most. Porto fans hate Benfica the most as well. Sporting fans hate Benfica the most.
off topic:
If I had to come on holiday to Portugal, what do you recommend?
The islands are beautiful from the point of view of nature? (Madeira)
or is it more interesting to visit the art cities of Lisbon?
I live in Lisboa, so I definitely recommend going to Lisboa if you ever happen to travel to Portugal.
I've been to Madeira a couple of times when I was a kid, so I don't remember much. It was a nice place, though. Never been to the Azores, but I heard they're beautiful islands.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:08
Citação de: pcssousa em 17 de Abril de 2014, 13:46
Citação de: kneissl em 17 de Abril de 2014, 12:15
Porto team sucks a lot, they don't have any creative mids, the full backs except for Mangala are horrible , the only player that creates some danger is Quaresma.. i dunno how they managed to win against Napoli.
Juventus is another level.
Of Juve is another level... You're right, we don't have a chance.
Jokes aside, I repeat: There is a real and concrete possibility that we shitting in our pants in your stadium.
if we lose our head, we really run the risk of going out of Portugal with a basket full of goals.
That said, I think it will be a semifinal worthy of a champion league semi-final.
and, seriously, who passes this round, then won the Cup.
allowing fate (given the past of the two teams). :cry2: :disgust:
Shitting in pants is not that bad
Juventino, i'm from tourism, so i would recomend you Lisbon all the way. The city has won many prizes in the last couple of years, since it's one of the most beautiful cities in the world. Even CNN, has praised Lisbon as the "coolest city in the World". ^-^
But really, our country is beautiful, from north to south, to the islands. Azores is breathtaking. Even more than Madeira, in my opinion.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--Pa3siLre7o/Tut0eOY7vrI/AAAAAAAABko/JTjOYzqzKgI/s1600/acoresfoto.jpg)
This is Azores
I'm from the North but for a traditional 3/4 days visit I would recommend Lisbon and quick getaways to nearby towns, Sintra being of course the priority.
For longer or less urban stays, there are a lot of possibilities. :)
so if I understand correctly:
Lisbon first of all ... then the rest.
is that correct?
It really depends on what you want. For the most traditional short/urban holidays yes.
UEFA released a report today that showed which clubs have more fans inside their country.
Benfica is first with 47% of portuguese people being Benfica fans. Second is Steaua and third is Galatasaray.
Juventus should be about 5th (which is really impressive given the dimension of your country) with 31%.
Until now only portuguese newspapers reported this but there should be an UEFA link soon.
http://www.record.xl.pt/Futebol/Nacional/1a_liga/Benfica/interior.aspx?content_id=878483
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 17 de Abril de 2014, 15:08
Citação de: pcssousa em 17 de Abril de 2014, 13:46
Citação de: kneissl em 17 de Abril de 2014, 12:15
Porto team sucks a lot, they don't have any creative mids, the full backs except for Mangala are horrible , the only player that creates some danger is Quaresma.. i dunno how they managed to win against Napoli.
Juventus is another level.
Of Juve is another level... You're right, we don't have a chance.
Jokes aside, I repeat: There is a real and concrete possibility that we shitting in our pants in your stadium.
if we lose our head, we really run the risk of going out of Portugal with a basket full of goals.
That said, I think it will be a semifinal worthy of a champion league semi-final.
and, seriously, who passes this round, then won the Cup.
allowing fate (given the past of the two teams). :cry2: :disgust:
I don't think so, I don't see Juventus shitting on underwear.
Jokes apart, if never strange happens, it will be hard for both teams.
Whoever passes will win the cup.
Obviously, Lisbon is at the top of the list. It's our capital city, it has lots of history and a vibrant social life.
However, the island of Madeira is justly called "the Pearl of the Atlantic." If you can visit it, Juventino, do so.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t31.0-8/1548185_448563858602829_1215865567_o.jpg)
Citação de: Fever em 17 de Abril de 2014, 18:24
It really depends on what you want. For the most traditional short/urban holidays yes.
UEFA released a report today that showed which clubs have more fans inside their country.
Benfica is first with 47% of portuguese people being Benfica fans. Second is Steaua and third is Galatasaray.
Juventus should be about 5th (which is really impressive given the dimension of your country) with 31%.
Until now only portuguese newspapers reported this but there should be an UEFA link soon.
http://www.record.xl.pt/Futebol/Nacional/1a_liga/Benfica/interior.aspx?content_id=878483
blasphemy
What?
Rude awakening this morning .
It seems that between Antonio Conte and Juventus there are no agreements for the renewal of the contract.
While Juventus is pressing Conte for renewal, the rush for Conte, does not exist.
Conte would like to sit at the negotiating table with mathematically won the Scudetto and maybe postpone the meeting after an eventual victory in Europe.
Thus, the Juve coach would have more bargaining power and may require additional reinforcement .
Conte, seems to have many doubts about the future performance of the italian players committed itself with the world cup .
Many of them are "old " and physically destroyed as might come from Brazil.
On Conte it would be affecting the PSG .
The PSG is not happy with the current coach and would like a coach, as Conte , so that he can gain respect in a locker room chock full of football stars .
conte like this solution , because the PSG team there are in 10/11 players who speak Italian .
Juve meanwhile tip heavily on Klopp who is about to conclude his experience with Borussida Dortmund.
Noooooo .... I want a lifetime as Juventus coach Antonio Conte. :cry2:
Everyone wants Klopp, it seems. First Barça, now Juve.
Even if Conte ends up leaving you, I'm sure you'll be fine in the long term. Nothing lasts forever. Guys like Buffon and Pirlo will have to retire someday as well.
Citação de: Festivus em 18 de Abril de 2014, 08:23
Everyone wants Klopp, it seems. First Barça, now Juve.
Even if Conte ends up leaving you, I'm sure you'll be fine in the long term. Nothing lasts forever. Guys like Buffon and Pirlo will have to retire someday as well.
Of course, nothing lasts forever.
But, now losing a coach who was able with little means to win two (three) championships would be crazy.
I do not think the barcellona can take Klopp ... the Spanish team should change play mode than in the past
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 18 de Abril de 2014, 08:27
Citação de: Festivus em 18 de Abril de 2014, 08:23
Everyone wants Klopp, it seems. First Barça, now Juve.
Even if Conte ends up leaving you, I'm sure you'll be fine in the long term. Nothing lasts forever. Guys like Buffon and Pirlo will have to retire someday as well.
Of course, nothing lasts forever.
But, now losing a coach who was able with little means to win two (three) championships would be crazy.
I do not think the boat can take Klopp ... the Spanish team should change play mode than in the past
Yea, Conte has been doing a good job at Juventus.
I'd like to see Klopp at a team other than Dortmund. I think he'd do well in Juventus and Serie A. Plus, he's pretty energetic like Conte, so I bet Juve fans and the media there would love him.
Klopp would be a fantastic signing for pretty much any major club right now.
Yes, he's that good.
Citação de: Gottschalk em 18 de Abril de 2014, 09:09
Klopp would be a fantastic signing for pretty much any major club right now.
Yes, he's that good.
I'd personally like to see him managing Arsenal.. or Benfica. But it's unlikely he'd come here in the near future.
Citação de: Fever em 18 de Abril de 2014, 04:43
What?
Galatasaray does not have that % of fans in turkey.
... Again?
Every poll in Turkey puts both Galatasaray and Fenerbahçe between 30% and 45%.
The latest one gave them even more than that: 42%.
http://www.sabah.com.tr/Spor/Futbol/2012/06/13/turkiyede-en-cok-taraftara-sahip-takim-hangisi#
Happy Easter to everyone, friends of benfica.
(http://www.torange.us/photo/8/13/Easter-egg-1300799388_19.jpg)
Sintra (Lisbon): the mountain of the moon (Monte da Lua) and the romantic capital :)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7b/Castelo_dos_mouros_1920_1200.jpg)
(http://www.fotoviajero.com/image/palacio-nacional-da-pena-sintra-portugal_858_big.jpg)
(http://www.sintrapalace.com/wp-content/gallery/quinta-da-regaleira/quinta-da-regaleira-1340098166.jpg)
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 19 de Abril de 2014, 07:50
Happy Easter to everyone, friends of benfica.
(http://www.torange.us/photo/8/13/Easter-egg-1300799388_19.jpg)
Same to you. Thank you very much.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 19 de Abril de 2014, 07:50
Happy Easter to everyone, friends of benfica.
(http://www.torange.us/photo/8/13/Easter-egg-1300799388_19.jpg)
Thanks. Happy Easter to you as well.
Happy Easter, Juventino. :)
you choose a wrong picture juventino. Must be:
Happy Easter
(http://encarnado88.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/festa-benfica_marques_de_pobal_2010_aposta-x.jpg)
hi Portugal champions :)
Citação de: the mentalist em 20 de Abril de 2014, 20:52
hi Portugal champions :)
Thanks a lot.
Now it's party time!
Citação de: the mentalist em 20 de Abril de 2014, 20:52
hi Portugal champions :)
How many points does Juventus have left to become italian champions?
Citação de: Festivus em 20 de Abril de 2014, 21:14
Citação de: the mentalist em 20 de Abril de 2014, 20:52
hi Portugal champions :)
How many points does Juventus have left to become italian champions?
if roma still will win , we have to win others 2 matchs
Citação de: the mentalist em 20 de Abril de 2014, 21:46
Citação de: Festivus em 20 de Abril de 2014, 21:14
Citação de: the mentalist em 20 de Abril de 2014, 20:52
hi Portugal champions :)
How many points does Juventus have left to become italian champions?
if roma still will win , we have to win others 2 matchs
You bet, today and on May, 14. Then on May, 18.
Good news for you. Salvio broke his arm today and will go on surgery tomorrow. Won't play against you guys.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BlsWHCSCYAAZDVS.png)
Citação de: the mentalist em 20 de Abril de 2014, 21:46
Citação de: Festivus em 20 de Abril de 2014, 21:14
Citação de: the mentalist em 20 de Abril de 2014, 20:52
hi Portugal champions :)
How many points does Juventus have left to become italian champions?
if roma still will win , we have to win others 2 matchs
Juventus will win Serie A.
JUVENTINO, i'm sorry for you, but we'll win AND I'LL BE THERE CHANTING FOR BENFICAAAAAAAAAAAAA, THE LOVE OF MY LIFE
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Abril de 2014, 16:15
The Germans were exceptionally cruel to the Greek civilians and 300,000 Greeks starved to death in one year under the occupation. The germans also burned monasteries and massacred various villages..
The Italians were there for fun. They didn't believe in the war and when they tried to invade Greece just before the Germans, they were easily beaten by the Greeks. The Italians who took most the islands thanks to the germans..were shocked at how similar Greek culture was to their own.. wine, music, olive oil... no one was bothered by the Italians.. to give an example.. after the war.. any woman who had slept with a german soldier under the occupation was usually murdered in the town square and left to rot.. however I am sure many Greek girls slept with Italians and no one cared..
Going further back the ventetians who ruled many Greek islands were very cruel also and Greeks were treated like animals by the venetians.. Turks, Jews and Genoese were all placed above Greeks by the Venetians..even though the majority of each island was almost 98% Greek.. however that did more damage to religion than personality...meaning.. Greeks have bad memories of catholics from the crusades up until the venetians..because of this bad treatment, greeks often returned the favour and would not even bother to give a funeral or a grave to anyone who died who was assumed to be a catholic.. but that stuff all ended before the first world war.
Great post Faliro, thanks for the insight.
I recently read a book about the Waffen SS and effectively says there, that Greece was easily defended against the Italians and that their attacks were repelled effortlessly. When the Germans got in it was harsher but they too had a tough time going through Hellenic defenses (with a little help from a small pack of English fellas), especially at the mountains I think.
Personally, I always thought Italian and Greek culture to be quite similar (now even more after having been in both countries). Didn't know about the Venetian treatment to Greeks though.
Anyways, I think both Italians and Greeks are fine people, each in its own way, even though I haven't travelled to the countryside and small villages, like some of you here had, so I wouldn't say I know both cultures on a deep level. However I'm highly interested in that, hope some day I'll have the time to do that.
About Benfica, hope to beat La Vecchia Signora on both games! ^-^
The only semi-final we played against each other till today:
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DYvCcS3Zh30/UUozmzkEpmI/AAAAAAAAGtM/nw7tUkMMT7g/s1600/benfica+juve+68.jpg)
Hope we can repeat the result.
what happened to gaitan?
Citação de: the mentalist em 22 de Abril de 2014, 10:35
what happened to gaitan?
we don't know. maybe he drank too much :p
In the next 2 days he will be evaluated.
Citação de: CitriC em 22 de Abril de 2014, 11:27
Citação de: the mentalist em 22 de Abril de 2014, 10:35
what happened to gaitan?
we don't know. maybe he drank too much :p
In the next 2 days he will be evaluated.
Nope. He's fine.
but in other topic people talking about he is out for Thursday
Citação de: the mentalist em 22 de Abril de 2014, 12:06
but in other topic people talking about he is out for Thursday
Sure... Someone had to sell newspapers and made it up, I guess.
But let's just wait and see.
Unless he hurted himself playing with is wife he is fine.
I'll be there :metal:
Any of the Juventus fellows know where I can find Eusébio's goal in the Communale?
I browsed through the story of Juventus (a great set of DVDs by the way) and it wasn't there. It was one of the most brilliant goals ever by Eusébio and a fantastic reaction from the Juve fans even if eliminated at the end.
It was a free kick close to midfield. Eusébio prepared himself to shoot it directly and the stadium started to laugh as it looked like a move without any possibility of success. When Eusébio beat it, he made a goal from 45-50 meters and the stadium clashed in a huge applause. A great moment by a great Man!
When Benfica went to Dellalpi back in 1993, a journalist went to visit the Communale and a man that worked there understanding he was a portuguese journalist, asked him: "Do you want to see from where Eusebio scored the free kick?" Il rete de Eusébio!
Flirting with gays?
Sure, it might sound wrong at the beggining. But it sure lifts up your ego!
Experience:
Adult Live Chats when I was a teen
Juve fans, Benfica is weak, you can leave Pirlo out. you don't need him.
In fact i'm sure you are already in the finals, just put your bench in the pitch and save the best for the Serie A
Citação de: CitriC em 22 de Abril de 2014, 23:48
Juve fans, Benfica is weak, you can leave Pirlo out. you don't need him.
In fact i'm sure you are already in the finals, just put your bench in the pitch and save the best for the Serie A
Juventus is soo weak , we have to pray platini for help us : (
Citação de: the mentalist em 23 de Abril de 2014, 10:07
Citação de: CitriC em 22 de Abril de 2014, 23:48
Juve fans, Benfica is weak, you can leave Pirlo out. you don't need him.
In fact i'm sure you are already in the finals, just put your bench in the pitch and save the best for the Serie A
Juventus is soo weak , we have to pray platini for help us : (
You're Italian champions and Portuguese football is quite weak and poor. You're, by far, one of the best teams in the world so we don't have a chance.
I think we should save our best player for the League Cup against porto on Sunday cause this game is already lost.
Congratulations.
Fejsa is out.
Nico Gaitan is fully recovered.
Citação de: the mentalist em 23 de Abril de 2014, 10:07
Citação de: CitriC em 22 de Abril de 2014, 23:48
Juve fans, Benfica is weak, you can leave Pirlo out. you don't need him.
In fact i'm sure you are already in the finals, just put your bench in the pitch and save the best for the Serie A
Juventus is soo weak , we have to pray platini for help us : (
I know :D
http://www.italianfootballdaily.com/platini/#.U1e-UPmSyno
All of our best players are injured.
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:11
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
Sousa,
Um Benfiquista em Turim tem um clube. Torino.
Esse é o principal clube da cidade de Turim e que a nós Benfiquistas nos diz muito.
True.
Maybe, but Juventus is like Benfica in Italy and about the corruption in Italian football Berlusconi and AC Milan were the biggest by far with small punishments...
Really sorry Rui Costa but its the real truth.
Citação de: pcssousa em 23 de Abril de 2014, 15:44
All of our best players are injured.
vidal is injured
Citação de: the mentalist em 23 de Abril de 2014, 16:34
Citação de: pcssousa em 23 de Abril de 2014, 15:44
All of our best players are injured.
vidal is injured
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you have the following midfielders:
Isla, Pogba, Marchisio, Padoin, Pirlo, Asamoah, Pepe and Vidal
So it's not going to be a problem if he's really injured, but I guess you're bluffing, since he traveled to Lisboa.
Fejsa is injured, which is terrible for us. I guess Manel will have to play... God damn this.
Citação de: IPASLB em 23 de Abril de 2014, 16:29
Citação de: pcssousa em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:11
Citação de: nogueira em 14 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
Sousa,
Um Benfiquista em Turim tem um clube. Torino.
Esse é o principal clube da cidade de Turim e que a nós Benfiquistas nos diz muito.
True.
Maybe, but Juventus is like Benfica in Italy and about the corruption in Italian football Berlusconi and AC Milan were the biggest by far with small punishments...
Really sorry Rui Costa but its the real truth.
Well when in the last 15 years Milan has only 2 Scudetto, I wouldn't say they were the biggest by far.
The truth is that a lot of teams should've drop to the 2 division, but Juventus was the one profiting the most with the corruption schema.
I keep saying all the time Italians should learn with the Portugueses. Here they just take points of some corrupted games sponsored by FC Porto, and next year they start from 0. They can even keep the championship title, because the points taken from the corrupted games weren't enough for the 2nd place to win the championship. That's how the porto mafia rolls !
Gaitán won't play after all.
Without Gaitán and Salvio our odds drop quite a bit.
Please leave the corruption talk out of the topic.
It never leads to something good.
Gaitán is a HUGE loss for us. He's been our most important player by far recently.
Citação de: pcssousa em 23 de Abril de 2014, 16:44
Citação de: the mentalist em 23 de Abril de 2014, 16:34
Citação de: pcssousa em 23 de Abril de 2014, 15:44
All of our best players are injured.
vidal is injured
Correct me if I'm wrong, but you have the following midfielders:
Isla, Pogba, Marchisio, Padoin, Pirlo, Asamoah, Pepe and Vidal
So it's not going to be a problem if he's really injured, but I guess you're bluffing, since he traveled to Lisboa.
Fejsa is injured, which is terrible for us. I guess Manel will have to play... God damn this.
only marchisio,vidal,pogba,pirlo play in the middle , and vidal dont will play .
tomorrow should play like this
buffon
barzagli - bonucci-chiellini
pirlo
lichtsteiner -pogba---marchisio -- asamoah
tevez-- llorente
Seriously, Fejsa, Gaitan, Salvio and Silvio are injured.
Fejsa has been our defensive midfielder since Matic went to Chelsea and Gaitan has been our key player this season. Salvio would be a great substitute but broke his arm.
It's going to be very, very hard for us, and I'm being completely honest.
our best team:
oblak
silvio
luisão
garay
siqueira
fejsa
enzo
salvio
gaitan
rodrigo
lima
our team tomorrow:
artur
maxi
luisão
garay
siqueira
amorim/a.gomes
enzo
markovic
sulejmani
rodrigo
lima
so, 5 players out, 4 injured and 1 because jorge jesus is kind of a dumbass sometimes.
i'll be a little bit surprised if we beat you.
How should I say "estão a passar-lhes a mão no pêlo" in english? ;D
hello guys,
how are your asses? ;D
Just kidding! :)
Hopefully it will be a nice evening of football ... and may the best win (I hope juve). :)
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 24 de Abril de 2014, 07:58
hello guys,
how are your asses? ;D
Just kidding! :)
Hopefully it will be a nice evening of football ... and may the best win (I hope juve). :)
"Renda-se, você está cercado"
Are you brazillian?
This will be a very tactical game. Juventus will try to take the decision home.
Benfica will have to be cautious and not attack in a crazy way, not to leave open spaces to Pirlo start counter-attack.
I think the italian fans believe that if they don't take goals in Lisboa, they will be in the final.
If Benfica can score an early goal, (in the first half) I think it would give an extra-confidence, and who knows what can happen after. The most important thing, for both teams is not to suffer goals of course.
Let's see if the italian defense can resist a team that has been scoring in every match for the last 63 matches at home.
Juve is a great team, i just hope he don't conced any home goals.... and that Artur does not go for play latter
Juve would always play in a very defensive way in our Stadium, regardless of the players we have. It's a shame we have some key players injured, but we have to play with what we have.
I believe our team will be capable of getting a good result. A 1-0 win would be terrific.
Citação de: CitriC em 24 de Abril de 2014, 11:26
This will be a very tactical game. Juventus will try to take the decision home.
Benfica will have to be cautious and not attack in a crazy way, not to leave open spaces to Pirlo start counter-attack.
I think the italian fans believe that if they don't take goals in Lisboa, they will be in the final.
If Benfica can score an early goal, (in the first half) I think it would give an extra-confidence, and who knows what can happen after. The most important thing, for both teams is not to suffer goals of course.
Let's see if the italian defense can resist a team that has been scoring in every match for the last 63 matches at home.
a draw with goals is perfect
Citação de: the mentalist em 24 de Abril de 2014, 13:04
Citação de: CitriC em 24 de Abril de 2014, 11:26
This will be a very tactical game. Juventus will try to take the decision home.
Benfica will have to be cautious and not attack in a crazy way, not to leave open spaces to Pirlo start counter-attack.
I think the italian fans believe that if they don't take goals in Lisboa, they will be in the final.
If Benfica can score an early goal, (in the first half) I think it would give an extra-confidence, and who knows what can happen after. The most important thing, for both teams is not to suffer goals of course.
Let's see if the italian defense can resist a team that has been scoring in every match for the last 63 matches at home.
a draw with goals is perfect
i know. for you is honey :p
are there a lot of juve fans coming to Lisboa ?
Citação de: CitriC em 24 de Abril de 2014, 13:42
Citação de: the mentalist em 24 de Abril de 2014, 13:04
Citação de: CitriC em 24 de Abril de 2014, 11:26
This will be a very tactical game. Juventus will try to take the decision home.
Benfica will have to be cautious and not attack in a crazy way, not to leave open spaces to Pirlo start counter-attack.
I think the italian fans believe that if they don't take goals in Lisboa, they will be in the final.
If Benfica can score an early goal, (in the first half) I think it would give an extra-confidence, and who knows what can happen after. The most important thing, for both teams is not to suffer goals of course.
Let's see if the italian defense can resist a team that has been scoring in every match for the last 63 matches at home.
a draw with goals is perfect
i know. for you is honey :p
are there a lot of juve fans coming to Lisboa ?
journal said 500
I was expecting more. last year thousands of turkish fans from fenerbahçe came to watch the semi final. There weren't enough places for everyone so they bought tickets for the general public. Even our forum and facebook was invaded by turkish lol
http://www.tuttojuve.com/primo-piano/esclusiva-tj-giuseppe-galderisi-stasera-gara-spettacolare-juventus-e-benfica-sono-due-squadre-che-propongono-un-grande-gioco-186625
Citação de: Jotenko em 24 de Abril de 2014, 11:08
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 24 de Abril de 2014, 07:58
hello guys,
how are your asses? ;D
Just kidding! :)
Hopefully it will be a nice evening of football ... and may the best win (I hope juve). :)
"Renda-se, você está cercado"
Are you brazillian?
why should I be Brazilian? :confused:
Citação de: diogo32 em 23 de Abril de 2014, 23:01
our best team:
oblak
silvio
luisão
garay
siqueira
fejsa
enzo
salvio
gaitan
rodrigo
lima
our team tomorrow:
artur
maxi
luisão
garay
siqueira
amorim/a.gomes
enzo
markovic
sulejmani
rodrigo
lima
so, 5 players out, 4 injured and 1 because jorge jesus is kind of a dumbass sometimes.
i'll be a little bit surprised if we beat you.
Wy Artur???
OMG i REALLY hope you ( Jorge Jesus) are right!!!
I really hope to see some sad faces returning home tonight
Some sad italian faces
vai ficare jinco a jero, vames arrenbentar-lhes as nalegas todas. :)
translation:
It's going to be a tough match, but I believe we're going to win. :)
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 24 de Abril de 2014, 14:17
Citação de: Jotenko em 24 de Abril de 2014, 11:08
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 24 de Abril de 2014, 07:58
hello guys,
how are your asses? ;D
Just kidding! :)
Hopefully it will be a nice evening of football ... and may the best win (I hope juve). :)
"Renda-se, você está cercado"
Are you brazillian?
why should I be Brazilian? :confused:
You should! They usually wear thongs or speedos and that is very sexy indeed.
They also use to shave their bottoms...
Good victory of ours today, but this is far from being over.
Really impressed by your quality in possession. Much due to such an overpopulated midfield at the expenses of the attack of course, but still very comfortable with the ball. Not many teams come to Estádio da Luz playing like that.
Everything yet to decide. Juventus with ball, Benfica on the counter. That will be the 2nd leg dynamic.
Lots of refball in this game.
I seriously hope we have Gaitan, Fejsa and Oblak playing next match.
We couldn't have given this away goal.
Let's hope for the best in Turin.
It was a good game, between two fine teams.
My thoughts:
-Benfica played well only in the first 20 minutes and in the last 10. Between those two periods, Juventus controlled the game and could have scored on some occasions. Can't really figure why Benfica dropped the intensity of those first 20 minutes. Our team only rose again with the entry of I. Cavaleiro, given that A. Gomes was doing such a poor game and should have been substitued on the break. Shame Markovic couldn't score almost at the end of the game, as it would have given us a better margin to manage at Torino. The choices of Artur and Cardozo for this game are arguable, as they reflect the result on the scoreboard, given their interventions on the goals conceeded and scored (Artur should have done much better and Cardozo... well Lima, showed why he was a better option for this game)
-The referee had one of the worst performances of the year, with lots of wrong calls and judgements. The unmarked penalty strikes me as one of the worst decisions, could have changed the tide of the game completely though.
-Your midfielders are top class and I'm guessing Benfica is going to have a hard time at your home, definitely. In my opinion, the game is really far from being decided and anything can happen on the second game. If we manage to hold the score until the break, we might have a great chance of going along, as I do believe that even if you score in the second half, we might as well do the same.
Saw the game. Really didn't like your two centre backs again - they seem fragile in the 3 games I saw from your team this season. Also still don't like Cardozo. With better cbs and someone else other than Cardozo I think you could have got a better result. Juve seem slight favorites now.
Faliro, our two centre backs had a great game. Actually, they're having one of their best seasons, I think. Can't really see what did you see resembling "fragile" in their performances.
Cardozo is not at his best shape. And this was definitely not the game for him to shine.
Today's game proves that if Benfica had all the players fisically at 100%, we could've made a way better result. We have Gaitán, Salvio, Fejsa and Silvio injured, when they had only Vidal out. We better hope Gaitán and Fejsa recover for the second leg, in order for a better chance to go to the final.
It's going to be very hard, Juventus is strong, but we have our chances.
Next game we will have more options, I hope, but the options and the tactics are two different things, Today, tactically we were very sound (good). Talvez goal had good defending that 99% of the time would of denied it.
Congratulations on the ref, Platini!
Citação de: Dandy em 24 de Abril de 2014, 23:30
Congratulations on the ref, Platini!
The referee was the star of the game and clearly Juve's key player. Just as I expected.
wood stick in referee's ass
Turkish bastard...
The ref didn't signal a clear penalty in our favour in the second half. That was clearly a foul by Cáceres.
He was also a bit permissive here and there, with some rough play by Juve going unpunished. His linesmen didn't have the best of games. Nevertheless, and looking at the whole game, I don't think they were clearly premeditated errors. It was an average refereeing.
PUTA QUE PARIU O TURCO!
we have to grow a lot
Citação de: Gottschalk em 25 de Abril de 2014, 00:59
The ref didn't signal a clear penalty in our favour in the second half. That was clearly a foul by Cáceres.
He was also a bit permissive here and there, with some rough play by Juve going unpunished. His linesmen didn't have the best of games. Nevertheless, and looking at the whole game, I don't think they were clearly premeditated errors. It was an average refereeing.
clear penalty? lol caceres dont move a single muscles
Citação de: the mentalist em 25 de Abril de 2014, 08:00
Citação de: Gottschalk em 25 de Abril de 2014, 00:59
The ref didn't signal a clear penalty in our favour in the second half. That was clearly a foul by Cáceres.
He was also a bit permissive here and there, with some rough play by Juve going unpunished. His linesmen didn't have the best of games. Nevertheless, and looking at the whole game, I don't think they were clearly premeditated errors. It was an average refereeing.
clear penalty? lol caceres dont move a single muscles
Of course he did.
There's one thing that Cáceres didn't do, though: play the ball. He did play Enzo Pérez's body.
the away goal keeps juventus in the game. if it would be 2-0 it would be totally different. I don't see Juventus scoring 3-0 in turim, but 2-1 is too dangerous.
anyway congrats for the great match, you played really good. there aren't a lot of teams doing what juventus did in Estádio da Luz. Pogba played really good, a bit too agressive, but that's how you win games. Thank god Pirlo didn't score :)
If we want to go to the finals we have to do better than yesterday, if we play like today we will lose, because you are in great shape. I just hope that the injured players will be recovered for the 2nd leg, and that Juve loses points in Serie A to create nervousness :p but yea against Sassuolo I'm sure you will win
Chiellini or Caceres and Bonucci were the worst in Juve, Cardozo and Andre Gomes or maybe Maxi just because of the goal the worst for us
- Postive thing for Juve you just need 1-0 to go to the final and that's easy to do.
- Positive thing for Benfica it's the first time Juve needs to play attack to revert the "round", and Juve is not used to it, so we have a chance to play counter and surprise
ps: I bet that the game will be decided in the last 10min. both times will have to sweat blood to pass
Citação de: Gottschalk em 25 de Abril de 2014, 09:22
Citação de: the mentalist em 25 de Abril de 2014, 08:00
Citação de: Gottschalk em 25 de Abril de 2014, 00:59
The ref didn't signal a clear penalty in our favour in the second half. That was clearly a foul by Cáceres.
He was also a bit permissive here and there, with some rough play by Juve going unpunished. His linesmen didn't have the best of games. Nevertheless, and looking at the whole game, I don't think they were clearly premeditated errors. It was an average refereeing.
clear penalty? lol caceres dont move a single muscles
Of course he did.
There's one thing that Cáceres didn't do, though: play the ball. He did play Enzo Pérez's body.
is your player go to caceres , he cant disappear .
Citação de: the mentalist em 25 de Abril de 2014, 09:36
Citação de: Gottschalk em 25 de Abril de 2014, 09:22
Citação de: the mentalist em 25 de Abril de 2014, 08:00
Citação de: Gottschalk em 25 de Abril de 2014, 00:59
The ref didn't signal a clear penalty in our favour in the second half. That was clearly a foul by Cáceres.
He was also a bit permissive here and there, with some rough play by Juve going unpunished. His linesmen didn't have the best of games. Nevertheless, and looking at the whole game, I don't think they were clearly premeditated errors. It was an average refereeing.
clear penalty? lol caceres dont move a single muscles
Of course he did.
There's one thing that Cáceres didn't do, though: play the ball. He did play Enzo Pérez's body.
is your player go to caceres , he cant disappear .
Review the play again.
Cáceres goes out of his way and moves his hip to block Pérez. Clear foul.
Citação de: Gottschalk em 25 de Abril de 2014, 09:52
Citação de: the mentalist em 25 de Abril de 2014, 09:36
Citação de: Gottschalk em 25 de Abril de 2014, 09:22
Citação de: the mentalist em 25 de Abril de 2014, 08:00
Citação de: Gottschalk em 25 de Abril de 2014, 00:59
The ref didn't signal a clear penalty in our favour in the second half. That was clearly a foul by Cáceres.
He was also a bit permissive here and there, with some rough play by Juve going unpunished. His linesmen didn't have the best of games. Nevertheless, and looking at the whole game, I don't think they were clearly premeditated errors. It was an average refereeing.
clear penalty? lol caceres dont move a single muscles
Of course he did.
There's one thing that Cáceres didn't do, though: play the ball. He did play Enzo Pérez's body.
is your player go to caceres , he cant disappear .
Review the play again.
Cáceres goes out of his way and moves his hip to block Pérez. Clear foul.
He was offering his anus to Enzo, nothing more.
A Juventus será sempre um clube corrupto.
Ontem foi mais uma demonstração disso. São uns merdas.
These penalties are given very rarely against big sides.
If Juventus were playing Olympiakos - I am sure there would have been red cards and penalties against Oympiakos from the same ref.
Problem is Juventus are a big club, many neutrals want them to succeed and it shows.
For me, the penalty claim was weak anyway. Technically a penalty, but you rarely see them given.
the penalty was clear, but for me that wasn't even the worst. every contact of our players was foul, but the italian players could do almost anything. even with the free throws that fuckin kebab did a lot of mistakes, always to the same side...prety obvious.
anyway, Juve has shown us that won't be easy to reach to last game. we did'n played our best game, but that's normal once we have some key players and some players seem tired from the party last sunday/monday.
What strikes me the most, is the fact that a club proved to be corrupt various times in the past(not to speak about doping), is so protected and so well regarded in Europe. Not only that, but the lack of respect of certain referees for Benfica, a club that belongs in the top 10 all-time(nº8 in that ranking) of european clubs of the 20th Century. It's sickening and not acceptable.
When Juventus won they're first European Cup, Benfica already had 2, and 5 finals played. The only advantage Juve has(and all the other top sides from the best european leagues), is the fact that they have way more money to spend in players, nothing more.
I'm still optimist for the second leg, but i wouldn't be surprised if we're eliminated. Juventus is strong sure, but in case of doubt, the referees will always decide against us, simply because the final will be played in Torino.
I would say, if you believe in conspiracies..
Juventus are clear favorites, from the refs up to the uefa board.
On the pitch it is a different matter.
Citação de: the mentalist em 25 de Abril de 2014, 09:36
Citação de: Gottschalk em 25 de Abril de 2014, 09:22
Citação de: the mentalist em 25 de Abril de 2014, 08:00
Citação de: Gottschalk em 25 de Abril de 2014, 00:59
The ref didn't signal a clear penalty in our favour in the second half. That was clearly a foul by Cáceres.
He was also a bit permissive here and there, with some rough play by Juve going unpunished. His linesmen didn't have the best of games. Nevertheless, and looking at the whole game, I don't think they were clearly premeditated errors. It was an average refereeing.
clear penalty? lol caceres dont move a single muscles
Of course he did.
There's one thing that Cáceres didn't do, though: play the ball. He did play Enzo Pérez's body.
is your player go to caceres , he cant disappear .
Sei que falas português, portanto digo-te como se diz em português o que o Caceres fez: Obstrução.
Penalty claríssimo, quem diz o contrário ou não sabe nada de futebol ou é mentiroso.
Congratulations on the ref, Michel.
Job well done!
Citação de: Faliro em 25 de Abril de 2014, 12:34
These penalties are given very rarely against big sides.
If Juventus were playing Olympiakos - I am sure there would have been red cards and penalties against Oympiakos from the same ref.
Problem is Juventus are a big club, many neutrals want them to succeed and it shows.
For me, the penalty claim was weak anyway. Technically a penalty, but you rarely see them given.
A penalty is a penalty, and that one was clear. And the ref saw it, that is also clear.
Players don't have to claim or beg for penalties. If they do, the referee has to show a yellow card, isn't that so?
HELLO GUYS.
That said, yesterday's game does not have anything to envy to those of champion league.
Two teams (juventus and benfica) that could easily play for the semi-finals.
Benfica impressive in the first 15 minutes and the last 10.
In the middle of the game, a very good juve. held the field and worried the benfica.
Your coach is very good: he understood the need to change when there was a chance of a second goal of the juve.
The inclusion of Lima, in addition to scoring, gave confidence to benfica again who went close to scoring in the 3-1.
The alleged foul caceres? If the referee gave the penalty was not wrong, but (in my opinion) he has not missed even by not giving the penalty.
Ultimately (again, IMHO) 1-1 or 2-1 would change little.
Juve, in return, should make the game and try to win.
2-1 is quite different from 1-1 when you play against a team that score in almost all away games...and when your team concedes goals in almost all home games...
Cheers for the fair-play, JUVENTINO.
Benfica will have the most difficult game of the season in your ground, that's for sure. We're aware that your team can turn around this narrow win. With Vidal and Gaitán back, it should be even more entertaining for the neutrals.
I see you have a Serie A match between these two games against Benfica. Do you believe Conte will rest some players?
Citação de: pcssousa em 25 de Abril de 2014, 15:24
2-1 is quite different from 1-1 when you play against a team that score in almost all away games...and when your team concedes goals in almost all home games...
An early goal for us in Turin would certainly help a lot.
Citação de: Festivus em 25 de Abril de 2014, 15:37
Citação de: pcssousa em 25 de Abril de 2014, 15:24
2-1 is quite different from 1-1 when you play against a team that score in almost all away games...and when your team concedes goals in almost all home games...
An early goal for us in Turin would certainly help a lot.
Sure. But early or late we have to score.
In Europe I believe only Trabzonspor didn't score there. And if we score, it will be very difficult for Juventus to eliminate us.
Citação de: nogueira em 25 de Abril de 2014, 12:20
A Juventus será sempre um clube corrupto.
Ontem foi mais uma demonstração disso. São uns merdas.
FCP a preto e branco.
A verdadeira grande equipa de Turim é em tons grená.
Viva o grande Torino!
Citação de: Darkboy em 25 de Abril de 2014, 15:35
Cheers for the fair-play, JUVENTINO.
Benfica will have the most difficult game of the season in your ground, that's for sure. We're aware that your team can turn around this narrow win. With Vidal and Gaitán back, it should be even more entertaining for the neutrals.
I see you have a Serie A match between these two games against Benfica. Do you believe Conte will rest some players?
I hope and believe, that if Rome does not win against Milan, MR. put in place a team capable of winning with the sassuolo. because it would be mathematically won the championship.
In this way, the juve would be free mentally and to better prepare the semi-final return.
Citação de: Dandy em 25 de Abril de 2014, 15:04
Congratulations on the ref, Michel.
Job well done!
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Hi Juventino.
Clearly. Our game was better than both CL semi-finals.
The Turin match will be completely different though, I fear for the first minutes of that game. Hope we can hold you off.
Do you think Juventus will field all the starters this weekend to clinch the title? How much is the focus on Benfica?
For example some of our pundits slammed Benfica management for allowing players to go celebrate in the streets with fans last weekend, how do you think Juve approach will be if you win?
Citação de: pcssousa em 25 de Abril de 2014, 15:15
Citação de: Faliro em 25 de Abril de 2014, 12:34
These penalties are given very rarely against big sides.
If Juventus were playing Olympiakos - I am sure there would have been red cards and penalties against Oympiakos from the same ref.
Problem is Juventus are a big club, many neutrals want them to succeed and it shows.
For me, the penalty claim was weak anyway. Technically a penalty, but you rarely see them given.
A penalty is a penalty, and that one was clear. And the ref saw it, that is also clear.
Players don't have to claim or beg for penalties. If they do, the referee has to show a yellow card, isn't that so?
No I don't think so, there is no yellows for penalty appeals unless they are extreme. But any extreme behavior could give a yellow.
Also, there are penalties that are given easily and those that are not. For example a blatant trip usually ends up as a penalty far more often than a defender throwing an opposition player to the ground during a corner.
The type of penalty you were after is rarely given, especially against big teams.
Citação de: Faliro em 25 de Abril de 2014, 16:59
Citação de: pcssousa em 25 de Abril de 2014, 15:15
Citação de: Faliro em 25 de Abril de 2014, 12:34
These penalties are given very rarely against big sides.
If Juventus were playing Olympiakos - I am sure there would have been red cards and penalties against Oympiakos from the same ref.
Problem is Juventus are a big club, many neutrals want them to succeed and it shows.
For me, the penalty claim was weak anyway. Technically a penalty, but you rarely see them given.
A penalty is a penalty, and that one was clear. And the ref saw it, that is also clear.
Players don't have to claim or beg for penalties. If they do, the referee has to show a yellow card, isn't that so?
No I don't think so, there is no yellows for penalty appeals unless they are extreme. But any extreme behavior could give a yellow.
Also, there are penalties that are given easily and those that are not. For example a blatant trip usually ends up as a penalty far more often than a defender throwing an opposition player to the ground during a corner.
The type of penalty you were after is rarely given, especially against big teams.
Is it a foul or not? A foul inside the area is a penalty, correct me if I'm wrong... Am I wrong?
I'm not after a penalty, only after the truth.
Another question: what do you think would happen if it was in the opposite area?
To be honest, I've been watching football for more than 30 years, played for some years and even against some famous and top players, and most of the times, the referees concede this type of penalties. Not against Italian teams, though...
I am not debating whether it is a penalty or not - I already told you, technically it is a penalty. Technically everytime a defender pulls a striker to the floor in the box, during a free kick or corner, it is a penalty too..
What I am saying is the refs rarely give these type of penalties and it is even more rare against a big team like Juve.
Football is not an honest sport. Refs also are scared of certain players. Look at what Pepe has done to other players over the years without even a yellow.
Not a fair compairaison at all. At corners or free throws a penalty is given quite rarely.
Excuse me but I'll not continue with this.
My last post on this tread. Anyone who has the courage to say that this is not a penalty and clear as cristal water is not being honest.
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And an honest referee always gives a penalty, always.
Good insights, Faliro.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 25 de Abril de 2014, 15:54
I hope and believe, that if Rome does not win against Milan, MR. put in place a team capable of winning with the sassuolo. because it would be mathematically won the championship.
In this way, the juve would be free mentally and to better prepare the semi-final return.
I see. Aren't you afraid of the physical condition of less fit players like Pirlo though? I can see this being decided on extra time... 2-1 is a very likely result. 72h probably isn't enough for some players to fully recover their stamina and be prepared for 120' if that's the case.
How's this 2nd leg being perceived in Italy? Most Juventus fans consider this your biggest, most decisive, european game in the last decade or the CL group stage games gathered more excitement? Conte showed that he really wants an european cup, that's for sure. Probably more of a mad man than Jorge Jesus himself.
Citação de: pcssousa em 25 de Abril de 2014, 18:42
Not a fair compairaison at all. At corners or free throws a penalty is given quite rarely.
Excuse me but I'll not continue with this.
Faliro was just contextualising. He already said it was a penalty.
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Citação de: Gottschalk em 25 de Abril de 2014, 19:27
Citação de: pcssousa em 25 de Abril de 2014, 18:42
Not a fair compairaison at all. At corners or free throws a penalty is given quite rarely.
