After a request from a Croatian fan, I decided to open this topic.
As the title and symbol says, this topic is dedicated to Benfica only.
(http://i.imgur.com/9aHkuJA.png)
:clap1: :drunk: :drunk: :dance: :flagglorioso:ONLY BENFICA
Welcome friend!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjcOJmoJwpk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjcOJmoJwpk)
Benfica 2014/2015 transfers?
OUT :
Oblak , Garay , Siqueira , Markovic , André Gomes , Rodrigo , Mitrovic , Silvio ...
IN :
Cesar , Luis Felipe , Djavan , Benito , Eliseu , Talisca , Bebé , Victor Andrade , Derley , Candeias ...
Definetly not good....With Markovic and Oblak money, the club should invest in some talents
double
No money, no fun...
Not always money.. sometimes good scouting makes good results.
Citação de: Lm27 em 31 de Julho de 2014, 15:33
Definetly not good....With Markovic and Oblak money,the club should invest in some talents
20M so far, 60% in trash or players tha we don't need.
I really like Brahimi....it sucks that he's in that stupid club now.
Benfica should have signed him
Our president is a **** whore, he sells everything!
He will sell maybe Enzo e Gaitan, and 9 of our main team last year will be gone
This transfer window has been a disaster for us friend. Hope we can somehow get it together :(
Talisca and Victor Andrade are good.
Bebé :buck2:
Eliseu was decent with Malaga but he's 31 I think, so he was perfect for the italian league.
I don't know about the others
Citação de: Lm27 em 01 de Agosto de 2014, 08:49
Talisca and Victor Andrade are good.
Bebé :buck2:
Eliseu was decent with Malaga but he's 31 I think, so he was perfect for the italian league.
I don't know about the others
Bebe is good player for me is the best new player, for now.
Citação de: cipri_slb em 01 de Agosto de 2014, 17:02
Citação de: Lm27 em 01 de Agosto de 2014, 08:49
Talisca and Victor Andrade are good.
Bebé :buck2:
Eliseu was decent with Malaga but he's 31 I think, so he was perfect for the italian league.
I don't know about the others
Bebe is good player for me is the best new player, for now.
He was a big flop outside Portugal
:huh:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2708565/Manchester-Uniteds-weirdest-signing-Bebe-achieve-things-Benfica-prospect-Portugal.html
We "don't have money" but we already splashed 20M in ordinary players.
Management.
Citação de: Faliro em 01 de Agosto de 2014, 17:59
:huh:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2708565/Manchester-Uniteds-weirdest-signing-Bebe-achieve-things-Benfica-prospect-Portugal.html
Anyone who follows football knows that no one can triumph if the coach doesn't give you a chance to show what a player can do.
I followed very close his last season and he was impressive... And you don't get to see me saying this about a player very often.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNqqp-IiKnc
He didn't play because he was awful.
Nowadays it's a little better, good shot and he is also very fast.
Has serious problems with the ball, poor dribbling..also it's not a very clever player, makes a lot of mistakes. I doubt he will triumph at Benfica, hope I'm wrong.
He wasn't awful at all.
In fact I disagree with almost everything you wrote. It's obvious he has good dribbling abilities.
He's not a very good player at the moment, but has the potential to be.
Bebé is an awful player. The guy plays by himself and for himself. Didn't come add anything to the squad.
As anyone can see, opinion on Bebé is pretty much 50-50 among Benfica fans.
After all, we are talking about a player who in the first two seasons of his career played only 6 official matches.
This last season in Paços de Ferreira was the first time he ever played more than 20 games in a season.
We just have to wait and see.
Very bad game....just pre-season
We played with many new players on the defensive line and one who will not even be in the squad (Sidnei), our 3 best central defenders are injured, and those who know to defend zone. So it was a disaster. Our goalkeeper is shit and is not able to defend the depth and decrease the space that can be used behind the defensive line. Our defensive midfielder (Talisca) just arrived, has little knowledge of the game, is learning and in adaptation phase. And then we play against Arsenal, which is only one of the best teams offensively, and with top executants. The result was expected. Just pre-season like you said. The team will improve a lot, and still needs to get at least 1 keeper, 1 defensive midfielder and 1 striker.
you think u can win the league this season?
Probably not.
It depends on Porto really, if their new coach is competent or not, because individual quality, they have and a lot for the portuguese league.
Citação de: PsychoFan em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 02:26
It depends on Porto really, if their new coach is competent or not, because individual quality, they have and a lot for the portuguese league.
You forgot Sporting
Citação de: cipri_slb em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 02:37
Citação de: PsychoFan em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 02:26
It depends on Porto really, if their new coach is competent or not, because individual quality, they have and a lot for the portuguese league.
You forgot Sporting
Sporting is stronger than last season, but still... I don't know if it's enough, we'll see.
You can still sign some decent players....I mean even Serie A is completely broke but there are loans or things like that
Our main problem was defense. And both our best defenders are injured and didn't play.
The ones who played had many individual mistakes that led to the goals. With Luisão and Jardel or Lisandro, we wouldn't get so many goals.
Also, Artur isn't a good keeper, we should get one.
Can we win the league? Honestly, I don't know. I'm not afraid of either sporting and porto. Sporting has no stamina, no top players and is not a winning team, they don't count. Porto lost their last references, they are now a team without porto's spirit, with too many foreigners with more name than quality. If they lose Jackson Martinez, they will be a poor side.
I'm only worried about us, honestly.
Artur is a shitty goalkeeper, it's inadmissible he still be in the club.
Sign decent players? After Emirates Cup? ;D Probably mission impossible, my friend.
Win the league... it's possible, but like I said it will depend on Lopetegui.
What a fucked up pre-season. Laughable.
Also you dont have extra-EU players limit so transfers should be easier for you...
Porto signed Casemiro on loan, Benfica have to do the same thing with other players.
Citação de: Lm27 em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 16:48
Also you dont have extra-EU players limit so transfers should be easier for you...
Porto signed Casemiro on loan, Benfica have to do the same thing with other players.
Loan? No thank you.
Jorge Jesus said after the game that will arrive 3 players, 1 GR, 1 defensive midfielder and 1 striker. And Enzo and Gaitán will probably stay.
Citação de: Lm27 em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 16:48
Also you dont have extra-EU players limit so transfers should be easier for you...
Porto signed Casemiro on loan, Benfica have to do the same thing with other players.
Siqueira signed for Benfica on loan, this season he go to Atletico Madrid... Loan no...
Citação de: cipri_slb em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 19:48
Citação de: Lm27 em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 16:48
Also you dont have extra-EU players limit so transfers should be easier for you...
Porto signed Casemiro on loan, Benfica have to do the same thing with other players.
Siqueira signed for Benfica on loan, this season he go to Atletico Madrid... Loan no...
Because Benfica didnt buy him.
There's nothing wrong with players on loan, if they're good you buy them, if they dont deliver they go back
Citação de: Lm27 em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 21:02
Citação de: cipri_slb em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 19:48
Citação de: Lm27 em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 16:48
Also you dont have extra-EU players limit so transfers should be easier for you...
Porto signed Casemiro on loan, Benfica have to do the same thing with other players.
Siqueira signed for Benfica on loan, this season he go to Atletico Madrid... Loan no...
Because Benfica didnt buy him.
There's nothing wrong with players on loan, if they're good you buy them, if they dont deliver they go back
He wanted to go to Atletico, requested a salary that Benfica could not afford. Benfica is only an intermediate club, where players come, learn and leave. But for Benfica make money can not be with loaned players.
Citação de: PsychoFan em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 21:12
Citação de: Lm27 em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 21:02
Citação de: cipri_slb em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 19:48
Citação de: Lm27 em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 16:48
Also you dont have extra-EU players limit so transfers should be easier for you...
Porto signed Casemiro on loan, Benfica have to do the same thing with other players.
Siqueira signed for Benfica on loan, this season he go to Atletico Madrid... Loan no...
Because Benfica didnt buy him.
There's nothing wrong with players on loan, if they're good you buy them, if they dont deliver they go back
He wanted to go to Atletico, requested a salary that Benfica could not afford. Benfica is only an intermediate club, where players come, learn and leave. But for Benfica make money can not be with loaned players.
Not true.
Citação de: T1n0_SLB em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 21:44
Citação de: PsychoFan em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 21:12
Citação de: Lm27 em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 21:02
Citação de: cipri_slb em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 19:48
Citação de: Lm27 em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 16:48
Also you dont have extra-EU players limit so transfers should be easier for you...
Porto signed Casemiro on loan, Benfica have to do the same thing with other players.
Siqueira signed for Benfica on loan, this season he go to Atletico Madrid... Loan no...
Because Benfica didnt buy him.
There's nothing wrong with players on loan, if they're good you buy them, if they dont deliver they go back
He wanted to go to Atletico, requested a salary that Benfica could not afford. Benfica is only an intermediate club, where players come, learn and leave. But for Benfica make money can not be with loaned players.
Not true.
Ok.
Citação de: T1n0_SLB em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 21:44
Citação de: PsychoFan em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 21:12
Citação de: Lm27 em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 21:02
Citação de: cipri_slb em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 19:48
Citação de: Lm27 em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 16:48
Also you dont have extra-EU players limit so transfers should be easier for you...
Porto signed Casemiro on loan, Benfica have to do the same thing with other players.
Siqueira signed for Benfica on loan, this season he go to Atletico Madrid... Loan no...
Because Benfica didnt buy him.
There's nothing wrong with players on loan, if they're good you buy them, if they dont deliver they go back
He wanted to go to Atletico, requested a salary that Benfica could not afford. Benfica is only an intermediate club, where players come, learn and leave. But for Benfica make money can not be with loaned players.
Not true.
It is the word of Siqueira against the word of Vieira, who to believe? hard.
I also think he wanted to go to Atletico
Citação de: cipri_slb em 04 de Agosto de 2014, 00:33
Citação de: T1n0_SLB em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 21:44
Citação de: PsychoFan em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 21:12
Citação de: Lm27 em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 21:02
Citação de: cipri_slb em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 19:48
Citação de: Lm27 em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 16:48
Also you dont have extra-EU players limit so transfers should be easier for you...
Porto signed Casemiro on loan, Benfica have to do the same thing with other players.
Siqueira signed for Benfica on loan, this season he go to Atletico Madrid... Loan no...
Because Benfica didnt buy him.
There's nothing wrong with players on loan, if they're good you buy them, if they dont deliver they go back
He wanted to go to Atletico, requested a salary that Benfica could not afford. Benfica is only an intermediate club, where players come, learn and leave. But for Benfica make money can not be with loaned players.
Not true.
It is the word of Siqueira against the word of Vieira, who to believe? hard.
I also think he wanted to go to Atletico
Probably....Atletico is a great team at the moment with a very good manager.
Also he can become the new Filipe Luis fot the team
Betwen Vieira's word and anyone else word's i know witch i don't believe.
http://www.abola.pt/nnh/ver.aspx?id=492946
Citação de: Lm27 em 04 de Agosto de 2014, 08:36
Citação de: cipri_slb em 04 de Agosto de 2014, 00:33
Citação de: T1n0_SLB em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 21:44
Citação de: PsychoFan em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 21:12
Citação de: Lm27 em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 21:02
Citação de: cipri_slb em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 19:48
Citação de: Lm27 em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 16:48
Also you dont have extra-EU players limit so transfers should be easier for you...
Porto signed Casemiro on loan, Benfica have to do the same thing with other players.
Siqueira signed for Benfica on loan, this season he go to Atletico Madrid... Loan no...
Because Benfica didnt buy him.
There's nothing wrong with players on loan, if they're good you buy them, if they dont deliver they go back
He wanted to go to Atletico, requested a salary that Benfica could not afford. Benfica is only an intermediate club, where players come, learn and leave. But for Benfica make money can not be with loaned players.
Not true.
It is the word of Siqueira against the word of Vieira, who to believe? hard.
I also think he wanted to go to Atletico
Probably....Atletico is a great team at the moment with a very good manager.
Also he can become the new Filipe Luis fot the team
It's more than probably, better league, better players, better coaches, better teammates, better salary, who the fuck would prefer Benfica to Atletico??!! Only some kid formed in Benfica.
Citação de: PsychoFan em 04 de Agosto de 2014, 15:08
Citação de: Lm27 em 04 de Agosto de 2014, 08:36
Citação de: cipri_slb em 04 de Agosto de 2014, 00:33
Citação de: T1n0_SLB em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 21:44
Citação de: PsychoFan em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 21:12
Citação de: Lm27 em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 21:02
Citação de: cipri_slb em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 19:48
Citação de: Lm27 em 03 de Agosto de 2014, 16:48
Also you dont have extra-EU players limit so transfers should be easier for you...
Porto signed Casemiro on loan, Benfica have to do the same thing with other players.
Siqueira signed for Benfica on loan, this season he go to Atletico Madrid... Loan no...