Excuse me but I'll not continue with this.
Faliro was just contextualising. He already said it was a penalty.
Vou escrever em português que é para entederes bem, tu e todos. Ele disse que era penalty mas que raramente os árbitros marcam aquele tipo de penalties, o que é uma grande, enorme falsidade, como qualquer um que conhece o mínimo de futebol sabe. Aquele é daqueles penalties de livro, dos que se usam para ilustrar num curso de arbitragem o que é um penalty. Depois, para ficar bem na foto, disse que além de ser raro marcarem ainda será menos contra os grandes clubes.
Eu sou Benfiquista, como Benfiquista sinto-me na obrigação de seguir os princípios do clube. Estes dizem-me para ser honesto, portanto o que disse acerca deste penalty mantinha-o se fosse contra nós. E repito, isto não é uma questão de interpretação, é claro.
Os princípios da conduta Benfiquista levam-me a desprezar quem é desonesto e, fico manifestamente ofendido quando vejo alguém a defender forasteiros que, ainda por cima estão a ser desonestos e não dão o braço a torcer.
Se há algum problema com isso? Para mim nenhum, simplesmente quem falta à verdade repetidamente merece o meu desprezo, quem se deixa enganar por quem o faz que ganhe juízo e deixe de ser parvo.
Por isto, e simplesmente por isto, opto por jamais voltar a comentar aqui, deixando-vos assim à vontade para apaparicarem a estranja.
Passem bem.
Acho que fazes bem em deixar de escrever aqui.
Não é para este propósito que este tipo de tópicos são criados, basta andar um bocado na internet para perceber o que resulta e o que não resulta discutir entre adeptos de diferentes clubes.
Se é para discutir árbitros, mais vale não discutir. Não vais mudar coisa nenhuma, por mais razão que tenhas.
Há muitas coisas interessantes para discutir e partilhar com adeptos de outros clubes.
É ASSIM MESMO CARAGOOO PASSEM-SE!
PUTA QUE PARIU O TURCO! ::bater:: ::bater::
I know I broke the rule myself because I think pcssousa deserved an answer but let's try to keep this english only.
Citação de: pcssousa em 25 de Abril de 2014, 21:27
Citação de: Gottschalk em 25 de Abril de 2014, 19:27
Citação de: pcssousa em 25 de Abril de 2014, 18:42
Not a fair compairaison at all. At corners or free throws a penalty is given quite rarely.
Excuse me but I'll not continue with this.
Faliro was just contextualising. He already said it was a penalty.
Vou escrever em português que é para entederes bem, tu e todos. Ele disse que era penalty mas que raramente os árbitros marcam aquele tipo de penalties, o que é uma grande, enorme falsidade, como qualquer um que conhece o mínimo de futebol sabe. Aquele é daqueles penalties de livro, dos que se usam para ilustrar num curso de arbitragem o que é um penalty. Depois, para ficar bem na foto, disse que além de ser raro marcarem ainda será menos contra os grandes clubes.
Eu sou Benfiquista, como Benfiquista sinto-me na obrigação de seguir os princípios do clube. Estes dizem-me para ser honesto, portanto o que disse acerca deste penalty mantinha-o se fosse contra nós. E repito, isto não é uma questão de interpretação, é claro.
Os princípios da conduta Benfiquista levam-me a desprezar quem é desonesto e, fico manifestamente ofendido quando vejo alguém a defender forasteiros que, ainda por cima estão a ser desonestos e não dão o braço a torcer.
Se há algum problema com isso? Para mim nenhum, simplesmente quem falta à verdade repetidamente merece o meu desprezo, quem se deixa enganar por quem o faz que ganhe juízo e deixe de ser parvo.
Por isto, e simplesmente por isto, opto por jamais voltar a comentar aqui, deixando-vos assim à vontade para apaparicarem a estranja.
Passem bem.
Firstly, I stated before the game I wanted Benfica to win this game and spoke on why I disliked Italian football.
Secondly I explained the foul was a penalty, but the type not often given. At the time of the foul the Juve player had his back to the Benfica player and almost seemed to block him with his ass - this is not the most obvious penalty in the history of football. Add to this the fact football is not an honest sport - look at the league Juve come from.. why are you so shocked? The biggest defeat of Olympiakos in history and one of the biggest in CL defeats history was Juve beating us 7-0. I am not interested in Juve doing well trust me. :crazy2:
Thirdly, pcssousa - it is not about taking sides. I saw the whole game and was pissed off when Juve scored. You need to chill out and focus your energies on someone who is a real enemy to your team, you seem to be going crazy here. Benfica still have a good chance in the second leg. :flagglorioso:
Citação de: Faliro em 25 de Abril de 2014, 21:54
Citação de: pcssousa em 25 de Abril de 2014, 21:27
Citação de: Gottschalk em 25 de Abril de 2014, 19:27
Citação de: pcssousa em 25 de Abril de 2014, 18:42
Not a fair compairaison at all. At corners or free throws a penalty is given quite rarely.
Excuse me but I'll not continue with this.
Faliro was just contextualising. He already said it was a penalty.
Vou escrever em português que é para entederes bem, tu e todos. Ele disse que era penalty mas que raramente os árbitros marcam aquele tipo de penalties, o que é uma grande, enorme falsidade, como qualquer um que conhece o mínimo de futebol sabe. Aquele é daqueles penalties de livro, dos que se usam para ilustrar num curso de arbitragem o que é um penalty. Depois, para ficar bem na foto, disse que além de ser raro marcarem ainda será menos contra os grandes clubes.
Eu sou Benfiquista, como Benfiquista sinto-me na obrigação de seguir os princípios do clube. Estes dizem-me para ser honesto, portanto o que disse acerca deste penalty mantinha-o se fosse contra nós. E repito, isto não é uma questão de interpretação, é claro.
Os princípios da conduta Benfiquista levam-me a desprezar quem é desonesto e, fico manifestamente ofendido quando vejo alguém a defender forasteiros que, ainda por cima estão a ser desonestos e não dão o braço a torcer.
Se há algum problema com isso? Para mim nenhum, simplesmente quem falta à verdade repetidamente merece o meu desprezo, quem se deixa enganar por quem o faz que ganhe juízo e deixe de ser parvo.
Por isto, e simplesmente por isto, opto por jamais voltar a comentar aqui, deixando-vos assim à vontade para apaparicarem a estranja.
Passem bem.
Firstly, I stated before the game I wanted Benfica to win this game and spoke on why I disliked Italian football.
Secondly I explained the foul was a penalty, but the type not often given. At the time of the foul the Juve player had his back to the Benfica player and almost seemed to block him with his ass - this is not the most obvious penalty in the history of football. Add to this the fact football is not an honest sport - look at the league Juve come from.. why are you so shocked?
Thirdly, pcssousa - it is not about taking sides. I saw the whole game and was pissed off when Juve scored. You need to chill out and focus your energies on someone who is a real enemy to your team, you seem to be going crazy here. Benfica still have a good chance in the second leg.
Faliro sorry for my bad english but penalty is always penalty no matter how it is done.
Caceres with her big ass prevents the progression of Enzo Perez.
Citação de: Fever em 25 de Abril de 2014, 21:34
Acho que fazes bem em deixar de escrever aqui.
Não é para este propósito que este tipo de tópicos são criados, basta andar um bocado na internet para perceber o que resulta e o que não resulta discutir entre adeptos de diferentes clubes.
Se é para discutir árbitros, mais vale não discutir. Não vais mudar coisa nenhuma, por mais razão que tenhas.
Há muitas coisas interessantes para discutir e partilhar com adeptos de outros clubes.
Sinceramente não te vejo com propriedade alguma para dizeres se devo ou não escrever aqui.
Ainda não te vi ser sincero e dizeres quem tem razão e quem cala consente. Neste caso, quem está a consentir que haja quem tenha a distinta lata de defender uma arbitragem vergonhosa a bafejar um clube com o passado corrupto que todos conhecemos são vocês.
Eu não conheço nem quero conhecer fóruns de clubes estrangeiros, porque estou habituado ao Benfiquismo e aos seus princípios de honestidade. Mas ainda bem que não conheço, pois não iria gostar de um espaço onde adeptos do clube ao qual é dedicado o fórum andassem a desculpar as patranhas dos forasteiros.
O resultado do jogo de ontem é indissociável da arbitragem. Quem disser o contrário mente e nem merece respeito algum. Se porventura formos eliminados à conta disto quero ver se vocês continuarão com fair plays e as palmadinhas nas costas desta gente.
Bem, as atitudes ficam com quem as toma,
Outra coisa, é de muito mau tom estares a aconselhar alguém a não falar de arbitragens, principalmente acerca de um jogo em que o Benfica foi manifestamente lesado e tendo em conta que estamos no fórum de Benfiquistas, para os Benfiquistas e pelo Benfica.
Uma coisa te prometo, na próxima quinta que volte a haver uma arbitragem destas, passemos nós ou não que os gajos vão todos corridos de gatuno para cima.
Citação de: pcssousa em 25 de Abril de 2014, 21:27
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ele não é benfiquista nem da Juve, é neutro, e deu apenas a opinião dele sobre este assunto em particular.
não é caso para se chatearem e deixarem de cá vir ;)
é normal que nos deixemos levar um pouco mais pla emoção porque aconteceu com o nosso clube...
Citação de: Faliro em 25 de Abril de 2014, 21:54
Thirdly, pcssousa - it is not about taking sides. I saw the whole game and was pissed off when Juve scored. You need to chill out and focus your energies on someone who is a real enemy to your team, you seem to be going crazy here. Benfica still have a good chance in the second leg. :flagglorioso:
I am as calm as it gets and I've always been a calm guy.
I repeat, the penalty is clear. But not repeating myself.
My club was founded under a ethics code. Honesty is one of the most important things for us. For instance, Enzo deserved to be sent off yesterday.
To finish, yeah, I'm really upset. Someone told me not to defend my club in it's own forum. Not to talk about the truth. And, the truth is all we have been fighting for in the last 30 years.
Citação de: Faliro em 25 de Abril de 2014, 21:54
Firstly, I stated before the game I wanted Benfica to win this game and spoke on why I disliked Italian football.
............
Benfica still have a good chance in the second leg. :flagglorioso:
pretty rare for Benfica to not score any goals
I think we got this :coolsmiley:
and I think 2-2 will be the result there.
hoping Gaitán and Fejsa will be fit for 2nd leg, our chances will be even better with them.
This board is used to discuss all subjects about SL Benfica in english ONLY.
I knew it wasn't the last time you would post here anyway.
This is not the place for you to fight your battles.
Juventus, Olympiacos, Barcelona or Colchester fans are not responsible for whatever happened in Portugal in the last 30 years, so give them a break.
I might be young but I've been on the internet for some years now.
I know what works and what doesn't work to create a friendly environment between football fans from around the world.
What you're doing here with that kind of attitude is ruining this board, even though I know that is the last thing you want.
We have a topic to discuss refereeing in our General board. That's a proper place to discuss Mr. Çakir and every other referee.
Man, you don't have to explain me the rules. I wrote in Portuguese cause seems like some of you didn't understood what I wrote in English.
Let's analyze this sentence:
"This board is used to discuss all subjects about SL Benfica in english only."
Ok, so in this board we can discuss all subjects about Benfica, but in English... Ok... So, by suggesting not to talk about the referee, the Turkish bastard, seems like you want to interfere with my freedom of talking about all subjects about Benfica.
Ok... Understood.
Look, to me all people are equal. Don't care about their colour, religion, gender, sexual orientation. Only care about one thing: honest or not?
We can support a club, any club and being honest. And to me, it's all I really care.
Other thing, I can fight my battles wherever and whenever I want, and you're nobody to tell me not to. So stop interfering with my freedom.
Since you are giving so many advices, it's time for me to advice you to fill in for the staff.
Now that everything is cleared, let's be friends and forget about it.
I wasn't attacking you with the english only thing. It was to try to prevent everyone else from following us and do the same.
You always take this kind of things badly. I don't wanna be staff and I don't want you to stop writing what you want to write.
What I'm saying is that I've been on international football message boards before and if we want this board to have a positive environment we can't have that kind of attitude here.
Constantly talking about referees here serves absolutely no purpose other making every non-Benfica fan go away. I doesn't solve any problem and no one stays here for that. I know I wouldn't.
This kind of places are amazing when there are two sets of fans willing to learn more about each other. I'm just trying to avoid this turning to a place where two sets of fans discuss who got more calls from the referee and walk away hating each other.
Juve Juve Vaffanculo
No, no, no, you are making things personal when you write things like: "you always take this kind of things badly". And also, that is not true, more, it's entirely false.
If you want to take this to that level, then it's better to solve this by PM.
And again, this is not about the referee or any bad call. It's about honesty and anyone that cannot be honest doesn't deserve my time or my Latin.
To finish, you also made a mistake when you said talking about referees ruined this section. It's not true at all and easy to confirm.
An advise: in the future try to advert the correct person. I was not the one who started to talk about the referee and I was not the one being dishonest about it, saying it wasn't a penalty.
It's not worth to discuss that since in the Second half it will be worse because Corruption needs to go to the final.
You just proved it again and you won't stop doing this to the thread. I'm out.
The only good thing is that soon no one will come to read this crap. Next time don't forget to complain about opponents who don't respect Benfica.
Citação de: Faliro em 25 de Abril de 2014, 21:54
Citação de: pcssousa em 25 de Abril de 2014, 21:27
Citação de: Gottschalk em 25 de Abril de 2014, 19:27
Citação de: pcssousa em 25 de Abril de 2014, 18:42
Not a fair compairaison at all. At corners or free throws a penalty is given quite rarely.
Excuse me but I'll not continue with this.
Faliro was just contextualising. He already said it was a penalty.
Vou escrever em português que é para entederes bem, tu e todos. Ele disse que era penalty mas que raramente os árbitros marcam aquele tipo de penalties, o que é uma grande, enorme falsidade, como qualquer um que conhece o mínimo de futebol sabe. Aquele é daqueles penalties de livro, dos que se usam para ilustrar num curso de arbitragem o que é um penalty. Depois, para ficar bem na foto, disse que além de ser raro marcarem ainda será menos contra os grandes clubes.
Eu sou Benfiquista, como Benfiquista sinto-me na obrigação de seguir os princípios do clube. Estes dizem-me para ser honesto, portanto o que disse acerca deste penalty mantinha-o se fosse contra nós. E repito, isto não é uma questão de interpretação, é claro.
Os princípios da conduta Benfiquista levam-me a desprezar quem é desonesto e, fico manifestamente ofendido quando vejo alguém a defender forasteiros que, ainda por cima estão a ser desonestos e não dão o braço a torcer.
Se há algum problema com isso? Para mim nenhum, simplesmente quem falta à verdade repetidamente merece o meu desprezo, quem se deixa enganar por quem o faz que ganhe juízo e deixe de ser parvo.
Por isto, e simplesmente por isto, opto por jamais voltar a comentar aqui, deixando-vos assim à vontade para apaparicarem a estranja.
Passem bem.
Firstly, I stated before the game I wanted Benfica to win this game and spoke on why I disliked Italian football.
Secondly I explained the foul was a penalty, but the type not often given. At the time of the foul the Juve player had his back to the Benfica player and almost seemed to block him with his ass - this is not the most obvious penalty in the history of football. Add to this the fact football is not an honest sport - look at the league Juve come from.. why are you so shocked? The biggest defeat of Olympiakos in history and one of the biggest in CL defeats history was Juve beating us 7-0. I am not interested in Juve doing well trust me. :crazy2:
Thirdly, pcssousa - it is not about taking sides. I saw the whole game and was pissed off when Juve scored. You need to chill out and focus your energies on someone who is a real enemy to your team, you seem to be going crazy here. Benfica still have a good chance in the second leg. :flagglorioso:
This is a joke, right? It's so false and absurd that it has to be. The part comparing this with what happens in corners can be even worse though.
Citação de: Sadness em 26 de Abril de 2014, 02:32
Juve Juve Vaffanculo
only one thing:
Sadness, as your nickname
Citação de: Sadness em 26 de Abril de 2014, 02:40
It's not worth to discuss that since in the Second half it will be worse because Corruption needs to go to the final.
some are just good at talking at random and mindless.
but what do you know about what happened in Italy?
I'll tell you: nothing!
please, so call "Mafia" or "corruption" something close to you (something where you can claim 100% what you say), without going through an imbecile or the ultras usually ignorant of the curve.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 10:01
Citação de: Sadness em 26 de Abril de 2014, 02:40
It's not worth to discuss that since in the Second half it will be worse because Corruption needs to go to the final.
some are just good at talking at random and mindless.
but what do you know about what happened in Italy?
I'll tell you: nothing!
please, so call "Mafia" or "corruption" something close to you (something where you can claim 100% what you say), without going through an imbecile or the ultras usually ignorant of the curve.
I apologize to the other friends (with whom he has always spoken with respect and friendship) to what I wrote.
But I can not endure such inaccuracies against Juventus ... because it is not.
Respect to the others user, except for the user that sent the fuck juventus accusing it of corruption
I join in the discussion "Penalties or less":
As I have already written to me if the referee whistled the penalty would not wrong, but he was not wrong not even whistle the penalty ... is a typical case borderline.
But be careful, many of you speak of obstruction of caceres ... if you consider the surgery obstruction of caceres the referee must blow the whistle just an indirect free kick in the penalty area: the rule is clear!
Juventino, we have hundreds (thousands?) of users here and as is it normal, you will find many different opinions, more or less respectful to your club.
I think you should just ignore those that you think are not worth replying.
I would do the same if I would participate in a Juventus forum.
Citação de: Darkboy em 25 de Abril de 2014, 19:14
Good insights, Faliro.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 25 de Abril de 2014, 15:54
I hope and believe, that if Rome does not win against Milan, MR. put in place a team capable of winning with the sassuolo. because it would be mathematically won the championship.
In this way, the juve would be free mentally and to better prepare the semi-final return.
I see. Aren't you afraid of the physical condition of less fit players like Pirlo though? I can see this being decided on extra time... 2-1 is a very likely result. 72h probably isn't enough for some players to fully recover their stamina and be prepared for 120' if that's the case.
How's this 2nd leg being perceived in Italy? Most Juventus fans consider this your biggest, most decisive, european game in the last decade or the CL group stage games gathered more excitement? Conte showed that he really wants an european cup, that's for sure. Probably more of a mad man than Jorge Jesus himself.
dear friend,
with the victory of Rome last night, now more than ever we must deploy a formation capable of achieving victory in sassuolo.
A misstep in sassuolo, would give confidence to the "Giallorossi".
The possibility of extra time with benfica is more of a chance, but this is football and if juventus (as well as benfica) want to aspire to the most prestigious goals (the Champions League, for example), do not be afraid to tackle commitments close together and filled with tension.
Moreover, the players who took the field are very well paid professionals (outrageously well paid, their salary would be well my family for years and years) to withstand the tension.
Citação de: Special_Red em 26 de Abril de 2014, 10:29
Juventino, we have hundreds (thousands?) of users here and as is it normal, you will find many different opinions, more or less respectful to your club.
I think you should just ignore those that you think are not worth replying.
I would do the same if I would participate in a Juventus forum.
I have often ignored other users of the same "Pasta", but I think everything has a limit.
I agree with you, probably in our forum, many of my brethren in the faith would have reserved the same reception.
However, I was invited to write in this forum section in English just to avoid insults or worse.
Just as you would have been invited into a different section in our forum for not being "insulted".
Sorry again my outburst.
for me, the controversy ends here.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 10:44
Citação de: Special_Red em 26 de Abril de 2014, 10:29
Juventino, we have hundreds (thousands?) of users here and as is it normal, you will find many different opinions, more or less respectful to your club.
I think you should just ignore those that you think are not worth replying.
I would do the same if I would participate in a Juventus forum.
I have often ignored other users of the same "Pasta", but I think everything has a limit.
I agree with you, probably in our forum, many of my brethren in the faith would have reserved the same reception.
However, I was invited to write in this forum section in English just to avoid insults or worse.
Just as you would have been invited into a different section in our forum for not being "insulted".
Sorry again my outburst.
for me, the controversy ends here.
We are discussing football. So there will always be some controversy, depending on the side you choose to defend. :)
For the second game, I just wish for an impartial referee and, may the best team win. (hopefully Benfica, for me)
Do you think that Conte will still rest many players against Sassuolo?
We know that after yesterday's Roma win, it might be difficult for Juventus to rest many players.
And what about Vidal, do you think that he might be fit in time to play Benfica?
Citação de: Special_Red em 26 de Abril de 2014, 11:02
Do you think that Conte will still rest many players against Sassuolo?
We know that after yesterday's Roma win, it might be difficult for Juventus to put to rest many players.
And what about Vidal, do you think that he might be fit in time to play Benfica?
with the victory of Rome last night, now more than ever we must deploy a formation capable of achieving victory in sassuolo.
A misstep in sassuolo, would give confidence to the "Giallorossi".
Vidal:
I do not think that recoveries for May 1 ... unfortunately I do not think that most recoveries this season.
it speak, of surgery, for him
Citação de: pcssousa em 25 de Abril de 2014, 22:05
Citação de: Fever em 25 de Abril de 2014, 21:34
Acho que fazes bem em deixar de escrever aqui.
Não é para este propósito que este tipo de tópicos são criados, basta andar um bocado na internet para perceber o que resulta e o que não resulta discutir entre adeptos de diferentes clubes.
Se é para discutir árbitros, mais vale não discutir. Não vais mudar coisa nenhuma, por mais razão que tenhas.
Há muitas coisas interessantes para discutir e partilhar com adeptos de outros clubes.
Sinceramente não te vejo com propriedade alguma para dizeres se devo ou não escrever aqui.
Ainda não te vi ser sincero e dizeres quem tem razão e quem cala consente. Neste caso, quem está a consentir que haja quem tenha a distinta lata de defender uma arbitragem vergonhosa a bafejar um clube com o passado corrupto que todos conhecemos são vocês.
Eu não conheço nem quero conhecer fóruns de clubes estrangeiros, porque estou habituado ao Benfiquismo e aos seus princípios de honestidade. Mas ainda bem que não conheço, pois não iria gostar de um espaço onde adeptos do clube ao qual é dedicado o fórum andassem a desculpar as patranhas dos forasteiros.
O resultado do jogo de ontem é indissociável da arbitragem. Quem disser o contrário mente e nem merece respeito algum. Se porventura formos eliminados à conta disto quero ver se vocês continuarão com fair plays e as palmadinhas nas costas desta gente.
Bem, as atitudes ficam com quem as toma,
Outra coisa, é de muito mau tom estares a aconselhar alguém a não falar de arbitragens, principalmente acerca de um jogo em que o Benfica foi manifestamente lesado e tendo em conta que estamos no fórum de Benfiquistas, para os Benfiquistas e pelo Benfica.
Uma coisa te prometo, na próxima quinta que volte a haver uma arbitragem destas, passemos nós ou não que os gajos vão todos corridos de gatuno para cima.
In the land of the other's, the other's rules...
Tinha que sublinhar isto porque estou completamente de acordo com o Sousa
:slb2:
It's really a pity that both teams could not play with their best players in both matches.
We've also had problems with Salvio, Gaitàn e Fejsa. Hopefully the last 2 might be fit for the 2nd game.
Citação de: Fever em 26 de Abril de 2014, 03:47
You just proved it again and you won't stop doing this to the thread. I'm out.
The only good thing is that soon no one will come to read this crap. Next time don't forget to complain about opponents who don't respect Benfica.
Grow up please... No one will respect Benfica in the future because 2 or 3 foreign users might feel offended?
Listen, I'm also offended by the lack of honesty, so stop crying.
On another thread you were complaining that someone was persecuting you, seems almost like you're doing the same by accusing others of ruining this.
I like everybody, as long as they are honest. And, as I said before, if Juventus was punished in the past and recovered, they deserve my full credit, cause they paid for their mistakes an manage to dominate Italian football again.
But one thing is right, everybody should leave the corruption theme outside.
It would also be great if you, my friend, stop accusing others of this or that, cause that makes you the one really ruining this.
:amigo:
Citação de: Special_Red em 26 de Abril de 2014, 10:57
We are discussing football. So there will always be some controversy, depending on the side you choose to defend. :)
Often, in this society ... football is the mirror of the people.
What I hate is ignorance. Ignorance in the true sense of the term, that is, not knowing things.
therefore, it would be better not to speak of things you do not know or that at most it is heard or read.
Citação de: pcssousa em 26 de Abril de 2014, 11:22
Citação de: Fever em 26 de Abril de 2014, 03:47
You just proved it again and you won't stop doing this to the thread. I'm out.
The only good thing is that soon no one will come to read this crap. Next time don't forget to complain about opponents who don't respect Benfica.
Grow up please... No one will respect Benfica in the future because 2 or 3 foreign users might feel offended?
Listen, I'm also offended by the lack of honesty, so stop crying.
On another thread you were complaining that someone was persecuting you, seems almost like you're doing the same by accusing others of ruining this.
I like everybody, as long as they are honest. And, as I said before, if Juventus was punished in the past and recovered, they deserve my full credit, cause they paid for their mistakes an manage to dominate Italian football again.
But one thing is right, everybody should leave the corruption theme outside.
It would also be great if you, my friend, stop accusing others of this or that, cause that makes you the one really ruining this.
:amigo:
Personally, I have the utmost respect for benfica and its history.
But, I would also respect for Benfica if the club did not have a glorious history.
Do you think that in turin May 14, Benfica and Juventus easy win the final?
We must have a proper respect for Valencia or Seville.
Finally, with respect to the teams, their cities, nations and people.
If we want to grow as Europe, we must put aside the past and respect different cultures.
Citação de: Special_Red em 26 de Abril de 2014, 11:20
It's really a pity that both teams could not play with their best players in both matches.
We've also had problems with Salvio, Gaitàn e Fejsa. Hopefully the last 2 might be fit for the 2nd game.
I really admire your coach ...
will make a virtue of necessity.
Your coach gave, Thursdays, turn the game: When the juventus could do the second goal, he did not just come in Lima that has marked your advantage, but it gave confidence to the team and over the past ten minutes the juventus has suffered so much.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 11:33
Personally, I have the utmost respect for benfica and its history.
But, I would also respect for Benfica if the club did not have a glorious history.
Do you think that in turin May 14, Benfica and Juventus easy win the final?
We must have a proper respect for Valencia or Seville.
Finally, with respect to the teams, their cities, nations and people.
If we want to grow as Europe, we must put aside the past and respect different cultures.
First of all, I consider myself an European above all. Second, as I said before, I love your country and visited plenty of Italian cities, even in Sardegna. Loved them all, but Roma, Milano, Florenza and Verona were my favorite ones.
I truly believe that either Juventus or Benfica are favorites against the Spaniards. And I really know Sevilla very well cause I have many friends in Andalucia. Right now Sevilla is stronger than Valencia, and a more dangerous opponent, I guess.
Under normal circumstances any of our teams would beat them in the final.
You benfica fans were in agree with the company when, BEGINNING championship, it wanted to exonerate Jesus?
I really like your coach
Laudrup, as you would have seen on your bench?
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 12:14
You benfica fans were in agree with the company when, BEGINNING championship, it wanted to exonerate Jesus?
I really like your coach
Laudrup, as you would have seen on your bench?
Yea. Most fans wanted Jesus out. He really improved our football, both in style and efficiency, as you can see by our UEFA Ranking variation in recent years for example, but the lack of trophies isn't something we can ignore. Losing it all last season after having a solid advantage to Porto in the year before and waste it as well did some damage to the confidence of the fans. Luckily we're already portuguese champions, that restablished some faith in the team. Anyway, he earns 4M€/year so he still own us some more cups. He earns more than any player in Benfica ever did. Probably Juventus can pay 4M€ per year easily but for us is a real sacrifice.
The president Luís Filipe Vieira renewed hs contract not only against the fans will but the executive board as well. A risky bet that was already won with the portuguese title. Kudos to him.
Not really on topic but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUWRfRyPYwc
This guy is hilarious
Such a pleasure to read JUVENTINO's posts. I hope he stays here after Thursday, just like Faliro.
Just to calm down your asses, here's a pic of my nephew practicing right now.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/26/mydabygy.jpg)
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Citação de: CkM em 26 de Abril de 2014, 12:39
Not really on topic but
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUWRfRyPYwc
This guy is hilarious
:)
Citação de: Jotenko em 26 de Abril de 2014, 12:40
Such a pleasure to read JUVENTINO's posts. I hope he stays here after Thursday, just like Faliro.
thank you ... :ashamed:
it is clear that right now, my posts are frequent in your forum and of course that they will diminish after Tuesday, but I can not forget you and how Faliro try to be present even after the semifinals.
My comparison with you, I'm finding not only enjoyable, but also constructive. O0
It 'a pleasure for example, to speak not only of Benfica-juventus, but also of Portuguese football in general ... or even talk of your town, city, customs and habits.
It 'also nice to talk about the story (as has happened a few days ago with the intervention of Faliro).
Every day, I am tempted to put the smiles of the benfica fan with flag bat ... I can not do now.
Maybe I'll do it after the semi-final (though it will end).
for the moment this place smiles:
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT0wPpTt7KlNhncEoLIyRAcgmm-neAofTx5WX4iAG8EAbA3kYIy1Q)
Juventino, i have an italian friend from Novara that lives here in Portugal. He's a diehard Inter fan. The question i have for you is, who is your biggest rival and why? I've always thought it would be AC Milan, but it seems that Inter-Juve is the biggest rivalry. Why is that? Simply because both have the majority of fans in the Country, or there's other reasons behind it?
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 14:42
Citação de: Jotenko em 26 de Abril de 2014, 12:40
Such a pleasure to read JUVENTINO's posts. I hope he stays here after Thursday, just like Faliro.
thank you ... :ashamed:
it is clear that right now, my posts are frequent in your forum and of course that they will diminish after Tuesday, but I can not forget you and how Faliro try to be present even after the semifinals.
My comparison with you, I'm finding not only enjoyable, but also constructive. O0
It 'a pleasure for example, to speak not only of Benfica-juventus, but also of Portuguese football in general ... or even talk of your town, city, customs and habits.
It 'also nice to talk about the story (as has happened a few days ago with the intervention of Faliro).
Every day, I am tempted to put the smiles of the benfica fan with flag bat ... I can not do now.
Maybe I'll do it after the semi-final (though it will end).
for the moment this place smiles:
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT0wPpTt7KlNhncEoLIyRAcgmm-neAofTx5WX4iAG8EAbA3kYIy1Q)
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/26/ryhusu2y.jpg)
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Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 26 de Abril de 2014, 14:54
Juventino, i have an italian friend from Novara that lives here in Portugal. He's a diehard Inter fan. The question i have for you is, who is your biggest rival and why? I've always thought it would be AC Milan, but it seems that Inter-Juve is the biggest rivalry. Why is that? Simply because both have the majority of fans in the Country, or there's other reasons behind it?
Good question :
Let's start by saying that juventus is the most hated of Italy .
When they make the calendars at the beginning of the season, the other teams (or basis of at least the fans ) say , "Okay , let's see when we play against Juventus ."
The Juventus fans , on the other hand , they say , "All right , let's see when we play against AC Milan , Inter, Fiorentina , Roma , etc. . Etc.". .
Before the scandal (2006 ) no team in particular was our natural antagonist ... there were so many antagonistic .
After 2006, Inter became the most hated team from Juventus .
Expressly for the following reasons :
1 ) they celebrated a championship awarded by the league after removing the juve ( inter came third in the championship with 15 points behind juventus ) ;
2 ) A few years later it was discovered that the Inter held behaviors far more serious than those of juventus . The juventus has never phoned directly to the arbitrators , while Facchetti ( God rest his soul ) is not only unhelpful to the referees but it turned out that he " Pushing " so that they had a behavior very encouraging for the inter . Only the prescription of offenses allowed to remain at Inter in Serie A.
Citação de: Jotenko em 26 de Abril de 2014, 15:16
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/26/ryhusu2y.jpg)
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That's the cat that looks like a little Mourinho and Benitez a bit? ;D
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 15:23
Citação de: Jotenko em 26 de Abril de 2014, 15:16
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That's the cat that looks like a little Mourinho and Benitez a bit? ;D
Yes.
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Citação de: Jotenko em 26 de Abril de 2014, 15:26
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 15:23
Citação de: Jotenko em 26 de Abril de 2014, 15:16
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That's the cat that looks like a little Mourinho and Benitez a bit? ;D
Yes.
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Your dog, on the other hand, looks like Jesus and Conte ;D
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 15:20
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 26 de Abril de 2014, 14:54
Juventino, i have an italian friend from Novara that lives here in Portugal. He's a diehard Inter fan. The question i have for you is, who is your biggest rival and why? I've always thought it would be AC Milan, but it seems that Inter-Juve is the biggest rivalry. Why is that? Simply because both have the majority of fans in the Country, or there's other reasons behind it?
Good question :
Let's start by saying that juventus is the most hated of Italy .
When they make the calendars at the beginning of the season, the other teams (or basis of at least the fans ) say , "Okay , let's see when we play against Juventus ."
The Juventus fans , on the other hand , they say , "All right , let's see when we play against AC Milan , Inter, Fiorentina , Roma , etc. . Etc.". .
Before the scandal (2006 ) no team in particular was our natural antagonist ... there were so many antagonistic .
After 2006, Inter became the most hated team from Juventus .
Expressly for the following reasons :
1 ) they celebrated a championship awarded by the league after removing the juve ( inter came third in the championship with 15 points behind juventus ) ;
2 ) A few years later it was discovered that the Inter held behaviors far more serious than those of juventus . The juventus has never phoned directly to the arbitrators , while Facchetti ( God rest his soul ) is not only unhelpful to the referees but it turned out that he " Pushing " so that they had a behavior very encouraging for the inter . Only the prescription of offenses allowed to remain at Inter in Serie A.
It's exactly the same in Portugal. Other teams are only interested in the game against us. That's the price you pay, when your club is the biggest in the country.
But regarding Juve, prior to 2006, you didn't have one clear rival? Sure Inter and Milan, are the other big clubs in the country, but you didn't have one in particular? Isn't that a little strange? I always thought it would be AC Milan, simply because they have more Champions, even though less titles internally.
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 26 de Abril de 2014, 15:36
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 15:20
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 26 de Abril de 2014, 14:54
Juventino, i have an italian friend from Novara that lives here in Portugal. He's a diehard Inter fan. The question i have for you is, who is your biggest rival and why? I've always thought it would be AC Milan, but it seems that Inter-Juve is the biggest rivalry. Why is that? Simply because both have the majority of fans in the Country, or there's other reasons behind it?
Good question :
Let's start by saying that juventus is the most hated of Italy .
When they make the calendars at the beginning of the season, the other teams (or basis of at least the fans ) say , "Okay , let's see when we play against Juventus ."
The Juventus fans , on the other hand , they say , "All right , let's see when we play against AC Milan , Inter, Fiorentina , Roma , etc. . Etc.". .
Before the scandal (2006 ) no team in particular was our natural antagonist ... there were so many antagonistic .
After 2006, Inter became the most hated team from Juventus .
Expressly for the following reasons :
1 ) they celebrated a championship awarded by the league after removing the juve ( inter came third in the championship with 15 points behind juventus ) ;
2 ) A few years later it was discovered that the Inter held behaviors far more serious than those of juventus . The juventus has never phoned directly to the arbitrators , while Facchetti ( God rest his soul ) is not only unhelpful to the referees but it turned out that he " Pushing " so that they had a behavior very encouraging for the inter . Only the prescription of offenses allowed to remain at Inter in Serie A.
It's exactly the same in Portugal. Other teams are only interested in the game against us. That's the price you pay, when your club is the biggest in the country.
But regarding Juve, prior to 2006, you didn't have one clear rival? Sure Inter and Milan, are the other big clubs in the country, but you didn't have one in particular? Isn't that a little strange? I always thought it would be AC Milan, simply because they have more Champions, even though less titles internally.
Fiorentina.
I guess Fiorentina has other reasons, namely Roberto Baggio. ;D
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 26 de Abril de 2014, 15:40
I guess Fiorentina has other reasons, namely Roberto Baggio. ;D
Yes, Più recenti, e legate all'imporsi alla ribalta negli anni ottanta delle loro squadre con conseguente lotta sportiva per la conquista del primato nazionale, le rivalità con la tifoseria della Fiorentina, legata principalmente alla lotta-scudetto del campionato 1981-82.
(http://www.fiorentina.it/objects/2014_04/nuno_gomes_2.jpg)
Nuno Gomes said Fiorentina fans live the games against Juventus in a different way. But I'm guessing the feeling may not be mutual. According to what JUVENTINO said, all teams see Juventus as the team to take down.
Citação de: IPASLB em 26 de Abril de 2014, 15:38
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 26 de Abril de 2014, 15:36
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 15:20
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 26 de Abril de 2014, 14:54
Juventino, i have an italian friend from Novara that lives here in Portugal. He's a diehard Inter fan. The question i have for you is, who is your biggest rival and why? I've always thought it would be AC Milan, but it seems that Inter-Juve is the biggest rivalry. Why is that? Simply because both have the majority of fans in the Country, or there's other reasons behind it?
Good question :
Let's start by saying that juventus is the most hated of Italy .
When they make the calendars at the beginning of the season, the other teams (or basis of at least the fans ) say , "Okay , let's see when we play against Juventus ."
The Juventus fans , on the other hand , they say , "All right , let's see when we play against AC Milan , Inter, Fiorentina , Roma , etc. . Etc.". .
Before the scandal (2006 ) no team in particular was our natural antagonist ... there were so many antagonistic .
After 2006, Inter became the most hated team from Juventus .
Expressly for the following reasons :
1 ) they celebrated a championship awarded by the league after removing the juve ( inter came third in the championship with 15 points behind juventus ) ;
2 ) A few years later it was discovered that the Inter held behaviors far more serious than those of juventus . The juventus has never phoned directly to the arbitrators , while Facchetti ( God rest his soul ) is not only unhelpful to the referees but it turned out that he " Pushing " so that they had a behavior very encouraging for the inter . Only the prescription of offenses allowed to remain at Inter in Serie A.
It's exactly the same in Portugal. Other teams are only interested in the game against us. That's the price you pay, when your club is the biggest in the country.
But regarding Juve, prior to 2006, you didn't have one clear rival? Sure Inter and Milan, are the other big clubs in the country, but you didn't have one in particular? Isn't that a little strange? I always thought it would be AC Milan, simply because they have more Champions, even though less titles internally.
Fiorentina.
before 2006 were created rivalries with the championship in process: if the title was disputed with Inter Milan (almost never) was then inter the main antagonist, and so on.
In every country, in every village of the Italian fans are so homes, created: 1) juventus 2) Milan / Inter 3) other.
Thus, the juve against everyone, and everyone against Juve.
The rivalry with Fiorentina is more from the "Viola"
It comes from a championship won against Fiorentina in 1982 (I think) the last minute.
Citação de: IPASLB em 26 de Abril de 2014, 15:42
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 26 de Abril de 2014, 15:40
I guess Fiorentina has other reasons, namely Roberto Baggio. ;D
Yes, Più recenti, e legate all'imporsi alla ribalta negli anni ottanta delle loro squadre con conseguente lotta sportiva per la conquista del primato nazionale, le rivalità con la tifoseria della Fiorentina, legata principalmente alla lotta-scudetto del campionato 1981-82.
it's correct O0
Citação de: Darkboy em 26 de Abril de 2014, 15:44
(http://www.fiorentina.it/objects/2014_04/nuno_gomes_2.jpg)
Nuno Gomes said Fiorentina fans live the games against Juventus in a different way. But I'm guessing the feeling may not be mutual. According to what JUVENTINO said, all teams see Juventus as the team to take down.
exactly
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 15:51
Citação de: Darkboy em 26 de Abril de 2014, 15:44
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Nuno Gomes said Fiorentina fans live the games against Juventus in a different way. But I'm guessing the feeling may not be mutual. According to what JUVENTINO said, all teams see Juventus as the team to take down.
exactly
Like SL Benfica in Portugal, the most loved but yet the most hated.
We more than anyone in Europe can understand that animosity. 50% of Portugal being red, there's a clear division between Benfica and anti Benfica. Sporting fans prefer Porto, Porto fans prefer Sporting.
In this video you can see "Sporting fans" (anti Benfica fans, actually) cheering Kelvin after his goal against Benfica.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDbM-zdUHxA
Keep in mind that Porto were the team to fuck'em over for three decades. They even gave away their team captain João Moutinho. Porto thrived at the expenses of having Sporting as a feeder club.
How pathetic.
Citação de: Darkboy em 26 de Abril de 2014, 16:00
We more than anyone in Europe can understand that animosity. 50% of Portugal being red, there's a clear division between Benfica and anti Benfica. Sporting fans prefer Porto, Porto fans prefer Sporting.
In this video you can see "Sporting fans" (anti Benfica fans, actually) cheering Kelvin after his goal against Benfica.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDbM-zdUHxA
Keep in mind that Porto were the team to fuck'em over for three decades. They even gave away their team captain João Moutinho. Porto thrived at the expenses of having Sporting as a feeder club.
How pathetic.
In the Netherlands, everyone seems to be against Ajax as well.
Juventino, i would like to know your all-time 11 from Juve? And aside Juve, if possible. Simple curiosity. :)
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 26 de Abril de 2014, 16:18
Juventino, i would like to know your all-time 11 from Juve? And aside Juve, if possible. Simple curiosity. :)
Juventus: 4 3 3
Buffon (but do not forget Zoff and Peruzzi)
Gentile, Scirea, Cannavaro, Cabrini
Nedved, Zidane, Platini
Trezeguet, Vialli, Del Piero
but as you see, hardly has a good harmony ... just passion for these players. I left out Baggio, Davids, tardelli, ravanelli, Bettega ... how do I put them in training?
Italy in general:
Buffon
Bergomi Scirea, Cannavaro, Maldini
Bruno Conti, tardelli, Pirlo
Vialli, Baggio, Del Piero (Totti)
what is the difference between Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese?
iis only a difference of idioms or grammar right?
it is true that the Brazilians are not considered in your league foreign players?
Do you feel, in some way, related to Brazil?
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 17:38
what is the difference between Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese?
iis only a difference of idioms or grammar right?
There are considerable differences, not only phonetic but also grammatical ones. Slang can be very different as well. Hell, even when ti comes to football, we both have different terms. Brazilians call a cup "Copa", while we call it "Taça". Brazilians call a Goalkeeper "Goleiro", while we call him "Guarda-Redes. A goal in Brazil is "gol", while here it's "golo".
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 17:42
Do you feel, in some way, related to Brazil?
I personally don't. Maybe some who might have family members there might feel related to Brazil.
Citação de: Festivus em 26 de Abril de 2014, 17:48
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 17:38
what is the difference between Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese?
iis only a difference of idioms or grammar right?
There are considerable differences, not only phonetic but also grammatical ones. Slang can be very different as well. Hell, even when ti comes to football, we both have different terms. Brazilians call a cup "Copa", while we call it "Taça". Brazilians call a Goalkeeper "Goleiro", while we call him "Guarda-Redes. A goal in Brazil is "gol", while here it's "golo".
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 17:42
Do you feel, in some way, related to Brazil?
I personally don't. Maybe some who might have family members there might feel related to Brazil.
the celebrations to goals of tele / radio commentators are similar to those in Brazil?
Or is this more a characteristic of South American in general?
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 17:56
Citação de: Festivus em 26 de Abril de 2014, 17:48
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 17:38
what is the difference between Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese?
iis only a difference of idioms or grammar right?
There are considerable differences, not only phonetic but also grammatical ones. Slang can be very different as well. Hell, even when ti comes to football, we both have different terms. Brazilians call a cup "Copa", while we call it "Taça". Brazilians call a Goalkeeper "Goleiro", while we call him "Guarda-Redes. A goal in Brazil is "gol", while here it's "golo".
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 17:42
Do you feel, in some way, related to Brazil?
I personally don't. Maybe some who might have family members there might feel related to Brazil.
the celebrations to goals of tele / radio commentators are similar to those in Brazil?
Or is this more a characteristic of South American in general?
I don't follow Brazilian football so I don't know how Brazilian commentators celebrate goals.
Here, our commentators usually just say "GOLOOOOOOO!". I think our commentators lack a bit of emotion at times.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 17:38
what is the difference between Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese?
iis only a difference of idioms or grammar right?
there are some differences, but not many. we have different accents and some words are also different, but for the most part is pretty much the same and we understand each other just fine.
well, some brazilians some times say they have a hard time understanding us if we speak too fast, but for the most part is fine.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 17:56
Citação de: Festivus em 26 de Abril de 2014, 17:48
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 17:38
what is the difference between Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese?
iis only a difference of idioms or grammar right?
There are considerable differences, not only phonetic but also grammatical ones. Slang can be very different as well. Hell, even when ti comes to football, we both have different terms. Brazilians call a cup "Copa", while we call it "Taça". Brazilians call a Goalkeeper "Goleiro", while we call him "Guarda-Redes. A goal in Brazil is "gol", while here it's "golo".
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 17:42
Do you feel, in some way, related to Brazil?
I personally don't. Maybe some who might have family members there might feel related to Brazil.
the celebrations to goals of tele / radio commentators are similar to those in Brazil?
Or is this more a characteristic of South American in general?
they celebrate on tv like we celebrate here on radio (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/4fvfcja.gif)
I mean, the commentators here on the tv are normally a bit more quiet, but on the radio they put up a show, they shout, make funny comments at times, etc...
brazilians do that even on tv, they're usually more "loud"
Citação de: Red.Fever em 26 de Abril de 2014, 18:09
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 17:56
Citação de: Festivus em 26 de Abril de 2014, 17:48
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 17:38
what is the difference between Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese?
iis only a difference of idioms or grammar right?
There are considerable differences, not only phonetic but also grammatical ones. Slang can be very different as well. Hell, even when ti comes to football, we both have different terms. Brazilians call a cup "Copa", while we call it "Taça". Brazilians call a Goalkeeper "Goleiro", while we call him "Guarda-Redes. A goal in Brazil is "gol", while here it's "golo".
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 17:42
Do you feel, in some way, related to Brazil?
I personally don't. Maybe some who might have family members there might feel related to Brazil.
the celebrations to goals of tele / radio commentators are similar to those in Brazil?
Or is this more a characteristic of South American in general?
they celebrate on tv like we celebrate here on radio (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/4fvfcja.gif)
I mean, the commentators here on the tv are normally a bit more quiet, but on the radio they put up a show, they shout, make funny comments at times, etc...
brazilians do that even on tv, they're usually more "loud"
It depends on the network. SportTV's commentators can really suck the life out of you. They're so dull to listen to even during goal celebrations.
Citação de: Festivus em 26 de Abril de 2014, 18:11
Citação de: Red.Fever em 26 de Abril de 2014, 18:09
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 17:56
Citação de: Festivus em 26 de Abril de 2014, 17:48
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 17:38
what is the difference between Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese?
iis only a difference of idioms or grammar right?
There are considerable differences, not only phonetic but also grammatical ones. Slang can be very different as well. Hell, even when ti comes to football, we both have different terms. Brazilians call a cup "Copa", while we call it "Taça". Brazilians call a Goalkeeper "Goleiro", while we call him "Guarda-Redes. A goal in Brazil is "gol", while here it's "golo".
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 17:42
Do you feel, in some way, related to Brazil?
I personally don't. Maybe some who might have family members there might feel related to Brazil.
the celebrations to goals of tele / radio commentators are similar to those in Brazil?
Or is this more a characteristic of South American in general?
they celebrate on tv like we celebrate here on radio (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/4fvfcja.gif)
I mean, the commentators here on the tv are normally a bit more quiet, but on the radio they put up a show, they shout, make funny comments at times, etc...
brazilians do that even on tv, they're usually more "loud"
It depends on the network. SportTV's commentators can really suck the life out of you. They're so dull to listen to even during goal celebrations.
completely agree
SportTV it's the worst, they sucks really bad, in almost everything
someone scores a goal and it seems more like someone died :buck2:
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 17:41
it is true that the Brazilians are not considered in your league foreign players?
nah, they're considered foreign
to make squads here we need players from Portugal and from the club, brazilians don't fill that gap
JUVENTINO, what places have you visited in Italy? And which ones do you recommend?
Benfica TV:
Mating Cosmos since 2013.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 17:41
it is true that the Brazilians are not considered in your league foreign players?
Partially true. Not consider Portuguese, though.
They have a similar status to EU players, cause Brazilian workers have a work permit in Portugal, just like players from our old African colonies.
Benfica TV:
Owning Cosmos since 2013.
Citação de: Dandy em 26 de Abril de 2014, 19:47
Benfica TV:
Owning Cosmos since 2013.
Shame on Carl Sagan.
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Is that Tevéz jumping on Luisão's back? :huh:
Citação de: Festivus em 26 de Abril de 2014, 21:34
Is that Tevéz jumping on Luisão's back? :huh:
funny thing is... I actually thought the same thing when I saw the image :2funny: :2funny:
JUVENTINO if a gay flirts with you, does it feed your ego? My kittie gave to birth inside my closet twice.
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This is my dad (Sp. Braga fan) talking to our dog.
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My mother making tea. My mom hates football. She says it's outrageous how much players profit.
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The hell is going on here? :huh:
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Watching Masterchef Portugal.
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Jotenko going beserk!
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 26 de Abril de 2014, 15:36
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 15:20
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 26 de Abril de 2014, 14:54
Juventino, i have an italian friend from Novara that lives here in Portugal. He's a diehard Inter fan. The question i have for you is, who is your biggest rival and why? I've always thought it would be AC Milan, but it seems that Inter-Juve is the biggest rivalry. Why is that? Simply because both have the majority of fans in the Country, or there's other reasons behind it?
Good question :
Let's start by saying that juventus is the most hated of Italy .
When they make the calendars at the beginning of the season, the other teams (or basis of at least the fans ) say , "Okay , let's see when we play against Juventus ."
The Juventus fans , on the other hand , they say , "All right , let's see when we play against AC Milan , Inter, Fiorentina , Roma , etc. . Etc.". .
Before the scandal (2006 ) no team in particular was our natural antagonist ... there were so many antagonistic .
After 2006, Inter became the most hated team from Juventus .
Expressly for the following reasons :
1 ) they celebrated a championship awarded by the league after removing the juve ( inter came third in the championship with 15 points behind juventus ) ;
2 ) A few years later it was discovered that the Inter held behaviors far more serious than those of juventus . The juventus has never phoned directly to the arbitrators , while Facchetti ( God rest his soul ) is not only unhelpful to the referees but it turned out that he " Pushing " so that they had a behavior very encouraging for the inter . Only the prescription of offenses allowed to remain at Inter in Serie A.
It's exactly the same in Portugal. Other teams are only interested in the game against us. That's the price you pay, when your club is the biggest in the country.
But regarding Juve, prior to 2006, you didn't have one clear rival? Sure Inter and Milan, are the other big clubs in the country, but you didn't have one in particular? Isn't that a little strange? I always thought it would be AC Milan, simply because they have more Champions, even though less titles internally.
Historically speaking, the greatest rivalry among the Italian fanbase is between Juventus and Internazionale. It's no wonder it's called the
"Derby d'Italia."That might have waned a bit before 2006 because of Inter's title drought in the 90's.
Citação de: Jotenko em 26 de Abril de 2014, 22:22
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And that's you in the picture.
Citação de: Jotenko em 26 de Abril de 2014, 22:35
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Watching Masterchef Portugal.
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Muitas pessoas de gordura e é cada vez maior, a solução: assistir a programas de culinária.
Many people fat and it is increasing, the solution: watch cooking shows.
My mother: as long as he is eating everything is good. Piggy in the middle and at both sides.
You have a mental illness, Jotenko.
Jotenko has befriended President Vieira a long time ago.
I even saw a picture of him getting in touch with the smoothness of Vieira's dark red leather jacket.
Juventus Vaffanculo.
An otherwise interesting thread now in the process of full degeneration.
Citação de: Festivus em 26 de Abril de 2014, 22:27
The hell is going on here? :huh:
This, my friend, is Jotenko's world:
Dark, bizarre and perverted.
we won against Porco again, with our reserves, and playing with 10 again, for an hour again :smokin:
Juve Next (http://yoursmiles.org/msmile/pozitive/m1266.gif)
Unfortunately Juventus will be 10 times harder. But I'm confident.
This match is going to be huge and extremely difficult, Juve is strong, but i'm confident in Benfica.
Citação de: Darkboy em 27 de Abril de 2014, 22:04
Unfortunately Juventus will be 10 times harder. But I'm confident.
10 appears to be a lucky number now, so I hope we'll do a good game and may Djuricic score the winning goal.
Citação de: Jotenko em 26 de Abril de 2014, 22:14
JUVENTINO if a gay flirts with you, does it feed your ego? It happens to me. Last time it happened to me my cock went hard. It was due to the thightness of my pants afterall. My kittie gave to birth inside my closet twice.
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:huh:
jotenko, I'm not gay.
so if a gay flirt with me, for my part there is no reaction in my pants
But what became this topic?
A Jungle, fuck! :2funny:
Citação de: Gottschalk em 26 de Abril de 2014, 22:57
Historically speaking, the greatest rivalry among the Italian fanbase is between Juventus and Internazionale. It's no wonder it's called the "Derby d'Italia."
That might have waned a bit before 2006 because of Inter's title drought in the 90's.
It was called derby of Italy because the two teams were never relegated to Serie B.
Now no longer makes sense, given that the juve (unfairly) was sent to Serie B.
Citação de: Festivus em 26 de Abril de 2014, 18:40
JUVENTINO, what places have you visited in Italy? And which ones do you recommend?
I have visited almost all of Italy and every place deserves to be visited.
Italy is beautiful all ... the problem is that some Italians do not go well. ;D
Last summer I went on holiday in Umbria, beautiful.
We recommend viewing the cascaded Marmore and also visit Assisi (where you can find it at the same time, religion and paganism - hundreds of stores and churches are "Time" among them -).
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 28 de Abril de 2014, 10:26
Citação de: Festivus em 26 de Abril de 2014, 18:40
JUVENTINO, what places have you visited in Italy? And which ones do you recommend?
I have visited almost all of Italy and every place deserves to be visited.
Italy is beautiful all ... the problem is that some Italians do not go well. ;D
Last summer I went on holiday in Umbria, beautiful.
We recommend viewing the cascaded Marmore and also visit Assisi (where you can find it at the same time, religion and paganism - hundreds of stores and churches are "Time" among them -).
It's true, I saw now photos of Marmore and Assisi and it's amazing very beautiful.
Indeed I agree with you. You have a very beautiful country and very diverse. I've been in a lot of places from Veneto to Sicilia and for me the problem is like you say some italians do not go well. Too bad you had berlusconi governing it. Who knows if there would be another great italian leading the country and you could be a top country rivalrying with the germans, british and french... We were both huge empires, why can't we be big again ? :)
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 28 de Abril de 2014, 10:26
Citação de: Festivus em 26 de Abril de 2014, 18:40
JUVENTINO, what places have you visited in Italy? And which ones do you recommend?
I have visited almost all of Italy and every place deserves to be visited.
Italy is beautiful all ... the problem is that some Italians do not go well. ;D
Last summer I went on holiday in Umbria, beautiful.
We recommend viewing the cascaded Marmore and also visit Assisi (where you can find it at the same time, religion and paganism - hundreds of stores and churches are "Time" among them -).
Italy is probably the country I like most to visit
Already went to some places.
2 years ago I did a road trip with my wife and it was absolutely divine!
The area of San Zeno di Montana and the area around (till Verona) it´s fantastic
Did all the areas around the lake and it was awsome
Regarding the game, will you play today with your main 11?
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 17:56
the celebrations to goals of tele / radio commentators are similar to those in Brazil?
Or is this more a characteristic of South American in general?
Of course we have celebrations similar to those in Brazil, since they have our blood in their veins :) We have hot latin blood, like you italians. We are always very emotive.
Just watch this and let me know what you think:
http://vimeo.com/65473409
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 17:42
Do you feel, in some way, related to Brazil?
Yes of course. The brazilians are the people that we identify more, because of our relations throughout more than 500 years. They are more alike the portuguese, than the spanish or any other nationality. Same customes, same kind of food and drink (even though there are a lot of differences between the european and south american type of food), same language, same religion, etc...
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 26 de Abril de 2014, 17:38
what is the difference between Portuguese and Brazilian Portuguese?
iis only a difference of idioms or grammar right?
for me it's like spanish in Spain and in the rest of south american. And also maybe (not so much) as english of Britain and America, which have a lot of different words like taxi/cab, underground/subway, biscuit/cookie, etc.
The grammar is the same, but they use it differently. More like the spanish use it. I feel that we kinda of evolve the portuguese in Portugal, and they stand still in time. They use words and expressions that we used in the 19th century. They apply portuguese reflexive verbs like we used to apply some centuries ago, more alike the castillan. Example: Eu chamo-me CitriC. and they say Eu me chamo CitriC, like the spanish yo me llamo CitriC and italian Io mi chiamo CitriC.
The slang has really changed, like Festivus said. and there are words that I can't understand in portuguese of brazil
Usually people say they have to learn a new language but that's overexaggerating ! I went to Brazil and I could communicate perfectly with locals, from the litoral or interior, and the same thing goes to brazilians that come to Portugal. We just have to get used to the different accent and different way of saying things.
Juventino, what do you think about the movie "Respiro"? I've seen that movie a couple of times, and it strikes me all the time. The landscapes are breathtaking, not to mention Valeria Golino, a trully beautiful woman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu6M7_KuOFQ
Probably my favorite movie. Italian.
1900.
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 28 de Abril de 2014, 13:28
Juventino, what do you think about the movie "Respiro"? I've seen that movie a couple of times, and it strikes me all the time. The landscapes are breathtaking, not to mention Valeria Golino, a trully beautiful woman.
I HAVE NOT SEEN THE MOVIE.
But, usually, the emerging Italian filmmakers when they have to "tell" the Sicily, the Calabria or Puglia (my region) exacerbate a culture (or subculture) too rooted in the past.
People change and also changes the way we live. We are children of our time and not grandchildren of yesteryear.
I must, however, admit that films like "Respiro", keeps the viewer glued to the screen.
But is not the reality of everyday life.
Citação de: Jotenko em 28 de Abril de 2014, 14:22
Probably my favorite movie. Italian.
1900.
yes it is a good movie.
I personally prefer "ROMANZO CRIMINALE"
There is talk of a criminal gang rather rooted in Rome 70/80.
Colluded with the Mafia and the Italian secret services.
In the film will reveal that several massacres (such as Bologna train station - 1980 -) or the political kidnapping of Aldo Moro (1978) have a weak boundary line between the state, mafia, against state (BRIGADE ROSSE) and common crime.
If we turn then to talk about the film "Funny", have you ever heard of the Italian couple Bud Spencer and Terence Hill?
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 28 de Abril de 2014, 14:53
If we turn then to talk about the film "Funny", have you ever heard of the Italian couple Bud Spencer and Terence Hill?
no but for me the best italian comedy film is la vitta è bella. Roberto Benigni is the best :bow2:
I really like cinema paradiso by the way
Citação de: CitriC em 28 de Abril de 2014, 14:57
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 28 de Abril de 2014, 14:53
If we turn then to talk about the film "Funny", have you ever heard of the Italian couple Bud Spencer and Terence Hill?
no but for me the best italian comedy film is la vitta è bella. Roberto Benigni is the best :bow2:
I really like cinema paradiso by the way
Ok, Benigni is a big one.
But, just the movie "la vita è bella" tells the story of Jewish tragedy and their deportation to concentration camps and even told, sometimes with veins comic ... the film makes you cry and reflect.
I was talking about funny movies (where there is no reference to the bloody past, though (perhaps) interpreted in some particular years
for you Elvis ... O0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMmljYkdr-w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMmljYkdr-w)
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 28 de Abril de 2014, 15:12
for you Elvis ... O0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMmljYkdr-w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMmljYkdr-w)
JUVENTINO, speaking philosophically, what do you think about most?
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 28 de Abril de 2014, 15:12
for you Elvis ... O0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMmljYkdr-w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMmljYkdr-w)
Thanks! :amigo:
Elvis, the king of Rock! :metal:
Citação de: Jotenko em 28 de Abril de 2014, 16:29
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 28 de Abril de 2014, 15:12
for you Elvis ... O0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMmljYkdr-w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMmljYkdr-w)
JUVENTINO, speaking philosophically, what do you think about most?
You mystify me, boy. :o
what you mean with this post? :confused:
You want me to talk about philosophy in general? :smokin:
or you want me to talk about the philosophy of "enlightened" by kant :coolsmiley:
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 28 de Abril de 2014, 17:14
Citação de: Jotenko em 28 de Abril de 2014, 16:29
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 28 de Abril de 2014, 15:12
for you Elvis ... O0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMmljYkdr-w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMmljYkdr-w)
JUVENTINO, speaking philosophically, what do you think about most?
You mystify me, boy. :o
what you mean with this post? :confused:
You want me to talk about philosophy in general? :smokin:
or you want me to talk about the philosophy of "enlightened" by kant :coolsmiley:
Philosophy in general. Human thinking. Creation, existence, whatever.
In Italy, I've only been in Milano like 4 years ago. I must confess that it was a little bit disgusting...
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 28 de Abril de 2014, 16:43
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 28 de Abril de 2014, 15:12
for you Elvis ... O0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMmljYkdr-w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMmljYkdr-w)
Thanks! :amigo:
Elvis, the king of Rock! :metal:
What do you think of this song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8JULmUlGDA&feature=kp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8JULmUlGDA&feature=kp)black soul and rock at the same time
Citação de: VivaoBenfica em 28 de Abril de 2014, 17:18
In Italy, I've only been in Milano like 4 years ago. I must confess that it was a little bit disgusting...
Italy, is not Milan
you have to go in provincial cities to discover the real Italy
Citação de: Jotenko em 28 de Abril de 2014, 17:17
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 28 de Abril de 2014, 17:14
Citação de: Jotenko em 28 de Abril de 2014, 16:29
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 28 de Abril de 2014, 15:12
for you Elvis ... O0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMmljYkdr-w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMmljYkdr-w)
JUVENTINO, speaking philosophically, what do you think about most?
You mystify me, boy. :o
what you mean with this post? :confused:
You want me to talk about philosophy in general? :smokin:
or you want me to talk about the philosophy of "enlightened" by kant :coolsmiley:
Philosophy in general. Human thinking. Creation, existence, whatever.
;D
Jotenko trademark
Citação de: Jotenko em 28 de Abril de 2014, 17:17
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 28 de Abril de 2014, 17:14
Citação de: Jotenko em 28 de Abril de 2014, 16:29
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 28 de Abril de 2014, 15:12
for you Elvis ... O0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMmljYkdr-w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMmljYkdr-w)
JUVENTINO, speaking philosophically, what do you think about most?
You mystify me, boy. :o
what you mean with this post? :confused:
You want me to talk about philosophy in general? :smokin:
or you want me to talk about the philosophy of "enlightened" by kant :coolsmiley:
Philosophy in general. Human thinking. Creation, existence, whatever.
okay.
the evil and the good that comes from a sperm finds home in a pussy.
ok, joke. :2funny:
If one day we meet, we'll talk. Before the meeting, that is what I wrote at the beginning of this post
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 28 de Abril de 2014, 17:26
Citação de: Jotenko em 28 de Abril de 2014, 17:17
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 28 de Abril de 2014, 17:14
Citação de: Jotenko em 28 de Abril de 2014, 16:29
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 28 de Abril de 2014, 15:12
for you Elvis ... O0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMmljYkdr-w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMmljYkdr-w)
JUVENTINO, speaking philosophically, what do you think about most?
You mystify me, boy. :o
what you mean with this post? :confused:
You want me to talk about philosophy in general? :smokin:
or you want me to talk about the philosophy of "enlightened" by kant :coolsmiley:
Philosophy in general. Human thinking. Creation, existence, whatever.
okay.
the evil and the good that comes from a sperm finds home in a pussy.
ok, joke. :2funny:
If one day we meet, we'll talk. Before the meeting, that is what I wrote at the beginning of this post
What do you think about, anyway?
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 28 de Abril de 2014, 17:22
Citação de: VivaoBenfica em 28 de Abril de 2014, 17:18
In Italy, I've only been in Milano like 4 years ago. I must confess that it was a little bit disgusting...
Italy, is not Milan
you have to go in provincial cities to discover the real Italy
Obviously, and I'm sure that I'll be back to visit that "real Italy"... Maybe next month, to see Benfica playing at the UEFA Europa League final :smokin:
Italy is a beautiful country, the home of Renascentism. One of my dreams, is to visit the country from north to south, and the islands, by train or by car. Maybe you, Juventino, can be my guide, when i decide to visit your country. ;D
Berlusconi said that, according to germans, Holocaust didn't exist.
http://diariodigital.sapo.pt/news.asp?id_news=698544
:2funny:
Citação de: Jotenko em 28 de Abril de 2014, 18:01
Berlusconi said that, according to germans, Holocaust didn't exist.
http://diariodigital.sapo.pt/news.asp?id_news=698544
:2funny:
Didn't he once call a German politician a "Nazi" at the EU parliament? It was a decade ago or almost, if I recall correctly.
EDIT: Oh wait, nevermind. The article you've posted mentions it.
Strange guy, Berlusconi.
Citação de: Festivus em 28 de Abril de 2014, 18:14
Citação de: Jotenko em 28 de Abril de 2014, 18:01
Berlusconi said that, according to germans, Holocaust didn't exist.
http://diariodigital.sapo.pt/news.asp?id_news=698544
:2funny:
Didn't he once call a German politician a "Nazi" at the EU parliament? It was a decade ago or almost, if I recall correctly.
EDIT: Oh wait, nevermind. The article you've posted mentions it.
Strange guy, Berlusconi.
Berlusconi is quite simply the best.
Citação de: Jotenko em 28 de Abril de 2014, 18:16
Citação de: Festivus em 28 de Abril de 2014, 18:14
Citação de: Jotenko em 28 de Abril de 2014, 18:01
Berlusconi said that, according to germans, Holocaust didn't exist.
http://diariodigital.sapo.pt/news.asp?id_news=698544
:2funny:
Didn't he once call a German politician a "Nazi" at the EU parliament? It was a decade ago or almost, if I recall correctly.
EDIT: Oh wait, nevermind. The article you've posted mentions it.
Strange guy, Berlusconi.
Berlusconi is quite simply the best.
Can't deny he's entertaining, indeed. If only Varg Vikernes became PM of Norway someday. Then he'd give Silvio a run for his money!
Forza, Sassuolo!
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 28 de Abril de 2014, 17:26
Citação de: Jotenko em 28 de Abril de 2014, 17:17
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 28 de Abril de 2014, 17:14
Citação de: Jotenko em 28 de Abril de 2014, 16:29
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 28 de Abril de 2014, 15:12
for you Elvis ... O0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMmljYkdr-w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMmljYkdr-w)
JUVENTINO, speaking philosophically, what do you think about most?
You mystify me, boy. :o
what you mean with this post? :confused:
You want me to talk about philosophy in general? :smokin:
or you want me to talk about the philosophy of "enlightened" by kant :coolsmiley:
Philosophy in general. Human thinking. Creation, existence, whatever.
okay.
the evil and the good that comes from a sperm finds home in a pussy.
ok, joke. :2funny:
If one day we meet, we'll talk. Before the meeting, that is what I wrote at the beginning of this post
jotenko's soulmate!
Official line up for tonight:
Juventus (3-5-2): Buffon; Barzagli, Ogbonna, Chiellini; Isla, Pogba, Pirlo, Marchisio, Asamoah; Tevez, Llorente
Citação de: Jotenko em 26 de Abril de 2014, 22:35
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/27/vejusaqe.jpg)
Watching Masterchef Portugal.
Enviado do meu C2005 através de Tapatalk
wtf????? :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
jotenko :bow2:
Thanks for the support.
will watch your match
hope you guys run a lot tonight ^-^
Dont worry, Sassuolo is Serie A worst team
I hope Juve underestimates us.
That will be a huge help.
Juventus = Corruption.
Juventus ask uefa for a punishment to enzo perez? WTF?
To clarify what's going on, portuguese newspapers are reporting that Juventus asked for Enzo Pérez to be out of the second leg and UEFA, in an unprecedented decision, called a meeting to decide this tomorrow, less than 24 hours after Benfica was notified of the situation.
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La Juventus ha richiesto la prova TV per la squalifica di Enzo.
E con questa "cortesia", ha messo ora tutti i tiffosi del Benfica contro di loro.
Mi auguro che le 2 squadre possano giocare con tutti i suoi migliori giocatori. Enzo è molto importante per noi.
juventus = scum
uefa = scum
fuck you both, pieces of shit.
Ahahahhahahaha
Chiellini figlio di puttana
Rubentus = Mafia
Pau no cú da Juventus. Até com -1 vos comemos seus cabrões corruptos! Espero que jogue o Enzo
Juventus a ser Juventus. Mafiosos.
Ainda bem que agora já se pode dizer AQUI, que são mafiosos.
Como diz o Cota: Juventude Mafiosa!
Definitely a low blow, and a desperate attempt by Juventus to find some leverage, any leverage, for the 2nd match.
UEFA is doing Juventus a favour and anticipated any decision regarding this subject. this is just UEFA being what it is.. a very suspicious organisation.
I wonder if Benfica is also free to complain from the incidences of the 1st match. Chielini commits a foul over Enzo Perez, and puts an elbow in Maxi Pereira's face. Pogba was forgiven some yellow cards and there was a clear penalty after Cáceres knocked down Enzo inside Juventus box.
Anyway.. this story sucks. Why shouldn't Benfica be able to play next match in its full potential?
U affraid Juventus? (playing home, having Platini rooting for you and all..)
Extremely dirty move. As expected...
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 11:30
Extremely dirty move. As expected...
Gladly we play in the same country as Porto for years and years now. :-)
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 11:43
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 11:30
Extremely dirty move. As expected...
Gladly we play in the same country as Porto for years and years now. :-)
Do you think it excuses Juventus?
Porque é q está tudo a falar em inglês? Adeptos da juventude corrupta com vergonha na cara não põem cá mais os pés!
Citação de: supersueca em 29 de Abril de 2014, 11:53
Porque é q está tudo a falar em inglês? Adeptos da juventude corrupta com vergonha na cara não põem cá mais os pés!
(https://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/10155975_363213843819311_3845014916825034499_n.jpg)
Vergonha é uma cena que não lhes assiste...
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 11:48
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 11:43
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 11:30
Extremely dirty move. As expected...
Gladly we play in the same country as Porto for years and years now. :-)
Do you think it excuses Juventus?
I am just saying that we're already familiar with these moves.
Low blow if true, gloves come off and lead with the head.
I'm sorry for Juventino, who appears to be a good guy, but this is an extremely dirty move by Juventus/UEFA. It's very sad, but doesn't surprise me.
I'm waiting for what JUVENTINO has to say.
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 12:17
I'm waiting for what JUVENTINO has to say.
He's clearly ashamed and embarrassed. Don't think he returns here in the next couple of days.
Same old Juventus, it's like 20 years that they're irrelevant in European Cups, they're frustrated
Once a cheater, always a cheater.
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(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6_uVcWoTL4Y/Upumj6kvPsI/AAAAAAABeYU/PpBGmZYcuZw/s400/CHIELLINI.jpg)
:confused:
https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/t1.0-9/s403x403/1899910_10151992002692918_1509118756_n.jpg
https://www.facebook.com/306067132917/photos/a.333526687917.151671.306067132917/10151992002692918/?type=1&relevant_count=1
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cvzJ8y5eL_k/U1-CRxinRuI/AAAAAAAACX4/EobY19iTSZU/s1600/14058181822_ac5d467d08_o.gif)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HexmjCIzdzY
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 12:55
(http://www.ilbrigante.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/il_bastardo_chiellini.jpg)
(http://img.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/binary/51.$plit/C_27_articolo_100884_listaparagrafi_itemParagrafo_0_immaginecorpo.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6_uVcWoTL4Y/Upumj6kvPsI/AAAAAAABeYU/PpBGmZYcuZw/s400/CHIELLINI.jpg)
Oh.. "that" Chielini..
Surely a nice and truthful guy, with lots of fairplay.. Just like Juventus in this situation.
italianos serão sempre italianos
Here's a new idea for Juventus and it's board, try to play better football and win on the picth. But I guess once you get used to winning off the pitch this kind of dirty tricks become the dafault reaction to adversity.
Citação de: sazuke em 29 de Abril de 2014, 13:59
italianos serão sempre italianos
It's about Rubentus, not Italy
Waiting to see how Juve fans react here...
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:07
Citação de: sazuke em 29 de Abril de 2014, 13:59
italianos serão sempre italianos
It's about Rubentus, not Italy
2500 anos de história não enganam
Citação de: sazuke em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:22
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:07
Citação de: sazuke em 29 de Abril de 2014, 13:59
italianos serão sempre italianos
It's about Rubentus, not Italy
2500 anos de história não enganam
Sem necessidade destes posts sazuke... Destas generalizações.
Filhos da put* corruptos de merda a UEFA e a Juventus nem disfarçam
Juventus is such disgusting team, I can hate them as much as Porto.
But we'll win. We're a unique team that can fight anything, even corruption.
Be italian....
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:20
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:07
Citação de: sazuke em 29 de Abril de 2014, 13:59
italianos serão sempre italianos
It's about Rubentus, not Italy
Yep. Who do you support?
Inter.
I never seen AC Milan,Inter,Roma or Napoli doing this kind of things like try to disqualify other teams players
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:33
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:20
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:07
Citação de: sazuke em 29 de Abril de 2014, 13:59
italianos serão sempre italianos
It's about Rubentus, not Italy
Yep. Who do you support?
Inter.
I never seen AC Milan,Inter,Roma or Napoli doing this kind of things like try to disqualify other teams players
Inter is one of my favorite clubs since I was a kid. I remember playing Championship Manager 2001/02, always choosing Inter.
We used to have great players, now italian football it's pretty much mediocre.
To me the best team right now is Roma, not Juventus.
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:37
We used to have great players, now italian football it's pretty much mediocre.
To me the best team right now is Roma, not Juventus.
Why do you want Juventus to lose? And do you think Juventus will lose eventually? How do you think the refereeing will be?
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:38
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:37
We used to have great players, now italian football it's pretty much mediocre.
To me the best team right now is Roma, not Juventus.
Why do you want Juventus to lose? And do you think Juventus will lose eventually? How do you think the refereeing will be?
Why? In Italy everybody hate Juventus except Juventus fans...all the other fans are supporting Benfica right now.
I think that the game will not be more difficult than Tottenham-Benfica, if you repeat that kind of game you're ok, the referee is Clattenburg(british)
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:42
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:38
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:37
We used to have great players, now italian football it's pretty much mediocre.
To me the best team right now is Roma, not Juventus.
Why do you want Juventus to lose? And do you think Juventus will lose eventually? How do you think the refereeing will be?
Why? In Italy everybody hate Juventus except Juventus fans...all the other fans are supporting Benfica right now.
I think that the game will not be more difficult than Tottenham-Benfica, if you repeat that kind of game you're ok, the referee is Clattenburg(british)
Well grazie for the support. 8)
Tapatalk e coiso
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:42
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:38
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:37
We used to have great players, now italian football it's pretty much mediocre.
To me the best team right now is Roma, not Juventus.
Why do you want Juventus to lose? And do you think Juventus will lose eventually? How do you think the refereeing will be?
Why? In Italy everybody hate Juventus except Juventus fans...all the other fans are supporting Benfica right now.
I think that the game will not be more difficult than Tottenham-Benfica, if you repeat that kind of game you're ok, the referee is Clattenburg(british)
And what about Inter. You have been passing badly this last few years.
You had a great team but the renovation was poor.
As a fan, what do you expect for next season?
what kind of players do you, Inter supporters, expect?
And manager?
perez was the man of the match for first game exactly. good choice from platini
wonderfull news.
Taken from a Juve forum. This can't be real. :2funny:
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:46
perez was the man of the match for first game exactly. good choice from platini
wonderfull news.
Taken from a Juve forum. This can't be real. :2funny:
At least they admit it unlike porto fans...
Tapatalk e coiso
Citação de: cavpacores em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:46
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:42
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:38
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:37
We used to have great players, now italian football it's pretty much mediocre.
To me the best team right now is Roma, not Juventus.
Why do you want Juventus to lose? And do you think Juventus will lose eventually? How do you think the refereeing will be?
Why? In Italy everybody hate Juventus except Juventus fans...all the other fans are supporting Benfica right now.
I think that the game will not be more difficult than Tottenham-Benfica, if you repeat that kind of game you're ok, the referee is Clattenburg(british)
And what about Inter. You have been passing badly this last few years.
You had a great team but the renovation was poor.
As a fan, what do you expect for next season?
what kind of players do you, Inter supporters, expect?
And manager?
There are money problems, the club has debts but now we have a new Indonesian owner with more money.
Also we buy too many players from Porto, Alvaro Pereira was a disgrace, Guarin is overrated
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:42
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:38
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:37
We used to have great players, now italian football it's pretty much mediocre.
To me the best team right now is Roma, not Juventus.
Why do you want Juventus to lose? And do you think Juventus will lose eventually? How do you think the refereeing will be?
Why? In Italy everybody hate Juventus except Juventus fans...all the other fans are supporting Benfica right now.
I think that the game will not be more difficult than Tottenham-Benfica, if you repeat that kind of game you're ok, the referee is Clattenburg(british)
Good to Know O0
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:50
Citação de: cavpacores em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:46
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:42
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:38
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:37
We used to have great players, now italian football it's pretty much mediocre.
To me the best team right now is Roma, not Juventus.
Why do you want Juventus to lose? And do you think Juventus will lose eventually? How do you think the refereeing will be?
Why? In Italy everybody hate Juventus except Juventus fans...all the other fans are supporting Benfica right now.
I think that the game will not be more difficult than Tottenham-Benfica, if you repeat that kind of game you're ok, the referee is Clattenburg(british)
And what about Inter. You have been passing badly this last few years.
You had a great team but the renovation was poor.
As a fan, what do you expect for next season?
what kind of players do you, Inter supporters, expect?
And manager?
There are money problems, the club has debts but now we have a new Indonesian owner with more money.
Also we buy too many players from Porto, Alvaro Pereira was a disgrace, Guarin is overrated
In porto anyone could be a star, its easier, but when they go out we really see if there are so good or not. And usualy they aren't.
Citação de: João Norte em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:54
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:50
Citação de: cavpacores em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:46
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:42
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:38
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:37
We used to have great players, now italian football it's pretty much mediocre.
To me the best team right now is Roma, not Juventus.
Why do you want Juventus to lose? And do you think Juventus will lose eventually? How do you think the refereeing will be?
Why? In Italy everybody hate Juventus except Juventus fans...all the other fans are supporting Benfica right now.
I think that the game will not be more difficult than Tottenham-Benfica, if you repeat that kind of game you're ok, the referee is Clattenburg(british)
And what about Inter. You have been passing badly this last few years.
You had a great team but the renovation was poor.
As a fan, what do you expect for next season?
what kind of players do you, Inter supporters, expect?
And manager?
There are money problems, the club has debts but now we have a new Indonesian owner with more money.
Also we buy too many players from Porto, Alvaro Pereira was a disgrace, Guarin is overrated
In porto anyone could be a star, its easier, but when they go out we really see if there are so good or not. And usualy they aren't.
I forgot the worst one, Quaresma....20 million for performance di merda
Only decent is Rolando that seems a good defender
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:56
Citação de: João Norte em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:54
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:50
Citação de: cavpacores em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:46
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:42
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:38
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:37
We used to have great players, now italian football it's pretty much mediocre.
To me the best team right now is Roma, not Juventus.
Why do you want Juventus to lose? And do you think Juventus will lose eventually? How do you think the refereeing will be?
Why? In Italy everybody hate Juventus except Juventus fans...all the other fans are supporting Benfica right now.
I think that the game will not be more difficult than Tottenham-Benfica, if you repeat that kind of game you're ok, the referee is Clattenburg(british)
And what about Inter. You have been passing badly this last few years.
You had a great team but the renovation was poor.
As a fan, what do you expect for next season?
what kind of players do you, Inter supporters, expect?
And manager?
There are money problems, the club has debts but now we have a new Indonesian owner with more money.
Also we buy too many players from Porto, Alvaro Pereira was a disgrace, Guarin is overrated
In porto anyone could be a star, its easier, but when they go out we really see if there are so good or not. And usualy they aren't.
I forgot the worst one, Quaresma....20 million for performance di merda
Only decent is Rolando that seems a good defender
I really think you have to start all over again with your squad
Year 0 and continue to build up
You really need to find a proper manager to a long term project and to buy 2º line players and not decadent stars
Those 2º line players obviously, need to have the proper value
I'm really interested to hear JUVENTINO or any other Juventus fan here at the forum.
Their attitude is despicable and it goes to show that they're probably scared to face us. So scared that they're trying to mangle our game and playstyle to make it easier for them.
Citação de: cavpacores em 29 de Abril de 2014, 15:00
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:56
Citação de: João Norte em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:54
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:50
Citação de: cavpacores em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:46
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:42
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:38
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:37
We used to have great players, now italian football it's pretty much mediocre.
To me the best team right now is Roma, not Juventus.
Why do you want Juventus to lose? And do you think Juventus will lose eventually? How do you think the refereeing will be?
Why? In Italy everybody hate Juventus except Juventus fans...all the other fans are supporting Benfica right now.
I think that the game will not be more difficult than Tottenham-Benfica, if you repeat that kind of game you're ok, the referee is Clattenburg(british)
And what about Inter. You have been passing badly this last few years.
You had a great team but the renovation was poor.
As a fan, what do you expect for next season?
what kind of players do you, Inter supporters, expect?
And manager?
There are money problems, the club has debts but now we have a new Indonesian owner with more money.
Also we buy too many players from Porto, Alvaro Pereira was a disgrace, Guarin is overrated
In porto anyone could be a star, its easier, but when they go out we really see if there are so good or not. And usualy they aren't.
I forgot the worst one, Quaresma....20 million for performance di merda
Only decent is Rolando that seems a good defender
I really think you have to start all over again with your squad
Year 0 and continue to build up
You really need to find a proper manager to a long term project and to buy 2º line players and not decadent stars
Those 2º line players obviously, need to have the proper value
As I said, there is a new owner with a good plan, he already bought Hernanes and Vidic, and we're close to other players.
The coach is Mazzarri, nothing special but the club support him
I've always been respectful here
but trying to disqualify other teams players is a really dirty move
nothing against our guests, but I'd personally be ashamed of my own club if we did that
sorry but you support a club of cowards, Juve is nothing more than just a small club, afraid to try to win on the pitch
Juve it's just like FC Porto who tries to win by all means necessary, and uses all dirty tricks to do so
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:56
Citação de: João Norte em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:54
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:50
Citação de: cavpacores em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:46
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:42
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:38
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 14:37
We used to have great players, now italian football it's pretty much mediocre.
To me the best team right now is Roma, not Juventus.
Why do you want Juventus to lose? And do you think Juventus will lose eventually? How do you think the refereeing will be?
Why? In Italy everybody hate Juventus except Juventus fans...all the other fans are supporting Benfica right now.
I think that the game will not be more difficult than Tottenham-Benfica, if you repeat that kind of game you're ok, the referee is Clattenburg(british)
And what about Inter. You have been passing badly this last few years.
You had a great team but the renovation was poor.
As a fan, what do you expect for next season?
what kind of players do you, Inter supporters, expect?
And manager?
There are money problems, the club has debts but now we have a new Indonesian owner with more money.
Also we buy too many players from Porto, Alvaro Pereira was a disgrace, Guarin is overrated
In porto anyone could be a star, its easier, but when they go out we really see if there are so good or not. And usualy they aren't.
I forgot the worst one, Quaresma....20 million for performance di merda
Only decent is Rolando that seems a good defender
Rolando is a decent player, but not a very good one. You deserve better.
There is an obvious lack of fair play in this action from Juventus..
This is a sad and tricky attempt from Juventus to gain some leverage out of the football pitch.
Who ever plays better will advance to the final.. no tricks needed.
Someone knows Icardi here?
Very very good young striker
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 15:27
Someone knows Icardi here?
Very very good young striker
yes
seems to have what it´s necessary to become a world class player
but I really admire your keeper
Oblak, ours, it´s is sucessor in the national team, I suppose
Forza nerazurri!
Citação de: cavpacores em 29 de Abril de 2014, 15:37
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 15:27
Someone knows Icardi here?