Because Benfica didnt buy him.
There's nothing wrong with players on loan, if they're good you buy them, if they dont deliver they go back
He wanted to go to Atletico, requested a salary that Benfica could not afford. Benfica is only an intermediate club, where players come, learn and leave. But for Benfica make money can not be with loaned players.
Not true.
It is the word of Siqueira against the word of Vieira, who to believe? hard.
I also think he wanted to go to Atletico
Probably....Atletico is a great team at the moment with a very good manager.
Also he can become the new Filipe Luis fot the team
It's more than probably, better league, better players, better coaches, better teammates, better salary, who the fuck would prefer Benfica to Atletico??!! Only some kid formed in Benfica.
Why you talk like Benfica is the worst club in Europe
I'm not. Just saying that it's normal Siqueira prefer Atletico to Benfica, for the reasons I have already named.
(http://www.todayonline.com/sites/default/files/styles/photo_gallery_image_lightbox/public/14866030_0.JPG?itok=zlGJnFm_)
(http://elohell.net/public/comments/original/cd082508b0abc7448962f289b0190618.png)
293 games, 172 goals... OSCAR CARDOZO! :bow2: :bow2:
Citação de: cipri_slb em 04 de Agosto de 2014, 21:32
(http://www.todayonline.com/sites/default/files/styles/photo_gallery_image_lightbox/public/14866030_0.JPG?itok=zlGJnFm_)
(http://elohell.net/public/comments/original/cd082508b0abc7448962f289b0190618.png)
293 games, 172 goals... OSCAR CARDOZO! :bow2: :bow2:
in oficial matches, otherwise it would be 198 in total :)
http://em-defesa-do-benfica.blogspot.be/2014/04/o-regresso-do-rolo-compressor.html
The handful of times I have seem him play in Europe he looked terrible.
Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Agosto de 2014, 15:08
The handful of times I have seem him play in Europe he looked terrible.
I dont want to be disrespectful but you're not wrong....I mean, in the big european games his attitude wasnt good, when Benfica was losing he was like "ok I give up", this is just my feeling though
Witch games did you watch?
Tacuara has is own style. You see him play when? Last season, in the Europa League? At that time he was coming back from a severe injury. Anyway, he was a very important player for Benfica in these last years. Scored in many decisive games, both in Portugal and in Europe. Marked an era in Benfica, will never be forgotten.
Tacuara, The Extraminator. ;D
(http://i60.tinypic.com/2ustull.jpg)
Citação de: T1n0_SLB em 06 de Agosto de 2014, 01:25
Witch games did you watch?
Falliro I don't know, me a lot.
But I wasnt saying that he's a bad player, just his attitude sometimes
Citação de: Lm27 em 06 de Agosto de 2014, 07:07
Citação de: T1n0_SLB em 06 de Agosto de 2014, 01:25
Witch games did you watch?
Falliro I don't know, me a lot.
But I wasnt saying that he's a bad player, just his attitude sometimes
Yes his attitude was bad in Europe League Final but we Benfica fans, we can not erase seven years just because of a penalty. He is the best foreign scorer in history of Benfica, Benfica have 110 years old!
He will always be a legend of our club, Cardozo!
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-lI2eI9iYv4g/Uj9uxSyg1eI/AAAAAAAAKQ4/bcE4pGHP8y0/s640/cardozo1x1y6h.gif)
Cardozo is a simple guy
Not a star full of himself
He suffered, lots of times, injustices from the fans
With the emotions speaking he responded.
Not ok but he was like one of us
Huge loss from Benfica
Well I think he has played against olympiakos a few times, looked invisible. I saw a couple of other Europa games with Benfica, can't remember which, it was only to pass the time. But I did notice he was rubbish.
That is not to say he is rubbish in his 7 years or he is not a legend to you. It's just every time I have seen him play I have been thankful he never came to Greece, not that he ever would because no one could afford him anyway.
BTW, is it true you sniffing around Mitroglou?
Citação de: Faliro em 06 de Agosto de 2014, 17:19
Well I think he has played against olympiakos a few times, looked invisible. I saw a couple of other Europa games with Benfica, can't remember which, it was only to pass the time. But I did notice he was rubbish.
That is not to say he is rubbish in his 7 years or he is not a legend to you. It's just every time I have seen him play I have been thankful he never came to Greece, not that he ever would because no one could afford him anyway.
BTW, is it true you sniffing around Mitroglou?
Hope so. Eheheh
Well, we cannot judge a player by 2 or 3 games. In a club founded in 1904, we have had thousands of scorers. Here is the rank of Cardozo (source: http://em-defesa-do-benfica.blogspot.pt/)
Overall: 12th (with 198 goals, Eusébio 1st with 638)
Portuguese league: 10th (with 112 goals, Eusébio 1st with 317)
... EUROPE: 2nd (with 34 goals, Eusébio 1st with 57 goals)
So, he is far from being rubbish. Some fans didn't like his style. I sometimes didn't like his lack of focus in the game, but I recognize story when I see it, since I'm watching Benfica live since 1978. Didn't start yesterday, and fortunately I have see lots of good players with our glorious red shirt on.
By the way, some fans didn't like Nené that was my idol when I was young, for the same reasons. He is 3rd in the overall rank with 473 goals... So, between opinions and facts there is not much to decide.
Citação de: Faliro em 06 de Agosto de 2014, 17:19
Well I think he has played against olympiakos a few times, looked invisible. I saw a couple of other Europa games with Benfica, can't remember which, it was only to pass the time. But I did notice he was rubbish.
That is not to say he is rubbish in his 7 years or he is not a legend to you. It's just every time I have seen him play I have been thankful he never came to Greece, not that he ever would because no one could afford him anyway.
BTW, is it true you sniffing around Mitroglou?
He played against Olympiacos twice, in Lisbon he scored one goal and Roberto denied one goal froma a free kick, in Pireaus Roberto denied one goal at 3minutos.
Witch more games did you watch? last seaosn he was not good from December until now.
In 2012/2013 he wass terrif in the uropa League, did you watch one of these games? Fenerbache(h), Bordeux(a), Chelsea(final), Leverkusen ?
Sorry man, I don't remember the games. In fact, if you go through my post history, maybe I have posted some games I saw him. As I said, I just remember him being a poor. Its just my opinion, who am I? I thought ninis was going to be the next big thing and he is cleaning toilets now at Parma, shows how much I know...
So it seems you have a Greek at Benfica again.. I suppose there will have to be some of this in his contract to keep him happy:
(http://a4.urbancdn.com/w/s/Pz/amhpc1xH1yCHtZ-640m.jpg)
(http://www.athena-lebensmittel.de/layout/Ouzo%20of%20Plomari.jpg)
(http://cdn3.volusion.com/ufkjo.axlew/v/vspfiles/photos/TAVLI-ALEXANDER-2.jpg)
(http://glutenfreeanna.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/NES200x.jpg)
(http://harmoniaphilosophica.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/3046272893_c9ea99d072.jpg)
(http://images.nationalgeographic.com/wpf/media-live/photos/000/016/cache/athens-worry-beads_1613_600x450.jpg)
Are those gyros on the first image? They remind me of Pita Schwarmas, or whatever, from those middle eastern themed food places.
Yes,
Gyros:
(http://www.explorecrete.com/cuisine/images/gyros_C5877.jpg)
with pita:
(http://www.the-girl-who-ate-everything.com/wp-content/uploads/blogger/-IV7Mn9fg8dE/TwO8fiUTzfI/AAAAAAAAH2A/o-eJXjA3lOE/s1600/chicken-gyros-wm.jpg)
Souvlaki:
(http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/images/20090319-pork-souvlaki.jpg)
with Pita
(http://whenthecrisishitthefan.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/souvlakipitta.jpg)
Most Greeks live on Souvlaki with pita for the last 3000 years.
I could live with gyros for the next 3000 years...
By the way, on my Inter Rail last year, I witnessed how much the balkanic countries like gyros, there were greek restaurants all over Croatia, Serbia, etc.
Wow I didn't know this.
When I was younger I assumed Greece had picked up all these eastern foods and customs when Greece was under the ottoman Empire. But the more I studied, I realised things we take for granted as eastern, Souvlaki with pita, Turkish deserts like baklava, etc were all Byzantine, ancient Greek foods adopted by the East. Its kinda similar in London. If you buy a Pizza to order, it is going to made and sold by an arab to the point that if you didnt know Pizza was Italian, you would assume it is an arab dish...
Citação de: Faliro em 13 de Agosto de 2014, 13:08
Wow I didn't know this.
When I was younger I assumed Greece had picked up all these eastern foods and customs when Greece was under the ottoman Empire. But the more I studied, I realised things we take for granted as eastern, Souvlaki with pita, Turkish deserts like baklava, etc were all Byzantine, ancient Greek foods adopted by the East. Its kinda similar in London. If you buy a Pizza to order, it is going to made and sold by an arab to the point that if you didnt know Pizza was Italian, you would assume it is an arab dish...
Italian pizza are the simple ones such as Margheritta, Quatro Staggioni, etc. I think. The pizzas we grew up eating from Pizza Hut and other places are American made ones from NYC and Chicago.
A Swede once told me they have a lot of place that serve Pizza Kebab in Sweden. Sounds like a tasty invention.
Yea but the point is, 99% of those selling Pizza in the UK are arabs. Give it another 100 years like this and people will associate Pizza with the east. The italians recently got an EU designation on Pizza to avoid this happening, as the Greeks did with Feta and Greek Yogurt.
However it is too late for Souvlaki and Gyros. Most people think that is an eastern thing now, but if they ever bother to read Homer, they will find the Argives eating souvlaki in the Odyssey. :tonge:
Nice, but italian food is better
Citação de: Faliro em 13 de Agosto de 2014, 13:43
Yea but the point is, 99% of those selling Pizza in the UK are arabs. Give it another 100 years like this and people will associate Pizza with the east. The italians recently got an EU designation on Pizza to avoid this happening, as the Greeks did with Feta and Greek Yogurt.
However it is too late for Souvlaki and Gyros. Most people think that is an eastern thing now, but if they ever bother to read Homer, they will find the Argives eating souvlaki in the Odyssey. :tonge:
I read it.
Citação de: Lm27 em 13 de Agosto de 2014, 21:37
Nice, but italian food is better
Well, I definitely could live for the rest of my life with gyros, lasagna, cannelloni, pizza, tortellini and ravioli on my lunches and dinners. Italian food is some of the best in the world, to me!
(http://images.sodahead.com/polls/001604771/1843569705_drooling_homer_785344_xlarge.gif)
Yea I could not only live with one..
My favorites are Thai, Vietnamese, Italian, Brazilian, Greek, Japanese,...
Citação de: pcssousa em 13 de Agosto de 2014, 22:32
Citação de: Faliro em 13 de Agosto de 2014, 13:43
Yea but the point is, 99% of those selling Pizza in the UK are arabs. Give it another 100 years like this and people will associate Pizza with the east. The italians recently got an EU designation on Pizza to avoid this happening, as the Greeks did with Feta and Greek Yogurt.
However it is too late for Souvlaki and Gyros. Most people think that is an eastern thing now, but if they ever bother to read Homer, they will find the Argives eating souvlaki in the Odyssey. :tonge:
I read it.
I haven't gotten the balls to read it yet.
All these dishes are good but sometimes I just feel the need to go to McDonalds/Burger king and fill my belly :drool:
I never had the privilege to taste Greek food but I could live a lifetime eating only food Italian ::)
Talking about Benfica....I dont like Luisao-Corruptos, he's a captain and a legend here, he cant leave now and in this way
Citação de: Lm27 em 15 de Agosto de 2014, 01:03
Talking about Benfica....I dont like Luisao-Corruptos, he's a captain and a legend here, he cant leave now and in this way
our President said today: Luisao will finish his career at Benfica...
True or false we will see
Citação de: Lm27 em 15 de Agosto de 2014, 01:03
Talking about Benfica....I dont like Luisao-Corruptos, he's a captain and a legend here, he cant leave now and in this way
I remember Juventus being interested in Luisão back in 2006.
Could not be a real offseason without some rumors about Luisão leaving for somewhere else. The outcome is always the same anyway.
Rumours are you after Samaris, the player I suggested you should be looking at last season.
Seems like you want 6 to 8 million euros. I don't believe we are able to pay that kind of money.
And to be honest, we can buy a better player for 8 M.
I dunno if you could find better for the price if it is €6 million. I mean if he was holding a Portuguese, Croatian, Italian or Brazilian passport he would be around €10 million considering his ability. The only reason he is so cheap is because he is Greek. Even a Serbian or Turkish passport would make him more valuable.
I kinda want him to stay. Greece rarely produces box to box midfielders with his build, technique and speed.
(http://i.imgur.com/15KDkXw.jpg?1)
faliro, how would you describe this player? It is a 6, a 8?
Best central midfielder Greece has imo. Clever midfielder who encourages a fast passing and attacking game. Tackles well, has a bit of a temper (doesn't like opposing players kicking him when he has the ball, who does?), good passer, scores goals, presses well, looks for the final pass and fast.
I would describe him as a luxury player to an extent, in that he works well playing next to an aggressive, deeper - hard tackling midfielder - because Samaris has a habit of getting forward for attacks.
I would say a solid 8/10 with lots of potential. I remove two points because every now and again, he goes to sleep misplaces a pass. This usually happens once a game and deep in his own half. I know it is not often, but I get annoyed because it is meaningless laziness, he is a clever player and should concentrate every second. The more he plays the better he becomes. He owes everything to Michel who showed massive faith in him. Here is his goal in the world cup this summer that he also set up. It kinda describes the kind of player he is:
http://seekgoals.com/2014/06/24/greece-1-0-ivory-coast-1st-half-andreas-samaris-goals/
I think he can play both as a 8 or as a 6 and he's a very solid player.
Right now, I guess we can't afford him.
I have never heard this number 6 or number 8, can you explain what they mean?
A 6 position is Fejsa. A 8 is Enzo Perez.
Interesting, we really don't use these anymore in the UK, other than, the number 10/playmaker number 1 keeper.. - number 2 fullback etc..
I was looking here to find the difference between 6 and 8.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squad_number_(association_football)
I would say Samaris is what we call a box to box midfielder. I am not sure if you have that expression in Portuguese?
Yes, we use the english expression, box to box.
A 6 is more defensive player than an 8 is.
That is what confused me. So you play Feisja as a 6? We played him more as an 8.
Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Agosto de 2014, 20:57
That is what confused me. So you play Feisja as a 6? We played him more as an 8.
Yes, we played him as a holding mid-fielder. He brought a lot of stability to that area, actually.
This is why it seems like we were talking about two different players when you got him.
Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Agosto de 2014, 21:05
This is why it seems like we were talking about two different players when you got him.
You were right about him being injury prone, though. He's been injured since like March and will only be back in January.
Yea was the same in Greece, made of glass...
Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Agosto de 2014, 20:57
That is what confused me. So you play Feisja as a 6? We played him more as an 8.
Yes, but he came to replace Matic, who played at the 6, but was much more than just an anchorman.
Matic and Enzo were two incredibly skilled midfielders that both attack and defend with incredible quality. In Benfica's model, Fejsa doesn't have the skills to play more advanced, so Jesus kept him at 6 more like a typical anchorman, when Matic left.
Samaris I see you like him a lot, what about Maniatis?
Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Agosto de 2014, 21:28
Yea was the same in Greece, made of glass...
His injury was quite suspicious and so was the silence of our medical department about it as well. From what I gather, people on the forum believed it was actually more serious than they thought at first and tried to cover up for it. It sure took them a long of time to tell us when he'd be back.
Yea, he is broken..
Citação de: brankinho_gaspar em 17 de Agosto de 2014, 21:32
Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Agosto de 2014, 20:57
That is what confused me. So you play Feisja as a 6? We played him more as an 8.
Yes, but he came to replace Matic, who played at the 6, but was much more than just an anchorman.
Matic and Enzo were two incredibly skilled midfielders that both attack and defend with incredible quality. In Benfica's model, Fejsa doesn't have the skills to play more advanced, so Jesus kept him at 6 more like a typical anchorman, when Matic left.
Samaris I see you like him a lot, what about Maniatis?
Maniatis...he was a right back - an average to good right back... One season under Valverde, as we usually do towards the end of any season... we ran out players because of injuries and sales. So Maniatis was put as a CM as an experiment. He is still there.... :disgust: What made him survive there was the fact that he buzzed around like a fly...showed lots of energy and plenty of emotion...
I think he is crap. Shit at passing, no vision. OK at tackling. Average speed. Runs a lot, some games are better than others. He is an alpha male - that is why he was in a fight with Tzavellas and Katsouranis in the World Cup and league respectively- although what he said to Tzavellas was funny.
I would say he plays as pure defensive midfielder who disrupts the play of the opposition and sometimes of his own team..and in that position I would give him 3/10.
As a Right Back which is his original position 5-6/10.
He has one or two fans who will dislike me for saying this. But I don't like this type of player. No art. We have Endinga in his position who I think is better. Coaches love him however because you know,, the usual...''he always gives 100%..''
I also think he looks a bit Neanderthal...
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ27Uu0f1j0oaN4U5mjskN0ky_LJIMci4nIUYKiWaJrdrVVoUG8WA)
So he's your Maxi Pereira ;D
Benfica fans (me included) love his passion for the game, always running and fighting,even though we know he has some major flaws in his game.
But Maxi is a better player, of course.
What happened to Sotiris Ninis? Wasn't he gonna be the next greek superstar? I heard he had some injuries that affected him a lot.
It is funny Maniatis telling anyone how to cross knowning he can't passe a single ball more than 5 meters.
I like Samaris, would be a good replacement for Enzo.
Yea, I will always like Manitais for what he said to Tzavellas. Too funny..
Citação de: brankinho_gaspar em 17 de Agosto de 2014, 22:08
So he's your Maxi Pereira ;D
Benfica fans (me included) love his passion for the game, always running and fighting,even though we know he has some major flaws in his game.
But Maxi is a better player, of course.
What happened to Sotiris Ninis? Wasn't he gonna be the next greek superstar? I heard he had some injuries that affected him a lot.
The unique case of Sotiris Ninis... what a bizarre story, yet typically Greek and perhaps not unique at all.
Superior player from an extremely young age. Talent, ability, speed - a dream of a player. He was from Albania, but of Greek parents and like many Greeks living in Albania, his parents moved at a young age to Athens for a better life.
The first time I saw him, I was shocked. Superior passer, skill (could go past players with ease)..flicks, powerful shot, strong... was hard to believe he was Greek.. :confused:
When he hit the scene, he was 16? He was already starting for PAO.. :crazy2: Víctor Muñoz had no problem selecting him for the first team because he was Spanish... had Víctor Muñoz been Greek, Ninis would have got his first starts at 25... Ninis immediately looked good, beautiful player. Had everything in his game. Pleasure to watch. Up until that point, I had not seen a Greek with his ability since Tsiartas. Now it gets interesting.. being Greece, many Greeks started to hate him. Don't ask why. They say in Greece, 'Greeks eat their own children.' This is no different. Many hated him simply because he was young and had huge ability. Welcome to Greece - a country where you can be shit and adored and talented and hated.
Ninis continued to play exceptionally well, winning all sorts of awards..dominating games in Europe and in Greece. However, the following season, his injuries started to show. These were strange injuries. Chronic stomach muscle tears and such. Many Greeks claimed he had been playing too much at too young an age and was burnt out and had wrecked his body. He slowly got back to fitness, however, Jose Peseiro (the new coach) disliked him immensely and refused to let him near the team. Most Greeks were in awe of his ability, others accused him of being 'overrated.'
The next coach, Henk Ten Cate gave him minutes. Ninis single handedly beat Roma and won games for our national team, but he was never respected the way he should have been. Although he was a wonderkid and dazzled the scouts, many Greeks in the media either out of envy or spite disliked him. His game had no flaws, so it was strange.
Finally he left PAO and went to Parma where it ended - he was never given a chance. When he played for Parma, he was there best player, but he would be benched most the time. He was loaned to PAOK, but was never given consecutive games and when he was, he caught an injury. Seeing him last season, he looked depressed and also half a yard slower for some reason. Bizarrely, he should still be in every team Greece puts out, because even faded, he offers 99% more than are other players. It's a very sad ballad. Ranieri did not call him for our next national game and Santos didn't bother bringing him to Brazil..
Most of his most sensational goals have been deleted.
Here are two typical of him. Vs Israel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do25Wm3O5ZY
Vs Roma:
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmisas_as-roma-panathinaikos-fc-2-3-glory-days_sport
This is one of many goals I remember him for, but even when he scored them.. it seems only half of Greece was happy for him.. I even went to a Greek bar to watch some games last season just to see him play, even though it was for PAOK. I had to listen to PAOK fans attack Olympiakos (that is all they do even when playing in Europe) and meet some stupid PAOK fans just to watch Ninis.. I just wanted to see what had happened to him..
Then another player came along, who was even more talented, called Fetfatzidis. He was discovered and given minutes at a very young age by Zico. He has been treated equally badly by coaches and the national team despite winning many games and being of the highest quality. He is also in Italy, with Genoa..
Silly Greeks.
I would not mind if Benfica took a gamble at Ninis (a loan, for example). Always looked like a mini Aimar to me.
I agree with that. Aimar is quite a good comparison.
Ninis probably has a very weak agent. Terrible choice after terrible choice. I think Ninis sabotaged himself a few times actually. He is designed for Iberian football. He would thrive there. He had Betis after him for a loan and he made a stupid statement saying he wants to fight for his spot in Parma and that the coach wants to give him a chance at Parma, needless to say the coach never played him for the rest of the season... I think however he would do well at Benfica. He needs a new start clearly. He is one of the few players who seems to have a tough time with clubs... yet has never really played a bad game in his life..
I think you should take Fetfatzidis, he is another level up - I think he would be a cult figure at Benfica. Watching him is worth the ticket..
Fetfatzidis is amazing. He deserves a better club.
Yea, another terrible agent... rotting in Italy... He also turned down a move to La Liga... idiot. Most skillful player of Greek origin. Would thrive at Benfica.
Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Agosto de 2014, 22:01
I also think he looks a bit Neanderthal...
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ27Uu0f1j0oaN4U5mjskN0ky_LJIMci4nIUYKiWaJrdrVVoUG8WA)
Nearly choked myself :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Julio :bow2: :bow2: :bow2: :bow2: :bow2:
Citação de: Lm27 em 20 de Agosto de 2014, 18:08
Julio :bow2: :bow2: :bow2: :bow2: :bow2:
Have you followed him at QPR? You think he still got it?
Citação de: Festivus em 20 de Agosto de 2014, 19:07
Citação de: Lm27 em 20 de Agosto de 2014, 18:08
Julio :bow2: :bow2: :bow2: :bow2: :bow2:
Have you followed him at QPR? You think he still got it?
He's not the old Julio but still a good gk, and he's better than Artur(obviously)
You have 18 teams again in your league?
Citação de: Faliro em 23 de Agosto de 2014, 20:11
You have 18 teams again in your league?
Yes, it's ridiculous. All so that Boavista could climb back to it directly from the 3rd tier. :crazy2:
I invite anyone who likes to talk football and Benfica in english to join reddit.
http://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/ There are a lot of Benfica fans regularly there (we must be one of the biggest, or probaby the biggest non-english speaking fanbase there, except the Madrid, Barça and those kind of american fans) but the Porto army is also very strong. We could use some upvotes. :P
There's also Benfica's own subreddit but it doesn't hold much interest to me, having this forum. http://www.reddit.com/r/benfica
Samaris to be put slowly slowly in the team, or baptism of fire?
Citação de: Faliro em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 01:06
Samaris to be put slowly slowly in the team, or baptism of fire?
Maybe baptism of fire. Our defensive midfielder was injured on the last game and his return is happening only in 2015. So now, we have, André Almeida, Enzo Perez, if he doesn't leave and Talisca for center midfield positions. So, there is a strong possibility that Samaris will play on the derby against Sporting.
Citação de: Faliro em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 01:06
Samaris to be put slowly slowly in the team, or baptism of fire?
Baptism of fire most likely. Against Sporting next weekend.
Every midfielder that's not him or Enzo Pérez is crap.
Any pictures from training today?
Faliro nothing..
Hope he plays good sunday, hope u watch the game and u suport us ! :D
And in 7 months http://youtu.be/2zl5E8v3ZRU?t=3m20s this again ! :DD
Olympiakos and Benfica champions again
Would love to see and hear what Jesus says and does with Samaris. I just hope Samaris is brave and makes the most of this opportunity.
Yeah Faliro, you have to watch the derby.
Citação de: Faliro em 26 de Agosto de 2014, 17:28
Would love to see and hear what Jesus says and does with Samaris. I just hope Samaris is brave and makes the most of this opportunity.
If there's something Jorge Jesus is good at is developping midfielders (Matic, Enzo, Javi, Ramires, etc.). Samaris can really benefit from the experience.
Not a bad group.
Group e looks the hardest/.
Citação de: Faliro em 28 de Agosto de 2014, 22:29
Not a bad group.
Group e looks the hardest/.
Group D looks fun, too.
Citação de: Faliro em 28 de Agosto de 2014, 22:29
Not a bad group.
Group e looks the hardest/.
It's not the worst. We don't have a big name, but all 4 teams are leveled, which may lead a sort of balance among the 4 teams. All of them have possibilities of making to the elimination stage.
Olympiakos, as an example, as typical, standard group. A big team, which is Atlético. Juventus with a little more experience and more quality on their roster when compared to Olympiakos's roster, which is better than Malmo's.