Very very good young striker
yes
seems to have what it´s necessary to become a world class player
but I really admire your keeper
Oblak, ours, it´s is sucessor in the national team, I suppose
Yes, Handanovic is a great GK and Oblak too....I dont like Artur very much if I have to be honest
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 15:45
Citação de: cavpacores em 29 de Abril de 2014, 15:37
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 15:27
Someone knows Icardi here?
Very very good young striker
yes
seems to have what it´s necessary to become a world class player
but I really admire your keeper
Oblak, ours, it´s is sucessor in the national team, I suppose
Yes, Handanovic is a great GK and Oblak too....I dont like Artur very much if I have to be honest
We dont like him much either.
Tapatalk e coiso
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 15:45
Citação de: cavpacores em 29 de Abril de 2014, 15:37
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 15:27
Someone knows Icardi here?
Very very good young striker
yes
seems to have what it´s necessary to become a world class player
but I really admire your keeper
Oblak, ours, it´s is sucessor in the national team, I suppose
Yes, Handanovic is a great GK and Oblak too....I dont like Artur very much if I have to be honest
don't worry, we don't like Artur all that much either ;D
(http://calciomercato-juve.it/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Sfott%C3%B2-Juventus.jpg)
:2funny:
(http://www.sonointerista.it/media/galeria/64/2/6/7/4/n_inter_anti_juve-4964762.jpg)
VECCHIA LADRONA!!!!!!!!!
Hello to all. I am a proud supporter of Torino, who had the good fortune to choose good instead of evil (Juventus). I would like to thank all the fans of Benfica, for the wonderful banner raised in honor of the Grande Torino. I would like to congratulate you for having written in correct Italian, better than that of Juventus fans, the most ignorant of Italy! Needless to say, May 1st my heart will beat for Benfica. For 90 minutes Benfica wear the colors of my team! You will be the good that fights evil. "May the best win" (Benfica) :bandeiraslb2:
Poor JUVENTINO... What will he say when he comes back? He looks like a good fella.
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:08
Hello to all. I am a proud supporter of Torino, who had the good fortune to choose good instead of evil (Juventus). I would like to thank all the fans of Benfica, for the wonderful banner raised in honor of the Grande Torino. I would like to congratulate you for having written in correct Italian, better than that of Juventus fans, the most ignorant of Italy! Needless to say, May 1st my heart will beat for Benfica. For 90 minutes Benfica wear the colors of my team! You will be the good that fights evil. "May the best win" (Benfica) :bandeiraslb2:
Welcome, GreatTorino.
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:08
Hello to all. I am a proud supporter of Torino, who had the good fortune to choose good instead of evil (Juventus). I would like to thank all the fans of Benfica, for the wonderful banner raised in honor of the Grande Torino. I would like to congratulate you for having written in correct Italian, better than that of Juventus fans, the most ignorant of Italy! Needless to say, May 1st my heart will beat for Benfica. For 90 minutes Benfica wear the colors of my team! You will be the good that fights evil. "May the best win" (Benfica) :bandeiraslb2:
Welcome here, our home is your home.
Did you know Juventus wants Uefa to punish Benfica for showing that banner? They considered it disrespectful for them... Oh, well...
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2e/Torino_FC_Logo.svg/500px-Torino_FC_Logo.svg.png)
:metal:
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:08
Hello to all. I am a proud supporter of Torino, who had the good fortune to choose good instead of evil (Juventus). I would like to thank all the fans of Benfica, for the wonderful banner raised in honor of the Grande Torino. I would like to congratulate you for having written in correct Italian, better than that of Juventus fans, the most ignorant of Italy! Needless to say, May 1st my heart will beat for Benfica. For 90 minutes Benfica wear the colors of my team! You will be the good that fights evil. "May the best win" (Benfica) :bandeiraslb2:
welcome :)
unfortunatelly our chances against Juve are not that great
they're affraid and so they're already trying to disqualify our players, I'm affraid we won't have a team to play on thursday if this keeps up
Juve and Platini are a bunch of cowards and corrupts
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 29 de Abril de 2014, 12:16
I'm sorry for Juventino, who appears to be a good guy, but this is an extremely dirty move by Juventus/UEFA. It's very sad, but doesn't surprise me.
guys, what can I say to you ... :confused:
I'm not juve
I'm just a fan of Juventus
I hope that UEFA does not accept the request
also because, with all due respect to Enzo, we're not talking about CR7.
And even in that case, it would have been a little forced the request of Juve.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:18
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 29 de Abril de 2014, 12:16
I'm sorry for Juventino, who appears to be a good guy, but this is an extremely dirty move by Juventus/UEFA. It's very sad, but doesn't surprise me.
guys, what can I say to you ... :confused:
I'm not juve
I'm just a fan of Juventus
I hope that UEFA does not accept the request
also because, with all due respect to Enzo, we're not talking about CR7.
And even in that case, it would have been a little forced the request of Juve.
You're not Juve?
So, if Juve loses a match or a final how do you feel? Do you stop eating or sleeping?
You shouldnt be so scared.
Juventus is a good team but it's not Bayern or Real Madrid even if their fans think they are because they always say "We are Juventus, what is Benfica" and they dont realize that they got 2 Champions like you
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:20
You shouldnt be so scared.
Juventus is a good team but it's not Bayern or Real Madrid even if their fans think they are because they always say "We are Juventus, what is Benfica" and they dont realize that they got 2 Champions like you
We are BENFICA. THIS http://youtu.be/oWA3aWdKNKY?t=2m13s
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:18
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 29 de Abril de 2014, 12:16
I'm sorry for Juventino, who appears to be a good guy, but this is an extremely dirty move by Juventus/UEFA. It's very sad, but doesn't surprise me.
guys, what can I say to you ... :confused:
I'm not juve
I'm just a fan of Juventus
I hope that UEFA does not accept the request
also because, with all due respect to Enzo, we're not talking about CR7.
And even in that case, it would have been a little forced the request of Juve.
nothing against you man ;)
but I'm sure you understand, if it was Benfica trying to disqualify Juve players I'm sure you wouldn't be happy about it
I personally would be ashamed of my own club if we did that... complete lack of fair play and I dislike the use of dirty tricks to try to win by all means necessary
What do u think of Bardi , for the nerazurri fan.
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:14
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:08
Hello to all. I am a proud supporter of Torino, who had the good fortune to choose good instead of evil (Juventus). I would like to thank all the fans of Benfica, for the wonderful banner raised in honor of the Grande Torino. I would like to congratulate you for having written in correct Italian, better than that of Juventus fans, the most ignorant of Italy! Needless to say, May 1st my heart will beat for Benfica. For 90 minutes Benfica wear the colors of my team! You will be the good that fights evil. "May the best win" (Benfica) :bandeiraslb2:
Welcome here, our home is your home.
Did you know Juventus wants Uefa to punish Benfica for showing that banner? They considered it disrespectful for them... Oh, well...
What you have done, showing the world that wonderful banner, you did great honor, we Torino we moved, you have done us a great gift! Never forget it, you are our brothers. UEFA fines can never erase that gesture of respect! The honor is more important than the rest. You'll have to fight against the UEFA Platini, who in the interests of juventus (he gave the final a stadium of shit)
Citação de: kneissl em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:25
What do u think of Bardi , for the nerazurri fan.
Good talent, but not ready to replace Handa if you ask me
I think they're angry 'cause of this
(https://scontent-b-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/10155975_363213843819311_3845014916825034499_n.jpg)
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:27
Citação de: kneissl em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:25
What do u think of Bardi , for the nerazurri fan.
Good talent, but not ready to replace Handa if you ask me
And Scuffet? Only 18yrs and already a starter for Udine?
Citação de: kneissl em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:28
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:27
Citação de: kneissl em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:25
What do u think of Bardi , for the nerazurri fan.
Good talent, but not ready to replace Handa if you ask me
And Scuffet? Only 18yrs and already a starter for Udine?
Scuffet did great this season but Udinese is like a little Benfica or a little Porto, they sell their talents for a lot of cash
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:26
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:14
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:08
Hello to all. I am a proud supporter of Torino, who had the good fortune to choose good instead of evil (Juventus). I would like to thank all the fans of Benfica, for the wonderful banner raised in honor of the Grande Torino. I would like to congratulate you for having written in correct Italian, better than that of Juventus fans, the most ignorant of Italy! Needless to say, May 1st my heart will beat for Benfica. For 90 minutes Benfica wear the colors of my team! You will be the good that fights evil. "May the best win" (Benfica) :bandeiraslb2:
Welcome here, our home is your home.
Did you know Juventus wants Uefa to punish Benfica for showing that banner? They considered it disrespectful for them... Oh, well...
What you have done, showing the world that wonderful banner, you did great honor, we Torino we moved, you have done us a great gift! Never forget it, you are our brothers. UEFA fines can never erase that gesture of respect! The honor is more important than the rest. You'll have to fight against the UEFA Platini, who in the interests of juventus (he gave the final a stadium of shit)
I fell we are still in debt. I hope one day we can invite to a Eusébio Cup and then show how much we appreciate you.
Sincerely hope you qualify for the next Europa League.
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:19
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:18
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 29 de Abril de 2014, 12:16
I'm sorry for Juventino, who appears to be a good guy, but this is an extremely dirty move by Juventus/UEFA. It's very sad, but doesn't surprise me.
guys, what can I say to you ... :confused:
I'm not juve
I'm just a fan of Juventus
I hope that UEFA does not accept the request
also because, with all due respect to Enzo, we're not talking about CR7.
And even in that case, it would have been a little forced the request of Juve.
You're not Juve?
So, if Juve loses a match or a final how do you feel? Do you stop eating or sleeping?
Jotenko ...
maybe my English has misled you ...
I meant to say that I am not a leader of juventus, but just a fan of the team ... if an officer kills his mother, I can not be guilty of it myself because of fan juventus.
Or not?
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:40
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:19
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:18
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 29 de Abril de 2014, 12:16
I'm sorry for Juventino, who appears to be a good guy, but this is an extremely dirty move by Juventus/UEFA. It's very sad, but doesn't surprise me.
guys, what can I say to you ... :confused:
I'm not juve
I'm just a fan of Juventus
I hope that UEFA does not accept the request
also because, with all due respect to Enzo, we're not talking about CR7.
And even in that case, it would have been a little forced the request of Juve.
You're not Juve?
So, if Juve loses a match or a final how do you feel? Do you stop eating or sleeping?
Jotenko ...
maybe my English has misled you ...
I meant to say that I am not a leader of juventus, but just a fan of the team ... if an officer kills his mother, I can not be guilty of it myself because of fan juventus.
Or not?
Answer my question please.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:18
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 29 de Abril de 2014, 12:16
I'm sorry for Juventino, who appears to be a good guy, but this is an extremely dirty move by Juventus/UEFA. It's very sad, but doesn't surprise me.
guys, what can I say to you ... :confused:
I'm not juve
I'm just a fan of Juventus
I hope that UEFA does not accept the request
also because, with all due respect to Enzo, we're not talking about CR7.
And even in that case, it would have been a little forced the request of Juve.
As i've said, nothing against you, but Juventus just showed that are afraid. And yes, Enzo is not CR7, but still is an Argentine internacional. He's a good player, and Juve/Conte knows it.
I hope that the best team wins in the pitch, hopefully Benfica.
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:08
Hello to all. I am a proud supporter of Torino, who had the good fortune to choose good instead of evil (Juventus). I would like to thank all the fans of Benfica, for the wonderful banner raised in honor of the Grande Torino. I would like to congratulate you for having written in correct Italian, better than that of Juventus fans, the most ignorant of Italy! Needless to say, May 1st my heart will beat for Benfica. For 90 minutes Benfica wear the colors of my team! You will be the good that fights evil. "May the best win" (Benfica) :bandeiraslb2:
Welcome! O0
Citação de: Red.Fever em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:24
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:18
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 29 de Abril de 2014, 12:16
I'm sorry for Juventino, who appears to be a good guy, but this is an extremely dirty move by Juventus/UEFA. It's very sad, but doesn't surprise me.
guys, what can I say to you ... :confused:
I'm not juve
I'm just a fan of Juventus
I hope that UEFA does not accept the request
also because, with all due respect to Enzo, we're not talking about CR7.
And even in that case, it would have been a little forced the request of Juve.
nothing against you man ;)
but I'm sure you understand, if it was Benfica trying to disqualify Juve players I'm sure you wouldn't be happy about it
I personally would be ashamed of my own club if we did that... complete lack of fair play and I dislike the use of dirty tricks to try to win by all means necessary
well if you read my post, I wrote to hope that UEFA does not accept the request.
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:40
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:40
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:19
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:18
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 29 de Abril de 2014, 12:16
I'm sorry for Juventino, who appears to be a good guy, but this is an extremely dirty move by Juventus/UEFA. It's very sad, but doesn't surprise me.
guys, what can I say to you ... :confused:
I'm not juve
I'm just a fan of Juventus
I hope that UEFA does not accept the request
also because, with all due respect to Enzo, we're not talking about CR7.
And even in that case, it would have been a little forced the request of Juve.
You're not Juve?
So, if Juve loses a match or a final how do you feel? Do you stop eating or sleeping?
Jotenko ...
maybe my English has misled you ...
I meant to say that I am not a leader of juventus, but just a fan of the team ... if an officer kills his mother, I can not be guilty of it myself because of fan juventus.
Or not?
Answer my question please.
but what should I answer?
Rest assured that if the juve wins or loses a game or a cup, the peaceful night sleep and appetite did not pass me.
Jotenko, what should I do ... I have to stop being leaders Juventus because juventus have asked to disqualify Enzo?
They definitely made a bullshit, but having said that I can not become a fan of Benfica (or turin or Inter) for this.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:50
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:40
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:40
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:19
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:18
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 29 de Abril de 2014, 12:16
I'm sorry for Juventino, who appears to be a good guy, but this is an extremely dirty move by Juventus/UEFA. It's very sad, but doesn't surprise me.
guys, what can I say to you ... :confused:
I'm not juve
I'm just a fan of Juventus
I hope that UEFA does not accept the request
also because, with all due respect to Enzo, we're not talking about CR7.
And even in that case, it would have been a little forced the request of Juve.
You're not Juve?
So, if Juve loses a match or a final how do you feel? Do you stop eating or sleeping?
Jotenko ...
maybe my English has misled you ...
I meant to say that I am not a leader of juventus, but just a fan of the team ... if an officer kills his mother, I can not be guilty of it myself because of fan juventus.
Or not?
Answer my question please.
but what should I answer?
Rest assured that if the juve wins or loses a game or a cup, the peaceful night sleep and appetite did not pass me.
Jotenko, what should I do ... I have to stop being leaders Juventus because juventus have asked to disqualify Enzo?
They definitely made a bullshit, but having said that I can not become a fan of Benfica (or turin or Inter) for this.
OK. I was just curious about your fanatism degree, don't worry. :-)
In all the stadiums Italian, when the opposing team steals, gets a chorus: "You are like the juventus, you are like Juventus!" Thieves is a synonym for juventus in Italy. Our newspapers are saying that juventus is the only team to represent Italy ... I do not want to be represented by thieves! They are like Berlusconi ... make it look ridiculous all Italy! I am sorry that the world may know only the rot of Italy. Fifty million Italians feel disgust for juventus.I hope with all my heart that Platini will hand over the cup final in Turin, it would be a great gift for us fans Torino.The UEFA Cup must go to Lisbon, in the home of Benfica!
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:43
Citação de: Red.Fever em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:24
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:18
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 29 de Abril de 2014, 12:16
I'm sorry for Juventino, who appears to be a good guy, but this is an extremely dirty move by Juventus/UEFA. It's very sad, but doesn't surprise me.
guys, what can I say to you ... :confused:
I'm not juve
I'm just a fan of Juventus
I hope that UEFA does not accept the request
also because, with all due respect to Enzo, we're not talking about CR7.
And even in that case, it would have been a little forced the request of Juve.
nothing against you man ;)
but I'm sure you understand, if it was Benfica trying to disqualify Juve players I'm sure you wouldn't be happy about it
I personally would be ashamed of my own club if we did that... complete lack of fair play and I dislike the use of dirty tricks to try to win by all means necessary
well if you read my post, I wrote to hope that UEFA does not accept the request.
yeah, I understood and I'm glad you think that way O0
we don't control what our clubs do, and don't take what we say about Juve personally
in a way I'm glad Vidal is going to play, because he's a great player and I like to watch good football
and it's not nice what Juve is trying to do with Enzo (one of our key players)
yeah, Enzo it's not CR7 but we also don't have a Bale or a Di Maria to take his place, we're not Real Madrid ;D
he's one of our key players.... Pogba for example, it's not a CR7 but he's important to Juve
anyway ...
I noticed (from yesterday to today) plus a large number of users who have posted in this topic.
I also read that they came to find fans of Torino and Inter and, of course wasted no time to denigrate the juve: favorite sport by the Italians.
Too bad that they wanted to pay homage to the topic only if there was to insult the juve ...
congratulations
(http://download.kataweb.it/mediaweb/image/brand_reptorino/2008/01/23/1201082650428_0010b71b.jpg)
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:55
In all the stadiums Italian, when the opposing team steals, gets a chorus: "You are like the juventus, you are like Juventus!" Thieves is a synonym for juventus in Italy. Our newspapers are saying that juventus is the only team to represent Italy ... I do not want to be represented by thieves! They are like Berlusconi ... make it look ridiculous all Italy! I am sorry that the world may know only the rot of Italy. Fifty million Italians feel disgust for juventus.I hope with all my heart that Platini will hand over the cup final in Turin, it would be a great gift for us fans Torino.The UEFA Cup must go to Lisbon, in the home of Benfica!
You're just a poor
the only argument that ask as your excuse for your failures is that the eternal juventus steals.
The juventus is the excuse of those who never wins.
How long you do not win a derby?
How long have not scored in a derby?
I'll answer: 19 years!
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:59
anyway ...
I noticed (from yesterday to today) plus a large number of users who have posted in this topic.
I also read that they came to find fans of Torino and Inter and, of course wasted no time to denigrate the juve: favorite sport by the Italians.
Too bad that they wanted to pay homage to the topic only if there was to insult the juve ...
congratulations
"Dear" Juventus, you were sent to Serie B, you had to finish in the Italian third division, and there you went because you have the power. Do everything possible to deny these facts always! The whole world knows you as thieves, you like to win in any way, and enjoy even if you do it by cheating. No one denigrates the juventus, stolen that has been certified by the Italian justice!
Juventino, let's just hope for a fair game and... may the best team win! (Benfica, I hope)
Greetings
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:11
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:59
anyway ...
I noticed (from yesterday to today) plus a large number of users who have posted in this topic.
I also read that they came to find fans of Torino and Inter and, of course wasted no time to denigrate the juve: favorite sport by the Italians.
Too bad that they wanted to pay homage to the topic only if there was to insult the juve ...
congratulations
"Dear" Juventus, you were sent to Serie B, you had to finish in the Italian third division, and there you went because you have the power. Do everything possible to deny these facts always! The whole world knows you as thieves, you like to win in any way, and enjoy even if you do it by cheating. No one denigrates the juventus, stolen that has been certified by the Italian justice!
Italian justice has not certified a shit.
before speaking, Go and read the documents sports and non-sports.
do not make the ignorant.
dear friends of benfica, fans of turin were at the stage of Lyon in support of their fans, and we know with what result.
If I were you, I would touch the balls and I would do a thousand exorcisms
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:18
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:11
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:59
anyway ...
I noticed (from yesterday to today) plus a large number of users who have posted in this topic.
I also read that they came to find fans of Torino and Inter and, of course wasted no time to denigrate the juve: favorite sport by the Italians.
Too bad that they wanted to pay homage to the topic only if there was to insult the juve ...
congratulations
"Dear" Juventus, you were sent to Serie B, you had to finish in the Italian third division, and there you went because you have the power. Do everything possible to deny these facts always! The whole world knows you as thieves, you like to win in any way, and enjoy even if you do it by cheating. No one denigrates the juventus, stolen that has been certified by the Italian justice!
Italian justice has not certified a shit.
before speaking, Go and read the documents sports and non-sports.
do not make the ignorant.
dear friends of benfica, fans of turin were at the stage of Lyon in support of their fans, and we know with what result.
If I were you, I would touch the balls and I would do a thousand exorcisms
What kind of fan are you, if you sleep and eat well after Juve loses a match?
Last year I spent a week without sleeping, let alone eating. I even considered quitting my job, home and girlfriend.
(http://cdn.record.xl.pt/storage/2014_4/ng0182B510-1697-4692-B921-8BA6A5CD7AF7.jpg)
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:25
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:18
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:11
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:59
anyway ...
I noticed (from yesterday to today) plus a large number of users who have posted in this topic.
I also read that they came to find fans of Torino and Inter and, of course wasted no time to denigrate the juve: favorite sport by the Italians.
Too bad that they wanted to pay homage to the topic only if there was to insult the juve ...
congratulations
"Dear" Juventus, you were sent to Serie B, you had to finish in the Italian third division, and there you went because you have the power. Do everything possible to deny these facts always! The whole world knows you as thieves, you like to win in any way, and enjoy even if you do it by cheating. No one denigrates the juventus, stolen that has been certified by the Italian justice!
Italian justice has not certified a shit.
before speaking, Go and read the documents sports and non-sports.
do not make the ignorant.
dear friends of benfica, fans of turin were at the stage of Lyon in support of their fans, and we know with what result.
If I were you, I would touch the balls and I would do a thousand exorcisms
What kind of fan are you, if you sleep and eat well after Juve loses a match?
Last year I spent a week without sleeping, let alone eating. I even considered quitting my job, home and girlfriend.
and but you're a special kind ...
I'm sure you would have quietly left your girlfriend for a nice muscular guy :kiss:
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:04
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:55
In all the stadiums Italian, when the opposing team steals, gets a chorus: "You are like the juventus, you are like Juventus!" Thieves is a synonym for juventus in Italy. Our newspapers are saying that juventus is the only team to represent Italy ... I do not want to be represented by thieves! They are like Berlusconi ... make it look ridiculous all Italy! I am sorry that the world may know only the rot of Italy. Fifty million Italians feel disgust for juventus.I hope with all my heart that Platini will hand over the cup final in Turin, it would be a great gift for us fans Torino.The UEFA Cup must go to Lisbon, in the home of Benfica!
You're just a poor
the only argument that ask as your excuse for your failures is that the eternal juventus steals.
The juventus is the excuse of those who never wins.
How long you do not win a derby?
How long have not scored in a derby?
I'll answer: 19 years!
How long you do not win a derby?
How long have not scored in a derby?
I answer, that there 19 years it stolen! Thieves!
The last two derbies have "won" with offside goal. If there was a slow-motion replays on the field you would play in the second division and without titoli.Il great coach Mourinho there has always beaten! Do you remember what he said to you there, "juventus zero titles" ;-)
GrandeTorino, is that your dog?
(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/205536_4444310499796_1801295551_n.jpg)
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:29
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:25
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:18
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:11
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:59
anyway ...
I noticed (from yesterday to today) plus a large number of users who have posted in this topic.
I also read that they came to find fans of Torino and Inter and, of course wasted no time to denigrate the juve: favorite sport by the Italians.
Too bad that they wanted to pay homage to the topic only if there was to insult the juve ...
congratulations
"Dear" Juventus, you were sent to Serie B, you had to finish in the Italian third division, and there you went because you have the power. Do everything possible to deny these facts always! The whole world knows you as thieves, you like to win in any way, and enjoy even if you do it by cheating. No one denigrates the juventus, stolen that has been certified by the Italian justice!
Italian justice has not certified a shit.
before speaking, Go and read the documents sports and non-sports.
do not make the ignorant.
dear friends of benfica, fans of turin were at the stage of Lyon in support of their fans, and we know with what result.
If I were you, I would touch the balls and I would do a thousand exorcisms
What kind of fan are you, if you sleep and eat well after Juve loses a match?
Last year I spent a week without sleeping, let alone eating. I even considered quitting my job, home and girlfriend.
and but you're a special kind ...
I'm sure you would have quietly left your girlfriend for a nice muscular guy :kiss:
I am not gay just because I love cats.
Of course not... You're straight although you appreciate attractive men.
I'm enjoying this discussion between you ;D
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:31
GrandeTorino, is that your dog?
(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/205536_4444310499796_1801295551_n.jpg)
The shit that's on the jersey of juve is ashamed, and then will need to take a shower. We fans of the Turin Juventus supporters call them shits, and we apologize to the shit, for comparison. :clap1:
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:30
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:04
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:55
In all the stadiums Italian, when the opposing team steals, gets a chorus: "You are like the juventus, you are like Juventus!" Thieves is a synonym for juventus in Italy. Our newspapers are saying that juventus is the only team to represent Italy ... I do not want to be represented by thieves! They are like Berlusconi ... make it look ridiculous all Italy! I am sorry that the world may know only the rot of Italy. Fifty million Italians feel disgust for juventus.I hope with all my heart that Platini will hand over the cup final in Turin, it would be a great gift for us fans Torino.The UEFA Cup must go to Lisbon, in the home of Benfica!
You're just a poor
the only argument that ask as your excuse for your failures is that the eternal juventus steals.
The juventus is the excuse of those who never wins.
How long you do not win a derby?
How long have not scored in a derby?
I'll answer: 19 years!
How long you do not win a derby?
How long have not scored in a derby?
I answer, that there 19 years it stolen! Thieves!
The last two derbies have "won" with offside goal. If there was a slow-motion replays on the field you would play in the second division and without titoli.Il great coach Mourinho there has always beaten! Do you remember what he said to you there, "juventus zero titles" ;-)
The great coach mourinho (that among the fans benfica is hated)
was referring more to rome and milan (he spoke of juve inappropriately, because in those years did not win shit).
ok, it was offside ... the fact remains that you do not win a derby and scored in a derby for 19 years.
But tell me one thing: in this league you have never won or tied with a few episodes you favor?
No? Liar!
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:43
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:30
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:04
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:55
In all the stadiums Italian, when the opposing team steals, gets a chorus: "You are like the juventus, you are like Juventus!" Thieves is a synonym for juventus in Italy. Our newspapers are saying that juventus is the only team to represent Italy ... I do not want to be represented by thieves! They are like Berlusconi ... make it look ridiculous all Italy! I am sorry that the world may know only the rot of Italy. Fifty million Italians feel disgust for juventus.I hope with all my heart that Platini will hand over the cup final in Turin, it would be a great gift for us fans Torino.The UEFA Cup must go to Lisbon, in the home of Benfica!
You're just a poor
the only argument that ask as your excuse for your failures is that the eternal juventus steals.
The juventus is the excuse of those who never wins.
How long you do not win a derby?
How long have not scored in a derby?
I'll answer: 19 years!
How long you do not win a derby?
How long have not scored in a derby?
I answer, that there 19 years it stolen! Thieves!
The last two derbies have "won" with offside goal. If there was a slow-motion replays on the field you would play in the second division and without titoli.Il great coach Mourinho there has always beaten! Do you remember what he said to you there, "juventus zero titles" ;-)
The great coach mourinho (that among the fans benfica is hated)
was referring more to rome and milan (he spoke of juve inappropriately, because in those years did not win shit).
ok, it was offside ... the fact remains that you do not win a derby and scored in a derby for 19 years.
But tell me one thing: in this league you have never won or tied with a few episodes you favor?
No? Liar!
To argue with a fan of Juventus must go down to his level, and the ways they are two. Or is imitating a monkey (you do not know that bananas are also eaten) or should I get a severe brain injury damage.
That is true, Torino is in this state, not because Juventus steals, or any other club, is by his own fault, because if you worked well, you had gone back to being a top italian club as you once were. You want a example of working well? Estoril Praia. This small club in the 2011/12 season on the 2º division sacked his coach in the 4º round, and put his sporting director as coach. The result? At the 12º round they were in 1st position and ended champions. Next season on the 1º division ended in 5th. This season they are currently in 4th eight points of Porto! This is the result of having a great coach. Benfica is currently where it is, due to Jorge Jesus, and also the president and the rest of the direction that keep him at the end of last season, when most benfiquistas wanted him to leave.
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:40
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:31
GrandeTorino, is that your dog?
(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/205536_4444310499796_1801295551_n.jpg)
The shit that's on the jersey of juve is ashamed, and then will need to take a shower. We fans of the Turin Juventus supporters call them shits, and we apologize to the shit, for comparison. :clap1:
Ora hai rotto il cazzo.
Vai a chiamare merda a quella gran puttana di tua madre.
Porta rispetto coglione e non ti beare della presunzione di essere un pseudo paladino della giustizia.
Now you broke my dick.
Go get that much shit to bitch about your mother.
Have respect, jerk, and you do not gloat presumed to be a pseudo champion of justice.
Can anyone tell me why Juventus complained to uefa due to Benfica fans have made a tribute to Torino?
Juventino and GrandeTorino arguing with each other?
(http://imageshack.com/a/img841/6694/giq.gif)
Que 31 que aqui vai entre o juventino e o GrandeTorino.
;D ;D
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:51
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:43
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:30
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:04
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:55
In all the stadiums Italian, when the opposing team steals, gets a chorus: "You are like the juventus, you are like Juventus!" Thieves is a synonym for juventus in Italy. Our newspapers are saying that juventus is the only team to represent Italy ... I do not want to be represented by thieves! They are like Berlusconi ... make it look ridiculous all Italy! I am sorry that the world may know only the rot of Italy. Fifty million Italians feel disgust for juventus.I hope with all my heart that Platini will hand over the cup final in Turin, it would be a great gift for us fans Torino.The UEFA Cup must go to Lisbon, in the home of Benfica!
You're just a poor
the only argument that ask as your excuse for your failures is that the eternal juventus steals.
The juventus is the excuse of those who never wins.
How long you do not win a derby?
How long have not scored in a derby?
I'll answer: 19 years!
How long you do not win a derby?
How long have not scored in a derby?
I answer, that there 19 years it stolen! Thieves!
The last two derbies have "won" with offside goal. If there was a slow-motion replays on the field you would play in the second division and without titoli.Il great coach Mourinho there has always beaten! Do you remember what he said to you there, "juventus zero titles" ;-)
The great coach mourinho (that among the fans benfica is hated)
was referring more to rome and milan (he spoke of juve inappropriately, because in those years did not win shit).
ok, it was offside ... the fact remains that you do not win a derby and scored in a derby for 19 years.
But tell me one thing: in this league you have never won or tied with a few episodes you favor?
No? Liar!
To argue with a fan of Juventus must go down to his level, and the ways they are two. Or is imitating a monkey (you do not know that bananas are also eaten) or should I get a severe brain injury damage.
continue with personal insults?
Benfica ... guys, I'm sorry to say, but do not stay two minutes more in the forums if the fan of Turin continues to freely insult free.
Nothing personal against the friends of Benfica.
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:31
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:29
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:25
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:18
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:11
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:59
anyway ...
I noticed (from yesterday to today) plus a large number of users who have posted in this topic.
I also read that they came to find fans of Torino and Inter and, of course wasted no time to denigrate the juve: favorite sport by the Italians.
Too bad that they wanted to pay homage to the topic only if there was to insult the juve ...
congratulations
"Dear" Juventus, you were sent to Serie B, you had to finish in the Italian third division, and there you went because you have the power. Do everything possible to deny these facts always! The whole world knows you as thieves, you like to win in any way, and enjoy even if you do it by cheating. No one denigrates the juventus, stolen that has been certified by the Italian justice!
Italian justice has not certified a shit.
before speaking, Go and read the documents sports and non-sports.
do not make the ignorant.
dear friends of benfica, fans of turin were at the stage of Lyon in support of their fans, and we know with what result.
If I were you, I would touch the balls and I would do a thousand exorcisms
What kind of fan are you, if you sleep and eat well after Juve loses a match?
Last year I spent a week without sleeping, let alone eating. I even considered quitting my job, home and girlfriend.
and but you're a special kind ...
I'm sure you would have quietly left your girlfriend for a nice muscular guy :kiss:
I am not gay just because I love cats.
Of course not. If you love cats that means you love pussy. That's the opposite of being gay.
Citação de: nogueira em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:56
Que 31 que aqui vai entre o juventino e o GrandeTorino.
;D ;D
What thirty one that here goes between Juventino and GrandeTorino.
ENGLISH BOARD.
Juventino just ignore him. Don't be affected by insults on the internet, it would be stupid of you. O0
Citação de: PsychoFan em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:00
Juventino just ignore him. Don't be affected by insults on the internet, it would be stupid of you. O0
Juventino please ignore PsychoFan's advice to ignore GrandeTorino. Please insult each other continuously while I rub my genitals.
This is getting out of hand now...
Animo Benfica
Citação de: Festivus em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:02
This is getting out of hand now...
From what I've read it seems to be on Jotenko's hand
is it true that Buffon is so old that when he comes out of a museum the alarms go off?? :huh:
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:03
Animo Benfica
You know, JUVENTINO and GrandeTorino were saying that Inter was a very ugly name for a football team.
:disgust:
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:52
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:40
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:31
GrandeTorino, is that your dog?
(http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/205536_4444310499796_1801295551_n.jpg)
The shit that's on the jersey of juve is ashamed, and then will need to take a shower. We fans of the Turin Juventus supporters call them shits, and we apologize to the shit, for comparison. :clap1:
Ora hai rotto il cazzo.
Vai a chiamare merda a quella gran puttana di tua madre.
Porta rispetto coglione e non ti beare della presunzione di essere un pseudo paladino della giustizia.
Now you broke my dick.
Go get that much shit to bitch about your mother.
Have respect, jerk, and you do not gloat presumed to be a pseudo champion of justice.
All the same you juve fans. You are intellectually inferior, as soon as someone tells the truth the only answer you give is to offend the mothers of others. This your post is intellectually understand what you're small. If my mother is a whore you are my sister! Forget it, you're a monkey who tries to compete with Albert Einstein.
On a more serious note:
Please save the insults for your own forums. This thread was not created with the purpose of staging arguments between Juventus and Torino fans.
(http://funny-pictures-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/I-Got-This.jpg)
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:01
Citação de: PsychoFan em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:00
Juventino just ignore him. Don't be affected by insults on the internet, it would be stupid of you. O0
Juventino please ignore PsychoFan's advice to ignore GrandeTorino. Please insult each other continuously while I rub my genitals.
You're very crazy :2funny:
you like to see blood flow, especially if it is Italian, really? :knuppel2:
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:05
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:01
Citação de: PsychoFan em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:00
Juventino just ignore him. Don't be affected by insults on the internet, it would be stupid of you. O0
Juventino please ignore PsychoFan's advice to ignore GrandeTorino. Please insult each other continuously while I rub my genitals.
You're very crazy :2funny:
you like to see blood flow, especially if it is Italian, really? :knuppel2:
His blood must be flowing alright. But it's portuguese and around the crotch area
Jotenko is amazing! :rir:
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:05
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:01
Citação de: PsychoFan em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:00
Juventino just ignore him. Don't be affected by insults on the internet, it would be stupid of you. O0
Juventino please ignore PsychoFan's advice to ignore GrandeTorino. Please insult each other continuously while I rub my genitals.
You're very crazy :2funny:
you like to see blood flow, especially if it is Italian, really? :knuppel2:
Actually I love all south european countries.
My brother travels in business to Italy a lot and he always tells how similar we are when he comes. The first time he got inside a Taxi, the driver was a like a maniac yelling at everyone and screaming "IMBECILEE!!!"
He says he felt at home instantaneously.
Calm down guys, this thread is for the next Benfica game
Citação de: Red.Fever em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:04
is it true that Buffon is so old that when he comes out of a museum the alarms go off?? :huh:
Great!!!!!! O0 :clap1: :2funny:
I can only imagine how this forum would be like if it accepted Porto and Sporting fans. :-X :2funny:
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:04
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:03
Animo Benfica
You know, JUVENTINO and GrandeTorino were saying that Inter was a very ugly name for a football team.
:disgust:
is the truth, but I have not said.
jotenko, jotenko ... check if the cat has been kidnapped :whistle2:
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:09
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:04
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:03
Animo Benfica
You know, JUVENTINO and GrandeTorino were saying that Inter was a very ugly name for a football team.
:disgust:
is the truth, but I have not said.
jotenko, jotenko ... check if the cat has been kidnapped :whistle2:
I only see my kittie at weekends. I live in Lisbon but my parents are far away. They live in the countryside.
Citação de: Festivus em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:08
I can only imagine how this forum would be like if it accepted Porto and Sporting fans. :-X :2funny:
Is Sporting a relevant club now?
I mean in the last years they were pretty irrelevant.
The only thing i remember is the mediocre Jedson.
Oh sorry, he's called Liedson actually
Disgusting club with shameless fans. Just like Porto. Guess they didn't think Benfica would be so hard to beat. But rest assured, I'm sure Platini will give you a hand or two. You'll win this cup just like you won in 1993, through corruption. It's your way of doing things. Congrats.
Citação de: Festivus em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:08
I can only imagine how this forum would be like if it accepted Porto and Sporting fans. :-X :2funny:
These types of fans?
(http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/157983.jpg)
Italian food is actually TASTY AND VERY GOOD but it is not that healthy. An absurd exaggeration of hydrocarbonates on top of fat. Same happens with portuguese fact.
I believe is due to the fact we have always been poorer in the past, having the need to have cheap caloric dense foods.
Pizza sure is good, but it's a disaster in nutritional terms. Same happens to Portuguese Cozido.
On another note. I have lots of pubes. I don't wax them, I just trim them. I use the cooking scissors my mother has in the kitchen.
Citação de: Viciado no Benfica em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:05
On a more serious note:
Please save the insults for your own forums. This thread was not created with the purpose of staging arguments between Juventus and Torino fans.
well ... I agree with you.
The topic was created to discuss the semifinal game and maybe even more (out of football), but I can not accept to be called Monkey ... is well understood.
I expect that some moderator to take action against the rude and racist fan of turin
All I can say is that Juventus, Platini and the rest of UEFA can gargle on my balls and choke on Enzo Maradona's big stick
Citação de: diamonds em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:11
Disgusting club with shameless fans. Just like Porto. Guess they didn't think Benfica would be so hard to beat. But rest assured, I'm sure Platini will give you a hand or two. You'll win this cup just like you won in 1993, through corruption. It's your way of doing things. Congrats.
The funny thing with Porto, is that the fans actually like to win that way. They feel clever. That's why nobody remember their successes after 2 or 3 years.
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:11
Citação de: Festivus em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:08
I can only imagine how this forum would be like if it accepted Porto and Sporting fans. :-X :2funny:
Is Sporting a relevant club now?
I mean in the last years they were pretty irrelevant.
The only thing i remember is the mediocre Jedson
They're the 3rd club in Portugal nowadays. But they have finished behind teams like Braga, Paços de Ferreira and Estoril in the past few seasons.
Citação de: Viciado no Benfica em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:11
Citação de: Festivus em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:08
I can only imagine how this forum would be like if it accepted Porto and Sporting fans. :-X :2funny:
These types of fans?
(http://www.strangecosmos.com/images/content/157983.jpg)
Yankee Stadium?
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:30
Citação de: kneissl em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:28
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:27
Citação de: kneissl em 29 de Abril de 2014, 16:25
What do u think of Bardi , for the nerazurri fan.
Good talent, but not ready to replace Handa if you ask me
And Scuffet? Only 18yrs and already a starter for Udine?
Scuffet did great this season but Udinese is like a little Benfica or a little Porto, they sell their talents for a lot of cash
yes, their scouting seems pretty good
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:12
Citação de: Viciado no Benfica em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:05
On a more serious note:
Please save the insults for your own forums. This thread was not created with the purpose of staging arguments between Juventus and Torino fans.
well ... I agree with you.
The topic was created to discuss the semifinal game and maybe even more (out of football), but I can not accept to be called Monkey ... is well understood.
I expect that some moderator to take action against the rude and racist fan of turin
Listen JUVENTINO. You're a clever guy. Football is only football. It's a sport, a distraction to the given fact we're not at war nowadays.
You can be from Juventus and another guy from Roma, but it in the end you might also be the most similar people in the world.
Football is only football. Happiness and sadness, when it comes to football, is short as we all know it.
Let's try to focus on the good part of the game. Meeting people. Having interracial sex. Or sex with animals.
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:12
Italian food is actually TASTY AND VERY GOOD but it is not that healthy. An absurd exaggeration of hydrocarbonates on top of fat. Same happens with portuguese fact.
I believe is due to the fact we have always been poorer in the past, having the need to have cheap caloric dense foods.
Pizza sure is good, but it's a disaster in nutritional terms. Same happens to Portuguese Cozido.
On another note. I have lots of pubes. I don't wax them, I just trim them. I use the cooking scissors my mother has in the kitchen.
Well Italian cuisine isn't only about pizza, lasagna and pasta haha. That's just the "stereotypical" cuisine that Italian restaurants promote abroad. Chinese cuisine isn't only about Peking Duck and Sweet Pork either.
Citação de: diamonds em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:11
Disgusting club with shameless fans. Just like Porto. Guess they didn't think Benfica would be so hard to beat. But rest assured, I'm sure Platini will give you a hand or two. You'll win this cup just like you won in 1993, through corruption. It's your way of doing things. Congrats.
Well, obviously, most Juventus fans think that Benfica is a small team and that they are 50 times better.
I always say that they think they have 8 Champions but they won 2 like you
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:15
Citação de: diamonds em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:11
Disgusting club with shameless fans. Just like Porto. Guess they didn't think Benfica would be so hard to beat. But rest assured, I'm sure Platini will give you a hand or two. You'll win this cup just like you won in 1993, through corruption. It's your way of doing things. Congrats.
Well, obviously, most Juventus fans think that Benfica is a small team and that they are 50 times better.
I always say that they think they have 8 Champions but they won 2 like you
It's funny how AC Milan has won more European trophies than Inter and Juve combined, but has less Serie A championships.
What is Berlusconi's secret?
Do you guys feel proud or ashamed of Silvio Berlusconi?
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:17
Do you guys feel proud or ashamed of Silvio Berlusconi?
I'd feel proud of him if he stuck to comedy or something like that. I'd never vote for him.
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:17
Do you guys feel proud or ashamed of Silvio Berlusconi?
more or less what you feel proud to have had Murinho as coach of Benfica ...
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:05
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:01
Citação de: PsychoFan em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:00
Juventino just ignore him. Don't be affected by insults on the internet, it would be stupid of you. O0
Juventino please ignore PsychoFan's advice to ignore GrandeTorino. Please insult each other continuously while I rub my genitals.
You're very crazy :2funny:
you like to see blood flow, especially if it is Italian, really? :knuppel2:
I think he fancies gladiators...you are italian so...
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:14
Let's try to focus on the good part of the game. Meeting people. Having interracial sex. Or sex with animals.
Jotenko being Jotenko!
A legend!
Citação de: Festivus em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:16
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:15
Citação de: diamonds em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:11
Disgusting club with shameless fans. Just like Porto. Guess they didn't think Benfica would be so hard to beat. But rest assured, I'm sure Platini will give you a hand or two. You'll win this cup just like you won in 1993, through corruption. It's your way of doing things. Congrats.
Well, obviously, most Juventus fans think that Benfica is a small team and that they are 50 times better.
I always say that they think they have 8 Champions but they won 2 like you
It's funny how AC Milan has won more European trophies than Inter and Juve combined, but has less Serie A championships.
What is Berlusconi's secret?
Milan always focus more on european cups than in the national league (and to me it's the best thing to do) and they were also very lucky in some european games.
Inter is in the middle and Juventus is the exact opposite, all about national league, that's why Benfica has a big opportunity, even Galatasaray kick out Juventus
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:17
Do you guys feel proud or ashamed of Silvio Berlusconi?
In Portugal we have Sócrates, Soares, Alberto João Jardim, but Berlusconi is of a completely different league!!!
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:15
Citação de: diamonds em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:11
Disgusting club with shameless fans. Just like Porto. Guess they didn't think Benfica would be so hard to beat. But rest assured, I'm sure Platini will give you a hand or two. You'll win this cup just like you won in 1993, through corruption. It's your way of doing things. Congrats.
Well, obviously, most Juventus fans think that Benfica is a small team and that they are 50 times better.
I always say that they think they have 8 Champions but they won 2 like you
Well they think that way because they don't understand football, like 90% of football fans. It's normal.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:20
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:17
Do you guys feel proud or ashamed of Silvio Berlusconi?
more or less what you feel proud to have had Murinho as coach of Benfica ...
I don't get it. I feel nothing about that.
How do Italians view Portuguese football, and especially Benfica? Apparently, our club's name makes you guys chuckle...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203561017563876&set=a.1723838893630.98594.1168094306&type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10203561017563876&set=a.1723838893630.98594.1168094306&type=1&theater)
Citação de: Festivus em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:16
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:15
Citação de: diamonds em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:11
Disgusting club with shameless fans. Just like Porto. Guess they didn't think Benfica would be so hard to beat. But rest assured, I'm sure Platini will give you a hand or two. You'll win this cup just like you won in 1993, through corruption. It's your way of doing things. Congrats.
Well, obviously, most Juventus fans think that Benfica is a small team and that they are 50 times better.
I always say that they think they have 8 Champions but they won 2 like you
It's funny how AC Milan has won more European trophies than Inter and Juve combined, but has less Serie A championships.
What is Berlusconi's secret?
It Fuck as if he had twenty years :2funny:
Citação de: Festivus em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:23
How do Italians view Portuguese football, and especially Benfica? Apparently, our club's name makes you guys chuckle...
Well, fica means pussy in italian so is like to say benpussy.
And portuguese league it's not on italiano TV so most people dont know well the players
(http://cdn.acidcow.com/pics/20111114/gifs_08.gif)
Italians are similar to the portuguese in a way. They vote for the most corrupted and dirty personalities.
Platini, stealing from Portugal since 1984.
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:26
Italians are similar to the portuguese in a way. They vote for the most corrupted and dirty personalities.
We should double team on a Juve fan
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:23
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:20
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:17
Do you guys feel proud or ashamed of Silvio Berlusconi?
more or less what you feel proud to have had Murinho as coach of Benfica ...
I don't get it. I feel nothing about that.
we are proud of him as you are proud to have had Mourinho as coach.
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:27
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:26
Italians are similar to the portuguese in a way. They vote for the most corrupted and dirty personalities.
We should double team on a Juve fan
Jotenko REALLY is a bad influence.
Enzo or no Enzo, I'm hoping for a Nico Gaitán show after missing the 1st leg due to an injury.
(http://www.abload.de/img/gaitan1wxfpm.gif)
(http://www.abload.de/img/gaitan11vo9q.gif)
(http://www.abload.de/img/gaitan11pkjr.gif)
(http://www.abload.de/img/gaitan2n2jr7.gif)
(http://www.abload.de/img/gaitansmuzo.gif)
(http://www.abload.de/img/gaitan1why2j.gif)
(http://abload.de/img/nico1vzrd3.gif)
(http://www.abload.de/img/gaitan4a6j26.gif)
(http://www.abload.de/img/gaitan6wzk05.gif)
(http://abload.de/img/nico167lkj.gif)
I do believe Enzo will play anyway. Just some bad Chiellini acting. No neutral would rule in Juventus favour.
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:15
Citação de: diamonds em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:11
Disgusting club with shameless fans. Just like Porto. Guess they didn't think Benfica would be so hard to beat. But rest assured, I'm sure Platini will give you a hand or two. You'll win this cup just like you won in 1993, through corruption. It's your way of doing things. Congrats.
Well, obviously, most Juventus fans think that Benfica is a small team and that they are 50 times better.
I always say that they think they have 8 Champions but they won 2 like you
Maybe juventus does not deserve even the two cups. One was given to him for the massacre of Heysel, who celebrated shamefully despite the dead. The other cup "won" search on the internet .... this documentary "Andere Tijden Ajax-Juventus Bloedverraad in de-Champions League Final 26.05.2013. Doping!
You have good english, when I was in Spain they couldnt even say "what's your name"
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:29
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:15
Citação de: diamonds em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:11
Disgusting club with shameless fans. Just like Porto. Guess they didn't think Benfica would be so hard to beat. But rest assured, I'm sure Platini will give you a hand or two. You'll win this cup just like you won in 1993, through corruption. It's your way of doing things. Congrats.
Well, obviously, most Juventus fans think that Benfica is a small team and that they are 50 times better.
I always say that they think they have 8 Champions but they won 2 like you
Maybe juventus does not deserve even the two cups. One was given to him for the massacre of Heysel, who celebrated shamefully despite the dead. The other cup "won" search on the internet .... this documentary "Andere Tijden Ajax-Juventus Bloedverraad in de-Champions League Final 26.05.2013. Doping!
And Milan cheated against us in one of the ECC finals we've played.
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:30
You have good english, when I was in Spain they couldnt even say "what's your name"
Portuguese folk are better at learning foreign languages than the Spaniards. :smokin:
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:30
You have good english, when I was in Spain they couldnt even say "what's your name"
Spaniards are known for their TERRIBLE capability of speaking other languages.
Do you guys feel horny watching animals mating?
A colleague of mine has shown me this video of an african guy fucking a woman from behind, with their 2 month baby on top of her back.
My colleagues were saying "AWWWWW soooo disgusting! :estrelas:"
And I was like... "Yes. ::) How disgusting. Wait. Don't take it out yet. Let me see it till the end."
Enzo's dick is so big that in the summer there's still snow on the tip
Cool, you ignore each other or there is hate between Spain and Portugal?
Cuz you guys are so close
Que macacada vem a ser esta neste thread ?!
Now in English, I just want to have my Juventino friends licking my balls after another victory of Benfica on Thursday. And for the Juventus supporters here, I don't wish you a good match since your president tries and will try everything to manipulate the result of this leg.
Citação de: Festivus em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:30
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:29
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:15
Citação de: diamonds em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:11
Disgusting club with shameless fans. Just like Porto. Guess they didn't think Benfica would be so hard to beat. But rest assured, I'm sure Platini will give you a hand or two. You'll win this cup just like you won in 1993, through corruption. It's your way of doing things. Congrats.
Well, obviously, most Juventus fans think that Benfica is a small team and that they are 50 times better.
I always say that they think they have 8 Champions but they won 2 like you
Maybe juventus does not deserve even the two cups. One was given to him for the massacre of Heysel, who celebrated shamefully despite the dead. The other cup "won" search on the internet .... this documentary "Andere Tijden Ajax-Juventus Bloedverraad in de-Champions League Final 26.05.2013. Doping!
And Milan cheated against us in one of the ECC finals we've played.
And Inter with the stadium replacement. They played at home.
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:26
Italians are similar to the portuguese in a way. They vote for the most corrupted and dirty personalities.
And they are two countries smashed by its history. Just like Greece.
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:31
Do you guys feel horny watching animals mating?
A colleague of mine has shown me this video of an african guy fucking a woman from behind, with their 2 month baby on top of her back.
My colleagues were saying "AWWWWW soooo disgusting! :estrelas:"
And I was like... "Yes. ::) How disgusting. Wait. Don't take it out yet. Let me see it till the end."
Foda-se ! ahahahahahah
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:31
Do you guys feel horny watching animals mating?
A colleague of mine has shown me this video of an african guy fucking a woman from behind, with their 2 month baby on top of her back.
My colleagues were saying "AWWWWW soooo disgusting! :estrelas:"
And I was like... "Yes. ::) How disgusting."
Have you ever tried to breed your cat and your dog?
I have nothing against spanish people, but if there was a spanish guy on top of a building I would push him
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:36
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:31
Do you guys feel horny watching animals mating?
A colleague of mine has shown me this video of an african guy fucking a woman from behind, with their 2 month baby on top of her back.
My colleagues were saying "AWWWWW soooo disgusting! :estrelas:"
And I was like... "Yes. ::) How disgusting."
Have you ever tried to breed your cat and your dog?
Two females. My dog had her ovaries removed. My cat takes the pill.
Are you sick or what?
Citação de: Patrick_slb em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:34
Que macacada vem a ser esta neste thread ?!
Now in English, I just want to have my Juventino friends licking my balls after another victory of Benfica on Thursday. And for the Juventus supporters here, I don't wish you a good match since your president tries and will try everything to manipulate the result of this leg.
There's no need for this in this thread.
Citação de: OmarLittle em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:37
Citação de: Patrick_slb em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:34
Que macacada vem a ser esta neste thread ?!
Now in English, I just want to have my Juventino friends licking my balls after another victory of Benfica on Thursday. And for the Juventus supporters here, I don't wish you a good match since your president tries and will try everything to manipulate the result of this leg.
There's no need for this in this thread.
But why?
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:37
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:36
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:31
Do you guys feel horny watching animals mating?
A colleague of mine has shown me this video of an african guy fucking a woman from behind, with their 2 month baby on top of her back.
My colleagues were saying "AWWWWW soooo disgusting! :estrelas:"
And I was like... "Yes. ::) How disgusting."
Have you ever tried to breed your cat and your dog?
Two females. My dog had her ovaries removed. My cat takes the pill.
Are you sick or what?
:confused: ... VERY INTERESTING
inter animal homosexuality
:amigo: I'm kidding
MiguelPalma92, read post Nr.1
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:39
Citação de: OmarLittle em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:37
Citação de: Patrick_slb em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:34
Que macacada vem a ser esta neste thread ?!
Now in English, I just want to have my Juventino friends licking my balls after another victory of Benfica on Thursday. And for the Juventus supporters here, I don't wish you a good match since your president tries and will try everything to manipulate the result of this leg.
There's no need for this in this thread.
But why?
Why ? Is there something wrong or offensive in my statement ?
whoever passes tomorrow will have to be careful with Sevilla (they'll most likely pass)
it's not going to be an easy final
I don't wanna lose another final :cry2: :cry2:
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:36
I have nothing against spanish people, but if there was a spanish guy on top of a building I would push him
They talk too loud. It's annoying.
Citação de: Diogo20 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:42
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:36
I have nothing against spanish people, but if there was a spanish guy on top of a building I would push him
They talk too loud. It's annoying.
They talk funny, like retards
Citação de: Slb-Ag em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:35
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:26
Italians are similar to the portuguese in a way. They vote for the most corrupted and dirty personalities.
And they are two countries smashed by its history. Just like Greece.
I dont think we Italians,Spaniards and Portuguese are like Greeks.
Greeks are usually uglier
Citação de: Red.Fever em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:42
whoever passes tomorrow will have to be careful with Sevilla (they'll most likely pass)
it's not going to be an easy final
I don't wanna lose another final :cry2: :cry2:
They're awful, didn't you see the game in dragão? Awful organization.
Do you know why we call Italians "wops" ?
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:43
Citação de: Diogo20 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:42
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:36
I have nothing against spanish people, but if there was a spanish guy on top of a building I would push him
They talk too loud. It's annoying.
They talk funny, like retards
jajajajajajajajajajajaja
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:45
Do you know why we call Italians "wops" ?
Pizza? Mafia? Pasta? Ferrari?
I love Italy and Piça.
I'll be sincere, i don't like italians that much, i prefer italian girls. :metal:
Spaniards? They're nice fellas.
Tried to conquer us and invade us through all means possible, always ending in epic failures. So I like them! A lot!
Citação de: PsychoFan em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:44
Citação de: Red.Fever em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:42
whoever passes tomorrow will have to be careful with Sevilla (they'll most likely pass)
it's not going to be an easy final
I don't wanna lose another final :cry2: :cry2:
They're awful, didn't you see the game in dragão? Awful organization.
I wouldn't underestimate them
they can be dangerous and have some good players, Rakitic for example, awesome player
WOP stands for WithOut Papers. Many Italian immigrants had no papers to identify themselves and were branded as WOPs.
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:49
Spaniards? They're nice fellas.
Tried to conquer us and invade us through all means possible, always ending in epic failures. So I like them! A lot!
Sporting fans believe in the legend of William Carvalho, who was here during the Spanish invasion and he was the one who kicked out all the Spanish
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:48
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:46
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:45
Do you know why we call Italians "wops" ?
Pizza? Mafia? Pasta? Ferrari?
Nah I'm not gonna say it
Oh, OK I got it.
It's an American word....in the US there are almost 20 million people of italian descent.
At the beginning(in 1910 or something like that) they were poor immigrants and so "Wop", without papers
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:48
I'll be sincere, i don't like italians that much, i prefer italian girls. :metal:
My girlfriend is Italian and I agree with what you said.
Citação de: Red.Fever em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:50
Citação de: PsychoFan em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:44
Citação de: Red.Fever em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:42
whoever passes tomorrow will have to be careful with Sevilla (they'll most likely pass)
it's not going to be an easy final
I don't wanna lose another final :cry2: :cry2:
They're awful, didn't you see the game in dragão? Awful organization.
I wouldn't underestimate them
they can be dangerous and have some good players, Rakitic for example, awesome player
Yes they have good players, especially Rakitic like you said, but they have a poor coach. And that is crucial.
Citação de: Patrick_slb em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:51
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:48
I'll be sincere, i don't like italians that much, i prefer italian girls. :metal:
My girlfriend is Italian and I agree with what you said.
^-^
If you ask me, the best thing about us italians is that you can find us all over the world, we're like everywhere.
Italian-american culture is awesome and so are the movies about it
I had a brazillian girlfriend who knows Italian, very sexy indeed, but she was a slut
Now I'm happy with my current gf
When my gf is not around I often jerk off to Benfica videos
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:55
If you ask me, the best thing about us italians is that you can find us all over the world, we're like everywhere.
Italian-american culture is awesome and so are the movies about it
Italian disco music from the late 80s and early 90s is also so so great.
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:56
I had a brazillian girlfriend who knows Italian, very sexy indeed, but she was a slut
Now I'm happy with my current gf
When my gf is not around I often jerk off to Benfica videos
Where do you live?
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:56
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:55
If you ask me, the best thing about us italians is that you can find us all over the world, we're like everywhere.
Italian-american culture is awesome and so are the movies about it
Italian disco music from the late 80s and early 90s is also so so great.
Tarzan Boy??
But seriously guys, i was messing around. I like Italians, italian food, italian culture, all that. I think we have a lot of similarities, as with the Spaniards and Greeks.
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:57
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:56
I had a brazillian girlfriend who knows Italian, very sexy indeed, but she was a slut
Now I'm happy with my current gf
When my gf is not around I often jerk off to Benfica videos
Where do you live?
Lisbon, and in a year I'm going to Porto
Citação de: Pedrinho84 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 17:54
Can anyone tell me why Juventus complained to uefa due to Benfica fans have made a tribute to Torino?
They argued it was offensive to them...
Personally, I can't understand!
Torino forever and ever!
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:00
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:57
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:56
I had a brazillian girlfriend who knows Italian, very sexy indeed, but she was a slut
Now I'm happy with my current gf
When my gf is not around I often jerk off to Benfica videos
Where do you live?
Lisbon, and in a year I'm going to Porto
Do you have brazilian girls there?
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:02
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:00
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:57
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:56
I had a brazillian girlfriend who knows Italian, very sexy indeed, but she was a slut
Now I'm happy with my current gf
When my gf is not around I often jerk off to Benfica videos
Where do you live?
Lisbon, and in a year I'm going to Porto
Do you have brazilian girls there?
There's a huge brazillian and African community in Portugal
Such as Eastern Euros
And more recently, lots of Chinese
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:02
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:00
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:57
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:56
I had a brazillian girlfriend who knows Italian, very sexy indeed, but she was a slut
Now I'm happy with my current gf
When my gf is not around I often jerk off to Benfica videos
Where do you live?
Lisbon, and in a year I'm going to Porto
Do you have brazilian girls there?
Everywhere.
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:02
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:00
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:57
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:56
I had a brazillian girlfriend who knows Italian, very sexy indeed, but she was a slut
Now I'm happy with my current gf
When my gf is not around I often jerk off to Benfica videos
Where do you live?
Lisbon, and in a year I'm going to Porto
Do you have brazilian girls there?
yes, but FC Porto have most of them
in their night club called heat of the night, where they take the referees ::)
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:02
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:00
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:57
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:56
I had a brazillian girlfriend who knows Italian, very sexy indeed, but she was a slut
Now I'm happy with my current gf
When my gf is not around I often jerk off to Benfica videos
Where do you live?
Lisbon, and in a year I'm going to Porto
Do you have brazilian girls there?
Coimbra's University is the one who has more Brazilian students outside Brazil.
We have around 600.000 Brazilians here.
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:04
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:02
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:00
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:57
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:56
I had a brazillian girlfriend who knows Italian, very sexy indeed, but she was a slut
Now I'm happy with my current gf
When my gf is not around I often jerk off to Benfica videos
Where do you live?
Lisbon, and in a year I'm going to Porto
Do you have brazilian girls there?
There's a huge brazillian and African community in Portugal
Such as Eastern Euros
And more recently, lots of Chinese
:D
lm27 you should come visit Portugal then, you seem to like our offers here
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:07
lm27 you should come visit Portugal then, you seem to like our offers here
lm27 don't forget letting me see you having sex.
bring a stick to put in the ass, its like a tradition in Portugal... you'll see many people saying this.. "Pau no cú" , stick in the ass... nice tradition.
Juventus found it offensive the tribute honoring the Torino team that died at Superga?
What a sad team...
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:08
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:07
lm27 you should come visit Portugal then, you seem to like our offers here
lm27 don't forget letting me see you having sex.
Why watch? We should bring like 3 or 4 brazillians and we all have fun, It's the Latin orgy
It's just that we dont have the "Brazilian Booty" here :cry2:
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:20
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:17
Do you guys feel proud or ashamed of Silvio Berlusconi?
more or less what you feel proud to have had Murinho as coach of Benfica ...
Mourinho is Benfiquista, but he is also professional, in the future Mourinho will be Benfica coach, you will see.
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:11
It's just that we dont have the "Brazilian Booty" here :cry2:
We don't have that , we've brazilians with a moustache.
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:11
It's just that we dont have the "Brazilian Booty" here :cry2:
I find Italians very sensual and classy
Citação de: IPASLB em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:13
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:20
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:17
Do you guys feel proud or ashamed of Silvio Berlusconi?
more or less what you feel proud to have had Murinho as coach of Benfica ...
Mourinho is Benfiquista, but he is also professional, in the future Mourinho will be Benfica coach, you will see.
says who?
Citação de: xiribiti em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:14
Citação de: IPASLB em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:13
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:20
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:17
Do you guys feel proud or ashamed of Silvio Berlusconi?
more or less what you feel proud to have had Murinho as coach of Benfica ...
Mourinho is Benfiquista, but he is also professional, in the future Mourinho will be Benfica coach, you will see.
says who?
I think it was a user here who i think he said he had close connections with Mourinho or with someone who knows Mourinho and told us here
Well, seems like we'll have to complain about this:
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2895/14058181822_ac5d467d08_o.gif)
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:17
Well, seems like we'll have to complain about this:
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2895/14058181822_ac5d467d08_o.gif)
vecchia ladrona
vostra camiseta es siempre espectacular :drool:
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:17
Well, seems like we'll have to complain about this:
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2895/14058181822_ac5d467d08_o.gif)
There's no need for this in this thread
We must lick Juve's ass
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:17
Citação de: xiribiti em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:14
Citação de: IPASLB em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:13
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:20
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:17
Do you guys feel proud or ashamed of Silvio Berlusconi?
more or less what you feel proud to have had Murinho as coach of Benfica ...
Mourinho is Benfiquista, but he is also professional, in the future Mourinho will be Benfica coach, you will see.
says who?
I think it was a user here who i think he said he had close connections with Mourinho or with someone who knows Mourinho and told us here
At least he once was. That's for sure.
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:11
It's just that we dont have the "Brazilian Booty" here :cry2:
Italian women, are MUCH prettier than Brazilian.
This is OPorto's chairman Bimbo da Costa aka Flatulência, altough he's our enemy we recognize he has good taste for women's... this is girlfriend
(http://imgs.sapo.pt/fama/2011/frontend/images/imgs/f_img_8fb3c193355aea4cd2492b52cc4c6573.jpg)
Almost equal in age
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_d3EW59RNZW0/SiIV0PdIwmI/AAAAAAAAD-w/TwgGsNEBw2w/s320/CarolinaSalgado_agredida_portugal_porreiro.jpg)
He's ex: wife... this one was a whore before getting he's attention.. true story. Not very good looking, but i think she's good in bed.
Many good stories from this two, the legend prays that every time Carolina smoked it's because Bimbo farted.
Citação de: xiribiti em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:14
Citação de: IPASLB em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:13
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:20
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:17
Do you guys feel proud or ashamed of Silvio Berlusconi?
more or less what you feel proud to have had Murinho as coach of Benfica ...
Mourinho is Benfiquista, but he is also professional, in the future Mourinho will be Benfica coach, you will see.
says who?
I know it, if you dont beleave its not my problem.
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:18
vostra camiseta es siempre espectacular :drool:
I also like Inter's
But I also prefered AC Milan but I never hated Inter or anything
Citação de: RubbaDub em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:19
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:11
It's just that we dont have the "Brazilian Booty" here :cry2:
Italian women, are MUCH prettier than Brazilian.
face? maybe
Body? no, just no
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:19
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:18
vostra camiseta es siempre espectacular :drool:
I also like Inter's
But I also prefered AC Milan but I never hated Inter or anything
Ok But now there is Big Rolly in Inter :metal: :metal: :metal:
(http://www.calciointer.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/rolando-ride.jpg)
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:23
Citação de: RubbaDub em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:19
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:11
It's just that we dont have the "Brazilian Booty" here :cry2:
Italian women, are MUCH prettier than Brazilian.
face? maybe
Body? no, just no
Alright, i´ll give you that, even though, half of them are implants, we have a bunch of Brazilians girls here, and you don´t see many with great booty´s.
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:23
Citação de: RubbaDub em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:19
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:11
It's just that we dont have the "Brazilian Booty" here :cry2:
Italian women, are MUCH prettier than Brazilian.
face? maybe
Body? no, just no
And Brazilian women are into Brazilian waxing...
Rolando belongs to Porto so he's shit, like Pereira and Guarin.
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:26
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:19
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:18
vostra camiseta es siempre espectacular :drool:
I also like Inter's
But I also prefered AC Milan but I never hated Inter or anything
Ok But now there is Big Rolly in Inter :metal: :metal: :metal:
(http://www.calciointer.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/rolando-ride.jpg)
Oh no, you just gave me cancer and aids
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:19
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:18
vostra camiseta es siempre espectacular :drool:
I also like Inter's
But I also prefered AC Milan but I never hated Inter or anything
És da Pontinha? Eu sou da Venda Nova.
How's doing Kovacic?
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:15
Citação de: diamonds em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:11
Disgusting club with shameless fans. Just like Porto. Guess they didn't think Benfica would be so hard to beat. But rest assured, I'm sure Platini will give you a hand or two. You'll win this cup just like you won in 1993, through corruption. It's your way of doing things. Congrats.
Well, obviously, most Juventus fans think that Benfica is a small team and that they are 50 times better.
I always say that they think they have 8 Champions but they won 2 like you
And the first was won in the way that we all know...
I know guys, I hate Porto too...Because they always sell us players that are shit in Italy...
But Rolando is the only good one
Oh no Jotenko lives close by :o
Rolando is an average/mediocre defense. You just don't see it clearly.
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:33
I know guys, I hate Porto too...Because they always sell us players that are shit in Italy...
But Rolando is the only good one
Oh if you knew.....
Citação de: kneissl em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:29
Rolando belongs to Porto so he's shit, like Pereira and Guarin.
We're going to buy him at the end of the season, Pereira is at Sao Paulo fc and he was the worst shit I've ever seen....Guaro is overrated
Citação de: kneissl em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:33
How's doing Kovacic?
Very good, next world class player.
Enzo, what do you think about Juve?
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ycpwgVWSYJg/UqNzy6PiHBI/AAAAAAAABjI/7uP1-gY_6bo/s1600/enzo.gif)
lm27 that something we often say, by some kind of magic, players in Porto are all Messis and Ronaldos, when they go to another club they are worse than a third division player
Guarin, Pereira, Moutinho, James, Hulk
They are all not showing at all what they showed in Porto
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:36
lm27 that something we often say, by some kind of magic, players in Porto are all Messis and Ronaldos, when they go to another club they are worse than a third division player
Guarin, Pereira, Moutinho, James, Hulk
They are all not showing at all what they showed in Porto
doping is tha fuck
Citação de: xiribiti em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:36
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:36
lm27 that something we often say, by some kind of magic, players in Porto are all Messis and Ronaldos, when they go to another club they are worse than a third division player
Guarin, Pereira, Moutinho, James, Hulk
They are all not showing at all what they showed in Porto
doping is tha fuck
The cameras focused Quaresma taking a pill during Benfica 3-1 Porto match for the Portuguese Cup and nobody said anything, it was very strange.
Quaresma, a guy who didnt play football in a regular basis for a long ong long time, and he was overweight when he came back, now he runs 90 minutes like a 18 years old
Citação de: Pedrinho84 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:33
Rolando is an average/mediocre defense. You just don't see it clearly.
already 4 goals in the league, never a mistake..this is not mediocre.
he's not at Garay level, a world class defender, but just not mediocre
See you later maybe...
Bayern-Real Madrid
Well... the next one Porto's going to sell to you is...
(https://scontent-a-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc1/t1.0-9/1926851_1481464552081208_643909111_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t31.0-8/1548049_1481466952080968_899272758_o.jpg)
(https://scontent-b-cdg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1.0-9/p370x247/1907961_1498611637033166_1841064201_n.png)
(http://geradormemes.com/media/created/qwps8d.png)
Portugal's next big thing, he's capable of winning a game by itself , and plays in all positions.
I think Rolando is not bad at all, but just not on a World Class level, and Inter deserves a better defense
Isn't Vidic goin to Inter?
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:33
Oh no Jotenko lives close by :o
Yep. You live very close. I often go to LIDL @ Pontinha.
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:39
Citação de: Pedrinho84 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:33
Rolando is an average/mediocre defense. You just don't see it clearly.
already 4 goals in the league, never a mistake..this is not mediocre.
he's not at Garay level, a world class defender, but just not mediocre
He has a good aerial ability.. and might score some important goals.
If you're happy with him, I suppose it won't be a bad deal (depending on how much Inter will pay for him).
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:36
Enzo, what do you think about Juve?
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ycpwgVWSYJg/UqNzy6PiHBI/AAAAAAAABjI/7uP1-gY_6bo/s1600/enzo.gif)
Priceless.. ;D
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:39
Citação de: Pedrinho84 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:33
Rolando is an average/mediocre defense. You just don't see it clearly.
already 4 goals in the league, never a mistake..this is not mediocre.
he's not at Garay level, a world class defender, but just not mediocre
Like someone already said, Inter deserves better. He's a player for a medium club, not for Inter. But maybe he's better now, and if interistas (??) are happy with him, great!
Citação de: kneissl em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:46
Isn't Vidic goin to Inter?
Yes, already official.
Next year defenders will probably be Vidic/Juan Jesus/Rolando/Ranocchia
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:33
Cool, you ignore each other or there is hate between Spain and Portugal?
Cuz you guys are so close
I don't care about them. And, from my experience, most Portuguese and Spaniards don't care much about each other either. The ones who hate each other are a fairly low percentage. Same goes for the ones that love each other.
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:33
Cool, you ignore each other or there is hate between Spain and Portugal?
Cuz you guys are so close
Spain is a very nice country and I've always been treated well there.
Some think we shouldn't be an independent country, but it's ok.
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:03
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:33
Cool, you ignore each other or there is hate between Spain and Portugal?
Cuz you guys are so close
Spain is a very nice country and I've always been treated well there.
Some think we shouldn't be an independent country, but it's ok.
Never heard a Spaniard wanting Portugal to be part of his country, to be honest.
Bayern - Real Madrid , 20 minutes and game over
Citação de: Jotenko em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:47
Citação de: MiguelPalma92 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:33
Oh no Jotenko lives close by :o
Yep. You live very close. I often go to LIDL @ Pontinha.
Vou la todas as semanas
Citação de: Festivus em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:04
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:03
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:33
Cool, you ignore each other or there is hate between Spain and Portugal?
Cuz you guys are so close
Spain is a very nice country and I've always been treated well there.
Some think we shouldn't be an independent country, but it's ok.
Never heard a Spaniard wanting Portugal to be part of his country, to be honest.
I have a house about 1 km to Spain, across the river.
Hear it a lot.
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:11
Citação de: Festivus em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:04
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:03
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:33
Cool, you ignore each other or there is hate between Spain and Portugal?
Cuz you guys are so close
Spain is a very nice country and I've always been treated well there.
Some think we shouldn't be an independent country, but it's ok.
Never heard a Spaniard wanting Portugal to be part of his country, to be honest.
I have a house about 1 km to Spain, across the river.
Hear it a lot.
And why do they feel that way? Superiority complex or because they love us so much?
Citação de: Festivus em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:13
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:11
Citação de: Festivus em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:04
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:03
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:33
Cool, you ignore each other or there is hate between Spain and Portugal?
Cuz you guys are so close
Spain is a very nice country and I've always been treated well there.
Some think we shouldn't be an independent country, but it's ok.
Never heard a Spaniard wanting Portugal to be part of his country, to be honest.
I have a house about 1 km to Spain, across the river.
Hear it a lot.
And why do they feel that way? Superiority complex or because they love us so much?
Because all others in the Iberian Peninsula belong to Spain.
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:17
Citação de: Festivus em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:13
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:11
Citação de: Festivus em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:04
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:03
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:33
Cool, you ignore each other or there is hate between Spain and Portugal?
Cuz you guys are so close
Spain is a very nice country and I've always been treated well there.
Some think we shouldn't be an independent country, but it's ok.
Never heard a Spaniard wanting Portugal to be part of his country, to be honest.
I have a house about 1 km to Spain, across the river.
Hear it a lot.
And why do they feel that way? Superiority complex or because they love us so much?
Because all others in the Iberian Peninsula belong to Spain.
They only have themselves to blame. Nobody told them to fail several times trying to conquer us.
Citação de: Festivus em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:18
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:17
Citação de: Festivus em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:13
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:11
Citação de: Festivus em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:04
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:03
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:33
Cool, you ignore each other or there is hate between Spain and Portugal?
Cuz you guys are so close
Spain is a very nice country and I've always been treated well there.
Some think we shouldn't be an independent country, but it's ok.
Never heard a Spaniard wanting Portugal to be part of his country, to be honest.
I have a house about 1 km to Spain, across the river.
Hear it a lot.
And why do they feel that way? Superiority complex or because they love us so much?
Because all others in the Iberian Peninsula belong to Spain.
They only have themselves to blame. Nobody told them to fail several times trying to conquer us.
We almost conquered them once... But that is off topic talk.
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:20
Citação de: Festivus em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:18
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:17
Citação de: Festivus em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:13
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:11
Citação de: Festivus em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:04
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:03
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:33
Cool, you ignore each other or there is hate between Spain and Portugal?
Cuz you guys are so close
Spain is a very nice country and I've always been treated well there.
Some think we shouldn't be an independent country, but it's ok.
Never heard a Spaniard wanting Portugal to be part of his country, to be honest.
I have a house about 1 km to Spain, across the river.
Hear it a lot.
And why do they feel that way? Superiority complex or because they love us so much?
Because all others in the Iberian Peninsula belong to Spain.
They only have themselves to blame. Nobody told them to fail several times trying to conquer us.
We almost conquered them once... But that is off topic talk.
I don't have any interest in conquering any other land, to be honest. Hell, I'd rather we hadn't colonized other countries/regions in the past.
Que jugadorazo Di Maria :slb2:
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:23
Que jugadorazo Di Maria :slb2:
Jesus tought him well...
Think about this...All the players from Benfica are world class, like Di Maria,Ramires, Matic and many others.
The ones from Porto are 99% shit
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:32
Think about this...All the players from Benfica are world class, like Di Maria,Ramires, Matic and many others.
The ones from Porto are 99% shit
It's easy to look good when you play for a team that's constantly favored by the refs like Porto. Even I, someone who can barely dribble a ball, would probably win a trophy or two at Porto.
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:23
Que jugadorazo Di Maria :slb2:
Simão Sabrosa -> Di Maria -> Nico Gaitán.
The "20" is our most relevant shirt this century.
Citação de: Festivus em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:36
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:32
Think about this...All the players from Benfica are world class, like Di Maria,Ramires, Matic and many others.
The ones from Porto are 99% shit
It's easy to look good when you play for a team that's constantly favored by the refs like Porto. Even I, someone who can barely dribble a ball, would probably win a trophy or two at Porto.
there's a good reason Mourinho (who knows portuguese teams well) mostly just buys players from Benfica in Portugal...
I Told they were corrupted but everyone told me to be polite and we taking dirty moves from them.
Juve Mafiosi, Juve Merda , Juve Juve Vaffanculo.
Onore al Torino.
Citação de: Red.Fever em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:55
Citação de: Festivus em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:36
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:32
Think about this...All the players from Benfica are world class, like Di Maria,Ramires, Matic and many others.
The ones from Porto are 99% shit
It's easy to look good when you play for a team that's constantly favored by the refs like Porto. Even I, someone who can barely dribble a ball, would probably win a trophy or two at Porto.
there's a good reason Mourinho (who knows portuguese teams well) mostly just buys players from Benfica in Portugal...
False. Mourinho buys players from Jorge Mendes his agent. And he also bought somef players from pigs: Carvalho, P. Ferreira, R. quaresma.
Citação de: Sadness em 29 de Abril de 2014, 21:08
I Told they were corrupted but everyone told me to be polite and we taking dirty moves from them.
Juve Mafiosi, Juve Merda , Juve Juve Vaffanculo.
Onore al Torino.
te ce devo mannà ora o più tardi?
fai te ...
Citação de: Vitor84 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 21:10
Citação de: Red.Fever em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:55
Citação de: Festivus em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:36
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:32
Think about this...All the players from Benfica are world class, like Di Maria,Ramires, Matic and many others.
The ones from Porto are 99% shit
It's easy to look good when you play for a team that's constantly favored by the refs like Porto. Even I, someone who can barely dribble a ball, would probably win a trophy or two at Porto.
there's a good reason Mourinho (who knows portuguese teams well) mostly just buys players from Benfica in Portugal...
False. Mourinho buys players from Jorge Mendes his agent. And he also bought somef players from pigs: Carvalho, P. Ferreira, R. quaresma.
now a days he rarely buys anyone from Porto
Carvalho, Ferreira, etc... he was their manager, and that was when he left to Chelsea, he only bought Quaresma ever since ;D and was a complete flop...
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:55
Citação de: kneissl em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:46
Isn't Vidic goin to Inter?
Yes, already official.
Next year defenders will probably be Vidic/Juan Jesus/Rolando/Ranocchia
My condolences...
Question to our italian friends. Do you accept italian regime as being a Republic? Would you prefer or think you should still be a Kingdom?
Enviado do meu C2005 através de Tapatalk
Citação de: Ricardo Teixeira em 29 de Abril de 2014, 22:16
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:55
Citação de: kneissl em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:46
Isn't Vidic goin to Inter?
Yes, already official.
Next year defenders will probably be Vidic/Juan Jesus/Rolando/Ranocchia
My condolences...
why? Vidic is still good, Juan Jesus is a really good young brazilian centre back,Rolando is decent,Ranocchia is good when he wants.
I dont know if the Eterno, Walter Samuel is going to leave
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 22:45
Citação de: Ricardo Teixeira em 29 de Abril de 2014, 22:16
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:55
Citação de: kneissl em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:46
Isn't Vidic goin to Inter?
Yes, already official.
Next year defenders will probably be Vidic/Juan Jesus/Rolando/Ranocchia
My condolences...
why? Vidic is still good, Juan Jesus is a really good young brazilian centre back,Rolando is decent,Ranocchia is good when he wants.
I dont know if the Eterno, Walter Samuel is going to leave
I think he was mentioning Rolando... fc porto's defender, who, frankly, sucks ;D
Citação de: JIPI em 29 de Abril de 2014, 22:47
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 22:45
Citação de: Ricardo Teixeira em 29 de Abril de 2014, 22:16
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:55
Citação de: kneissl em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:46
Isn't Vidic goin to Inter?
Yes, already official.
Next year defenders will probably be Vidic/Juan Jesus/Rolando/Ranocchia
My condolences...
why? Vidic is still good, Juan Jesus is a really good young brazilian centre back,Rolando is decent,Ranocchia is good when he wants.
I dont know if the Eterno, Walter Samuel is going to leave
I think he was mentioning Rolando... fc porto's defender, who, frankly, sucks ;D
We were speaking about this before....all the players we got from Porto were shit, Rolando is the exception, believe it or not
Citação de: JIPI em 29 de Abril de 2014, 22:47
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 22:45
Citação de: Ricardo Teixeira em 29 de Abril de 2014, 22:16
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:55
Citação de: kneissl em 29 de Abril de 2014, 19:46
Isn't Vidic goin to Inter?
Yes, already official.
Next year defenders will probably be Vidic/Juan Jesus/Rolando/Ranocchia
My condolences...
why? Vidic is still good, Juan Jesus is a really good young brazilian centre back,Rolando is decent,Ranocchia is good when he wants.
I dont know if the Eterno, Walter Samuel is going to leave
I think he was mentioning Rolando... fc porto's defender, who, frankly, sucks ;D
apparently he's doing ok there, they seem happy with him
well, if he's doing a good job there and if they can get him for a good price, guess it could be a good deal
but here, he was nothing special
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/pt/2/2e/Torino_FC_logo.png)
Onore al Grande Torino
Rolando on form is good went through a stage of a bad mistake a game but might even make the Portugal squad for Brazil.
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:03
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:33
Cool, you ignore each other or there is hate between Spain and Portugal?
Cuz you guys are so close
Spain is a very nice country and I've always been treated well there.
Some think we shouldn't be an independent country, but it's ok.
Some think we should not be a independent country is ok? FUCK THAT!
Citação de: JoseEmidio em 29 de Abril de 2014, 23:14
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:03
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:33
Cool, you ignore each other or there is hate between Spain and Portugal?
Cuz you guys are so close
Spain is a very nice country and I've always been treated well there.
Some think we shouldn't be an independent country, but it's ok.
Some think we should not be a independent country is ok? FUCK THAT!
Thats for the Catalans and the Basques that have been like the Scottish in Britain, overruled!
Citação de: cipri_slb em 29 de Abril de 2014, 23:05
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/pt/2/2e/Torino_FC_logo.png)
Onore al Grande Torino
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/it/4/4f/Benficastemma.png)
Honra ao Benfica.
Citação de: JoseEmidio em 29 de Abril de 2014, 23:14
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:03
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:33
Cool, you ignore each other or there is hate between Spain and Portugal?
Cuz you guys are so close
Spain is a very nice country and I've always been treated well there.
Some think we shouldn't be an independent country, but it's ok.
Some think we should not be a independent country is ok? FUCK THAT!
I don't mind they think like that. If they were Portuguese I would mind, of course.
Rolando still shows some good qualities, for a 34 year old player.
I do not see the Italian league but I will always support the Torino and I'll always want your best because they deserve has a glorious past and CLEAN!
And I love the symbol of the club :metal:
GrandeTorino,
Torino have 50 % of Ciro Immobile, and the other 50% belongs to Juventus. So in the end of the season juve can buy Immobile easily, if they paid more than you right?
that co-ownership rule of your league is a little bit confusing
Edit: Juventino can respond to that also
Citação de: pcssousa em 30 de Abril de 2014, 00:00
Citação de: JoseEmidio em 29 de Abril de 2014, 23:14
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:03
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:33
Cool, you ignore each other or there is hate between Spain and Portugal?
Cuz you guys are so close
Spain is a very nice country and I've always been treated well there.
Some think we shouldn't be an independent country, but it's ok.
Some think we should not be a independent country is ok? FUCK THAT!
I don't mind they think like that. If they were Portuguese I would mind, of course.
FUCK CASTILLE! Do you think we are going to be invaded 'AGAIN' by Catalan/Basque/Scottish, LEARN MY FRIEND!!! Divide and rule, what are you on? Castille would fuck us over for a sniff at a GERMAN/FRENCH crotch, onda, ONDA!
Citação de: JoseEmidio em 30 de Abril de 2014, 00:33
Citação de: pcssousa em 30 de Abril de 2014, 00:00
Citação de: JoseEmidio em 29 de Abril de 2014, 23:14
Citação de: pcssousa em 29 de Abril de 2014, 20:03
Citação de: Lm27 em 29 de Abril de 2014, 18:33
Cool, you ignore each other or there is hate between Spain and Portugal?
Cuz you guys are so close
Spain is a very nice country and I've always been treated well there.
Some think we shouldn't be an independent country, but it's ok.
Some think we should not be a independent country is ok? FUCK THAT!