Sincerely, I don't know which is better. A group like yours or a group like ours.
Nice group
I think it's a tough group. There are no clearly weak teams in there: Monaco is a good team, the same can be said of Leverkusen and Zenit.
We can either go through easily or just screw up just as easily.
Tough group. What scares me out is that we are in the end of the month and we still do not have certains about the team. We need a striker, or two, a midfielder and we do not know if Enzo will leave or not. So many things to do in such a few days.
Now, with a good team, playing at home, we should be able to win every game. But if we don't fill our problems we problably will end the champions league with a bad sensation.
Watched the game. Was a little confused why Samaris was not given some minutes so he can get used to the stadium/fans/style etc.. I know Samaris is 100% fit, he played the summer friendlies and was training until the day he left for Lisbon.
Seems JJ believed those in the bench were not good enough..
Citação de: Faliro em 31 de Agosto de 2014, 21:09
Watched the game. Was a little confused why Samaris was not given some minutes so he can get used to the stadium/fans/style etc.. I know Samaris is 100% fit, he played the summer friendlies and was training until the day he left for Lisbon.
Seems JJ believed those in the bench were not good enough..
Many of us asked ourselves the same things. Also, Júlio César was supposed to start today and not Artur.
Shows what a crappy GK and a lack of a good striker do.
Citação de: Faliro em 31 de Agosto de 2014, 21:09
Watched the game. Was a little confused why Samaris was not given some minutes so he can get used to the stadium/fans/style etc.. I know Samaris is 100% fit, he played the summer friendlies and was training until the day he left for Lisbon.
Seems JJ believed those in the bench were not good enough..
He was basically trying to send a message to the board - "I need players, the squad isn't good enough".
It's ridiculous. He could and should've won this.
Putting Artur once again instead of Júlio César was pure unprofessionalism.
Now I have seen Artur play 90 minutes, I say Karnezis is miles better.
Citação de: Faliro em 31 de Agosto de 2014, 21:42
Now I have seen Artur play 90 minutes, I say Karnezis is miles better.
Sad but true. Pathetic goalkeeper.
What do you think about Benfica's transfers and new players
Citação de: Lm27 em 02 de Setembro de 2014, 00:36
What do you think about Benfica's transfers and new players
What do you think about Cristante?
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Setembro de 2014, 00:36
Citação de: Lm27 em 02 de Setembro de 2014, 00:36
What do you think about Benfica's transfers and new players
What do you think about Cristante?
In Italy they say he's a good talent, I think he can do well
Citação de: Lm27 em 02 de Setembro de 2014, 01:00
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Setembro de 2014, 00:36
Citação de: Lm27 em 02 de Setembro de 2014, 00:36
What do you think about Benfica's transfers and new players
What do you think about Cristante?
In Italy they say he's a good talent, I think he can do well
You never see he play?
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Setembro de 2014, 01:00
Citação de: Lm27 em 02 de Setembro de 2014, 01:00
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Setembro de 2014, 00:36
Citação de: Lm27 em 02 de Setembro de 2014, 00:36
What do you think about Benfica's transfers and new players
What do you think about Cristante?
In Italy they say he's a good talent, I think he can do well
You never see he play?
2 or 3 times...not enough to say more, but he scored on his serie a debut (or 2nd game)
Lm we have a lack of Forwards quality
We lost Rodrigo and Cardozo and we are trying alot of time to get a forward but our president its a asshole!
He signed 1 greek(faliro) and 1 italian(lm27)... Vieira looked to SerBenfiquista... ::)
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Setembro de 2014, 01:24
He signed 1 greek(faliro) and 1 italian(lm27)... Vieira looked to SerBenfiquista... ::)
cipri go back to the Deusas topic, people are asking for PM's!
btw, for Faliro and lm27, the Deusas top is where we're discussing the Fappening, join us if you want :amigo:
http://www1.skysports.com/transfer/news/21476/9453660/free-transfer-xi-the-pick-of-the-players-still-available-following-the-closure-of-the-transfer-window
Players you can still get on a free.
Citação de: jgilcruz em 02 de Setembro de 2014, 01:27
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Setembro de 2014, 01:24
He signed 1 greek(faliro) and 1 italian(lm27)... Vieira looked to SerBenfiquista... ::)
cipri go back to the Deusas topic, people are asking for PM's!
btw, for Faliro and lm27, the Deusas top is where we're discussing the Fappening, join us if you want :amigo:
Victoria Justice seemed the hottest of the bunch..
Citação de: Faliro em 03 de Setembro de 2014, 16:32
Citação de: jgilcruz em 02 de Setembro de 2014, 01:27
Citação de: cipri_slb em 02 de Setembro de 2014, 01:24
He signed 1 greek(faliro) and 1 italian(lm27)... Vieira looked to SerBenfiquista... ::)
cipri go back to the Deusas topic, people are asking for PM's!
btw, for Faliro and lm27, the Deusas top is where we're discussing the Fappening, join us if you want :amigo:
Victoria Justice seemed the hottest of the bunch..
Don't forget Jennifer Lawrence she corresponded to expectations ;D
Citação de: Faliro em 31 de Agosto de 2014, 21:09
Watched the game. Was a little confused why Samaris was not given some minutes so he can get used to the stadium/fans/style etc.. I know Samaris is 100% fit, he played the summer friendlies and was training until the day he left for Lisbon.
Seems JJ believed those in the bench were not good enough..
He didn't play because he had just arrived to the club, it takes time to adapt to a new system and possibly to a new position.
Also, Almeida was playing very well, no point substituting him. Enzo was not at his level but it's still Enzo.
This transfer window was ridiculous for us :disgust:
Citação de: SLB É O REI DO MUNDO em 04 de Setembro de 2014, 02:12
This transfer window was ridiculous for us :disgust:
Fá faque seiq >:(
What went wrong?
How was Samaris?
Artur... thoughts?
Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Setembro de 2014, 00:01
What went wrong?
How was Samaris?
Artur... thoughts?
Samaris IMO shouldn't have played. Undeniable quality, but a player with 90 minutes of game time only can't go all in on CL. Artur same shit as always, thankfully he was sent off, we played better with ten. But Jardel, CB, one of those classic substitute players fucked up hard, 2 wrong decisions, 2 goals. [sarcasm] I liked Zenit's CB, nº 24, Garay i think I heard he was a bargain for 6M only. We could go and get him. [/sarcasm]
We strated badly...
I haven't seen the goals on TV yet...but i saw two shitty passes/mistakes from Jardel that put us in problems...
And then...Artur...
That's it...
One more poor performance in CL...it's what i expect...
Vitoria hid the weaknesses of Artur and a few others it seems..
Correct me - does JJ simply play the same formation regardless?
Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Setembro de 2014, 00:30
Vitoria hid the weaknesses of Artur and a few others it seems..
Correct me - does JJ simply play the same formation regardless?
Yes CL is another level, here you can evaluate better a player, but this isn't the case, I speak for myself, I've always knew that Jardel has no quality for starting in Benfica, good for 3º/4º option, but not for starting 11. Offensively he is very poor. And that is extremely important when the CB's are the players that have more ball in a football match, the attack starts with them.
About Samaris, he as quality, no doubt. But he doesn't know/mastered completely the team processes, which are not easy. He's still in the adaptation phase.
About JJ, I didn't understand completely the question.
He did not alter the team from Vitoria, formation or players. This seems a bit strange, no?
Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Setembro de 2014, 01:57
He did not alter the team from Vitoria, formation or players. This seems a bit strange, no?
No, it was the starting 11 that everyone expected and the formation too. Benfica always plays in 4-4-2, we played very rarely in 4-3-3, I think the last time was in Piraeus.
Don't forget that Zenit is a very good team
Citação de: Lm27 em 17 de Setembro de 2014, 07:36
Don't forget that Zenit is a very good team
True but they're not exactly a powerhouse. I'd say that Leverkusen are superior to them. Time might prove me wrong, though.
Citação de: Festivus em 17 de Setembro de 2014, 07:57
Citação de: Lm27 em 17 de Setembro de 2014, 07:36
Don't forget that Zenit is a very good team
True but they're not exactly a powerhouse. I'd say that Leverkusen are superior to them. Time might prove me wrong, though.
Zenit > Leverkusen IMHO
Because I like Hulk and Rondon, and now they have Garay too
Garay, Danny, Witsel, Javi . . .
I dont espect Benfica to win nothing special this season, but i´m 100% sure that next season we will come stronger than ever, maybe by january we will have a powerfull team. All players adapted tho.
Citação de: EnglishMaestro em 21 de Setembro de 2014, 00:16
I dont espect Benfica to win nothing special this season, but i´m 100% sure that next season we will come stronger than ever, maybe by january we will have a powerfull team. All players adapted tho.
Yeah... I also don't expect us to win the Champions League this season, but you never know...
Citação de: pcssousa em 21 de Setembro de 2014, 10:54
Citação de: EnglishMaestro em 21 de Setembro de 2014, 00:16
I dont espect Benfica to win nothing special this season, but i´m 100% sure that next season we will come stronger than ever, maybe by january we will have a powerfull team. All players adapted tho.
Yeah... I also don't expect us to win the Champions League this season, but you never know...
I think we don't have team for that but i hope to be wrong
Citação de: AngolanBoy23 em 21 de Setembro de 2014, 11:09
Citação de: pcssousa em 21 de Setembro de 2014, 10:54
Citação de: EnglishMaestro em 21 de Setembro de 2014, 00:16
I dont espect Benfica to win nothing special this season, but i´m 100% sure that next season we will come stronger than ever, maybe by january we will have a powerfull team. All players adapted tho.
Yeah... I also don't expect us to win the Champions League this season, but you never know...
I think we don't have team for that but i hope to be wrong
You never know, let's wait and see.
isolated leaders :metal:
Faliro, today our "new" wonderkid Talisca, 1st goal :smokin: on fire (yes the game its supossed to be away, but only in Porto or Sporting stadium we dont play at home in portuguese league)
http://www.tvgolo.com/en/match-highlights-1411828375---39
:victory:
Citação de: iKatz em 28 de Setembro de 2014, 01:17
Faliro, today our "new" wonderkid Talisca, 1st goal :smokin: on fire (yes the game its supossed to be away, but only in Porto or Sporting stadium we dont play at home in portuguese league)
http://www.tvgolo.com/en/match-highlights-1411828375---39
:victory:
Guimarães
How was Samaris? Still struggling in the 6?
Citação de: Faliro em 28 de Setembro de 2014, 01:34
How was Samaris? Still struggling in the 6?
Samaris was ok. :)
Citação de: PsychoFan em 28 de Setembro de 2014, 01:39
Citação de: Faliro em 28 de Setembro de 2014, 01:34
How was Samaris? Still struggling in the 6?
Samaris was ok. :)
I don't think Samaris was ok.
He is such a great player, no doubt on that, but he is not the 6 that we need right now.
I really hope that he will become an amazing 6 in Benfica because we need one (unfortunately Fejsa still not available) and he was expensive.
But I believe that with work he will reach the level that Benfica need. He seems to be a very intelligent player and a hard worker.
I hope so to. O0
Samaris is still trying to adapt to our style. If all goes as planned, he'll become a tank from January on.
JJ certainly is not coaching the players properly concerning how to take a free kick...
Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Outubro de 2014, 18:19
JJ certainly is not coaching the players properly concerning how to take a free kick...
He did that once. Not anymore.
It's painfull to see Benfica playing like this. :disgust:
The system JJ plays does not seem to be using the players properly. You are playing at home against a nothing team. Samaris is playing miles too deep. He is playing where the CBs should be when Benfica are in possession.
Right now my opinion (and the opinion of many Benfica fans) is that JJ is trying to adapt the players to his system and not the opposite. And this is wrong. There are players, like André Gomes that was sold and now is in Valencia doing amazing goals, that would fit better in a 4x3x3. What a waste!! And maybe a midfield with Samaris, Cristante and Enzo would work better.
But JJ said that 4x3x3 is a tactic of small teams. I just know that we are not playing well and that in champions we are miserable.
And for this game having André Almeida available as a 6 why not play with Samaris as an 8??
And we used to do this way:
(http://www.ftpimg.com/photos/20130914137918293193990.gif)
Samaris is completely wasted sitting infront of the CBs. The only time he should be there is on goal kicks as he is a good header.
Maybe we need another coach :-X :-X
Just seems weird to take a 10 million player and remodel him to play dm against a shit team at home.
Stopped watching... unwatchable football.
The coach has your defense sitting miles to deep. The midfield is poorly positioned and I believe you are wasting players.
Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Outubro de 2014, 19:39
Stopped watching... unwatchable football.
The coach has your defense sitting miles to deep. The midfield is poorly positioned and I believe you are wasting players.
Good thing we have Talisca.
he is in form.
If the same game had been played in my club the fans would be booing whole game.
Well. Samaris had great moments in the second half.
And we won. :slb2: :slb2:
But we need to be so much better.
Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Outubro de 2014, 19:44
he is in form.
If the same game had been played in my club the fans would be booing whole game.
There aren't many teams as strong as the mighty Arouca in Greece, tho.
:tomates:
...Seriously, we are in such a disgraceful form, it's amazing we are leading 4 points ahead of the pigs.
Well it is just how deep you played. Such a different style to how we play in Greece. We would have never left the defense so deep - even vs Atletico we held a high line..
Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Outubro de 2014, 21:08
Well it is just how deep you played. Such a different style to how we play in Greece. We would have never left the defense so deep - even vs Atletico we held a high line..
This was not usual in the past years... I believe the loss of some players in the defense made them a little bit afraid of playing ahead.
http://www.wiz1.net/channel16
Samaris playing centre mid for Greece atm.
How was the game?
Shit.
Citação de: Faliro em 22 de Outubro de 2014, 23:39
How was the game?
Fell asleep. Terrible.. Both team.. It looked a Europa League group stage game..
Our coach is this in champions league. Weak as hell
What percent of the fans support JJ?
Citação de: iKatz em 22 de Outubro de 2014, 23:40
Citação de: Faliro em 22 de Outubro de 2014, 23:39
How was the game?
Fell asleep. Terrible.. Both team.. It looked a Europa League group stage game..
Our coach is this in champions league. Weak as hell
Yeah... it's always the coach. Always. The players? Nah, they are fantastic. Great players who always play well.
You never asked yourself that maybe is not the coach that is weak in the CL but the players?? Our players in Portugal are top, but in the CL are banal, when you compete against teams like Monaco, Leverkusen etc you can see the difference. How many passes Benfica failed yesterday when recovered the ball, and always in a hurry, without thinking, and then off course we suffered attacks again, the game was this for us. Few were the times that we manage to make a successfully offensive transition. And when we do it, the players decided bad at the time to create a scoring opportunity. One big example was that lance of Salvio, speaking of Salvio. What is Salvio in the Champions? Shit, basically. In Portugal? He is top, because of the weak opponents he faces, technically and physically he is a monster, but tactical even in Portugal you can see that he is weak, he just offers one thing with the ball to the team. Drible. Even in 1x3, and he has a passing line, he will try to drible them. He is dumb. He's like Quaresma, it doesn't matter the context e will always do the same thing. He will always decide for his notoriety instead of the team's. About this game, who had the obligation to win? It was Benfica? Who is the buyer club and who is the seller? Yes collectively we are the better team, I'm talking about the organization, the processes of the team, although we are not as good in a moment of the game called offensive organization, yesterday was easy to see that, but in the rest we're better. Individually our squad it's a bit inferior. So of course we could win the game, it's away but we could do it. But the game didn't went well. Like I said when we successfully made a offensive transition, the players didn't decide well. And we play with players like Tiago... Almeida... with the ball they are very limited, and Tiago... well, I dunno what he offers.
Citação de: Faliro em 23 de Outubro de 2014, 01:42
What percent of the fans support JJ?
Real life? Almost everyone supports him.
In here it's probably 50%/50%. A lot of people "hate" him because of his attitude and weird choices (and because of the 4 million euros/year he earns, too) but wouldn't have the courage to fire him if it was their choice.
In our elections for club chairman our serving president lost in this forum poll by a considerable margin and won in real life with 83%...
It's just different. People in here are way more informed about the club and also don't have to face consequences for what they say.
If you were in a café instead of an internet forum you would probably have overwhelming support for Jesus. They would blame the referee for the red card or something instead.
In Jesus we trust! :rir:
(http://i58.tinypic.com/rvc3nq.jpg)
Today it was Vintage Jesus (and vintage referee, btw).
Ridiculous match.
Only one sub used..? Man this guy is a fanatic. Def after benfica he needs some time away from football.
How was Samaris?
We lost the match when he went to the bench. Our manager is pathetic, I'm so tired of him.
His contract ends this season, for 5M shouldn't be difficult to find a good manager.
Citação de: HJDK em 27 de Outubro de 2014, 01:15
We lost the match when he went to the bench. Our manager is pathetic, I'm so tired of him.
His contract ends this season, for 5M shouldn't be difficult to find a good manager.
Personally, I'm fond of some Michel bloke. :tomates:
I knew this was coming.. :tickedoff: :disgust:
Benfica this year.... oh my god... can't describe, It's purely bullshit, crap, weak, amateur
Citação de: Faliro em 27 de Outubro de 2014, 01:11
Only one sub used..? Man this guy is a fanatic. Def after benfica he needs some time away from football.
How was Samaris?
2nd time this season and, curiously, against the two Sporting's.
Samaris played nicely in the first half. We lost the game with his substitution.
Samaris today :-X :-X What a disappointment.
What happened? Played like shit again?
Citação de: Faliro em 01 de Novembro de 2014, 01:07
What happened? Played like shit again?
Missed 300 short passes in def-att transition
Citação de: Fidags em 01 de Novembro de 2014, 03:18
Citação de: Faliro em 01 de Novembro de 2014, 01:07
What happened? Played like shit again?
Missed 300 short passes in def-att transition
And I think this is not because he isn't in his position. :confused:
He has also been playing poor internationally.
Very bad Faliro, no way he's worth 10M€.
Had to have at least other relationship with the ball. Serious mistake by Benfica.
Agree. Seems a poor transfer.
Arguably the most talented, strongest and best player Greece has, has recovered from his hardcore injuries lasting a long time. Kyriakos Papadopoulos is back and scoring also. Bayer are playing him as a CM. If Ranieri has an IQ over 32, he will start Kyriakos CM next NT game. Samaris may well start being phased out unless he starts to show something.
He scored last weekend also: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWn72fsMNtc
This player is truly blue chip, hopefully he goes somewhere big.
(http://bilder.t-online.de/b/70/54/77/32/id_70547732/610/tid_da/kyriakos-papadopoulos-laeuft-jetzt-fuer-bayer-leverkusen-auf-.jpg)
Faliro screwd Benfica with Samaris.
:metal:
As long as Olympiakos gets stronger, that is all that matters!
Joking, seriously, I think Samaris is a good player, however.... he is not good enough to play so deep and so rigid. I think like with many players, in the right conditions, a transfer can turn into a nightmare - like Feisa with us. Samaris was on fire in the world cup and with Olympiakos last season.
For example. Kasami stated he liked to play in a free role behind the striker. So many players say the same around the world. At Fulham they said he was not good enough to play that position. Olympiakos also only plays with one player in the free role behind the striker - Dominguez.
So what did Olympiakos do when Kasami came? We changed our formation. We now play a 4-3-2-1, With Kasami and Dominguez both playing free roles behind the striker. That is how far we go to make sure we get the best out of our players. Kasami was bought for 5 million. When a coach is too rigid with formations, problems begin. You have to be experimental, use all the subs every game, try players in different positions.
It seems Samaris was bought like someone buys a dog after their last one died. 'You will be sleeping in Fido's dog house, you will cuddle us on the couch here - like he used to, you will enjoy playing with this chew toy - it was Fido's favorite..' That is how English teams buy players too. They are bought for a specific role and it seems Samaris was to replace Matic.. It seems you bought Samaris with a fixed destiny as a 6? That was the end of the debate on how he can help Benfica. I believe he is better far higher up the pitch.
Either way, sounds like he struggled last game which is surprising to me as that means he has regressed.
Citação de: Faliro em 02 de Novembro de 2014, 14:48
When a coach is too rigid with formations, problems begin. You have to be experimental, use all the subs every game, try players in different positions.
You said everything. But the coach of my team is JJ so I can´t expect nothing like that from him. He's amazing in wasting players.
Important win, you're still alive
Thanks LM. Yes! we'r alive..
Talisca god save us
How was the game? Close?
Yes. Could've gone either way.
They sat back and waited to exploit our mistakes in counter-attacks but ended up probably creating even more danger than we did.
We have to play way better to get something out of this group.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10801860_10154791065940716_2575078029604009954_n.jpg?oh=461a5a213848b490c012f5d12e88251b&oe=54ED47BA&__gda__=1423785669_95017c64c61d482f905e2d20eb84a782)
Why are the photos from Portugal always so dark?
It is the Stadium of Light -
Not the stadium of Twilight...
Nacional 1 - 2 Benfica :slb2:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2A9wKrCYAAx6-G.jpg)
https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10701979_796814647044422_3016661355898058719_n.jpg?oh=cb1a159b092dea835c23e0197a821cd6&oe=54DC87FE
Our Football
Citação de: Covenant em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 21:44
https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10701979_796814647044422_3016661355898058719_n.jpg?oh=cb1a159b092dea835c23e0197a821cd6&oe=54DC87FE
Our Football
THIS. IS. TUGÃO!
empty stadiums :drool: :drool: sooooo Italy :kiss:
Citação de: Lm27 em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 22:22
empty stadiums :drool: :drool: sooooo Italy :kiss:
In Tugão, not even the big 3 sellout their stadiums.
Citação de: Festivus em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 22:23
Citação de: Lm27 em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 22:22
empty stadiums :drool: :drool: sooooo Italy :kiss:
In Tugão, not even the big 3 sellout their stadiums.
well, San Siro is always half empty or worse except Inter-Milan , Milan-Juventus, Inter Juventus :2funny:
I think because we have the same mentality, people just prefer to watch football on tv...
It is more to do with pricing. I believe if capitalism really existed, they would want full stadiums. 10,000 empty seats? Solution? Final hours 1 ticket = €3. I am sure they would get more fans.
In Greece, a weak countryside team, still sometimes thinks they are being clever charging €20 for a ticket to a nothing game... Should be €7 max.
Faliro Samaris its getting worse man.. What happen with him? yesterday he just made alot of mistakes
He has looked a bit shabby for the national team too. I think he has psychological problems as he is regressing. Perhaps a confidence issue. Looks like he was strangled by the that €10 million chain around his neck..
I was hoping K.Papadopoulos would take his spot for the NT but he dislocated his shoulder in training, so Samaris will probably get minutes this week.
Greeks seems to have a lot of problems with live in another country.
Faliro are you portuguese speaking english or you are from another country ?
Citação de: Faliro em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 22:33
It is more to do with pricing. I believe if capitalism really existed, they would want full stadiums. 10,000 empty seats? Solution? Final hours 1 ticket = €3. I am sure they would get more fans.
In Greece, a weak countryside team, still sometimes thinks they are being clever charging €20 for a ticket to a nothing game... Should be €7 max.
In my city...second division football, there are 10€ tickets
Citação de: BenficaSempre20 em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 22:39
Faliro are you portuguese speaking english or you are from another country ?
he is greek
Estádio da Luz is full in the last match, if Benfica will be the champion.
In matches against our principal rivals, the stadium is almost full.
Regular matches, about 35.000-40.000.
When Benfica plays away, we fill the stadiums because they are smaller.
In last game, against Nacional da Madeira:
https://vine.co/v/OiZQwJ5bP2j
https://vine.co/v/OiZxTJPgUZd
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2FcJhLIYAA4PBz.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B2FaKpWIYAIbQvN.jpg)
Citação de: iKatz em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 22:42
Citação de: BenficaSempre20 em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 22:39
Faliro are you portuguese speaking english or you are from another country ?
he is greek
Ah ok thanks O0 But he is the only foreign in serbenfiquista ? Sorry for the bad english
that's because you have fans all over the country....I bet it's the same with Porto and Sporting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_SqfWSZxLk
"Away game" for us some months ago
30 000
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Lisbon subway when we won in May the portuguese league
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=056OLCILJK4
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Lisbon streets when we won in May the portuguese league
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWA3aWdKNKY
And this happens in all country.. Porto and Sporting have fans all over the country too but not even close as Benfica!
Citação de: Lm27 em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 22:45
that's because you have fans all over the country....I bet it's the same with Porto and Sporting
Porto (almost) only has fans in the North region.
Sporting and Benfica fans are more dispersed but with a very big advantage to Benfica.
In our stadium, until now, we have better assistants than porto or sporting.
Away all the three have good support, but I think that Benfica has more. :)
(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/p417x417/10603333_10154587602210716_861555067535368437_n.jpg?oh=6e49a8be66e91863b3939356438231c8&oe=54DE93B7)
Citação de: BenficaSempre20 em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 22:44
Citação de: iKatz em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 22:42
Citação de: BenficaSempre20 em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 22:39
Faliro are you portuguese speaking english or you are from another country ?
he is greek
Ah ok thanks O0 But he is the only foreign in serbenfiquista ? Sorry for the bad english
Lm27, below your last post.
clubs like Rio Ave have fans? or just 10 people support the club?
Lm27 This is the stadium of Rio Ave ...
Citação de: Covenant em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 21:44
https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10701979_796814647044422_3016661355898058719_n.jpg?oh=cb1a159b092dea835c23e0197a821cd6&oe=54DC87FE
Our Football
This is HELL!
http://youtu.be/ZE2HBstkkqw?t=1m15s
Citação de: cipri_slb em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 23:01
Lm27 This is the stadium of Rio Ave ...