I don't mind they think like that. If they were Portuguese I would mind, of course.
FUCK CASTILLE! Do you think we are going to be invaded 'AGAIN' by Catalan/Basque/Scottish, LEARN MY FRIEND!!! Divide and rule, what are you on? Castille would fuck us over for a sniff at a GERMAN/FRENCH crotch, onda, ONDA!
Spain have always thought we are a part of it, one day, we will make Spain speak Portuguese!
Citação de: avc10 em 30 de Abril de 2014, 00:26
GrandeTorino,
Torino have 50 % of Ciro Immobile, and the other 50% belongs to Juventus. So in the end of the season juve can buy Immobile easily, if they paid more than you right?
that co-ownership rule of your league is a little bit confusing
Edit: Juventino can respond to that also
Co-ownership is used only in Italy, do not like people, but like the clubs that use it, for interest, for little risk if the player is not good and because there is little money and many debts. We fans of the Turin we challenged our president because he has not acquired 100% of the player, and why we do not like to do business with the thieves of juventus. However, it is not clear how it will end the matter Ciro Immobile, we do hope that will be purchased at 100%, the player also loves our colors ... but in football today only count the money, unfortunately.
Welcome GrandeTorino
Welcome to The forum GrandeTorino. What do you feel about The fact that juventus complained to UEFA because of the tribute we Made to your club? They said they were "offended". Such a small team Juventus...Made of tiny people.
~Is that true? I cant believe it.
Citação de: PJammer em 30 de Abril de 2014, 01:02
Welcome to The forum GrandeTorino. What do you feel about The fact that juventus complained to UEFA because of the tribute we Made to your club? They said they were "offended". Such a small team Juventus...Made of tiny people.
We fans of the Turin we were very honored to be your grand gesture of esteem. Fans of juventus you are angry because you have exposed the banner. Also because you Benfica fans, you have taught him education, they denigrate May 4 because they are worse than animals. Benfica is the nobility, juventus dreams of becoming a noble, they behave like uncouth enriched. They are born to complain, they love to win at all costs, even and especially by cheating! Their motto reads: "Winning is not important, but it is the only thing that counts." Pierre de Coubertin said: "The important thing is not to win but to take part. The essential thing is not the victory but the certainty to have fought well." The juventus is the antithesis of sportsmanship. is a club that does not know fair play.
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 30 de Abril de 2014, 01:49
Citação de: PJammer em 30 de Abril de 2014, 01:02
Welcome to The forum GrandeTorino. What do you feel about The fact that juventus complained to UEFA because of the tribute we Made to your club? They said they were "offended". Such a small team Juventus...Made of tiny people.
We fans of the Turin we were very honored to be your grand gesture of esteem. Fans of juventus you are angry because you have exposed the banner. Also because you Benfica fans, you have taught him education, they denigrate May 4 because they are worse than animals. Benfica is the nobility, juventus dreams of becoming a noble, they behave like uncouth enriched. They are born to complain, they love to win at all costs, even and especially by cheating! Their motto reads: "Winning is not important, but it is the only thing that counts." Pierre de Coubertin said: "The important thing is not to win but to take part. The essential thing is not the victory but the certainty to have fought well." The juventus is the antithesis of sportsmanship. is a club that does not know fair play.
Wow you make Juventus sound so similar to a club called Futebol Clube do Porto.
Benvenuto al forum, Grande Torino!
Siamo tutti lieti di avere un rappresentante dei Granata qui al nostro spazio. Se riusciamo a mettere fuori la Juve giovedì prossimo, crede che possiamo contare sul sostegno dei tiffosi del Torino per la finale?
Enzo will play... Your pants already smell like shit biaconeri :D
hi ev'ryone....do we have to be afraid of enzo perez? i dont think so, as well we're not afraid of mean lies of the envious ones...
last week benfica deserved to win but....tomorrow is THE DAY...
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:17
last week benfica deserved to win but....tomorrow is THE DAY...
is the day that the Juventus almost played the final in home and lost in the semi final..
because you underestimated our team
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:14
hi ev'ryone....do we have to be afraid of enzo perez? i dont think so, as well we're not afraid of mean lies of the envious ones...
Welcome.
You should be afraid of us, we're dangerous. Very.
Citação de: cipri_slb em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:19
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:17
last week benfica deserved to win but....tomorrow is THE DAY...
is the day that the Juventus almost played the final in home and lost in the semi final
sure? im not sure of anything... many times selfconfidence clashes with the facts...
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:22
Citação de: cipri_slb em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:19
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:17
last week benfica deserved to win but....tomorrow is THE DAY...
is the day that the Juventus almost played the final in home and lost in the semi final
sure? im not sure of anything... many times selfconfidence clashes with the facts...
I have the conviction that tomorrow you and your friends do not have the courage to appear here
Citação de: pcssousa em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:21
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:14
hi ev'ryone....do we have to be afraid of enzo perez? i dont think so, as well we're not afraid of mean lies of the envious ones...
Welcome.
You should be afraid of us, we're dangerous. Very.
you have a really good team, i do really like your outfielders, especially... but we're not so bad
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:25
Citação de: pcssousa em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:21
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:14
hi ev'ryone....do we have to be afraid of enzo perez? i dont think so, as well we're not afraid of mean lies of the envious ones...
Welcome.
You should be afraid of us, we're dangerous. Very.
you have a really good team, i do really like your outfielders, especially... but we're not so bad
You have a very strong team, stronger than ours. But I have to believe.
If we don't believe, who will?
Citação de: cipri_slb em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:24
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:22
Citação de: cipri_slb em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:19
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:17
last week benfica deserved to win but....tomorrow is THE DAY...
is the day that the Juventus almost played the final in home and lost in the semi final
sure? im not sure of anything... many times selfconfidence clashes with the facts...
I have the conviction that tomorrow you and your friends do not have the courage to appear here
i have no problem, in any case, to come here for congratulations...to give or to receive it, :whistle2: :)
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:30
Citação de: cipri_slb em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:24
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:22
Citação de: cipri_slb em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:19
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:17
last week benfica deserved to win but....tomorrow is THE DAY...
is the day that the Juventus almost played the final in home and lost in the semi final
sure? im not sure of anything... many times selfconfidence clashes with the facts...
I have the conviction that tomorrow you and your friends do not have the courage to appear here
i have no problem, in any case, to come here for congratulations...to give or to receive it, :whistle2: :)
this goes against the rules of a corrupt club...
You should consider choosing your club, then.
Citação de: pcssousa em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:27
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:25
Citação de: pcssousa em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:21
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:14
hi ev'ryone....do we have to be afraid of enzo perez? i dont think so, as well we're not afraid of mean lies of the envious ones...
Welcome.
You should be afraid of us, we're dangerous. Very.
you have a really good team, i do really like your outfielders, especially... but we're not so bad
You have a very strong team, stronger than ours. But I have to believe.
If we don't believe, who will?
of course, believing is half of living and you have good reasons to do it cause you have all the weapons to win, people like your outfieders can drive any defender crazy, first af all cause we have to win to play the final and its physiological that your fast outfielders can find some room...
Citação de: cipri_slb em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:32
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:30
Citação de: cipri_slb em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:24
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:22
Citação de: cipri_slb em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:19
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:17
last week benfica deserved to win but....tomorrow is THE DAY...
is the day that the Juventus almost played the final in home and lost in the semi final
sure? im not sure of anything... many times selfconfidence clashes with the facts...
I have the conviction that tomorrow you and your friends do not have the courage to appear here
i have no problem, in any case, to come here for congratulations...to give or to receive it, :whistle2: :)
this goes against the rules of a corrupt club...
You should consider choosing your club, then.
;D
this supposed corruption is the justification for the other's failure... in italy, like many other countries, there's no other option beyond victory or conspiracy, especially talkin' about chronic losers...
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:37
Citação de: pcssousa em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:27
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:25
Citação de: pcssousa em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:21
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:14
hi ev'ryone....do we have to be afraid of enzo perez? i dont think so, as well we're not afraid of mean lies of the envious ones...
Welcome.
You should be afraid of us, we're dangerous. Very.
you have a really good team, i do really like your outfielders, especially... but we're not so bad
You have a very strong team, stronger than ours. But I have to believe.
If we don't believe, who will?
of course, believing is half of living and you have good reasons to do it cause you have all the weapons to win, people like your outfieders can drive any defender crazy, first af all cause we have to win to play the final and its physiological that your fast outfielders can find some room...
Let's just wait and see. Everybody seems nervous, on both sides.
After all these years we deserve to win another European cup. But first, we have to reach the final.
7 finals lost in a row is way too much... I've experienced 4 losses and can't wait to taste a victory.
Let's just wait and see...
Both teams are strong but I trust Benfica. They have not failed us this season so far.
Tapatalk e coiso
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:43
Citação de: cipri_slb em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:32
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:30
Citação de: cipri_slb em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:24
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:22
Citação de: cipri_slb em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:19
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:17
last week benfica deserved to win but....tomorrow is THE DAY...
is the day that the Juventus almost played the final in home and lost in the semi final
sure? im not sure of anything... many times selfconfidence clashes with the facts...
I have the conviction that tomorrow you and your friends do not have the courage to appear here
i have no problem, in any case, to come here for congratulations...to give or to receive it, :whistle2: :)
this goes against the rules of a corrupt club...
You should consider choosing your club, then.
;D
this supposed corruption is the justification for the other's failure...
No need to use to justify something that has been proven in court
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:43
Citação de: cipri_slb em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:32
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:30
Citação de: cipri_slb em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:24
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:22
Citação de: cipri_slb em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:19
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:17
last week benfica deserved to win but....tomorrow is THE DAY...
is the day that the Juventus almost played the final in home and lost in the semi final
sure? im not sure of anything... many times selfconfidence clashes with the facts...
I have the conviction that tomorrow you and your friends do not have the courage to appear here
i have no problem, in any case, to come here for congratulations...to give or to receive it, :whistle2: :)
this goes against the rules of a corrupt club...
You should consider choosing your club, then.
;D
this supposed corruption is the justification for the other's failure... in italy, like many other countries, there's no other option beyond victory or conspiracy, especially talkin' about chronic losers...
If it was just an excuse from "chronic losers", why were you convicted?
Citação de: pcssousa em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:46
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:37
Citação de: pcssousa em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:27
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:25
Citação de: pcssousa em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:21
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:14
hi ev'ryone....do we have to be afraid of enzo perez? i dont think so, as well we're not afraid of mean lies of the envious ones...
Welcome.
You should be afraid of us, we're dangerous. Very.
you have a really good team, i do really like your outfielders, especially... but we're not so bad
You have a very strong team, stronger than ours. But I have to believe.
If we don't believe, who will?
of course, believing is half of living and you have good reasons to do it cause you have all the weapons to win, people like your outfieders can drive any defender crazy, first af all cause we have to win to play the final and its physiological that your fast outfielders can find some room...
Let's just wait and see. Everybody seems nervous, on both sides.
After all these years we deserve to win another European cup. But first, we have to reach the final.
7 finals lost in a row is way too much... I've experienced 4 losses and can't wait to taste a victory.
Let's just wait and see...
im still dryin' my tears for the losses with real, bvb, milan and hambourg...
Citação de: pcssousa em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:46
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:37
Citação de: pcssousa em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:27
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:25
Citação de: pcssousa em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:21
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:14
hi ev'ryone....do we have to be afraid of enzo perez? i dont think so, as well we're not afraid of mean lies of the envious ones...
Welcome.
You should be afraid of us, we're dangerous. Very.
you have a really good team, i do really like your outfielders, especially... but we're not so bad
You have a very strong team, stronger than ours. But I have to believe.
If we don't believe, who will?
of course, believing is half of living and you have good reasons to do it cause you have all the weapons to win, people like your outfieders can drive any defender crazy, first af all cause we have to win to play the final and its physiological that your fast outfielders can find some room...
Let's just wait and see. Everybody seems nervous, on both sides.
After all these years we deserve to win another European cup. But first, we have to reach the final.
7 finals lost in a row is way too much... I've experienced 4 losses and can't wait to taste a victory.
Let's just wait and see...
goddamn :estrelas:
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:43
Citação de: cipri_slb em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:32
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:30
Citação de: cipri_slb em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:24
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:22
Citação de: cipri_slb em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:19
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:17
last week benfica deserved to win but....tomorrow is THE DAY...
is the day that the Juventus almost played the final in home and lost in the semi final
sure? im not sure of anything... many times selfconfidence clashes with the facts...
I have the conviction that tomorrow you and your friends do not have the courage to appear here
i have no problem, in any case, to come here for congratulations...to give or to receive it, :whistle2: :)
this goes against the rules of a corrupt club...
You should consider choosing your club, then.
;D
this supposed corruption is the justification for the other's failure... in italy, like many other countries, there's no other option beyond victory or conspiracy, especially talkin' about chronic losers...
Foda-se este gajo parece um porco andrade a falar ;D
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:43
Citação de: cipri_slb em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:32
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:30
Citação de: cipri_slb em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:24
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:22
Citação de: cipri_slb em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:19
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:17
last week benfica deserved to win but....tomorrow is THE DAY...
is the day that the Juventus almost played the final in home and lost in the semi final
sure? im not sure of anything... many times selfconfidence clashes with the facts...
I have the conviction that tomorrow you and your friends do not have the courage to appear here
i have no problem, in any case, to come here for congratulations...to give or to receive it, :whistle2: :)
this goes against the rules of a corrupt club...
You should consider choosing your club, then.
;D
this supposed corruption is the justification for the other's failure...
Man, corruption is a serious thing around here. Not you're fault, but it's been the history of Portuguese football for the last 30 years or so. And this isn't excuses, cause we have proofs and it's even on the internet. But Portuguese courts suck.
And this is the explanation to why many of us talk a lot about corruption.
And, like I said before, if you did something wrong you've already been punished for that, so there's no reason for us to throw sticks and stones.
Also, we all think your complain about Enzo was a little bit of a "dirty move". But football is a dirty sport.
Citação de: Lm27 em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:51
Citação de: pcssousa em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:46
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:37
Citação de: pcssousa em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:27
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:25
Citação de: pcssousa em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:21
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:14
hi ev'ryone....do we have to be afraid of enzo perez? i dont think so, as well we're not afraid of mean lies of the envious ones...
Welcome.
You should be afraid of us, we're dangerous. Very.
you have a really good team, i do really like your outfielders, especially... but we're not so bad
You have a very strong team, stronger than ours. But I have to believe.
If we don't believe, who will?
of course, believing is half of living and you have good reasons to do it cause you have all the weapons to win, people like your outfieders can drive any defender crazy, first af all cause we have to win to play the final and its physiological that your fast outfielders can find some room...
Let's just wait and see. Everybody seems nervous, on both sides.
After all these years we deserve to win another European cup. But first, we have to reach the final.
7 finals lost in a row is way too much... I've experienced 4 losses and can't wait to taste a victory.
Let's just wait and see...
goddamn :estrelas:
One of them against Inter in San Ciro. Other against Man United at Wembley (over time), other to Psv on penalty kicks...
7 in a row... Way too much.
Citação de: GuilhermeJMD em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:50
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:43
Citação de: cipri_slb em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:32
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:30
Citação de: cipri_slb em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:24
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:22
Citação de: cipri_slb em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:19
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:17
last week benfica deserved to win but....tomorrow is THE DAY...
is the day that the Juventus almost played the final in home and lost in the semi final
sure? im not sure of anything... many times selfconfidence clashes with the facts...
I have the conviction that tomorrow you and your friends do not have the courage to appear here
i have no problem, in any case, to come here for congratulations...to give or to receive it, :whistle2: :)
this goes against the rules of a corrupt club...
You should consider choosing your club, then.
;D
this supposed corruption is the justification for the other's failure... in italy, like many other countries, there's no other option beyond victory or conspiracy, especially talkin' about chronic losers...
If it was just an excuse from "chronic losers", why were you convicted?
nobody knows....cause the same court established that no one match has been altered... we've been convicted for the behaviour no too crystal clear of our management, for some telephone call they made... telephone calls not proven but deduced from the phone cells...
too many years and too many unlucky finals....you have to put everything you have on tommorow's game
Citação de: pcssousa em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:53
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Citação de: cipri_slb em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:24
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:22
Citação de: cipri_slb em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:19
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:17
last week benfica deserved to win but....tomorrow is THE DAY...
is the day that the Juventus almost played the final in home and lost in the semi final
sure? im not sure of anything... many times selfconfidence clashes with the facts...
I have the conviction that tomorrow you and your friends do not have the courage to appear here
i have no problem, in any case, to come here for congratulations...to give or to receive it, :whistle2: :)
this goes against the rules of a corrupt club...
You should consider choosing your club, then.
;D
this supposed corruption is the justification for the other's failure...
Man, corruption is a serious thing around here. Not you're fault, but it's been the history of Portuguese football for the last 30 years or so. And this isn't excuses, cause we have proofs and it's even on the internet. But Portuguese courts suck.
And this is the explanation to why many of us talk a lot about corruption.
And, like I said before, if you did something wrong you've already been punished for that, so there's no reason for us to throw sticks and stones.
Also, we all think your complain about Enzo was a little bit of a "dirty move". But football is a dirty sport.
italian courts suck too and corruption is a tragedy in italy and im not talkin' about football...
talkin about enzo perez, for you its a "dirty move", in italy it's normality askin' for the tv proof... against us too
Citação de: Lm27 em 30 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
too many years and too many unlucky finals....you have to put everything you have on tommorow's game
Like I said, let's wait and see.
After all that happened to us last season we deserve some happiness, might God be with us...
This time we have our angels Eusébio and Coluna helping us in Heaven.
ok...i gotta go now, hope to see a great match...see you on friday for the comments...
There's 2 reasons behind UEFA's decision this fine morning:
Nº1 - UEFA doesn't want to be accused of bias towards Juventus especially now with a president who played for Juventus.
Nº2- UEFA doesn't want to open a precedent for future games.
Citação de: pcssousa em 30 de Abril de 2014, 15:12
Citação de: Lm27 em 30 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
too many years and too many unlucky finals....you have to put everything you have on tommorow's game
Like I said, let's wait and see.
After all that happened to us last season we deserve some happiness, might God be with us...
This time we have our angels Eusébio and Coluna helping us in Heaven.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-noiAAR46Q_U/TWEO0qbNiRI/AAAAAAAAJOU/y0seIE9FuQE/s400/48322_600X400.jpg)
Though I think stupid the 'Curse Bella Guttman'' this time they will not let :slb2:
Citação de: cipri_slb em 30 de Abril de 2014, 15:15
Citação de: pcssousa em 30 de Abril de 2014, 15:12
Citação de: Lm27 em 30 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
too many years and too many unlucky finals....you have to put everything you have on tommorow's game
Like I said, let's wait and see.
After all that happened to us last season we deserve some happiness, might God be with us...
This time we have our angels Eusébio and Coluna helping us in Heaven.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-noiAAR46Q_U/TWEO0qbNiRI/AAAAAAAAJOU/y0seIE9FuQE/s400/48322_600X400.jpg)
Though I think stupid the 'Curse Bella Guttman'' this time they will not let :slb2:
The curse only applies to Champions League.
Citação de: supersueca em 30 de Abril de 2014, 15:23
Citação de: cipri_slb em 30 de Abril de 2014, 15:15
Citação de: pcssousa em 30 de Abril de 2014, 15:12
Citação de: Lm27 em 30 de Abril de 2014, 15:01
too many years and too many unlucky finals....you have to put everything you have on tommorow's game
Like I said, let's wait and see.
After all that happened to us last season we deserve some happiness, might God be with us...
This time we have our angels Eusébio and Coluna helping us in Heaven.
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-noiAAR46Q_U/TWEO0qbNiRI/AAAAAAAAJOU/y0seIE9FuQE/s400/48322_600X400.jpg)
Though I think stupid the 'Curse Bella Guttman'' this time they will not let :slb2:
The curse only applies to Champions League.
Correction: The curse does not exist. But if it did, it would only apply to Champions League
But we lost 2 Uefa Cups started applying the curse in this case also ;D
If you come to Turin, go to visit the largest Museum of Stolen property / Plunder called: juventus / Shit Museum. To visit the Museum are obligatory gas masks. :clap1: O0 :flagglorioso:
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 30 de Abril de 2014, 15:58
If you come to Turin, go to visit the largest Museum of Stolen property / Plunder called: juventus / Shit Museum. To visit the Museum are obligatory gas masks. :clap1: O0 :flagglorioso:
Bloody cup too
Never forget that they were celebrating thanks to a dive outside the box by one of their players.
And most important thing, there were dead people in the stadium
Citação de: Lm27 em 30 de Abril de 2014, 16:13
Never forget that they were celebrating thanks to a dive outside the box by one of their players.
And most important thing, there were dead people in the stadium
Attention. The juventus trains his players in the pool, they are champions of dips. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rgdwuPT4u0
The Heysel final should have been cancelled, but I guess UEFA feared that would cause even more violence.
I saw it live on TV. In my opinion UEFA wanted Juve to take the cup as a compensation for the lives that were lost. A match that should neve have happened.
Anyway, that was a tragedy and we must respect the 38 persons who lost their life while they just wanted to watch a football match and support their team. I don't know how Juventus presents that trophy, but now I'm curious. :confused:
Acontecendo no Museu do Grande Torino Granada eo Legend of a visita do vice-presidente do Benfica, Alcino Antonio. O Português, que estão em Turim antes do jogo de volta da Liga Europa tem lugar amanhã à noite no Estádio Juventus, foram homenageados pelo número dois na história granada do clube. Domenico Beccaria, presidente da Memória Histórica Grenade, acompanha Alcino Antonio nas diversas salas do Museu. Muito Honrado!
Going on at the Museum of the Grande Torino Granada and the Legend of the visit of vice-President Benfica, Alcino Antonio. The Portuguese, who are in Turin ahead of the return match of the Europa League takes place tomorrow evening at the Juventus Stadium, were honored by the number two in the club's history grenade. Domenico Beccaria, president of the Historical Memory Grenade, is accompanying Alcino Antonio in the various rooms of the Museum. Very Honored!
(http://d3tw5svx9qt5q3.cloudfront.net/attachments/52037946-d07b-11e3-89ae-001a4a1f9a16/Benfica_.jpg)
Citação de: Ned Kelly em 30 de Abril de 2014, 16:28
The Heysel final should have been cancelled, but I guess UEFA feared that would cause even more violence.
I saw it live on TV. In my opinion UEFA wanted Juve to take the cup as a compensation for the lives that were lost. A match that should neve have happened.
Anyway, that was a tragedy and we must respect the 38 persons who lost their life while they just wanted to watch a football match and support their team. I don't know how Juventus presents that trophy, but now I'm curious. :confused:
I have a great respect for those victims. Dying for a football game is absurd. But I find it outrageous that has been assigned to that cup. That cup should not go to anybody! The shocking thing and that Juventus celebrated the cup, without respecting the mourning! The juventus has flaunted the first Champions Cup, forgetting the victims of a massacre. The most important victory of the dead? This thing makes me feel disgust for these people.
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:25
Citação de: pcssousa em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:21
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:14
hi ev'ryone....do we have to be afraid of enzo perez? i dont think so, as well we're not afraid of mean lies of the envious ones...
Welcome.
You should be afraid of us, we're dangerous. Very.
you have a really good team, i do really like your outfielders, especially... but we're not so bad
you have an excellent team, no argue there.
but we also have a great team, despite the fact we have some injured
nevertheless, the history of the banner and the UEFA complaint was absolutely disgusting and now there´s no simpathy for Vecchia Signora here.
Games are won in the field and football lives of values such those that guided us to honour Superga.
I believe if the "noise made yestarday was less than what it was wu would miss Enzo
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 30 de Abril de 2014, 16:42
Citação de: Ned Kelly em 30 de Abril de 2014, 16:28
The Heysel final should have been cancelled, but I guess UEFA feared that would cause even more violence.
I saw it live on TV. In my opinion UEFA wanted Juve to take the cup as a compensation for the lives that were lost. A match that should neve have happened.
Anyway, that was a tragedy and we must respect the 38 persons who lost their life while they just wanted to watch a football match and support their team. I don't know how Juventus presents that trophy, but now I'm curious. :confused:
I have a great respect for those victims. Dying for a football game is absurd. But I find it outrageous that has been assigned to that cup. That cup should not go to anybody! The shocking thing and that Juventus celebrated the cup, without respecting the mourning! The juventus has flaunted the first Champions Cup, forgetting the victims of a massacre. The most important victory of the dead? This thing makes me feel disgust for these people.
I agree with you. That match and the respective trohpy shouldn't have taken place and UEFA could always remeber that gap in the trophy as related to the growing violence in football stadiuns that did little to prevent before this tragedy.
Liverpool played aagainst us that season and there were troubles in the stands too.
Citação de: cavpacores em 30 de Abril de 2014, 16:45
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:25
Citação de: pcssousa em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:21
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:14
hi ev'ryone....do we have to be afraid of enzo perez? i dont think so, as well we're not afraid of mean lies of the envious ones...
Welcome.
You should be afraid of us, we're dangerous. Very.
you have a really good team, i do really like your outfielders, especially... but we're not so bad
you have an excellent team, no argue there.
but we also have a great team, despite the fact we have some injured
nevertheless, the history of the banner and the UEFA complaint was absolutely disgusting and now there´s no simpathy for Vecchia Signora here.
Games are won in the field and football lives of values such those that guided us to honour Superga.
I believe if the "noise made yestarday was less than what it was wu would miss Enzo
The complaint was misplaced in time (if it was for real, why was not filed before?). The objective was to cause unstability in our team. Very disappointed with Juve and hope to answer in the field, preferably with Enzo scoring.
Citação de: Ned Kelly em 30 de Abril de 2014, 16:52
Citação de: cavpacores em 30 de Abril de 2014, 16:45
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:25
Citação de: pcssousa em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:21
Citação de: lucypher em 30 de Abril de 2014, 14:14
hi ev'ryone....do we have to be afraid of enzo perez? i dont think so, as well we're not afraid of mean lies of the envious ones...
Welcome.
You should be afraid of us, we're dangerous. Very.
you have a really good team, i do really like your outfielders, especially... but we're not so bad
you have an excellent team, no argue there.
but we also have a great team, despite the fact we have some injured
nevertheless, the history of the banner and the UEFA complaint was absolutely disgusting and now there´s no simpathy for Vecchia Signora here.
Games are won in the field and football lives of values such those that guided us to honour Superga.
I believe if the "noise made yestarday was less than what it was wu would miss Enzo
The complaint was misplaced in time (if it was for real, why was not filed before?). The objective was to cause unstability in our team. Very disappointed with Juve and hope to answer in the field, preferably with Enzo scoring.
The team juventus is famous for his dishonesty! They are not rumors. This is the reality! You do not need to impress. There is no team in the world most dishonest, even in Columbia between drug traffickers.
Citação de: Lm27 em 30 de Abril de 2014, 16:13
Never forget that they were celebrating thanks to a dive outside the box by one of their players.
And most important thing, there were dead people in the stadium
It wasn't a penalty, that's for sure...
Citação de: pcssousa em 30 de Abril de 2014, 18:34
Citação de: Lm27 em 30 de Abril de 2014, 16:13
Never forget that they were celebrating thanks to a dive outside the box by one of their players.
And most important thing, there were dead people in the stadium
It wasn't a penalty, that's for sure...
But there was a clear penalty on the other side of the field.
A delegation from Benfica for May 4
Attend the Mass and the celebration also Nuno Gomes, now manager, and several former players
(http://d3tw5svx9qt5q3.cloudfront.net/attachments/fed35914-d087-11e3-94c0-001a4a1f9a16/200px-SL_Benfica_logo.svg.png)
There will also be a delegation from Benfica on Sunday night, at 20, at Superga (Location where the aircraft fell), to attend the celebrations of the 65th anniversary of the Superga tragedy. Nuno Gomes will be present on the hill, now director of the company, and some former players.
Thanks Benfica! :winner: :bandeiraslb2:
GrandeTorino, Which italian players you think could be useless for Benfica? (Not too much expensive players).
Citação de: FacFack em 30 de Abril de 2014, 20:46
GrandeTorino, Which italian players you think could be useless for Benfica? (Not too much expensive players).
What do you mean not too expensive? Under the 20 million euro?
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 30 de Abril de 2014, 20:53
Citação de: FacFack em 30 de Abril de 2014, 20:46
GrandeTorino, Which italian players you think could be useless for Benfica? (Not too much expensive players).
What do you mean not too expensive? Under the 20 million euro?
Under 7,5 M for sure... We're a poor club from a poor country.
Citação de: FacFack em 30 de Abril de 2014, 20:46
GrandeTorino, Which italian players you think could be useless for Benfica? (Not too much expensive players).
why do you want us to buy useless players?? :huh:
Citação de: pcssousa em 30 de Abril de 2014, 20:57
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 30 de Abril de 2014, 20:53
Citação de: FacFack em 30 de Abril de 2014, 20:46
GrandeTorino, Which italian players you think could be useless for Benfica? (Not too much expensive players).
What do you mean not too expensive? Under the 20 million euro?
Under 7,5 M for sure... We're a poor club from a poor country.
Also in Italy there are not much money, we have to pay a large debt. The rich are getting richer and the poor get poorer, the middle class is vanishing. The Italian Club buy players in South America or eastern Europe to save money, or seek players with expiring contracts, and spend little to grow at home young players. In fact, Inter and Milan are no longer of the Top Team, also juventus has difficulty in Europe, the top players Pirlo, Tevez and Llorente were free agents. In Italy we use the method of co-ownership, because there's very little money. There is no money to build stadiums decent ... With less than 10 million? Last year Ciro Immobile and Alessio Cerci worth that amount. Players are very quick in the race and very technical, ideal for Portuguese football (very spectacular). Today? Italian players, good for the top clubs there are very few.
Sky Italia :Vidal will be ready for tomorrow, the only one missing is Barzagli....
Caceres will take his place
Citação de: Lm27 em 30 de Abril de 2014, 22:28
Sky Italia :Vidal will be ready for tomorrow, the only one missing is Barzagli....
Caceres will take his place
they'll have Vidal and us Gaitán
more quality to both sides for 2nd leg... it's gonna be tough but I think we got this (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/Ghelyon.gif)
Citação de: Red.Fever em 30 de Abril de 2014, 22:36
Citação de: Lm27 em 30 de Abril de 2014, 22:28
Sky Italia :Vidal will be ready for tomorrow, the only one missing is Barzagli....
Caceres will take his place
they'll have Vidal and us Gaitán
more quality to both sides for 2nd leg... it's gonna be tough but I think we got this (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/Ghelyon.gif)
Barzagli is a great defender(to me it's the best centre back in Juventus)...if really, he cant play like the in the Lisboa game, well it's a good thing
Citação de: Lm27 em 30 de Abril de 2014, 22:54
Citação de: Red.Fever em 30 de Abril de 2014, 22:36
Citação de: Lm27 em 30 de Abril de 2014, 22:28
Sky Italia :Vidal will be ready for tomorrow, the only one missing is Barzagli....
Caceres will take his place
they'll have Vidal and us Gaitán
more quality to both sides for 2nd leg... it's gonna be tough but I think we got this (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/Ghelyon.gif)
Barzagli is a great defender(to me it's the best centre back in Juventus)...if really, he cant play like the in the Lisboa game, well it's a good thing
yep, it's good news O0
and this time we should start with our 2 best strikers this season (Rodrigo and Lima)
in Lisbon we started with Cardozo who is not in great shape, he had an injury and didn't play for a few months
so I'm hoping we'll give them even more trouble this time
Off Topic : I noticed that you have a problem in Portugal that we have here too...
In many games the stadiums are half empty? why?
In Italy because a lot of people prefer to watch football on tv...same reason?
Not really.
That tv problem only happens with Benfica, Porto and Sporting.
The issue with every other club is way more simple: they don't have supporters.
We are a small country.
Benfica and Sporting became powerhouses in the beggining of the 20th century, with nothing else going on, and with the help of cycling teams and european sucesses they become national clubs. Benfica, being more sucessful and more relatable to the masses, became much more impressive than Sporting. The last UEFA study said that 47% of the portuguese population are Benfica fans.
FC Porto is growing in the last decades, they already dominate their city and have a lot of fans on the Great Porto area that has 3 500 000 million people, more than 30% of the country.
So as you can see, there's not much room for the local clubs.
It's kind of sad but most small teams in our League have attendaces between 1000 - 3000 people and have absolutely no power whatsoever. Whether it is Olhanense or Nacional or Arouca, no one cares about our teams. They kind of only exist to play against the big clubs.
That's the worst thing about our league.
TV is a problem for the small clubs too. See games from 80's and even 90's, Beira-Mar, Farense and so on have very good attendances in their stadiums.
On second thought, I doubt you've ever seen highlights from a portuguese game without the big club and the two medium sized ones.
If you were talking about Benfica attendances, it's complicated. Many people do prefer to watch in on tv and also there's that economic crisis that you may have heard of.
I don't think our attendances are bad, I think our stadium is too big for the modern era, when everyone has to pay to enter the stadium and there's no shortcuts or free entry after 10 minutes.
Portugal is not the kind of country where 50k or 60k people are willing to give 300 or 400 euros per year for season tickets, even if football is one of the most important thing in their lifes. It's too expensive when they can just watch on TV and only go to stadium in the real important matches.
But with that said, our average attendace this year is around 45k. That would sell out the Juventus Arena for every game, for example. In our stadium though, it looks half empty.
Citação de: Covenant em 01 de Maio de 2014, 00:32
TV is a problem for the small clubs too. See games from 80's and even 90's, Beira-Mar, Farense and so on have very good attendances in their stadiums.
They weren't as good as our memory tells us they were.
But like I said, I doubt most people on those stadiums at the time payed for their tickets like they have to do now.
Plus, there's that problem with the capacity of the stadiums. Everything is too big because of Euro 2004.
My friend, unlike Italy, where there is a strong "support your local club" mentality, here I'd say 99% of portuguese people who care about football support Benfica, Porto or Sporting. They may have a little simpathy for their local clubs...but when those clubs play against one of the big three, they support the bigger club. There is one exception though...Vitória Guimaraes. This club is probably, the only one with a strong local support, that when big clubs go there to play, they don't feel like playing home games. Over the last decada we've seen something similar with Braga, but for me that's just bullshit...most of them are also Porto supporters.
Stick in the ass of Juventus :metal:
Citação de: Schweisen Tiger em 01 de Maio de 2014, 00:45
My friend, unlike Italy, where there is a strong "support your local club" mentality, here I'd say 99% of portuguese people who care about football support Benfica, Porto or Sporting. They may have a little simpathy for their local clubs...but when those clubs play against one of the big three, they support the bigger club. There is one exception though...Vitória Guimaraes. This club is probably, the only one with a strong local support, that when big clubs go there to play, they don't feel like playing home games. Over the last decada we've seen something similar with Braga, but for me that's just bullshit...most of them are also Porto supporters.
It's not only your country....
Also in Italy big clubs have more fans than little one....
Especially in cities that havent a club in Serie A, all the people support big clubs
"The Benfica in Portugal is like juventus in Italy.
Or are you a fan of the team or the team you're up against.
If it is true that Benfica will have many fans in Italy, it is also true that Juventus will have many fans in Portugal".
(Antonio Conte, 30/04/2014)
Who do you agree with the coach of Juventus?
Yeah, that's true.
A curiosity?
When you hear talk in Italian, understand (more or less) what is being said?
As for me, when I hear talk in Portuguese only understand 25/30% of what is being said.
While, when I listen to Spanish, I understand the 60/65% of what is being said.
It happens to you too?
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 01 de Maio de 2014, 14:29
A curiosity?
When you hear talk in Italian, understand (more or less) what is being said?
As for me, when I hear talk in Portuguese only understand 25/30% of what is being said.
While, when I listen to Spanish, I understand the 60/65% of what is being said.
It happens to you too?
I think it dependes on a number of tendencies.
The accent, and the speed we talk. Portuguese like italians, speak fast, and have many regional accents. Its easier to undestand spanish, i think, because they talk more slowly sometimes, and because they are lazy, they have a very open sound and dont give a real use to the tongue. Thats why they have much dificulty do speak english, they are not trained to do so.
As for my self, i undestand the majority of italian. As for i undestand some romanian, like in 8 words i can undestand 3 ou 4.
The basis is latin, and trying do perceive de roth of the word, you can get there.
Nedless do say, its easier to read than do ear.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 01 de Maio de 2014, 14:16
"The Benfica in Portugal is like juventus in Italy.
Or are you a fan of the team or the team you're up against.
If it is true that Benfica will have many fans in Italy, it is also true that Juventus will have many fans in Portugal".
(Antonio Conte, 30/04/2014)
Who do you agree with the coach of Juventus?
Its true, like Flamengo in Brazil, Boca, Bayern, OM, Real, MUTD, and so on...
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 01 de Maio de 2014, 14:29
A curiosity?
When you hear talk in Italian, understand (more or less) what is being said?
As for me, when I hear talk in Portuguese only understand 25/30% of what is being said.
While, when I listen to Spanish, I understand the 60/65% of what is being said.
It happens to you too?
yeah, it happens the same to us ;D
spanish it's much easier for us to understand than Italian... guess it's like a language in between if it happens the same to you hahah
but i'd say we (portuguese) in general understand a good 70/80% of what they say (it helps if they don't speak too fast). I understand a good 95% but maybe that's because I used to go to Spain a lot, so not sure if most also understand that much.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 01 de Maio de 2014, 14:16
"The Benfica in Portugal is like juventus in Italy.
Or are you a fan of the team or the team you're up against.
If it is true that Benfica will have many fans in Italy, it is also true that Juventus will have many fans in Portugal".
(Antonio Conte, 30/04/2014)
Who do you agree with the coach of Juventus?
yeah, same here
very often the most loved and successful clubs in their countries are also the most hated by others of the same country that support other clubs
but here Porto is also hated a lot by neutrals and some other club fans for the reasons you already know... they've been caught cheating many times and the people that likes football despises what they do.
Citação de: TheRedRanger em 01 de Maio de 2014, 00:20
Not really.
That tv problem only happens with Benfica, Porto and Sporting.
The issue with every other club is way more simple: they don't have supporters.
We are a small country.
Benfica and Sporting became powerhouses in the beggining of the 20th century, with nothing else going on, and with the help of cycling teams and european sucesses they become national clubs. Benfica, being more sucessful and more relatable to the masses, became much more impressive than Sporting. The last UEFA study said that 47% of the portuguese population are Benfica fans.
FC Porto is growing in the last decades, they already dominate their city and have a lot of fans on the Great Porto area that has 3 500 000 million people, more than 30% of the country.
So as you can see, there's not much room for the local clubs.
It's kind of sad but most small teams in our League have attendaces between 1000 - 3000 people and have absolutely no power whatsoever. Whether it is Olhanense or Nacional or Arouca, no one cares about our teams. They kind of only exist to play against the big clubs.
That's the worst thing about our league.
According to Censos 2011, Great Porto has officially 1 287 276 people.
Not even Great Lisbon has 3,5 Million.
According to Uefa, 47% of all Portuguese support Benfica. 1% more than on the last exhaustive study about this subject, wich was released in the 90's... We are growing even more.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 01 de Maio de 2014, 14:16
"The Benfica in Portugal is like juventus in Italy.
Or are you a fan of the team or the team you're up against.
If it is true that Benfica will have many fans in Italy, it is also true that Juventus will have many fans in Portugal".
(Antonio Conte, 30/04/2014)
Who do you agree with the coach of Juventus?
If he's talking about fans, yes. We're the most supported club in Portugal.
If he's talking about titles, yes. We won more leagues than our rivals.
If he's talking about the way the club won them, no. We play fairly, and win fairly. I'm sorry, my friend...nothing against you personally, but your club doesn't have, how to say...credibility. Even Conte's "everybody is against us" speech is similar to the one used by Porto.
It's like spanish journalist from Marca, Santiago Segurola, says:
"It is terrible what is happening in football, with the condescendent eye of the press. In the past few years, it has been proved massive doping situations in Italy, like Juventus, the bribe of players and referees both in Italy and Portugal, with teams like Juve or Porto between this mess. Football authorities, press and the football professionals (managers, directors, referees and players) should be more vigilant about something that it's not fiction, it's real.
There are people that put so much effort in winning, in proclaiming themselves winners, that they break the laws in an obscene way. One of the things that surprise me the most, it's the repetitios of club's names. They are almost ever the same: Juventus, Porto..."
My friend, the person who said this, is a respected jornalist in Spain (not Portugal or Italy)...and that I know, doesn't support, nor is affiliated with Benfica or your italian rivals.
Besides...everyone saw Mr.Çakir performance last Thursday.
I do not want to do to you the best wishes for this evening, for superstition. You are now in Turin, you are welcome :bandeiraslb2:, and so I say to you ... Goodbye to Turin soon! :slb2:
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 01 de Maio de 2014, 16:16
I do not want to do to you the best wishes for this evening, for superstition. You are now in Turin, you are welcome :bandeiraslb2:, and so I say to you ... Goodbye to Turin soon! :slb2:
Grazie amico! Saluti sportivi al grande Torino! Per sempre nei nostri ricordi!
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 01 de Maio de 2014, 16:16
I do not want to do to you the best wishes for this evening, for superstition. You are now in Turin, you are welcome :bandeiraslb2:, and so I say to you ... Goodbye to Turin soon! :slb2:
Hope we can return to Torino to play the final. Hope we can win the cup and dedicate it not only to Eusébio and Coluna but also to the Gran Torino.
Just watched Torino's vice-president singing "Ninguém pára o Benfica"! Wowwwww...
Artur or Oblak?
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 01 de Maio de 2014, 14:29
A curiosity?
When you hear talk in Italian, understand (more or less) what is being said?
As for me, when I hear talk in Portuguese only understand 25/30% of what is being said.
While, when I listen to Spanish, I understand the 60/65% of what is being said.
It happens to you too?
It depends on the accent. Sometimes I understand most of it(70% and above) without much trouble, and other times I have trouble understanding most of it(20% at best). As for written Italian, my understanding of it is between 50 and 70%
As far as Spanish goes, once again it depends on the accent. Spaniards speak kinda fast so I guess I understand about 70% of what they say. Written? 90%.
Oblak is so much better.
(http://oi57.tinypic.com/30i893l.jpg)
;D ;D ;D
Hope it's a good game, and Benfica go through to the final. :flagglorioso: :slb2: :flagglorioso:
(http://oi61.tinypic.com/k130ux.jpg)
Grande Dieguito Maradona! :bow2:
OBLAK YEEEEEEES!!
Maradona tem bom gosto ^-^
500 Juve fans in Lisbon
2100 (maximum allowed) Benfica fans in Turim (http://www.pic4ever.com/images/Ghelyon.gif)
O user Toromania, está a dizer que impediram os adeptos do Benfica de entrar com adereços do Torino. A ser verdade, é triste.
Citação de: pcssousa em 01 de Maio de 2014, 17:27
(http://oi57.tinypic.com/30i893l.jpg)
;D ;D ;D
Juve shit!!! I apologize if I offend the shit! :2funny:
Like fc Porto fans the Juventus FC fans are not the "corrupt" one, neither both clubs are and ONLY the presidents/chairmans/directors are who deserve all blame and not the fans, some good sense please.
Citação de: IPASLB em 01 de Maio de 2014, 19:54
Like fc Porto fans the Juventus FC fans are not the "corrupt" one, neither both clubs are and ONLY the presidents/chairmans/directors are who deserve all blame and not the fans, some good sense please.
My friend...if you see it happening, and you still give excuses like "it was an injustice", "everyone else did it", "We're innocent (even when everybody heard the recorded phone calls)", you're being part of it... not an active part, for sure...but assuming a submissive role. And that is also wrong. If you speak with any Porto fan, you'll be hearing it...
Citação de: Schweisen Tiger em 01 de Maio de 2014, 20:00
Citação de: IPASLB em 01 de Maio de 2014, 19:54
Like fc Porto fans the Juventus FC fans are not the "corrupt" one, neither both clubs are and ONLY the presidents/chairmans/directors are who deserve all blame and not the fans, some good sense please.
My friend...if you see it happening, and you still give excuses like "it was an injustice", "everyone else did it", "We're innocent (even when everybody heard the recorded phone calls)", you're being part of it... not an active part, for sure...but assuming a submissive role. And that is also wrong. If you speak with any Porto fan, you'll be hearing it...
I anderstand your point but i still think like i posted.
Citação de: Schweisen Tiger em 01 de Maio de 2014, 20:00
Citação de: IPASLB em 01 de Maio de 2014, 19:54
Like fc Porto fans the Juventus FC fans are not the "corrupt" one, neither both clubs are and ONLY the presidents/chairmans/directors are who deserve all blame and not the fans, some good sense please.
My friend...if you see it happening, and you still give excuses like "it was an injustice", "everyone else did it", "We're innocent (even when everybody heard the recorded phone calls)", you're being part of it... not an active part, for sure...but assuming a submissive role. And that is also wrong. If you speak with any Porto fan, you'll be hearing it...
You have explained well the facts. Fans of juventus defend the misdeeds of their society. They deny, they defend themselves with absurd excuses, such as that of the conspiracy. Ridiculous!
CHUPEM, SEUS CORRUPTOS!
Congratulations! :bandeiraslb2: You are in the Final of the UEFA Cup! Benfica great! Thank you for this satisfaction! Great! Great! Great! Great! Great! They won the Best! :flagglorioso: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
OBRIGADO HERMANOS
Spoke too much but played too little against 10 and then 9.
The atmosphere was a letdown as well.
Good luck in Serie A, surely you'll win it.
I'm enjoying like you, as if he had won my team! Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! You have fought well, they tried to let you all lose with the expulsion, but they did not succeed! Large 9 players against 11 and you did it! I'm happy!
Come into our home this is the link: http://www.toro.it/press/view/8677 my nick is TAURO, We're celebrating you!
Thanks for the support, GrandeTorino. :amigo:
I'm so happy, i don't know what to say. ;D
Main mistake of Juventus was to underestimate Benfica!
But we are the biggest club in the world!
we're sorry Juventus! :coolsmiley:
:) Thanks for the support fellow Torino supporters from now on Torino is my italian club ! Forza Torino
It would be an honor if you would be commenting on our website: http://www.toro.it
Good game.
Juventus did not have the intelligence and wit to get past your defence and Dm's. Benfica deserved to go through. Also your players are incredibly fit and their speed and stamina to the end was impressive.
The final will be fun. I have a soft spot for Sevilla because my favorite player played there, Tsiartas.
Congrats - I hope you enjoy.
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 01 de Maio de 2014, 22:32
It would be an honor if you would be commenting on our website: http://www.toro.it
I'll comment there soon, I promise.
Hope you can support us in the final and hope we can also dedicate the Cup to the Grande Torino!
Viva o Jorge Jesus. Genius at defensive organization! He deserves it.
Conte is saying on italian TV that referee was on Benfica's side...
Incredibile, FIGLIO DI PUTTANA MAFIOSO
Citação de: Lm27 em 01 de Maio de 2014, 22:37
Conte is saying on italian TV that referee was on Benfica's side...
Incredibile, FIGLIO DI PUTTANA MAFIOSO
corrupt is always a corrupt...
this reminds me coaches of Porto
Citação de: Lm27 em 01 de Maio de 2014, 22:37
Conte is saying on italian TV that referee was on Benfica's side...
Incredibile, FIGLIO DI PUTTANA MAFIOSO
Let him speak, fuck him!
Conte, vai mas é pó caralho!
Conte is a nervous man right now.
I understand him, it's surely very frustating to see your team unable to qualify for the final, in your own stadium, against a 9 men team.
Citação de: pcssousa em 01 de Maio de 2014, 22:34
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 01 de Maio de 2014, 22:32
It would be an honor if you would be commenting on our website: http://www.toro.it
I'll comment there soon, I promise.
Hope you can support us in the final and hope we can also dedicate the Cup to the Grande Torino!
We support Benfica, you're sure! Now given a asphalted also the Siviglia! On May 4, there will your players to the celebration of Turin, you'll see what a welcome! I like to think that ... The Grande Torino has taken the field with you tonight!
GrandeTorino i hope make a great party in Turin this time we will many more invade Turin!
Citação de: Darkboy em 01 de Maio de 2014, 22:42
Conte is a nervous man right now.
I understand him, it's surely very frustating to see your team unable to qualify for the final, in your own stadium, against a 9 men team.
He's frustrated because it's very easy with italian referees, but in Europe they cant even win against Copenaghen
Conte must have missed the two footed challenge by Caceres...
Citação de: cipri_slb em 01 de Maio de 2014, 22:44
GrandeTorino i hope make a great party in Turin this time we will many more invade Turin!
Yes dear brothers, Turin will be your home, we are waiting with open arms. Pay attention to the fans of juventus, they are bastards who can not stomach the defeats.
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 01 de Maio de 2014, 22:53
Citação de: cipri_slb em 01 de Maio de 2014, 22:44
GrandeTorino i hope make a great party in Turin this time we will many more invade Turin!
Yes dear brothers, Turin will be your home, we are waiting with open arms. Pay attention to the fans of juventus, they are bastards who can not stomach the defeats.
In Turin there are more supporters of Torino right?
They will not dare to leave the house
Conte is being a dick. Complaining about the referee and saying we are cry babies...
I lost respect for Conte after this. I guess football really does reveal character, eh?
Conte's declarations aftermatch are absolutely ridiculous. How can I have respect for a club like Juve, if they behave exactly like Porto? How can I have respect for a club that a couple of days before de 2nd leg, tries to have a player of ours to be excluded of this game? How can I have respect for a club that doesn't show any fair-play for the opponent and prefers to cry like a river on the press conference, complaining about the referee? Juventus complaing about referees...fuck me, now I can say I've seen everything.
I never liked Conte, even when he was a player. But let him talk. I prefer to respect other Juve legends like Roberto Baggio, Buffon, Laudrup, etc etc.
I respect Juventus, but after this, I will never respect Antonio Conte.
I can smell the butthurt
Conte: "It has passed the team which had less shots on goal."
Hey Conte...it has passed the team which scored more goals! Prostituzione intellettuale...
Juve Juve Vaffanculo.
Conte has the right profile to be fcporto's coach
The last thing i will say to Conte is this, Benfica won the italian way. ^-^
I signed and left a comment Tauro, just wish my Italian was better. :-X
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 01 de Maio de 2014, 23:08
The last thing i will say to Conte is this, Benfica won the italian way. ^-^
Indeed.
We were the Italian team in these 2 games, more or less. Not them.
Citação de: cipri_slb em 01 de Maio de 2014, 22:56
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 01 de Maio de 2014, 22:53
Citação de: cipri_slb em 01 de Maio de 2014, 22:44
GrandeTorino i hope make a great party in Turin this time we will many more invade Turin!
Yes dear brothers, Turin will be your home, we are waiting with open arms. Pay attention to the fans of juventus, they are bastards who can not stomach the defeats.
In Turin there are more supporters of Torino right?
They will not dare to leave the house
Yes, in Turin us fans of Torino are in the majority, the fans of Rubentus come from the south Italy or come by Moroccan immigrants, Romanians, Albanians, Tunisians, Algerians ... But they superior feel, they can not lose, they feel the best in the world. If you talk to them they answer the UEFA Cup is not interested,. They snubbed her, they think that their home is the Champions leaghe. ;-)))) Ridiculous! They win only in Italian ... robbing!
I knew that Juventus were hated by the fans of the other Italian clubs. But these couple of weeks have shown me that not only they're hated but they're also seen as Satan himself by a large portion of Italy.
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/22bfecf734a1156522cd719c7041181d/tumblr_n4n4tfT9Je1tyebf0o7_r1_250.gif)
Citação de: Festivus em 01 de Maio de 2014, 23:23
I knew that Juventus were hated by the fans of the other Italian clubs. But these couple of weeks have shown me that not only they're hated but they're also seen as Satan himself by a large portion of Italy.
They are Satan! On youtube there are thousands of movies that talk about their robberies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXvFDg5lQS0
Citação de: Festivus em 01 de Maio de 2014, 23:23
I knew that Juventus were hated by the fans of the other Italian clubs. But these couple of weeks have shown me that not only they're hated but they're also seen as Satan himself by a large portion of Italy.
The fact is that they're arrogant...they talk like they won 10 Champions League...they say that other teams are little: Galatasaray was a shitty club but they lost, Benfica was a little club and they lost ecc...
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 01 de Maio de 2014, 22:42
Citação de: pcssousa em 01 de Maio de 2014, 22:34
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 01 de Maio de 2014, 22:32
It would be an honor if you would be commenting on our website: http://www.toro.it
I'll comment there soon, I promise.
Hope you can support us in the final and hope we can also dedicate the Cup to the Grande Torino!
We support Benfica, you're sure! Now given a asphalted also the Siviglia! On May 4, there will your players to the celebration of Turin, you'll see what a welcome! I like to think that ... The Grande Torino has taken the field with you tonight!
I think we started passing this tie when we went to Superga, and when you receive us. I hope that, in the final, all the team could go to Superga and pay homage to the Grande Torino !
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 01 de Maio de 2014, 23:27
Citação de: Festivus em 01 de Maio de 2014, 23:23
I knew that Juventus were hated by the fans of the other Italian clubs. But these couple of weeks have shown me that not only they're hated but they're also seen as Satan himself by a large portion of Italy.
They are Satan! On youtube there are thousands of movies that talk about their robberies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXvFDg5lQS0
Most of them with this song on the background: http://youtu.be/JkViy8nmLsw
Citação de: fyure em 01 de Maio de 2014, 23:31
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 01 de Maio de 2014, 22:42
Citação de: pcssousa em 01 de Maio de 2014, 22:34
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 01 de Maio de 2014, 22:32
It would be an honor if you would be commenting on our website: http://www.toro.it
I'll comment there soon, I promise.
Hope you can support us in the final and hope we can also dedicate the Cup to the Grande Torino!
We support Benfica, you're sure! Now given a asphalted also the Siviglia! On May 4, there will your players to the celebration of Turin, you'll see what a welcome! I like to think that ... The Grande Torino has taken the field with you tonight!
I think we started passing this tie when we went to Superga, and when you receive us. I hope that, in the final, all the team could go to Superga and pay homage to the Grande Torino !
(http://inthebackofthenet.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/grandetorinocolori_1304506470.jpg)
no doubt they played with us today ...
GRANDE TORINO!
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 01 de Maio de 2014, 22:42
Citação de: pcssousa em 01 de Maio de 2014, 22:34
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 01 de Maio de 2014, 22:32
It would be an honor if you would be commenting on our website: http://www.toro.it
I'll comment there soon, I promise.
Hope you can support us in the final and hope we can also dedicate the Cup to the Grande Torino!
We support Benfica, you're sure! Now given a asphalted also the Siviglia! On May 4, there will your players to the celebration of Turin, you'll see what a welcome! I like to think that ... The Grande Torino has taken the field with you tonight!
Hope this can be a renewed tie between our 2 great clubs
Hope you can suport us massively in the final!!
Pau no cu da Juve, do Pirlo e do Conte!
Very nice people at Torino´s forum, they´re asking for more of us to go there!
User @SLB 33, thanks for coming to our site, congratulations for the great Italian (I speak 100 times better than that ignorant to Conte :2funny:) we are honored with your presence, the invitation is valid for all the other brothers Benfica. http://www.toro.it/ :bandeiraslb2:
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 01 de Maio de 2014, 22:03
Congratulations! :bandeiraslb2: You are in the Final of the UEFA Cup! Benfica great! Thank you for this satisfaction! Great! Great! Great! Great! Great! They won the Best! :flagglorioso: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
:bow2:
Jorge Jesus : '' Enjoyed the support of the fans of Torino hope to have it back on 14 day '' TORINO :bow2:
Thanks for the Support Torino.
Juve Merda.
tough match
I imagined something different... we had a lot of trouble going forward and we gave away the ball too easy at times, that is not how Benfica normally plays.
Juve is very strong but this was definitely not one of our best performances.
but we did well in the back and fortunately we managed to get a result we needed to pass :slb2:
a bit worried we won't have Enzo, Markovic or Salvio for the final, but hoping we'll win this final :D
Citação de: Sadness em 02 de Maio de 2014, 00:14
Thanks for the Support Torino.
Juve Merda.
Don't you get tired of being ridiculous?
Toro mates,
I've been following and supporting Toro since the last time you were in Série B. It was when I knew about Superga's, and I remember that you had, for example, Ogbonna in your squad.
Today, I'm very proud of this connection between us. That's really amazing, it means a lot. I'm trying to go there to the final... Hope we can met O0
VIVA O BENFICA!
FORZA TORO!
Citação de: cipri_slb em 01 de Maio de 2014, 23:38
Citação de: fyure em 01 de Maio de 2014, 23:31
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 01 de Maio de 2014, 22:42
Citação de: pcssousa em 01 de Maio de 2014, 22:34
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 01 de Maio de 2014, 22:32
It would be an honor if you would be commenting on our website: http://www.toro.it
I'll comment there soon, I promise.
Hope you can support us in the final and hope we can also dedicate the Cup to the Grande Torino!
We support Benfica, you're sure! Now given a asphalted also the Siviglia! On May 4, there will your players to the celebration of Turin, you'll see what a welcome! I like to think that ... The Grande Torino has taken the field with you tonight!
I think we started passing this tie when we went to Superga, and when you receive us. I hope that, in the final, all the team could go to Superga and pay homage to the Grande Torino !
(http://inthebackofthenet.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/grandetorinocolori_1304506470.jpg)
no doubt they played with us today ...
GRANDE TORINO!
Since you have stated that banner for the Grande Torino ... I still have goose bumps, and tonight we have made another gift! Thank you!
I hope there is an opportunity for you to come visit our Stadium...
I had never seen my club be so supported by outside supporters of another club like today.
You deserve better hope that the coming years will be more fair to Torino
And it will be an honor to win the Europa League in your city were forever in our history
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 02 de Maio de 2014, 00:30
...
Since you have stated that banner for the Grande Torino ... I still have goose bumps, and tonight we have made another gift! Thank you!
Torino was always my 2nd club. O0 You must suffer enough with the mafiosi of juve.
Do you know that in the last years, many Benfica fans want Torino to be invite to the Eusebio Cup?
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eus%C3%A9bio_Cup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eus%C3%A9bio_Cup))
Although this year/nest season, after the death of Eusebio, maybe our Direction try to invite Real or Man Utd (clubs that Eusebio had a close link).
But one of these years, Torino must be invited and sure it will be a game with lots of emotion and mixed-feelings.
Citação de: pcssousa em 01 de Maio de 2014, 17:27
(http://oi57.tinypic.com/30i893l.jpg)
;D ;D ;D
I was very surprised with Maradona today, he was really supporting Juve?
Citação de: JJ SLB em 02 de Maio de 2014, 00:47
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 02 de Maio de 2014, 00:30
...
Since you have stated that banner for the Grande Torino ... I still have goose bumps, and tonight we have made another gift! Thank you!
Torino was always my 2nd club. O0 You must suffer enough with the mafiosi of juve.
Do you know that in the last years, many Benfica fans want Torino to be invite to the Eusebio Cup?
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eus%C3%A9bio_Cup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eus%C3%A9bio_Cup))
Although this year/nest season, after the death of Eusebio, maybe our Direction try to invite Real or Man Utd (clubs that Eusebio had a close link).
But one of these years, Torino must be invited and sure it will be a game with lots of emotion and mixed-feelings.
It would be a wonderful thing. You have already done a wonderful thing, exposing the banner in honor of the Grande Torino who played his last game of his life in Lisbon with Benfica. We fans of the Turin hear you Benfica fans like Brothers. This is a great great thing. You could make us one last gift ... to win the UEFA Cup in the stadium of juventus! It would be really great! Forever grateful.
Citação de: JJ SLB em 02 de Maio de 2014, 00:47
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 02 de Maio de 2014, 00:30
...
Since you have stated that banner for the Grande Torino ... I still have goose bumps, and tonight we have made another gift! Thank you!
Torino was always my 2nd club. O0 You must suffer enough with the mafiosi of juve.
Do you know that in the last years, many Benfica fans want Torino to be invite to the Eusebio Cup?
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eus%C3%A9bio_Cup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eus%C3%A9bio_Cup))
Although this year/nest season, after the death of Eusebio, maybe our Direction try to invite Real or Man Utd (clubs that Eusebio had a close link).
But one of these years, Torino must be invited and sure it will be a game with lots of emotion and mixed-feelings.
really hope we can tigh up the bond with Torino
Even exchange players and knowledge
Amici del Torino, stasera vi abbiamo ricordato!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/10308158_10203583388924672_798636811569514159_n.jpg)
(https://scontent-b-mxp.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1.0-9/p480x480/10302230_762627050434268_5244787323711973388_n.jpg)
Justice is served, 21 years in the making.
Goodbye, Calciocaos.
next time we'll play with 8!!!!
When the semi-final adversaries were drawn:
Pirlo: "Benfica? I feel sorry for them"
Llorente: "I'd like to play in Spain but we're gonna play the final against a Spanish team"
(http://d24w6bsrhbeh9d.cloudfront.net/photo/aYbPn7O_460sa.gif)
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 02 de Maio de 2014, 01:01
Citação de: JJ SLB em 02 de Maio de 2014, 00:47
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 02 de Maio de 2014, 00:30
...
Since you have stated that banner for the Grande Torino ... I still have goose bumps, and tonight we have made another gift! Thank you!
Torino was always my 2nd club. O0 You must suffer enough with the mafiosi of juve.
Do you know that in the last years, many Benfica fans want Torino to be invite to the Eusebio Cup?
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eus%C3%A9bio_Cup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eus%C3%A9bio_Cup))
Although this year/nest season, after the death of Eusebio, maybe our Direction try to invite Real or Man Utd (clubs that Eusebio had a close link).
But one of these years, Torino must be invited and sure it will be a game with lots of emotion and mixed-feelings.
It would be a wonderful thing. You have already done a wonderful thing, exposing the banner in honor of the Grande Torino who played his last game of his life in Lisbon with Benfica. We fans of the Turin hear you Benfica fans like Brothers. This is a great great thing. You could make us one last gift ... to win the UEFA Cup in the stadium of juventus! It would be really great! Forever grateful.
We want Immobile & Cerci... you can have Deyverson (tremendou striker with a great future very fast with great flair) Filip Markovic (identical twin of Lazar) and Artur Moraes (great keeper very good aerial ability and agility)
hi ev'ryone....i'm here to congratulate with benfica...you deserved the final, and a couple of academy award for the last 10 mnutes of the game but i do think your team is stronger than ours....sorry but i hope your tradition of lost finals keeps going on...
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 02 de Maio de 2014, 01:01
Citação de: JJ SLB em 02 de Maio de 2014, 00:47
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 02 de Maio de 2014, 00:30
...
Since you have stated that banner for the Grande Torino ... I still have goose bumps, and tonight we have made another gift! Thank you!
Torino was always my 2nd club. O0 You must suffer enough with the mafiosi of juve.
Do you know that in the last years, many Benfica fans want Torino to be invite to the Eusebio Cup?
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eus%C3%A9bio_Cup (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eus%C3%A9bio_Cup))
Although this year/nest season, after the death of Eusebio, maybe our Direction try to invite Real or Man Utd (clubs that Eusebio had a close link).
But one of these years, Torino must be invited and sure it will be a game with lots of emotion and mixed-feelings.
It would be a wonderful thing. You have already done a wonderful thing, exposing the banner in honor of the Grande Torino who played his last game of his life in Lisbon with Benfica. We fans of the Turin hear you Benfica fans like Brothers. This is a great great thing. You could make us one last gift ... to win the UEFA Cup in the stadium of juventus! It would be really great! Forever grateful.
hi, cow, you can be happy only about other team's victory...how pathetic is?
Hello Varzim fan
Strong butthurt detected.
Citação de: Darkboy em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:30
Strong butthurt detected.
benfica is a very good team and deserves the final....maybe benfiquista fans dont deserve it that much...
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:18
hi ev'ryone....i'm here to congratulate with benfica...you deserved the final, and a couple of academy award for the last 10 mnutes of the game but i do think your team is stronger than ours....sorry but i hope your tradition of lost finals keeps going on...
:tonge: :tonge:
Citação de: Lm27 em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:36
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:18
hi ev'ryone....i'm here to congratulate with benfica...you deserved the final, and a couple of academy award for the last 10 mnutes of the game but i do think your team is stronger than ours....sorry but i hope your tradition of lost finals keeps going on...
:tonge: :tonge:
well...it's all about football, we didnt have to be in that situation so i cant complain...
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:35
Citação de: Darkboy em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:30
Strong butthurt detected.
benfica is a very good team and deserves the final....maybe benfiquista fans dont deserve it that much...
What do you know about Benfica history or fans to say that "Benfica fans don't deserve it"?
For example, there were 500 of you in Lisbon and 2000 of us in Turim. And could easily have been 4000 or 6000 benfiquistas in the stands, had you sent more tickets.
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:35
Citação de: Darkboy em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:30
Strong butthurt detected.
benfica is a very good team and deserves the final....maybe benfiquista fans dont deserve it that much...
We don't deserve it? We lost all in the last year. We deserve more than anyone. You won in the 90s.
Take a pill, man!
Citação de: Diogo20 em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:41
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:35
Citação de: Darkboy em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:30
Strong butthurt detected.
benfica is a very good team and deserves the final....maybe benfiquista fans dont deserve it that much...
We don't deserve it? We lost all in the last year. We deserve more than anyone. You won in the 90s.
Take a pill, man!
aint talkin' about benfica team but benfica fans who consider truthful uncritically some stupid lies written by the cows and keep on insulting juventus team and juventus fans, i dont speak and write portuguese but i understand the insults...
Citação de: Darkboy em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:40
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:35
Citação de: Darkboy em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:30
Strong butthurt detected.
benfica is a very good team and deserves the final....maybe benfiquista fans dont deserve it that much...
What do you know about Benfica history or fans to say that "Benfica fans don't deserve it"?
For example, there were 500 of you in Lisbon and 2000 of us in Turim. And could easily have been 4000 or 6000 benfiquistas in the stands, had you sent more tickets.
maximum respect for benfica history... but there's some insult and some relationship i cant respect that much
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:49
Citação de: Diogo20 em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:41
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:35
Citação de: Darkboy em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:30
Strong butthurt detected.
benfica is a very good team and deserves the final....maybe benfiquista fans dont deserve it that much...
We don't deserve it? We lost all in the last year. We deserve more than anyone. You won in the 90s.
Take a pill, man!
aint talkin' about benfica team but benfica fans who consider truthful uncritically some stupid lies written by the cows and keep on insulting juventus team and juventus fans, i dont speak and write portuguese but i understand the insults...
We are always with our team. What Juventus did with the attempt of taking Enzo Pérez of the 2nd hand was disrespectful and we argue against that. We insulted who?
We are in a forum, everyone talks shit on the Internet. But if it is outside of the Internet, I didn't heard any insults.
Unlike you guys, we don't show stripes insulting rivals clubs like you did with Torino.
We are used to hear that whining about we show disrespect. But here in Portugal we are loved by all and hated by all. Nevertheless, the others are the ones who chant anti-Benfica singings. We never chant anti-anyone.
There's a portuguese saying that goes like this:
Take some strawberrys!
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:49
Citação de: Diogo20 em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:41
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:35
Citação de: Darkboy em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:30
Strong butthurt detected.
benfica is a very good team and deserves the final....maybe benfiquista fans dont deserve it that much...
We don't deserve it? We lost all in the last year. We deserve more than anyone. You won in the 90s.
Take a pill, man!
aint talkin' about benfica team but benfica fans who consider truthful uncritically some stupid lies written by the cows and keep on insulting juventus team and juventus fans, i dont speak and write portuguese but i understand the insults...
Conte was the one who lied yesterday. Honestly? I think you should be ashamed of his words, I think he embarrassed the club.
Since you wish us to lose the final, I guess I'll have to wish you to lose each and every competition you enter... Nah... Truly don't care about you and hate doesn't have much space in my heart.
Hope you can recover soon... Remember, sometimes we win, sometimes we lose, and the ones who don't can't face defeats don't deserve to win.
To all the Juventus fans here, that show fair-play: thanks for the sportsmanship and good luck for the rest of the season.
Citação de: Diogo20 em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:56
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:49
Citação de: Diogo20 em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:41
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:35
Citação de: Darkboy em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:30
Strong butthurt detected.
benfica is a very good team and deserves the final....maybe benfiquista fans dont deserve it that much...
We don't deserve it? We lost all in the last year. We deserve more than anyone. You won in the 90s.
Take a pill, man!
aint talkin' about benfica team but benfica fans who consider truthful uncritically some stupid lies written by the cows and keep on insulting juventus team and juventus fans, i dont speak and write portuguese but i understand the insults...
We are always with our team. What Juventus did with the attempt of taking Enzo Pérez of the 2nd hand was disrespectful and we argue against that. We insulted who?
We are in a forum, everyone talks shit on the Internet. But if it is outside of the Internet, I didn't heard any insults.
Unlike you guys, we don't show stripes insulting rivals clubs like you did with Torino.
We are used to hear that whining about we show disrespect. But here in Portugal we are loved by all and hated by all. Nevertheless, the others are the ones who chant anti-Benfica singings. We never chant anti-anyone.
first, with enzo perez there was chiellini too under investigation...
second, many times here i read words like mafia or similar connected to juventus
third, if you see well there are stripes insulting our heysel's 39 from turin, and not only, fans evry sunday
four, in italy we have more than 10 mln fans, the others hate us, lie about us, some times kill us... we have our rivalries but we dont have anything with benfiquista fans so hear from you about mafia or similar only cause cows tell you lies...
Citação de: pcssousa em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:00
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:49
Citação de: Diogo20 em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:41
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:35
Citação de: Darkboy em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:30
Strong butthurt detected.
benfica is a very good team and deserves the final....maybe benfiquista fans dont deserve it that much...
We don't deserve it? We lost all in the last year. We deserve more than anyone. You won in the 90s.
Take a pill, man!
aint talkin' about benfica team but benfica fans who consider truthful uncritically some stupid lies written by the cows and keep on insulting juventus team and juventus fans, i dont speak and write portuguese but i understand the insults...
Conte was the one who lied yesterday. Honestly? I think you should be ashamed of his words, I think he embarrassed the club.
Since you wish us to lose the final, I guess I'll have to wish you to lose each and every competition you enter... Nah... Truly don't care about you and hate doesn't have much space in my heart.
Hope you can recover soon... Remember, sometimes we win, sometimes we lose, and the ones who don't can't face defeats don't deserve to win.
honestly i dont like what conte said yesterday, i think just to protect his players, however i dont like complaining bout referee who was no good, but in the complex, he likes too much whistling, but i cant feel shame for things i dont say or do...
i wish you lose the final just cause i've read the word mafia or corruption linked to juventus too many times in only 3/4 times i joined this forum, just because of your friendship with turin friends, the cows...
talkin about the match i already gave my congratulations cause you deserved to play the final showing to be a stronger team than us but for the reasons above i have to hope sevilla to win the el...
I'm sorry Lucypher, you as i believe most of Juventus fans, of course doesn't have fault for the reputation of your club.
Juventus could be known for many good things or players you had in the past... but it's undeniable that your club (at least) was, corrupt.
We, Benfica fans, for the past 20+ years have been fighting againts an incredible Corrupt club and President (of Porto), so we are more "sensetive" to this things. And thats why you won't hear many good things about Juventus from our fans.
And than there's Platini and UEFA, who everyone hates, wich happens to be a Juventus fan... its too much!
But again, you and the fans don't have fault.
Man, I live 100km from Sevilla and, belive me, one thing some Sevillistas from across the border told me was "I don't want to play the final against those corrupt bastards, I want Benfica to pass".
Everybody in Spain says this about you. Marca newspaper, wich is the biggest sports newspaper in the world, also wrote it a couple of years ago.
I don't know if Juventus is corrupt or not, but everybody says so, all over the world.
CONGRATULATIONS GUYS ...
I HOPE you win THE CUP :bandeiraslb2:
I hoped until the last second in one of our goals, nothing ... Benfica has held up very well.
Citação de: L3GEND em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:18
I'm sorry Lucypher, you as i believe most of Juventus fans, of course doesn't have fault for the reputation of your club.
Juventus could be known for many good things or players you had in the past... but it's undeniable that your club (at least) was, corrupt.We, Benfica fans, for the past 20+ years have been fighting againts an incredible Corrupt club and President (of Porto), so we are more "sensetive" to this things. And thats why you won't hear many good things about Juventus from our fans.
And than there's Platini and UEFA, who everyone hates, wich happens to be a Juventus fan... its too much!
But again, you and the fans don't have fault.
sure about it? you know why and how court arrived to the decision? did you study the trial acts? just becaus cows say so? what do you know about italy and what's happening here the last years? you insult juventus just because of what turin fans say, it's like hating jewish people because of what nazi used to state...
this is guilty superficiality and it's a good reason to hope you to lose...
platini was a juventus player but he's a politician...he loves us so much that we had to play in the turkish mud....
Citação de: pcssousa em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:23
Man, I live 100km from Sevilla and, belive me, one thing some Sevillistas from across the border told me was "I don't want to play the final against those corrupt bastards, I want Benfica to pass".
Everybody in Spain says this about you. Marca newspaper, wich is the biggest sports newspaper in the world, also wrote it a couple of years ago.
I don't know if Juventus is corrupt or not, but everybody says so, all over the world.
in case of final i would have been happy to discuss with sevillistas too...
however i dont care, i dont think i will watch the final, hope ill have something betetr to do
lucypher I dedicate this music to you and your coach: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDIaDS9HhMw&feature=kp
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:17I wish you lose the final just cause i've read the word mafia or corruption linked to juventus too many times in only 3/4 times i joined this forum, just because of your friendship with turin friends, the cows...
Benfica has a historical and friendly relationship with Torino due to the tragedy of 1949. Surely, you can understand that, right?
We don't have any rivalry with Juventus: you're in Italy, we're in Portugal. It was normal to hear some provocations from the fans on each side during this heated tie - afterall, a final of an European competition was at stake - but those things are just part of football. Sure, our fans called you "thieves" and "mafia" but that's an image you'll never get rid of on the international stage. In fact, Italian football as a whole will never get rid of the image of corruption since it's so ingrained there. You are considered to be corrupt not just here in Portugal, but everywhere else as well. We didn't invent it, for God's sake! We just hit you in a soft spot and you got offended. That's kind of expectable. What I didn't expect was that your club should get offended at the banner honouring Torino's memory. That was just depressing on your part.
Nevertheless, it was clear from the get-go that your team underestimated us. Pirlo and Llorente practically took the victory for granted and that sort of disrespect just fueled the animosity from our fans. Then, the issue with Enzo Pérez was simply just a cheap shot and showed lack of class on your part. After that episode, there was no turning back. After the game, Conte was even worse, showing lack of class and an overall pathetic evaluation of what actually went on on the pitch. But that's his problem now, and yours, not ours.
As for the final in Turin, I understand that you wish Sevilla to win it. I don't take it personally. You're frustrated, that's fine. I do hope Torino fans help us there. It will certainly be an exciting event and I hope we finally clinch it.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:31
CONGRATULATIONS GUYS ...
I HOPE you win THE CUP :bandeiraslb2:
I hoped until the last second in one of our goals, nothing ... Benfica has held up very well.
Cheers for the fair-play during the pre and post semi-finals, Juventino. O0
Good luck in Serie A and next season Champions League.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:31
CONGRATULATIONS GUYS ...
I HOPE you win THE CUP :bandeiraslb2:
I hoped until the last second in one of our goals, nothing ... Benfica has held up very well.
Thank you Juventino!
You're club might not have the best reputation in the world, and i know you could have a rough time here since many of us don't like your club very much, but i have nothing but respect for you!
You're a great sport. And congratulations for your Seria A title! ;)
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:31
CONGRATULATIONS GUYS ...
I HOPE you win THE CUP :bandeiraslb2:
I hoped until the last second in one of our goals, nothing ... Benfica has held up very well.
Thank you Juventino, for your sportmanship and respect. Wish you all the best with Vecchia Signora.
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:35
Citação de: Darkboy em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:30
Strong butthurt detected.
benfica is a very good team and deserves the final....maybe benfiquista fans dont deserve it that much...
What?
You should be ashamed of yourself for defendig a club without honour and fairplay
If you mess wih the bull...
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:31
Citação de: L3GEND em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:18
I'm sorry Lucypher, you as i believe most of Juventus fans, of course doesn't have fault for the reputation of your club.
Juventus could be known for many good things or players you had in the past... but it's undeniable that your club (at least) was, corrupt.We, Benfica fans, for the past 20+ years have been fighting againts an incredible Corrupt club and President (of Porto), so we are more "sensetive" to this things. And thats why you won't hear many good things about Juventus from our fans.
And than there's Platini and UEFA, who everyone hates, wich happens to be a Juventus fan... its too much!
But again, you and the fans don't have fault.
sure about it? you know why and how court arrived to the decision? did you study the trial acts? just becaus cows say so? what do you know about italy and what's happening here the last years? you insult juventus just because of what turin fans say, it's like hating jewish people because of what nazi used to state...
this is guilty superficiality and it's a good reason to hope you to lose...
platini was a juventus player but he's a politician...he loves us so much that we had to play in the turkish mud....
lost time, Lucypehr ...
I have often asked those who argued that the juventus steals in retrospect not accuse without knowledge ... but some (not all of course) the answer is always the same: "Everyone says that the juve steals" .
goodbye guys... nothing keeps me here, hope you'll find better relathionships than cows and remember... before to judge other people in other countries be sure to know facts well and not de relato... many people in italy, not juventus fans but impartial, are reevaluating farsopoli as it is...a sham
I have a lot of respect for juve fans, I have some italian friends and they are all juventinos. I criticize some behavior of juventus staff, and of course who don't respect me and benfiquistas, like your shity coach.
Citação de: cavpacores em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:38
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:35
Citação de: Darkboy em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:30
Strong butthurt detected.
benfica is a very good team and deserves the final....maybe benfiquista fans dont deserve it that much...
What?
You should be ashamed of yourself for defendig a club without honour and fairplay
If you mess wih the bull...
what you know about it? what cows say? many people say not too well about portuguese people, do i have to believe it? come on
I am pretty certain that Juve steals. But I also know that other Italian teams steal, like Milan, Inter, Fiorentina, Roma, etc. It's part of Italian football culture in particular and Southern European culture as a whole. It's nothing new.
Again, I don't have anything personal against Juve. From among the big three in Italy, it was the one I actually sympathised with the most. But in this tie, they showed lack of class and unsportmanship. Sure, it will all be pretty much forgotten in a few months time anyway. No need to get too hung up about it.
By the way, thanks for your kind words, Juventino. You're a good fellow.
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:31
Citação de: L3GEND em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:18
I'm sorry Lucypher, you as i believe most of Juventus fans, of course doesn't have fault for the reputation of your club.
Juventus could be known for many good things or players you had in the past... but it's undeniable that your club (at least) was, corrupt.We, Benfica fans, for the past 20+ years have been fighting againts an incredible Corrupt club and President (of Porto), so we are more "sensetive" to this things. And thats why you won't hear many good things about Juventus from our fans.
And than there's Platini and UEFA, who everyone hates, wich happens to be a Juventus fan... its too much!
But again, you and the fans don't have fault.
sure about it? you know why and how court arrived to the decision? did you study the trial acts? just becaus cows say so? what do you know about italy and what's happening here the last years? you insult juventus just because of what turin fans say, it's like hating jewish people because of what nazi used to state...
this is guilty superficiality and it's a good reason to hope you to lose...
platini was a juventus player but he's a politician...he loves us so much that we had to play in the turkish mud....
Are you serious, man?
I'm gonna pretend i didn't read what you said, and the comparisons that you made.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:31
CONGRATULATIONS GUYS ...
I HOPE you win THE CUP :bandeiraslb2:
I hoped until the last second in one of our goals, nothing ... Benfica has held up very well.
Juventino, maximum respect for you as a sportsman
Really sad for all the behaviour of Juventus in this stage but really pleased to your adiction to our forum
Really hope you can stick around and, talking in my behalf, I´m sorry for the insults I may profer this days.
Really understand that as a fan you don ´t have fault of the coach and club behaviour
Hope you can celebrate the Scudetto nevertheless
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:41
Citação de: cavpacores em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:38
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:35
Citação de: Darkboy em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:30
Strong butthurt detected.
benfica is a very good team and deserves the final....maybe benfiquista fans dont deserve it that much...
What?
You should be ashamed of yourself for defendig a club without honour and fairplay
If you mess wih the bull...
what you know about it? what cows say? many people say not too well about portuguese people, do i have to believe it? come on
Well, I known what I saw
The arrogancy shown by your players
The incredible denial to Benfica show the banner honouring Superga
The feeling of provocation because our fans did it anyway
The complaint trying to punish Enzo when Chiellini also shoves Maxi Pereira and a penalty was denied to us
The unbeliaveble words of Conte yestarday
The provocations to our bench and players
Nothing to do with TOrino...
Just what it was visible or do you denied that this happened?
Citação de: Gottschalk em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:43
I am pretty certain that Juve steals. But I also know that other Italian teams steal, like Milan, Inter, Fiorentina, Roma, etc. It's part of Italian football culture in particular and Southern European culture as a whole. It's nothing new.
Again, I don't have anything personal against Juve. From among the big three in Italy, it was the one I actually sympathised with the most. But in this tie, they showed lack of class and unsportmanship. Sure, it will all be pretty much forgotten in a few months time anyway. No need to get too hung up about it.
By the way, thanks for your kind words, Juventino. You're a good fellow.
Thank you.
But I can not forget that ever since I came to this topic fans of the "Bull" or Inter ... many of you have followed them and you are left free to go to insults against juve ...
anyway ... I appreciate those who wanted to discuss with me without any prejudice
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:38
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:31
Citação de: L3GEND em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:18
I'm sorry Lucypher, you as i believe most of Juventus fans, of course doesn't have fault for the reputation of your club.
Juventus could be known for many good things or players you had in the past... but it's undeniable that your club (at least) was, corrupt.We, Benfica fans, for the past 20+ years have been fighting againts an incredible Corrupt club and President (of Porto), so we are more "sensetive" to this things. And thats why you won't hear many good things about Juventus from our fans.
And than there's Platini and UEFA, who everyone hates, wich happens to be a Juventus fan... its too much!
But again, you and the fans don't have fault.
sure about it? you know why and how court arrived to the decision? did you study the trial acts? just becaus cows say so? what do you know about italy and what's happening here the last years? you insult juventus just because of what turin fans say, it's like hating jewish people because of what nazi used to state...
this is guilty superficiality and it's a good reason to hope you to lose...
platini was a juventus player but he's a politician...he loves us so much that we had to play in the turkish mud....
lost time, Lucypehr ...
I have often asked those who argued that the juventus steals in retrospect not accuse without knowledge ... but some (not all of course) the answer is always the same: "Everyone says that the juve steals" .
Juventus isn't the only one guilty in the Calciocaos thing, i tell you that much.
For example, this three last Seria A's that you won (this year you will eventually win), you were by very, very far the best team and deserved completely to win.
Citação de: Gottschalk em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:43
I am pretty certain that Juve steals. But I also know that other Italian teams steal, like Milan, Inter, Fiorentina, Roma, etc. It's part of Italian football culture in particular and Southern European culture as a whole. It's nothing new.
Again, I don't have anything personal against Juve. From among the big three in Italy, it was the one I actually sympathised with the most. But in this tie, they showed lack of class and unsportmanship. Sure, it will all be pretty much forgotten in a few months time anyway. No need to get too hung up about it.
By the way, thanks for your kind words, Juventino. You're a good fellow.
My opinion is similar.
I think for myself, I don't believe in everything that the other italians anti-juve say. Because I know very well the style of "antis".
I just didn't like that stupid behavior of some juventinos and your coach after the game. I know how hard it is when you lose, but is in that times when you see how good is your club.
Last year we lose everything at 92 minute, as maybe all of you know. But after amsterdam a lot of benfiquistas was in airport supporting the team. This year we were there again, and we will be after the final for sure with any result that happen in that final.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:49
Citação de: Gottschalk em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:43
I am pretty certain that Juve steals. But I also know that other Italian teams steal, like Milan, Inter, Fiorentina, Roma, etc. It's part of Italian football culture in particular and Southern European culture as a whole. It's nothing new.
Again, I don't have anything personal against Juve. From among the big three in Italy, it was the one I actually sympathised with the most. But in this tie, they showed lack of class and unsportmanship. Sure, it will all be pretty much forgotten in a few months time anyway. No need to get too hung up about it.