Citação de: Covenant em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 21:44
https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10701979_796814647044422_3016661355898058719_n.jpg?oh=cb1a159b092dea835c23e0197a821cd6&oe=54DC87FE
Our Football
yes, they probably have 20 or 30 fans
Citação de: iKatz em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 23:02
This is HELL!
http://youtu.be/ZE2HBstkkqw?t=1m15s
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-gOVZJs-W5pE/U07_avMNWHI/AAAAAAAAAUc/pv6pcBcc_vk/s1600/848747403.gif)
why all these celebrations for a league title?
No Name
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkqJOUsBHTw
The game that give us our last portuguese league. Full stadium :smitten:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxuMVSZYlNQ
Citação de: Covenant em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 22:39
Greeks seems to have a lot of problems with live in another country.
It is because Greeks are very middle class. They are wrapped in wool. Players from poor backgrounds adapt because that is their only option. Greeks tend to want to be treated very well rather than giving 120% to make sure they are number one. That is just my opinion. However, I could be wrong. Greeks like the good life, separating a Greek from his mother - is like separating a human from his spine. That is my experience.
When you see players from Serbia, Albania etc They seem to fight hard.
Samaris is a player I thought could succeed at Benfica. I hoped he could evolve and build on his good foundations. It is still early, but we will have to see.
Citação de: Lm27 em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 23:07
why all these celebrations for a league title?
Because... it's league title!
You celebrated more last may than 90% of Inter fans in 2010 :disgust:
you have great supporters.
Our last 100% soldout game was this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dfn3LggF060
Citação de: Lm27 em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 23:19
You celebrated more last may than 90% of Inter fans in 2010 :disgust:
you have great supporters.
Our last 100% soldout game was this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dfn3LggF060
Pirlo :disgust:
Then, great criation by those 3 players. Well done.
Lm this is how works in big games with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNXc-regjxk
How it works there? For example, when Inter go to Juve stadium play
Citação de: iKatz em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 23:26
Lm this is how works in big games with
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNXc-regjxk
How it works there? For example, when Inter go to Juve stadium play
similar but not at this level....especially Inter,Milan and Juventus fans dont have this passion.
Best fans in Italy are in Rome, Curva Sud Roma
(http://www.laroma24.it/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/curva_sud_fumogeni_roma_juve_ci_2101141.jpg)
Yes, that's what I heard, best fans are in Roma, Napoli too.
Citação de: Faliro em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 22:33
It is more to do with pricing. I believe if capitalism really existed, they would want full stadiums. 10,000 empty seats? Solution? Final hours 1 ticket = €3. I am sure they would get more fans.
In Greece, a weak countryside team, still sometimes thinks they are being clever charging €20 for a ticket to a nothing game... Should be €7 max.
In Tugao it has nothing to do with prices, clubs just dont have fan base.
Citação de: PsychoFan em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 23:33
Yes, that's what I heard, best fans are in Roma, Napoli too.
Napoli fans are actually noisy, but the best are in Rome
Lm27 best derby in Italy?
AC Milan - Inter
Roma - Lazio
Right?
Citação de: iKatz em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 23:38
Lm27 best derby in Italy?
AC Milan - Inter
Roma - Lazio
Right?
Ac Milan fans and Inter most of the time are friends and they go to the stadium togheter....
Roma-Lazio usually offer worse players and football (not these days) but there is real passion
In napoli there is good atmosphere too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0j4uXQltZ0Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NZGGOg0yiY
Inter - Juve is the greatest and biggest rivalry in Italy, i think. Ain't that right, Lm27?
Regarding Benfica, if you want some fine examples of Benfica fans in big games, there's plenty.
Lille - Benfica (Champions League, 2005/06 at Stade de France, had 40(or so) thousand Benfica fans. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pmkLDizgy0
PSG - Benfica (Europa League, 2010/11 at Parc des Princes, had 20(or so) thousand Benfica fans) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZXnmI9iphk
At home, especially games of the past at the old Stadium of light(120.000 in capacity).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8MaFcC84l8 (Champions League semi final against Steaua Bucarest, in 1988)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqg6dBeh5Ik (Champions League semi final against Marseille, in 1990)
Yeah, that speaker is something else.
This year juventus will win again the league?? I am not following.
After last year I really hate them and I hope that someone stop them.
Citação de: Maxi_14 em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 23:54
This year juventus will win again the league?? I am not following.
After last year I really hate them and I hope that someone stop them.
Roma is a decent team this season, we'll see...
Citação de: Maxi_14 em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 23:54
This year juventus will win again the league?? I am not following.
After last year I really hate them and I hope that someone stop them.
Roma is the only who can stop them, but it's not easy, they have the best squad in Italy, and the referees. The coach they have it's not as good as the last, but they probably will be champions again.
Milan will be the champion, for sure.
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 23:52
Inter - Juve is the greatest and biggest rivalry in Italy, i think. Ain't that right, Lm27?
Regarding Benfica, if you want some fine examples of Benfica fans in big games, there's plenty.
Lille - Benfica (Champions League, 2005/06 at Stade de France, had 40(or so) thousand Benfica fans. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pmkLDizgy0
PSG - Benfica (Europa League, 2010/11 at Parc des Princes, had 20(or so) thousand Benfica fans) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZXnmI9iphk
At home, especially games of the past at the old Stadium of light(120.000 in capacity).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8MaFcC84l8 (Champions League semi final against Steaua Bucarest, in 1988)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqg6dBeh5Ik (Champions League semi final against Marseille, in 1990)
Yes it's the biggest one....also because ac Milan is in the middle, they have rivals but there isnt hate with no one.
Of course I know Benfica fans...I prefer your stadium in big games than Dragao stadium, Porto fans are awful...and their overrated expensive players are awful too
Citação de: T1n0_SLB em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 23:58
Milan will be the champion, for sure.
Sure....Milan 17 points, Inter 16 points, Juventus and Roma 28 and 25 :2funny:
Generally speaking, which club do Inter fans hate the most? Milan or Juventus? And what about Milan fans? Don't Milan and Juventus have a pretty decent relationship? And isn't their rivalry pretty tame despite both being the two most successful Italian clubs?
Citação de: Lm27 em 11 de Novembro de 2014, 00:01
Citação de: T1n0_SLB em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 23:58
Milan will be the champion, for sure.
Sure....Milan 17 points, Inter 16 points, Juventus and Roma 28 and 25 :2funny:
wait and see
Citação de: Lm27 em 11 de Novembro de 2014, 00:00
Citação de: Elvis the Pelvis em 10 de Novembro de 2014, 23:52
Inter - Juve is the greatest and biggest rivalry in Italy, i think. Ain't that right, Lm27?
Regarding Benfica, if you want some fine examples of Benfica fans in big games, there's plenty.
Lille - Benfica (Champions League, 2005/06 at Stade de France, had 40(or so) thousand Benfica fans. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pmkLDizgy0
PSG - Benfica (Europa League, 2010/11 at Parc des Princes, had 20(or so) thousand Benfica fans) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZXnmI9iphk
At home, especially games of the past at the old Stadium of light(120.000 in capacity).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8MaFcC84l8 (Champions League semi final against Steaua Bucarest, in 1988)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqg6dBeh5Ik (Champions League semi final against Marseille, in 1990)
Yes it's the biggest one....also because ac Milan is in the middle, they have rivals but there isnt hate with no one.
Of course I know Benfica fans...I prefer your stadium in big games than Dragao stadium, Porto fans are awful...and their overrated expensive players are awful too
Ac Milan is shit! ;D :amigo:
Milan directors ruin the club, what a bunch of idiots.
Citação de: Festivus em 11 de Novembro de 2014, 00:02
Generally speaking, which club do Inter fans hate the most? Milan or Juventus? And what about Milan fans? Don't Milan and Juventus have a pretty decent relationship? And isn't their rivalry pretty tame despite both being the two most successful Italian clubs?
definitely juventus is the most hated club by everybody.
Relationship between Milan and Juventus fans? Not so good after the "Muntari's goal" . Also the rivalry isnt big because Milan isnt so good in the league, Juventus won 30 titles, Milan and Inter 2nds with 18....they dont have a real historical competitor
Citação de: Lm27 em 11 de Novembro de 2014, 00:08
Citação de: Festivus em 11 de Novembro de 2014, 00:02
Generally speaking, which club do Inter fans hate the most? Milan or Juventus? And what about Milan fans? Don't Milan and Juventus have a pretty decent relationship? And isn't their rivalry pretty tame despite both being the two most successful Italian clubs?
definitely juventus is the most hated club by everybody.
Relationship between Milan and Juventus fans? Not so good after the "Muntari's goal" . Also the rivalry isnt big because Milan isnt so good in the league, Juventus won 30 titles, Milan and Inter 2nds with 18....they dont have a real historical competitor
I wasn't referring to the relationship between their fans but between their boards. As far as I know, Juventus and Milan kinda got close to each other on an institutional level after Calciopoli because they found an enemy in common in Inter.
Surprised Milan doesn't get more flack for being Berlusconi's club.
Citação de: Festivus em 11 de Novembro de 2014, 00:10
Citação de: Lm27 em 11 de Novembro de 2014, 00:08
Citação de: Festivus em 11 de Novembro de 2014, 00:02
Generally speaking, which club do Inter fans hate the most? Milan or Juventus? And what about Milan fans? Don't Milan and Juventus have a pretty decent relationship? And isn't their rivalry pretty tame despite both being the two most successful Italian clubs?
definitely juventus is the most hated club by everybody.
Relationship between Milan and Juventus fans? Not so good after the "Muntari's goal" . Also the rivalry isnt big because Milan isnt so good in the league, Juventus won 30 titles, Milan and Inter 2nds with 18....they dont have a real historical competitor
I wasn't referring to the relationship between their fans but between their boards. As far as I know, Juventus and Milan kinda got close to each other on an institutional level after Calciopoli because they found an enemy in common in Inter.
Surprised Milan doesn't get more flack for being Berlusconi's club.
Oh, maybe you're right, Im not a Calciopoli expert so I can't help....the only thing I know is that there arent 100% clean clubs in Italy, there is a lot of corruption between club president, they probably exchange favours too...
I think calciopoli was bigger than we think or we know...there is for sure some secret stuff that only powerful people know.
We're talking about the richest italian families...I dont want even imagine what there is behind this story
Citação de: Lm27 em 11 de Novembro de 2014, 00:15
Citação de: Festivus em 11 de Novembro de 2014, 00:10
Citação de: Lm27 em 11 de Novembro de 2014, 00:08
Citação de: Festivus em 11 de Novembro de 2014, 00:02
Generally speaking, which club do Inter fans hate the most? Milan or Juventus? And what about Milan fans? Don't Milan and Juventus have a pretty decent relationship? And isn't their rivalry pretty tame despite both being the two most successful Italian clubs?
definitely juventus is the most hated club by everybody.
Relationship between Milan and Juventus fans? Not so good after the "Muntari's goal" . Also the rivalry isnt big because Milan isnt so good in the league, Juventus won 30 titles, Milan and Inter 2nds with 18....they dont have a real historical competitor
I wasn't referring to the relationship between their fans but between their boards. As far as I know, Juventus and Milan kinda got close to each other on an institutional level after Calciopoli because they found an enemy in common in Inter.
Surprised Milan doesn't get more flack for being Berlusconi's club.
Oh, maybe you're right, Im not a Calciopoli expert so I can't help....the only thing I know is that there arent 100% clean clubs in Italy, there is a lot of corruption between club presidente, they probably exchange favours too...
I think calciopoli was bigger than we think or we know...there are for sure some secret stuff that only powerful people know
Definitely. Here in Portugal, it's easier to figure out who's behind match fixing scandals. There's a godfather, pinto da costa, and the rest are all his pawns and subordinates.
Citação de: Festivus em 11 de Novembro de 2014, 00:16
Citação de: Lm27 em 11 de Novembro de 2014, 00:15
Citação de: Festivus em 11 de Novembro de 2014, 00:10
Citação de: Lm27 em 11 de Novembro de 2014, 00:08
Citação de: Festivus em 11 de Novembro de 2014, 00:02
Generally speaking, which club do Inter fans hate the most? Milan or Juventus? And what about Milan fans? Don't Milan and Juventus have a pretty decent relationship? And isn't their rivalry pretty tame despite both being the two most successful Italian clubs?
definitely juventus is the most hated club by everybody.
Relationship between Milan and Juventus fans? Not so good after the "Muntari's goal" . Also the rivalry isnt big because Milan isnt so good in the league, Juventus won 30 titles, Milan and Inter 2nds with 18....they dont have a real historical competitor
I wasn't referring to the relationship between their fans but between their boards. As far as I know, Juventus and Milan kinda got close to each other on an institutional level after Calciopoli because they found an enemy in common in Inter.