By the way, thanks for your kind words, Juventino. You're a good fellow.
Thank you.
But I can not forget that ever since I came to this topic fans of the "Bull" or Inter ... many of you have followed them and you are left free to go to insults against juve ...
anyway ... I appreciate those who wanted to discuss with me without any prejudice
You have to interpret that in the context of the stage and the actions taken by your club
Despite that most of us tried to make you welcome here
For me, you (Juventus) have a problem.
You didn´t understand yet that is not all about having great players
And you can not be so dependent of Pirlo. It´s predictible
I think you need good Wingers and maybe modify your tactics
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:49
Thank you.
But I can not forget that ever since I came to this topic fans of the "Bull" or Inter ... many of you have followed them and you are left free to go to insults against juve ...
anyway ... I appreciate those who wanted to discuss with me without any prejudice
I understand your frustration but this is just part of online interactions. Here you are, at a foreign club's forum, and you read insults to your team. I understand that you're between a rock and a hard place and I do admire your calm behaviour.
In any case, you must remember that fans come in all colours and shapes and that Juventus' attitude during this tie didn't quite help to show another image of the club in the eyes of most our fans.
Furthermore, if you add to that a historical friendly relationship with Torino, your city rival, and it becomes even worse. But I do believe that once everything calms down, it's quite possible to keep interacting with civility and respect.
As I said before, Juventino, in a few months time most people won't even remember these provocations.
Citação de: cavpacores em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:48
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:41
Citação de: cavpacores em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:38
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:35
Citação de: Darkboy em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:30
Strong butthurt detected.
benfica is a very good team and deserves the final....maybe benfiquista fans dont deserve it that much...
What?
You should be ashamed of yourself for defendig a club without honour and fairplay
If you mess wih the bull...
what you know about it? what cows say? many people say not too well about portuguese people, do i have to believe it? come on
Well, I known what I saw
The arrogancy shown by your players
The incredible denial to Benfica show the banner honouring Superga
The feeling of provocation because our fans did it anyway
The complaint trying to punish Enzo when Chiellini also shoves Maxi Pereira and a penalty was denied to us
The unbeliaveble words of Conte yestarday
The provocations to our bench and players
Nothing to do with TOrino...
Just what it was visible or do you denied that this happened?
LUcypher...expecting the answer!!
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:31
CONGRATULATIONS GUYS ...
I HOPE you win THE CUP :bandeiraslb2:
I hoped until the last second in one of our goals, nothing ... Benfica has held up very well.
You're such a character. Please, stay in the forum, don't leave. :-)
Citação de: Jotenko em 02 de Maio de 2014, 12:51
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:31
CONGRATULATIONS GUYS ...
I HOPE you win THE CUP :bandeiraslb2:
I hoped until the last second in one of our goals, nothing ... Benfica has held up very well.
You're such a character. Please, stay in the forum, don't leave. :-)
Showing the love!!
Citação de: cavpacores em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:58
Citação de: cavpacores em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:48
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:41
Citação de: cavpacores em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:38
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:35
Citação de: Darkboy em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:30
Strong butthurt detected.
benfica is a very good team and deserves the final....maybe benfiquista fans dont deserve it that much...
What?
You should be ashamed of yourself for defendig a club without honour and fairplay
If you mess wih the bull...
what you know about it? what cows say? many people say not too well about portuguese people, do i have to believe it? come on
Well, I known what I saw
The arrogancy shown by your players
The incredible denial to Benfica show the banner honouring Superga
The feeling of provocation because our fans did it anyway
The complaint trying to punish Enzo when Chiellini also shoves Maxi Pereira and a penalty was denied to us
The unbeliaveble words of Conte yestarday
The provocations to our bench and players
Nothing to do with TOrino...
Just what it was visible or do you denied that this happened?
LUcypher...expecting the answer!!
well, i think that since the drawing day there's been a lot of tension...
the arrogancy shown by a couple of our players
benfica's release about platini and the favours he was supposed to give us...
tension increased by the fact that torino fans are our worse enemies and you are their friend (many people who went to see the match read or know about the things written in this forum about maia or corruption)
about enzo perez...tv proof is a legal process...we had players disqualified too
conte...well i didnt like his excuses too, even if he did it to keep players unresposible and calm...
provocations? i know there's been an argument between vucinic and markovic, maybe something etnic
your attitude, the last 20 minutes, didnt help.... every player of yours falling down to the ground, but garay of course, looked like hit by a thunder...
i think there's been a lot of tension...but it's a football thing, nothing to do with corruption or mafia... i cant wait to see atletico-real ;D
Citação de: cavpacores em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:56
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:49
Citação de: Gottschalk em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:43
I am pretty certain that Juve steals. But I also know that other Italian teams steal, like Milan, Inter, Fiorentina, Roma, etc. It's part of Italian football culture in particular and Southern European culture as a whole. It's nothing new.
Again, I don't have anything personal against Juve. From among the big three in Italy, it was the one I actually sympathised with the most. But in this tie, they showed lack of class and unsportmanship. Sure, it will all be pretty much forgotten in a few months time anyway. No need to get too hung up about it.
By the way, thanks for your kind words, Juventino. You're a good fellow.
Thank you.
But I can not forget that ever since I came to this topic fans of the "Bull" or Inter ... many of you have followed them and you are left free to go to insults against juve ...
anyway ... I appreciate those who wanted to discuss with me without any prejudice
You have to interpret that in the context of the stage and the actions taken by your club
Despite that most of us tried to make you welcome here
For me, you (Juventus) have a problem.
You didn´t understand yet that is not all about having great players
And you can not be so dependent of Pirlo. It´s predictible
I think you need good Wingers and maybe modify your tactics
this is fully sharable but until we win, 3 in a row it's a lot in italy, and 'til pirlo is alive i dont think conte will change so much... but if you wanna give us gaitan and salvio maybe we can make conte change :smokin:
I can not have respect for a club that reminds me FC Porto...
The cry of the coach, the complaints of form to upset and lose your bad.
Any resemblance is purely coincidental
We were robbed in the first game, kept silent and did our part.
I hate prejudices and stereotypes, in this case when I saw some users with connection italian-mafia and corruption I feel ashamed, but I want to believe that is something that this guys just said with that tension of the game and don't really feel it.
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:44
I can not have respect for a club that reminds me FC Porto...
The cry of the coach, the complaints of form to upset and lose your bad.
Any resemblance is purely coincidental
and your crying after the drawing day about platini and his supposed favours? your shameful waste of time the last 20 minutes yesterday?
it's all about football baby and the tension of a semifinal...if referee was our "friend" he had to give us a penalty for a hand foul, he didnt and he did well cause it wasnt crystal clear...
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:37
[...]
provocations? i know there's been an argument between vucinic and markovic, maybe something etnic
[...]
There was nothing between Vucinic and Markovic: http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Serie-A/Juventus/02-05-2014/juventus-vucinic-lite-era-artur-markovic-non-c-entrava-nulla-80561348837.shtml
It's unfair for Markovic, who is friend of Vucinic and just try to calm him down, and now will lose the final.
To all the Juventus fans here:
What started the problems and bad mouthing, was the comments of your team players, and your idiot coach last night, and of course, a desperate attempt to kick one of our best players out of the decisive game.
Still, you are going to win the Championish, you are a strong team, and our game was the most intense and passionate semi-finals this year.
To all the nice Juventus fans here, i know how bad it must feel to lose a Final in your home, so cheer up, and don´t feel teased by some comments.
Citação de: RubbaDub em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:56
To all the Juventus fans here:
What started the problems and bad mouthing, was the comments of your team players, and your idiot coach last night, and of course, a desperate attempt to kick one of our best players out of the decisive game.
Still, you are going to win the Championish, you are a strong team, and our game was the most intense and passionate semi-finals this year.
To all the nice Juventus fans here, i know how bad it must feel to lose a Final in your home, so cheer up, and don´t feel teased by some comments.
i came here, and like me other users of tifosibianconeri.com the same day of the drawing and there already were people connecting juve with mafia or corruption and this is what i dont like, losing or winning is part of the game and the pain i feel todey will turn to joy the next win...
Citação de: Vitor84 em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:54
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:37
[...]
provocations? i know there's been an argument between vucinic and markovic, maybe something etnic
[...]
There was nothing between Vucinic and Markovic: http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Serie-A/Juventus/02-05-2014/juventus-vucinic-lite-era-artur-markovic-non-c-entrava-nulla-80561348837.shtml
It's unfair for Markovic, who is friend of Vucinic and just try to calm him down, and now will lose the final.
i tell you what i've seen on tv but if there's been an argument it must be by both sides, sorry for markovic who is a very good player but i dont know what the ref saw, maybe he did a mistake but sure one of yours was involved...
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 14:04
Citação de: Vitor84 em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:54
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:37
[...]
provocations? i know there's been an argument between vucinic and markovic, maybe something etnic
[...]
There was nothing between Vucinic and Markovic: http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Serie-A/Juventus/02-05-2014/juventus-vucinic-lite-era-artur-markovic-non-c-entrava-nulla-80561348837.shtml
It's unfair for Markovic, who is friend of Vucinic and just try to calm him down, and now will lose the final.
i tell you what i've seen on tv but if there's been an argument it must be by both sides, sorry for markovic who is a very good player but i dont know what the ref saw, maybe he did a mistake but sure one of yours was involved...
Was something with Artur the goalkeeper.
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:53
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:44
I can not have respect for a club that reminds me FC Porto...
The cry of the coach, the complaints of form to upset and lose your bad.
Any resemblance is purely coincidental
and your crying after the drawing day about platini and his supposed favours? your shameful waste of time the last 20 minutes yesterday?
it's all about football baby and the tension of a semifinal...if referee was our "friend" he had to give us a penalty for a hand foul, he didnt and he did well cause it wasnt crystal clear...
Oh fuck off!
You played ten minutes with more two players lost because they are stupid and we are better as a team
Go home Juventude Mafiosa :smokin:
I think that we won't have any spanish guys here 'cause as we know, they hate english... ;D
If you want to blame someone blame yourselves...
Pirlo, Llorente talking as if they had in final
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 14:00
Citação de: RubbaDub em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:56
To all the Juventus fans here:
What started the problems and bad mouthing, was the comments of your team players, and your idiot coach last night, and of course, a desperate attempt to kick one of our best players out of the decisive game.
Still, you are going to win the Championish, you are a strong team, and our game was the most intense and passionate semi-finals this year.
To all the nice Juventus fans here, i know how bad it must feel to lose a Final in your home, so cheer up, and don´t feel teased by some comments.
i came here, and like me other users of tifosibianconeri.com the same day of the drawing and there already were people connecting juve with mafia or corruption and this is what i dont like, losing or winning is part of the game and the pain i feel todey will turn to joy the next win...
That´s the fame Juventus has dude, like the user
pcsousa said, you guys paid for it, and got back up, but since we have a corrupt team here too, who doesn´t get punished, some people take frustrations on juve on the heat of the semi-finals, it reminds them of porto, the main enemy basicly, like i said, don´t feel teased.
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Maio de 2014, 14:15
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:53
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:44
I can not have respect for a club that reminds me FC Porto...
The cry of the coach, the complaints of form to upset and lose your bad.
Any resemblance is purely coincidental
and your crying after the drawing day about platini and his supposed favours? your shameful waste of time the last 20 minutes yesterday?
it's all about football baby and the tension of a semifinal...if referee was our "friend" he had to give us a penalty for a hand foul, he didnt and he did well cause it wasnt crystal clear...
Oh fuck off!
You played ten minutes with more two players lost because they are stupid and we are better as a team
if you read my previous posts i wrote that you deserved the final and that benfica has a more balanced and strong lineup...
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Maio de 2014, 14:18
If you want to blame someone blame yourselves...
Pirlo, Llorente talking as if they had in final
in fact i didnt like those statements...
What about your coach, Conte? Is he already crying?
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 14:22
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Maio de 2014, 14:15
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:53
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:44
I can not have respect for a club that reminds me FC Porto...
The cry of the coach, the complaints of form to upset and lose your bad.
Any resemblance is purely coincidental
and your crying after the drawing day about platini and his supposed favours? your shameful waste of time the last 20 minutes yesterday?
it's all about football baby and the tension of a semifinal...if referee was our "friend" he had to give us a penalty for a hand foul, he didnt and he did well cause it wasnt crystal clear...
Oh fuck off!
You played ten minutes with more two players lost because they are stupid and we are better as a team
if you read my previous posts i wrote that you deserved the final and that benfica has a more balanced and strong lineup...
So do not understand why talk of arbitration ...
Had all hypotheses, 11 against 9 ten minutes!
For me all the supporters are welcome ...
But to be on this forum have to have some kind of sympathy for our team...
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Maio de 2014, 14:26
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 14:22
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Maio de 2014, 14:15
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:53
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:44
I can not have respect for a club that reminds me FC Porto...
The cry of the coach, the complaints of form to upset and lose your bad.
Any resemblance is purely coincidental
and your crying after the drawing day about platini and his supposed favours? your shameful waste of time the last 20 minutes yesterday?
it's all about football baby and the tension of a semifinal...if referee was our "friend" he had to give us a penalty for a hand foul, he didnt and he did well cause it wasnt crystal clear...
Oh fuck off!
You played ten minutes with more two players lost because they are stupid and we are better as a team
if you read my previous posts i wrote that you deserved the final and that benfica has a more balanced and strong lineup...
So do not understand why talk of arbitration ...
Had all hypotheses, 11 against 9 ten minutes!
i wasnt complaining about ref, i dont like to do it and i dont like conte's compaints even if he does it to keep players calm and focused on the title...
Citação de: delduin em 02 de Maio de 2014, 14:25
What about your coach, Conte? Is he already crying?
i hope he's thinkin' about atalanta...
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Maio de 2014, 14:15
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:53
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:44
I can not have respect for a club that reminds me FC Porto...
The cry of the coach, the complaints of form to upset and lose your bad.
Any resemblance is purely coincidental
and your crying after the drawing day about platini and his supposed favours? your shameful waste of time the last 20 minutes yesterday?
it's all about football baby and the tension of a semifinal...if referee was our "friend" he had to give us a penalty for a hand foul, he didnt and he did well cause it wasnt crystal clear...
Oh fuck off!
You played ten minutes with more two players lost because they are stupid and we are better as a team
YOU HAVE REASON TO 10 MINUTES the juventus played in numerical superiority, it is also true that (rightly) that in those 10 minutes Benfica looked like a wall.
It was almost impossible to overcome your defensive line.
In the end, the verdict of the field always tells the truth: The benfica (in the two games he deserved to play in the final).
it is also true (and you will have to admit in all honesty) ... the game yesterday saw the juventus always try to score a goal, and you have held up very well the impact. You have been dangerous only a couple of times.
Llorente is very strong, but yesterday your two central defense they have been more than Llorente.
Hope to see you next year in the Champions league (not in group) between the quarter and semi-finals for a rematch.
I also hope to meet the winners from Europe league ... so as to give meaning to our defeat yesterday.
If you win the cup, in the end we lost to those who have won the cup.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 02 de Maio de 2014, 14:40
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Maio de 2014, 14:15
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:53
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:44
I can not have respect for a club that reminds me FC Porto...
The cry of the coach, the complaints of form to upset and lose your bad.
Any resemblance is purely coincidental
and your crying after the drawing day about platini and his supposed favours? your shameful waste of time the last 20 minutes yesterday?
it's all about football baby and the tension of a semifinal...if referee was our "friend" he had to give us a penalty for a hand foul, he didnt and he did well cause it wasnt crystal clear...
Oh fuck off!
You played ten minutes with more two players lost because they are stupid and we are better as a team
YOU HAVE REASON TO 10 MINUTES the juventus played in numerical superiority, it is also true that (rightly) that in those 10 minutes Benfica looked like a wall.
It was almost impossible to overcome your defensive line.
In the end, the verdict of the field always tells the truth: The benfica (in the two games he deserved to play in the final).
it is also true (and you will have to admit in all honesty) ... the game yesterday saw the juventus always try to score a goal, and you have held up very well the impact. You have been dangerous only a couple of times.
Llorente is very strong, but yesterday your two central defense they have been more than Llorente.
Hope to see you next year in the Champions league (not in group) between the quarter and semi-finals for a rematch.
I also hope to meet the winners from Europe league ... so as to give meaning to our defeat yesterday.
If you win the cup, in the end we lost to those who have won the cup.
Part of the strategy, won the first game to play attacking .
Jesus did not want the strategy were the same with the first game won.
Playing with one less wanted us start attacking? obviously not!
We played with our strategy and it worked!
you have to claim it with your coach and players
Coach Conte complains of the arbitrators ... :bah2: ridiculous! A journalist from the state television said one day: "Juventus who complain about the referees is like the Pope who complains of the Jubilee! :clap1: Great Benfica played a great football!! :slb2: :smitten:
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:53
Citação de: Darkboy em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:40
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:35
Citação de: Darkboy em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:30
Strong butthurt detected.
benfica is a very good team and deserves the final....maybe benfiquista fans dont deserve it that much...
What do you know about Benfica history or fans to say that "Benfica fans don't deserve it"?
For example, there were 500 of you in Lisbon and 2000 of us in Turim. And could easily have been 4000 or 6000 benfiquistas in the stands, had you sent more tickets.
maximum respect for benfica history... but there's some insult and some relationship i cant respect that much
Dont put all in the same "bag" and not put yourself in that "bag" too...
For instance and i talk for myself i continue to like Juventus like i did before, because and dispite our diferences we are the biggest sport clubs in Portugal and Italy, the only diference is that Juve is far more protected in Italy than Benfica and the normally is what happens with Juve, im not saying i like my club more protected than the others but if one club must be more protected must be allways the biggest club of the country and never the ones who arent so important.
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 02 de Maio de 2014, 14:53
Coach Conte complains of the arbitrators ... :bah2: ridiculous! A journalist from the state television said one day: "Juventus who complain about the referees is like the Pope who complains of the Jubilee! :clap1: Great Benfica played a great football!! :slb2: :smitten:
And they had no reason to complain, if someone has to whine about the referee it´s us.
When´s Torino playing? I wanna watch the game.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 02 de Maio de 2014, 14:40
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Maio de 2014, 14:15
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:53
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:44
I can not have respect for a club that reminds me FC Porto...
The cry of the coach, the complaints of form to upset and lose your bad.
Any resemblance is purely coincidental
and your crying after the drawing day about platini and his supposed favours? your shameful waste of time the last 20 minutes yesterday?
it's all about football baby and the tension of a semifinal...if referee was our "friend" he had to give us a penalty for a hand foul, he didnt and he did well cause it wasnt crystal clear...
Oh fuck off!
You played ten minutes with more two players lost because they are stupid and we are better as a team
YOU HAVE REASON TO 10 MINUTES the juventus played in numerical superiority, it is also true that (rightly) that in those 10 minutes Benfica looked like a wall.
It was almost impossible to overcome your defensive line.
In the end, the verdict of the field always tells the truth: The benfica (in the two games he deserved to play in the final).
it is also true (and you will have to admit in all honesty) ... the game yesterday saw the juventus always try to score a goal, and you have held up very well the impact. You have been dangerous only a couple of times.
Llorente is very strong, but yesterday your two central defense they have been more than Llorente.
Hope to see you next year in the Champions league (not in group) between the quarter and semi-finals for a rematch.
I also hope to meet the winners from Europe league ... so as to give meaning to our defeat yesterday.
If you win the cup, in the end we lost to those who have won the cup.
Of course with less two players and result pending for us we must defended that result. But I don't agree when some say that we try to lose time. The only one that lost time by purpose was Oblak, but the referee give him yellow card early. The injuries was truth. And have moments like when Vucinic take red card that was fault of Chiellini on Sulejmani and the referee didn't give fault.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:31
CONGRATULATIONS GUYS ...
I HOPE you win THE CUP :bandeiraslb2:
I hoped until the last second in one of our goals, nothing ... Benfica has held up very well.
Citação de: L3GEND em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:02
To all the Juventus fans here, that show fair-play: thanks for the sportsmanship and good luck for the rest of the season.
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:53
Citação de: Darkboy em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:40
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:35
Citação de: Darkboy em 02 de Maio de 2014, 10:30
Strong butthurt detected.
benfica is a very good team and deserves the final....maybe benfiquista fans dont deserve it that much...
What do you know about Benfica history or fans to say that "Benfica fans don't deserve it"?
For example, there were 500 of you in Lisbon and 2000 of us in Turim. And could easily have been 4000 or 6000 benfiquistas in the stands, had you sent more tickets.
maximum respect for benfica history... but there's some insult and some relationship i cant respect that much
Dont put all in the same "bag" and not put yourself in that "bag" too...
For instance and i talk for myself i continue to like Juventus like i did before, because and dispite our diferences we are the biggest sport clubs in Portugal and Italy, the only diference is that Juve is far more protected in Italy than Benfica and the normally is what happens with Juve, im not saying i like my club more protected than the others but if one club must be more protected must be allways the biggest club of the country and never the ones who arent so important.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:31
CONGRATULATIONS GUYS ...
I HOPE you win THE CUP :bandeiraslb2:
I hoped until the last second in one of our goals, nothing ... Benfica has held up very well.
Next season and IF Benfica not face Juve i wich all lucky for you, after my Benfica, Juve, Spartak, Olympiakos, PSG, CZB-Red Star Beograd, Real and Man UTD are my favourites to win UEFA CL.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 02 de Maio de 2014, 11:31
CONGRATULATIONS GUYS ...
I HOPE you win THE CUP :bandeiraslb2:
I hoped until the last second in one of our goals, nothing ... Benfica has held up very well.
Fair play to you, man! I'm proud of us. We've faced a strong team and were able to knock it out. Now we gotta focus on Sevilla.
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 14:22
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Maio de 2014, 14:15
Citação de: lucypher em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:53
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:44
I can not have respect for a club that reminds me FC Porto...
The cry of the coach, the complaints of form to upset and lose your bad.
Any resemblance is purely coincidental
and your crying after the drawing day about platini and his supposed favours? your shameful waste of time the last 20 minutes yesterday?
it's all about football baby and the tension of a semifinal...if referee was our "friend" he had to give us a penalty for a hand foul, he didnt and he did well cause it wasnt crystal clear...
Oh fuck off!
You played ten minutes with more two players lost because they are stupid and we are better as a team
if you read my previous posts i wrote that you deserved the final and that benfica has a more balanced and strong lineup...
Your bad luck consists of the fact that Benfica is very much used to overcome opponents in semi-finals with 10 men only.
Third time this year.
"but there's some insult and some relationship i cant respect that much"
I don't know what you mean with the relationship, but I guess is about Torino. In this case I need to say that this relationship doesn't have anything connected to this game with Juve.
We always feel some conection with your rival because the tragedy of Superga was after a game of Torino in honor to our captain Francisco Ferreira in our stadium. For example we have this topic on our forum from 3 years ago: http://serbenfiquista.com/forum/memorias/4-de-maio-de-1949-a-tragedia-de-superga/
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:44
I can not have respect for a club that reminds me FC Porto...
The cry of the coach, the complaints of form to upset and lose your bad.
Any resemblance is purely coincidental
Dont compare Juve with fcP...and again when i write fcP im referring ONLY to Pinto da Costa and directors not to the fans even them coud like winning cheating, fcP unlike Juve isnt the most well supported sport club and Juve was punished for corruption and fcP didnt.
Citação de: IPASLB em 02 de Maio de 2014, 15:11
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:44
I can not have respect for a club that reminds me FC Porto...
The cry of the coach, the complaints of form to upset and lose your bad.
Any resemblance is purely coincidental
Dont compare Juve with fcP...and again when i write fcP im referring ONLY to Pinto da Costa and directors not to the fans even them coud like winning cheating, fcP unlike Juve isnt the most well supported sport club and Juve was punished for corruption and fcP didnt.
The paradox is that while the FCPorto has never been punit for its corruption (but someone had to bring to justice the facts ... and what I see and feel no one did), Juventus was ordered
"Without ever having altered championships. "This is what we read from the devices of sporting tribunals and ordinary ... a contradiction all Italian.
Or you cheated or you did not.
Citação de: RubbaDub em 02 de Maio de 2014, 14:58
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 02 de Maio de 2014, 14:53
Coach Conte complains of the arbitrators ... :bah2: ridiculous! A journalist from the state television said one day: "Juventus who complain about the referees is like the Pope who complains of the Jubilee! :clap1: Great Benfica played a great football!! :slb2: :smitten:
And they had no reason to complain, if someone has to whine about the referee it´s us.
When´s Torino playing? I wanna watch the game.
Chievo Verona vs Torino 04/05/2014, 15:00 (UTC+1.00)
Three games at the end of the Italian championship, if we win all three go in the Europa League. We fans of the Turin we are very happy with our team, even if we do not qualify. We went back to being a decent team like long ago.
JUVENTINO, answer my private message, or I will send pictures of my genitals to your family via post cards.
Citação de: IPASLB em 02 de Maio de 2014, 15:11
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:44
I can not have respect for a club that reminds me FC Porto...
The cry of the coach, the complaints of form to upset and lose your bad.
Any resemblance is purely coincidental
Dont compare Juve with fcP...and again when i write fcP im referring ONLY to Pinto da Costa and directors not to the fans even them coud like winning cheating, fcP unlike Juve isnt the most well supported sport club and Juve was punished for corruption and fcP didnt.
I also blame Porto's fans. As you may know, they always vote for PdC, they always support him, they always sing his name.
Anyone who supports a criminal supports crime. And we should blame them and point our finger at them instead of turning our faces and whistle.
90% of Porto's fans support PdC and a corrupt administration, 90% of them only have hate in their hearts. As far as I'm concerned they are has guilty as their president and they like to steal.
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 02 de Maio de 2014, 15:19
Citação de: RubbaDub em 02 de Maio de 2014, 14:58
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 02 de Maio de 2014, 14:53
Coach Conte complains of the arbitrators ... :bah2: ridiculous! A journalist from the state television said one day: "Juventus who complain about the referees is like the Pope who complains of the Jubilee! :clap1: Great Benfica played a great football!! :slb2: :smitten:
And they had no reason to complain, if someone has to whine about the referee it´s us.
When´s Torino playing? I wanna watch the game.
Chievo Verona vs Torino 04/05/2014, 15:00 (UTC+1.00)
Three games at the end of the Italian championship, if we win all three go in the Europa League. We fans of the Turin we are very happy with our team, even if we do not qualify. We went back to being a decent team like long ago.
Why not open a topic on this section only about Torino?
There you can post everything related to your club and we could discuss it.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 02 de Maio de 2014, 15:16
Citação de: IPASLB em 02 de Maio de 2014, 15:11
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:44
I can not have respect for a club that reminds me FC Porto...
The cry of the coach, the complaints of form to upset and lose your bad.
Any resemblance is purely coincidental
Dont compare Juve with fcP...and again when i write fcP im referring ONLY to Pinto da Costa and directors not to the fans even them coud like winning cheating, fcP unlike Juve isnt the most well supported sport club and Juve was punished for corruption and fcP didnt.
The paradox is that while the FCPorto has never been punit for its corruption (but someone had to bring to justice the facts ... and what I see and feel no one did), Juventus was ordered "Without ever having altered championships. "
This is what we read from the devices of sporting tribunals and ordinary ... a contradiction all Italian.
Or you cheated or you did not.
Are you the classic clown Juventus! You are certificates of Thieves! You climb in the mirrors as Spider-Man. Current weather in Albania? Who plays the final of the UEFA cup? The Great Benfica! :flagglorioso: :slb2: :bandeiraslb2: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
Lucypher
This is my vision:
We have more reason than you to speak about the refs:
1º game:
Enzo - red card - ok
Penalti on Chiellini - no, he pushes Enzo fisrt (quite violently)
Chiellini elbows Maxi - yes, red card?
Cáceres overthrows Enzo in the area - penalty
We scored and then calmed the game. Need to see we have some absences and we had had a tuff game against Porto
Nevertheless we controle you and always created good counters
Ypu scored and we came and scored and always scored one or two more
I think Pogba received a yellow card in the end of the game
2º game:
Cáceres tackles with 2 feet together and the ref ignores in tlhe play he sens Enzo out
First card to Enzo is unbelievable
He "pardoned" cards to you. Chiellini was amazing with the elbows
In the penalty you talk Lorente have it´s arms on top of Markovic
With 10 and then 9 players do you want us to attack?
You,an italian? The guys that are unbelievable good at defending?!?!?
Reaaly?
We did our game but I didn´t saw anti sporting atitudes
Oblak was given a yellow for taking too long but that´s usual in any team!
Concerning the rest:
- prohibition of the banner
- bad talking and bad attitude of your players
- complaint to Uefa
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 02 de Maio de 2014, 15:16
Citação de: IPASLB em 02 de Maio de 2014, 15:11
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:44
I can not have respect for a club that reminds me FC Porto...
The cry of the coach, the complaints of form to upset and lose your bad.
Any resemblance is purely coincidental
Dont compare Juve with fcP...and again when i write fcP im referring ONLY to Pinto da Costa and directors not to the fans even them coud like winning cheating, fcP unlike Juve isnt the most well supported sport club and Juve was punished for corruption and fcP didnt.
The paradox is that while the FCPorto has never been punit for its corruption (but someone had to bring to justice the facts ... and what I see and feel no one did), Juventus was ordered "Without ever having altered championships. "
This is what we read from the devices of sporting tribunals and ordinary ... a contradiction all Italian.
Or you cheated or you did not.
Porto was punished. They took 6 points from them in a championship they've already won by a large margin... That's how justice is made in Portugal.
If you wanna evaluate their character I can tell you that in the 80's they list a Cup Winners Cup final to you, just the year before your first European Cup against Liverpool. It was their first European final ever and you had an incredible team, probably your best ever... The blame the referee and ordered a copy of the trophy to put on their museum. And that is what Porto is all about...
Cheating, crying, blaming others for their defeats and not knowing to face defeat.
Concerning Gaitan and Salvio, well you can buy them!!
I trully believe you have to invest in wingers
You had Elia. What happened to him?
In the system you have nowadays you need wingers more technical like Kolarov, Siqueira, Alex Sandro on the left
Gaitan is a fucking genious and this season is showing great consistency but I believe neither one will cost less than 20 or 25M
Benfica went into the field to make the game, this has been afraid to juventus who is not accustomed to play with the big teams (the Italian championship is low-level). I saw Benfica make an excellent offside, I saw a very good defense, I saw your players do a great pressing. I saw a team that played with heart! Fortunately won the team stronger and with more heart and honesty!
GrandeTorino create a topic about Torino FC.
Liked to begin tracking the club
Citação de: Jotenko em 02 de Maio de 2014, 15:22
JUVENTINO, answer my private message, or I will send pictures of my genitals to your family via post cards.
Send them a microscope, too.
Juventus and Conte have nothing to complain about. Benfica was the better team in both legs. The best thing to do, is just move on.
Having said that, i would like to thank you, Juventino, for being a good guy and having good sportsmanship. I hope you keep coming to our forum, we as benfiquistas, like to have people from all over the world posting here.
:drunk:
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 02 de Maio de 2014, 15:46
Juventus and Conte have nothing to complain about. Benfica was the better team in both legs. The best thing to do, is just move on.
Having said that, i would like to thank you, Juventino, for being a good guy and having good sportsmanship. I hope you keep coming to our forum, we as benfiquistas, like to have people from all over the world posting here.
:drunk:
I have no problem to keep themselves in your forum ... but I can not stand that you call me a thief every time I read the post by "GRANDETORINO" ...
having said that, I'm sure "Grandetorino" is just a baby only able to cheer against.
His ambition is to cheer against juventus.
If the turin win or lose if you do not give a fuck ... the important thing that the juve lost. and if Juve wins, find a thousand excuses to denigrate the fuck juve.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 02 de Maio de 2014, 15:55
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 02 de Maio de 2014, 15:46
Juventus and Conte have nothing to complain about. Benfica was the better team in both legs. The best thing to do, is just move on.
Having said that, i would like to thank you, Juventino, for being a good guy and having good sportsmanship. I hope you keep coming to our forum, we as benfiquistas, like to have people from all over the world posting here.
:drunk:
I have no problem to keep themselves in your forum ... but I can not stand that you call me a thief every time I read the post by "GRANDETORINO" ...
having said that, I'm sure "Grandetorino" is just a baby only able to cheer against.
His ambition is to cheer against juventus.
If the turin win or lose if you do not give a fuck ... the important thing that the juve lost. and if Juve wins, find a thousand excuses to denigrate the fuck juve.
Shit, there´s really bad blood between your clubs!!!
And what about each one create a topic for your club
Would be great to listen you about youngsters, players from smaller clubs, etc
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 02 de Maio de 2014, 15:26
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 02 de Maio de 2014, 15:16
Citação de: IPASLB em 02 de Maio de 2014, 15:11
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:44
I can not have respect for a club that reminds me FC Porto...
The cry of the coach, the complaints of form to upset and lose your bad.
Any resemblance is purely coincidental
Dont compare Juve with fcP...and again when i write fcP im referring ONLY to Pinto da Costa and directors not to the fans even them coud like winning cheating, fcP unlike Juve isnt the most well supported sport club and Juve was punished for corruption and fcP didnt.
The paradox is that while the FCPorto has never been punit for its corruption (but someone had to bring to justice the facts ... and what I see and feel no one did), Juventus was ordered "Without ever having altered championships. "
This is what we read from the devices of sporting tribunals and ordinary ... a contradiction all Italian.
Or you cheated or you did not.
Are you the classic clown Juventus! You are certificates of Thieves! You climb in the mirrors as Spider-Man. Current weather in Albania? Who plays the final of the UEFA cup? The Great Benfica! :flagglorioso: :slb2: :bandeiraslb2: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
you're just a poor man ... a small child: a bimbominkia.
You do not know and do not want to inform you about what really happened.
because you know that if you tell, your whole world collapses. The world is your Recently built on falsehood and can not collapse, otherwise you die.
The last championship that you won in 1976 ... since then have sailed between series A and series B, with some soaring sporadic.
Have you had as president the one who killed meroni ... this is your story ... a bad story.
Citação de: cavpacores em 02 de Maio de 2014, 16:02
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 02 de Maio de 2014, 15:55
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 02 de Maio de 2014, 15:46
Juventus and Conte have nothing to complain about. Benfica was the better team in both legs. The best thing to do, is just move on.
Having said that, i would like to thank you, Juventino, for being a good guy and having good sportsmanship. I hope you keep coming to our forum, we as benfiquistas, like to have people from all over the world posting here.
:drunk:
I have no problem to keep themselves in your forum ... but I can not stand that you call me a thief every time I read the post by "GRANDETORINO" ...
having said that, I'm sure "Grandetorino" is just a baby only able to cheer against.
His ambition is to cheer against juventus.
If the turin win or lose if you do not give a fuck ... the important thing that the juve lost. and if Juve wins, find a thousand excuses to denigrate the fuck juve.
Shit, there´s really bad blood between your clubs!!!
There is no agreement with any other Italian club supporter. .
The Turin waiting all year (sometimes more than two years ... often play in Seire B) the derby.
While the Juventus fans, consider that game as one of many battles ... not "The Battle".
This is the real difference between us and them.
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 02 de Maio de 2014, 16:04
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 02 de Maio de 2014, 15:26
Citação de: JUVENTINO em 02 de Maio de 2014, 15:16
Citação de: IPASLB em 02 de Maio de 2014, 15:11
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Maio de 2014, 13:44
I can not have respect for a club that reminds me FC Porto...
The cry of the coach, the complaints of form to upset and lose your bad.
Any resemblance is purely coincidental
Dont compare Juve with fcP...and again when i write fcP im referring ONLY to Pinto da Costa and directors not to the fans even them coud like winning cheating, fcP unlike Juve isnt the most well supported sport club and Juve was punished for corruption and fcP didnt.
The paradox is that while the FCPorto has never been punit for its corruption (but someone had to bring to justice the facts ... and what I see and feel no one did), Juventus was ordered "Without ever having altered championships. "
This is what we read from the devices of sporting tribunals and ordinary ... a contradiction all Italian.
Or you cheated or you did not.
Are you the classic clown Juventus! You are certificates of Thieves! You climb in the mirrors as Spider-Man. Current weather in Albania? Who plays the final of the UEFA cup? The Great Benfica! :flagglorioso: :slb2: :bandeiraslb2: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
you're just a poor man ... a small child: a bimbominkia.
You do not know and do not want to inform you about what really happened.
because you know that if you tell, your whole world collapses. The world is your Recently built on falsehood and can not collapse, otherwise you die.
The last championship that you won in 1976 ... since then have sailed between series A and series B, with some soaring sporadic.
Have you had as president the one who killed meroni ... this is your story ... a bad story.
If I am a bimbominkia you're a minkia without minkia. Without referees Juve have not won! Although yesterday the arbitrator tried it, I did play an extra long time, but Benfica is too strong for you! Outside Italy are worth nothing! Thieves have you gone to Serie B because you stole! :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=563014193816612&set=vb.461398893978143&type=2&theater
Greetings
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Maio de 2014, 16:42
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=563014193816612&set=vb.461398893978143&type=2&theater
Greetings
The irony in the description. What an idiot.
Citação de: GrandeTorino em 02 de Maio de 2014, 16:34
If I am a bimbominkia you're a minkia without minkia. Without referees Juve have not won! Although yesterday the arbitrator tried it, I did play an extra long time, but Benfica is too strong for you! Outside Italy are worth nothing! Thieves have you gone to Serie B because you stole! :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
sure, sure .
always speak of thieves , the referees help us , we ended up in Serie B because we steal ...
All to say that after 2006 , football was more beautiful, cleaner.
the inter win a championship with three players offside at Siena ... ehhhh , but football is now more beautiful. can happen by mistake. Inter won the Champions League with a different aid arbitration , but okay , okay ... randomness (of course there was no agreement with the referees ) .
Too bad, then that:
1 ) It turns out that Inter much more than juve was embroiled in Calciopoli , saved only by the prescription of offenses;
2 ) Here comes mr " Conte " ( obnoxious or not) and he performs the miracle of winning the league.
Suddenly, we are back to being nice to nasty ... two consecutive seventh place in the league have made us very nice , even with some help arbitration . In that case it does happen.
listen:
juventus is the excuse of those who never wins .
and with that, I salute you and the friends of the forum forever.
You can not read your comment every load of conspiracy blind and childish.
Non è stato fino 30 anni per vedere una juve allenatore lamentano l'influenza del Benfica UEFA ... vedere un allenatore italiano, lamentando il calcio difensiva della squadra avversaria ....
Insomma, vedo un tecnico della Juventus parla di buon senso .. arbitraggio è lo stesso di vedere un pedofilo piagnucolare perché un uomo ha abusato di sua figlia ..
Juventus = Lance Armstrong
It was hilarious how the juve coach complained about Benfica assuming a DEFENSIVE ROLE ;D
An Italian complaining that his oponent played DEFENSIVE LOL ;D
Citação de: xiribiti em 02 de Maio de 2014, 19:29
It was hilarious how the juve coach complained about Benfica assuming a DEFENSIVE ROLE ;D
An Italian complaining that his oponent played DEFENSIVE LOL ;D
The doctor did not like having a taste of his own medicine.
we played like that because Conte was a noob
Benfica used to suffocate his opponents too, but our coach already learned his lesson
Juve didn't want to let Benfica play and paid the price, since we feel confortable defending
you have to give the ball away some times to let the other team go forward and open some space in the back... it's easier to penetrate the defense like that
Benfica it's a team that likes to attack, but Juve wasn't very smart, and though it was better to go up against a wall LOL
PS: respect for JUVENTINO for being a good sport O0
Well my friends, it's time for all of us to make a move forward. Juventus belongs to the past.
Both Torino fans and Juventus fans are invited to stay, and create here topics about their clubs, to illustrate us better about their history, their wins, their magical moments...but there's no space for "war". The only "wars" acceptable to fight here, are the ones which belong to Benfica.
exacto, ahora ganar la final :bandeiraslb2:
Citação de: Lm27 em 02 de Maio de 2014, 23:38
exacto, ahora ganar la final :bandeiraslb2:
Thanks a lot. Let's hope we can win this time.
The first European Cup we won was scheduled to take place in Italy, Rome. Due to some problems concerning money, UEFA rescheduled it to Berna and we defeated Barcelona 3-2 in an unforgettable match.
Already played and European Cup final in Italy, San Ciro, against Inter and lost 1-0. A shame...
Feel free to open a topic about Inter in this section of the forum. There we can discuss all Internazionale related issues.
It would be, I guess, a relevant topic, since we have several Inter followers amongst our users.
Citação de: pcssousa em 03 de Maio de 2014, 00:09
Citação de: Lm27 em 02 de Maio de 2014, 23:38
exacto, ahora ganar la final :bandeiraslb2:
Thanks a lot. Let's hope we can win this time.
The first European Cup we won was scheduled to take place in Italy, Rome. Due to some problems concerning money, UEFA rescheduled it to Berna and we defeated Barcelona 3-2 in an unforgettable match.
Already played and European Cup final in Italy, San Ciro, against Inter and lost 1-0. A shame...
Feel free to open a topic about Inter in this section of the forum. There we can discuss all Internazionale related issues.
It would be, I guess, a relevant topic, since we have several Inter followers amongst our users.
OK.... :bandeiraslb2:
Actually the stadium's name is San Siro, with S, not C
San Siro or Giuseppe Meazza.
I'll be visiting Superga on May 13th or 14th. I'll try to get a decent sized photo of Francisco Ferreira to leave on the memorial.
I will also be visiting the ex-Comunale now Olimpico to pay my tribute to the goal Eusebio scored there in 1968. This stadium have always looked like the initial version of our old stadium to me. It will be quite interesting to visit it. The ones familiar with our stadium can look to the stairs and doors and chech the similarities.
It will be my 5th final live, I'm hoping this time we win it.
Citação de: Ned Kelly em 03 de Maio de 2014, 09:16
I'll be visiting Superga on May 13th or 14th. I'll try to get a decent sized photo of Francisco Ferreira to leave on the memorial.
I will also be visiting the ex-Comunale now Olimpico to pay my tribute to the goal Eusebio scored there in 1968. This stadium have always looked like the initial version of our old stadium to me. It will be quite interesting to visit it. The ones familiar with our stadium can look to the stairs and doors and chech the similarities.
It will be my 5th final live, I'm hoping this time we win it.
5th final ? you don't give up :) Good luck next time.
one day we'll have to win