Surprised Milan doesn't get more flack for being Berlusconi's club.
Oh, maybe you're right, Im not a Calciopoli expert so I can't help....the only thing I know is that there arent 100% clean clubs in Italy, there is a lot of corruption between club presidente, they probably exchange favours too...
I think calciopoli was bigger than we think or we know...there are for sure some secret stuff that only powerful people know
Definitely. Here in Portugal, it's easier to figure out who's behind match fixing scandals. There's a godfather, pinto da costa, and the rest are all his pawns and subordinates.
We cant even imagine how dirty football is in southern and eastern europe and all the money behind it...I'm pretty sure many games are fixed.
Did you watch Real Madrid -Rayo? What do you think about Rayo's goal?
Yeah, that pass by James. You think it was on purpose?
There are murmurs.. nothing published... but whispers... some quiet little rumours... Roberto may be offered to represent Greece...
Heheheh
:rir: :rir:
(http://i.imgur.com/zG2oAuU.jpg)
;D
Hey, what is this? Are you insinuating something?
:2funny:
André Almeida and Pizzi are best friends. And it seems that Samaris gets along very well with them.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B04v3EpIEAELrLb.jpg)
;D
Maybe they do the Spartan system - the best fighters are those who live very close together?
I don't think so, those are not our best fighters, Enzo and Maxi are.
Maxi :bow2:
He is our true fighter.
And Luísao is the leader.
Thoughts on the weekend and current situation?
Cup match against Moreirense (at home).
A first league squad we won at home with some difficulty at fifth journey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYJYWmuXtjY
They play well and they are very agressive and coordinated in defending.
But we can't expect nothing different than pass to next round.
Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Novembro de 2014, 16:50
Thoughts on the weekend and current situation?
Looks like Benfica and Porto are now allies.
I think I'm gonna throw up...
Citação de: LMFPC em 21 de Novembro de 2014, 17:40
Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Novembro de 2014, 16:50
Thoughts on the weekend and current situation?
Looks like Benfica and Porto are now allies.
I think I'm gonna throw up...
Don't believe in everything you see on newspapers
Citação de: Eddie_ em 21 de Novembro de 2014, 17:45
Citação de: LMFPC em 21 de Novembro de 2014, 17:40
Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Novembro de 2014, 16:50
Thoughts on the weekend and current situation?
Looks like Benfica and Porto are now allies.
I think I'm gonna throw up...
Don't believe in everything you see on newspapers
I believe in "The man of thrust". :2funny:
Benfica 4 - 1 Moreirense
The team today played better. The first 30 minutes of the first half... OMG :drool: :drool: :drool:
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Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Novembro de 2014, 16:50
Thoughts on the weekend and current situation?
Portuguese cup,last 32 round. We have beaten Moreirense at home by 4-1,while Sporting defeated a third division team,Espinho,by 0-5. Porto were knocked out in the last round by Sporting and today there is the big Minho derby between Guimarães and Braga.
Off the pitch,as usual,big problems.The league is bankruped and they are asking the clubs to help paying the debt.The problem is that most clubs are almost bankruped and have problems to even pay the wages to their players.
Don't think Benfica and Porto are allies. Both boards are just trying to find some agreements together with the other clubs to solve this situation because,if they don't, professional competition (match organisation,payments to referees,sponsors) could be in danger. But this "alliance" won't last long,since most clubs (including Porto) want the TV rights to be centralized while Benfica wants to continue with the BenficaTV project,broadcasting our own home league matches.
How was Samaris?
Citação de: Faliro em 26 de Novembro de 2014, 22:25
How was Samaris?
He was average. Failed some passes, he was booked early in the game, which unabled him to play more aggressively. On the bright side, he made some good interceptions. Overall, he wasn't too bad, but he wasn't good either.
Citação de: Faliro em 26 de Novembro de 2014, 22:25
How was Samaris?
For the public radio station, Antena 1, he was the best player of Benfica in the game.
Citação de: LMFPC em 27 de Novembro de 2014, 13:45
Citação de: Faliro em 26 de Novembro de 2014, 22:25
How was Samaris?
For the public radio station, Antena 1, he was the best player of Benfica in the game.
....
Almeida was much better than Samaris
Citação de: Faliro em 26 de Novembro de 2014, 22:25
How was Samaris?
imho he is improving from game to game. He still misses some easy passes that can do terrible damage with dangerous counter attacks.
So, still not in the level we need for sure but much better than when he arrive. I hope he will get there.
Anyway he's playing more as defensive midfielder and i think he would be better as box to box midfielder. But against Enzo he have no chance.
Samaris was the worst player on the pitch in the first half. Second half was much better.
I won't judge him in this position (playing as a holding midfielder). It just doesn't suit him.He has to play further forward. But right now,with Fejsa and Ruben Amorim injured and with Cristante still getting used to how we play,we have no other choice but to play him there.
He'll prove to be a very good player for us
It was his best game with Benfica, but still with many mistakes. We'll see...
Going to be watching this one!
Almeida and Samaris the only two Europeans in the 11. Everyone else South American.
Lets go benfica!!! :bandeiraslb2: :bandeiraslb2: :bandeiraslb2:
We are crazy with Samaris. He is failing so much :buck2:
Not a bad game.
Good first goal, nice movement. Second goal, suicide keeper. Luisao was slightly offside.
Concerning Samaris, it seems he has been instructed to play the destroyer and not join in with the attacks like Perez. He had quite a few physical battles and seemed to do OK. Nothing to get that crazy about imo. He plays mostly the safe the pass to keep the ball moving. He does not seem very relaxed and still a bit mechanical. Can see his confidence is not very big atm. At least he has nice boots.
Citação de: Faliro em 30 de Novembro de 2014, 18:51
Not a bad game.
Good first goal, nice movement. Second goal, suicide keeper. Luisao was slightly offside.
Concerning Samaris, it seems he has been instructed to play the destroyer and not join in with the attacks like Perez. He had quite a few physical battles and seemed to do OK. Nothing to get that crazy about imo. He plays mostly the safe the pass to keep the ball moving. He does not seem very relaxed and still a bit mechanical. Can see his confidence is not very big atm. At least he has nice boots.
Always looking to bright side of life. :2funny:
Faliro did you see JJ and Samaris?? :D
For a moment I had pity of him. The things JJ said ::)
I saw two incidents with JJ and Samaris. One I think he was screaming at him. The second they were discussing something. Would love a translation.
JJ seemed pissed off when Luisao scored, does this guy always has a lemon in his mouth?
Samaris was lucky he was not injured, very hard tackle on him at the end, his scream was very loud.
Some nice crowd violence. Good to see. Helped with the entertainment.
All in all, easy game for Benfica who were superior.
Citação de: Faliro em 30 de Novembro de 2014, 19:58
I saw two incidents with JJ and Samaris. One I think he was screaming at him. The second they were discussing something. Would love a translation.
JJ seemed pissed off when Luisao scored, does this guy always has a lemon in his mouth?
Samaris was lucky he was not injured, very hard tackle on him at the end, his scream was very loud.
Some nice crowd violence. Good to see. Helped with the entertainment.
All in all, easy game for Benfica who were superior.
Jesus is weird. When we're winning or playing better than the opponent he never shuts up and never sits down. When we're losing or playing worse... he just stays there silent.
Académica 0 - 2 SL Benfica
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You still havent told me what JJ was saying to Samaris.. ::)
Citação de: Faliro em 30 de Novembro de 2014, 22:39
You still havent told me what JJ was saying to Samaris.. ::)
I didn't get much but I think I heard something like a very agressive "não estás a perceber, caralho?" which translates roughly to "are you not fucking understanding?!!!!".
To be fair, sometimes not even portuguese players understand Jesus so it's quite obvious Samaris was just nodding and pretending to be concentrated on something else. ;D
.
Faliro please tell me that Samaris is able to do better :-X
I know he's playing on a different position and it can be hard dealing with Jesus lol, but he has to show something more.
By the way, what do you think about Fejsa, it seems that the greeks didn't like him that much. But I miss him so badly...
Fejsa was mostly injured, so we gave up on him, he is made of glass.
As for samaris, yes he can play better than tonight. However, he has been shit since after the WC. I have no idea why. He seems slower, stupid, makes mistakes, lost. No idea what happened to this player.
I watched him closely today. I did not see all the misplaced passes I was reading about in Geral forum. However I did see a player playing at half capacity and giving away fouls in silly areas. On the plus he was very psychical - not used to seeing this in him.
I would give him 6/7 out of 10 today. I think he needs more games to get used to playing as the last man in front of the defense.
The first goal of Benfica impressed me today, especially the pass by Perez. Samaris played in that sort of position at olympiakos and had some similar assists. He was far more attacking in those days. I don't think Michel thought he was suited to play at 6. Check out the assist at 0.59:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAGR07b4aSI&t=0m59s
Citação de: Faliro em 30 de Novembro de 2014, 22:39
You still havent told me what JJ was saying to Samaris.. ::)
He's telling Samaris how to put the supports (feet) when it is pressed. Something basic, that Samaris should already totally dominate.
Citação de: PsychoFan em 01 de Dezembro de 2014, 01:25
Citação de: Faliro em 30 de Novembro de 2014, 22:39
You still havent told me what JJ was saying to Samaris.. ::)
He's telling Samaris how to put the supports (feet) when it is pressed. Something basic, that Samaris should already totally dominate.
You mean how to stand up??
Citação de: Faliro em 01 de Dezembro de 2014, 01:33
Citação de: PsychoFan em 01 de Dezembro de 2014, 01:25
Citação de: Faliro em 30 de Novembro de 2014, 22:39
You still havent told me what JJ was saying to Samaris.. ::)
He's telling Samaris how to put the supports (feet) when it is pressed. Something basic, that Samaris should already totally dominate.
You mean how to stand up??
No. Have you seen the video?
Yea but i just saw bizarre hand movements. I could not work out what the hell they were discussing.
Citação de: Faliro em 01 de Dezembro de 2014, 01:50
Yea but i just saw bizarre hand movements. I could not work out what the hell they were discussing.
It's funny, after Raul José (the assistant), have told him, that he was being filmed, he returns to Samaris and begins to speak more calmly and gives him a small slap and motivates him. Classic JJ lol.
Anyway, go to the time 81:56, JJ tells Samaris, "you are like this", and he makes the example, and then after, he says "When you should be like this" and shows him how he sould stand. (Hope you understand, my english is very limited)
Ok, so basically Samaris was in the wrong position of the oncoming attacking player. Makes sense. Probably JJ was pissed off at the fouls he was giving away near the box and was saying better positioning could cure the problem.
So faliro, u think Samaris can do a better "job" if Enzo Perez leave Benfica next month, and he just go to the position "8"?
That is his natural position. He is def capable talent wise of playing well there at a high level. Depends on his confidence and form whether he succeeds.
To be honest, I was really happy seeing JJ attack him. This is how you build character. Samaris is not playing at his best and needs this type of coach yelling at him. On the plus side, he improved greatly at Olympiacos. I think Benfica can take him to the next level as a player.
Good game today.
Samaris played nice at Defensive Midfielder. :)
Nice, game time is the best teacher.. There is only a limited amount you can learn on the training field. Games is what helps improve players.
JJ could be building something nice.
SL Benfica 3-0 Belenenses
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Samaris has what it takes to succeed.
Let's hope he does.
WE WON :slb2: :slb2: :slb2:
:dance: :dance: :dance:
Samaris was amazing :D
porto 0 - 2 SL Benfica
:clap1: :clap1:
Saw the second half.
LOL @ Samaris kicking the shit out that porto player!
O0 O0 O0 O0
On the highway to the 34th title. :)
6 points and h2h advantage.
(http://www.zerozero.pt/img/galerias/752/234752_galeria_fc_porto_v_benfica_primeira_liga_j13_2014_15.jpg.jpg)
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:slb2: :slb2:
Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Dezembro de 2014, 22:27
Saw the second half.
LOL @ Samaris kicking the shit out that porto player!
O0 O0 O0 O0
Learn this word Faliro: "Cacetada"
The capacity of doing that seems to be a very interesting characteristic of Samaris, or at least it was today! :metal:
Citação de: H em 14 de Dezembro de 2014, 23:51
Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Dezembro de 2014, 22:27
Saw the second half.
LOL @ Samaris kicking the shit out that porto player!
O0 O0 O0 O0
Learn this word Faliro: "Cacetada"
The capacity of doing that seems to be a very interesting characteristic of Samaris, or at least it was today! :metal:
:bow2: Not ashamed to say I enjoyed that Cacetada ;D
The most beautiful cacetada I've ever seen. :)
https://cld.pt/dl/download/9e4d0ade-75b3-4cf3-a075-e4dd202b218b/SLB%20fotos/Futebol%20A/2014-2015/30%20%5BLiga%2014-15%20Jornada%2013%5D%20Porto%200-2%20Benfica/17834248_TAZHt.jpeg
Citação de: Covenant em 15 de Dezembro de 2014, 22:53
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:coolsmiley:
Would love to see that Cacetada again!
Out of the cup.
1-2 at home against Braga.
Shameful.
:huh:
What??
Citação de: Faliro em 19 de Dezembro de 2014, 01:50
:huh:
What??
Our "master of the tactics" ended the game with four stikers, two wingers and a winger at left back...
:huh: :huh: I mean wtf...with JJ... :estrelas:
Citação de: Faliro em 19 de Dezembro de 2014, 01:53
:huh: :huh: I mean wtf...with JJ... :estrelas:
He has a bad record against Braga... although this was the first time in history that Braga beat us at home.
JJ has nice things, but his flaws can be, sometimes, bigger than his virtues.
In my opinion, this should be the last year of JJ at Benfica, with or without the win of the 34th championship.
When Benfica loses, its always because of JJ. ;D
My view of the game: Benfica didn't win because it wasn't effective. Apart from the goals, Benfica created at least 6 chances. Braga just 1. Wins who scores. It's football, sometimes you are superior and you lose, and sometimes you are inferior and you win. This week was a good example of this.
Branko Milovanovic trying to convince Rui Fonte to leave Benfica for the sake of the AEK and he traveled to Athens to "close" agreement with the Union for the loan of 24 year old offensive.
(http://www.sport24.gr/incoming/article3207697.ece/BINARY/w620/Untitled+1.jpg)
http://www.sport24.gr/football/omades/Aek/h-aek-vlepei-royi-fonte.3207698.html
Penafiel 0 - 3 SL Benfica :slb2: :slb2:
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Citação de: Faliro em 20 de Dezembro de 2014, 13:25
Branko Milovanovic trying to convince Rui Fonte to leave Benfica for the sake of the AEK and he traveled to Athens to "close" agreement with the Union for the loan of 24 year old offensive.
http://www.sport24.gr/football/omades/Aek/h-aek-vlepei-royi-fonte.3207698.html
Jorge Jesus just said that Rui Fonte will be promoted to the main team as soon as he recovers from injury.
Citação de: Faliro em 15 de Dezembro de 2014, 00:01
Citação de: H em 14 de Dezembro de 2014, 23:51
Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Dezembro de 2014, 22:27
Saw the second half.
LOL @ Samaris kicking the shit out that porto player!
O0 O0 O0 O0
Learn this word Faliro: "Cacetada"
The capacity of doing that seems to be a very interesting characteristic of Samaris, or at least it was today! :metal:
:bow2: Not ashamed to say I enjoyed that Cacetada ;D
It was unvoluntary to be fair ;D he slipped...
We sold Enzo "Pauzudo" (Big-dicked Enzo) to Valencia, for 25M, in the middle of the season, which is always outrageous. But apparently this opened the doors for Bryan "Diamante" (Bryan Diamond), which seems to be a little Pirlo about to explode, so all is not lost. ^-^
Citação de: H em 06 de Janeiro de 2015, 13:39
We sold Enzo "Pauzudo" (Big-dicked Enzo) to Valencia, for 25M, in the middle of the season, which is always outrageous. But apparently this opened the doors for Bryan "Diamante" (Bryan Diamond), which seems to be a little Pirlo about to explode, so all is not lost. ^-^
JJ always said that Samaris and Cristante are for the 6 position.
So this actually opened the doors for Talisca and Pizzi.
God help us. ::)
January sales - imo - are pathetic and unprofessional.
Citação de: Faliro em 06 de Janeiro de 2015, 18:22
January sales - imo - are pathetic and unprofessional.
why?
Samaris will continue to grow up and Cristante is a diamond we have in our hands. He has to learn a lot tough, but he's a great player with a big future ahead. I think that in two years, he will be an undisputed player in the team. By that time, I also expect that Samaris will be playing as a number 8 instead of number 6 position.
Citação de: Lm27 em 07 de Janeiro de 2015, 23:15
Citação de: Faliro em 06 de Janeiro de 2015, 18:22
January sales - imo - are pathetic and unprofessional.
why?
Because, if you are still in Europe and have a good team playing balla, why would you want to sell major players or change coach? Surely you would be more interested in buying good players and off loading your shit in January?
Every year, come January, Olympiakos sells its biggest players or changes coach thus destroying any chance of progressing in Europe with the league always easily won anyway..
For me, the big sales and coach changes should be made in the summer unless the team is in serious trouble in January.
Citação de: Faliro em 08 de Janeiro de 2015, 00:02
Citação de: Lm27 em 07 de Janeiro de 2015, 23:15
Citação de: Faliro em 06 de Janeiro de 2015, 18:22
January sales - imo - are pathetic and unprofessional.
why?
Because, if you are still in Europe and have a good team playing balla, why would you want to sell major players or change coach? Surely you would be more interested in buying good players and off loading your shit in January?
Every year, come January, Olympiakos sells its biggest players or changes coach thus destroying any chance of progressing in Europe with the league always easily won anyway..
For me, the big sales and coach changes should be made in the summer unless the team is in serious trouble in January.
yep, I hate that....still remember when we sold sneijder :estrelas:
What news guys?
SL Benfica 3 - 0 Vitória de Guimarães :slb2: :slb2:
Great game. Note that Guimarães is in third place and is one of the best teams. Samaris played very well and is involved in the third goal with a superb pass.
:dance: :dance:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7A2UA2IIAADVMu.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7A19Q2IEAEuO0S.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7A14XQIgAAATGi.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7A1kxaIgAAFtmS.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7AyEJVCIAA3a7K.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7Aap6hCMAALZOm.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7AxmR4CAAAA64d.jpg)
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Very cool.
Any highlights?
For now these are the goals:
1-0 Jonas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQIUPBRqJ8o
2-0 Ola John
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n16CefPJQBA
3-0 Gaitán
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4ssLc-gasM
Last goal you just ripped them to pieces. ;D
Highlights:
http://www.ojogo.pt/Futebol/1a_liga/interior.aspx?content_id=4335002
Benfica was far superior to Vitoria Guimaraes.
da Luz :drool: :drool:
Citação de: Faliro em 10 de Janeiro de 2015, 21:24
Last goal you just ripped them to pieces. ;D
Though they're in 3rd place, they're really not that good. They lost with the reserve team of Sporting like a week ago, using their full main team, for the Cup.
You know when you wake up with a hard-on because you need to take a piss? Well, Guimarães are the dick and the League began when they woke up. Meanwhile they went to the bathroom and everything went down the toilet, so no more funny games. They'll probably finish as 5th or 6th as usual.
Citação de: H em 11 de Janeiro de 2015, 02:10
Citação de: Faliro em 10 de Janeiro de 2015, 21:24
Last goal you just ripped them to pieces. ;D
Though they're in 3rd place, they're really not that good. They lost with the reserve team of Sporting like a week ago, using their full main team, for the Cup.
You know when you wake up with a hard-on because you need to take a piss? Well, Guimarães are the dick and the League began when they woke up. Meanwhile they went to the bathroom and everything went down the toilet, so no more funny games. They'll probably finish as 5th or 6th as usual.
They underestimated sporting. A few weeks ago they trashed them.
Citação de: H em 11 de Janeiro de 2015, 02:10
Citação de: Faliro em 10 de Janeiro de 2015, 21:24
Last goal you just ripped them to pieces. ;D
Though they're in 3rd place, they're really not that good. They lost with the reserve team of Sporting like a week ago, using their full main team, for the Cup.
You know when you wake up with a hard-on because you need to take a piss? Well, Guimarães are the dick and the League began when they woke up. Meanwhile they went to the bathroom and everything went down the toilet, so no more funny games. They'll probably finish as 5th or 6th as usual.
If only more journlism was like this. O0
Citação de: Lm27 em 10 de Janeiro de 2015, 23:49
da Luz :drool: :drool:
O0
Btw nice aquisition for Inter. Shaqiri :metal:
Citação de: Lm27 em 11 de Janeiro de 2015, 13:56
Citação de: iKatz em 11 de Janeiro de 2015, 13:34
Citação de: Lm27 em 10 de Janeiro de 2015, 23:49
da Luz :drool: :drool:
O0
Btw nice aquisition for Inter. Shaqiri :metal:
good player :D
http://serbenfiquista.com/forum/english-board/inter-milan/ comment there :)
Citação de: Lm27 em 10 de Janeiro de 2015, 23:49
da Luz :drool: :drool:
Another video from yesterday :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahuz38832bA
How was Samaris today?
Citação de: Faliro em 18 de Janeiro de 2015, 20:13
How was Samaris today?
Amazingggggggggggggggggg
I'm doing a post with photos. Wait a minute. ^-^
Marítimo 0 - 4 SL Benfica
What a game. We don't give a chance. After 15 minutes Gaitán out due to a lesion. Ola John in. Some fear because Ola John is not a regular player. But played very well and even scored the second goal.
Samaris was amazing. Really good. JJ is doing an amazing job with him. Within a while I think we will be crying for him.
Jonas is a hell of a player. No words for him. So fucking good.
Júlio César our new goal keeper is made us forget Oblak. He did a defense from another world. Now Benfica is 719 minutes without conceding a goal.
Luisão, our capitan, as return and made is 440th game equanting the amount of games that Eusébio played. Imortal.
JJ was on fire after the game in the flash interview.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7qFE6mCMAAQPae.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7p867UCMAAtrwE.jpg)
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Rumo ao 34 :slb2: :slb2:
Well done Benfica. :bandeiraslb2: :bandeiraslb2: :bandeiraslb2: :slb2: :slb2: :bandeiraslb2: :bandeiraslb2: :bandeiraslb2:
In january it's allways like this
Yep
Benfica with JJ never lost a game in January. :)
Best game of the season, imo.
Citação de: LMFPC em 19 de Janeiro de 2015, 01:00
Benfica with JJ never lost a game in January. :)
Best game of the season, imo.
Between this one and against Guimarães is hard to choose.
Citação de: Festivus em 19 de Janeiro de 2015, 01:01
Citação de: LMFPC em 19 de Janeiro de 2015, 01:00
Benfica with JJ never lost a game in January. :)
Best game of the season, imo.
Between this one and against Guimarães is hard to choose.
This one, because our rival won the game a day before and because visiting Barreiros is always one of toughest matches of the season.
Yersterday. Unfortunately it seems that he didn't understood very well. ;D ;D
(http://abload.de/img/samaris-e-jesusswfmy.gif)
Add this to famous 'Hulke' interview after that game! :2funny:
Samaris really needs portuguese lessons.
Citação de: Faliro em 19 de Janeiro de 2015, 19:45
Add this to famous 'Hulke' interview after that game! :2funny:
Samaris really needs portuguese lessons.
Portuguese lessons is not enough for understand JJ ....
:rir:
I think that gif is very important to explain why Samaris had so many problems adapting to our tactic. And that can explain some "less good" performances.
Someone said to me he didn't talk english when he arrived and of course no portuguese either so the language barrier was really a problem (and we can see that still is)
He's in Portugal for about 4/5 months now, which i think is still few time to understand new language as portuguese is very hard language (and our coach is not language master...)
I believe his performances will keep getting better (and he's now much better than he was when he arrived) till he completely understood what coach wants of him.
I think he speaks english. At least he is very good friend of Pizzi for example.
He speaks english. And I think Faliro said that he know a lite bit of spanish because is Michel's language.
He speaks English. Most the TV in Greece is English (films, american series etc). Most Greeks speak good English.
He seemed to speak very basic spanish also.
Portuguese.. nothing.
Citação de: Faliro em 20 de Janeiro de 2015, 15:07
He speaks English. Most the TV in Greece is English (films, american series etc). Most Greeks speak good English.
He seemed to speak very basic spanish also.
Portuguese.. nothing.
I'm surprised by this, as most Portuguese, Spanish, French and Italian speak awful English! ;D
Citação de: H em 20 de Janeiro de 2015, 23:02
Citação de: Faliro em 20 de Janeiro de 2015, 15:07
He speaks English. Most the TV in Greece is English (films, american series etc). Most Greeks speak good English.
He seemed to speak very basic spanish also.
Portuguese.. nothing.
I'm surprised by this, as most Portuguese, Spanish, French and Italian speak awful English! ;D
u speak da tru
Citação de: H em 20 de Janeiro de 2015, 23:02
Citação de: Faliro em 20 de Janeiro de 2015, 15:07
He speaks English. Most the TV in Greece is English (films, american series etc). Most Greeks speak good English.
He seemed to speak very basic spanish also.
Portuguese.. nothing.
I'm surprised by this, as most Portuguese, Spanish, French and Italian speak awful English! ;D
The Portuguese are generally better than the Spanish, French and Italians at English. And for the same reason as the Greeks. Small country with a useless language and also with no tradition of dubbing everything. You could argue that the Dutch and Scandinavians are great at English due to their languages being Germanic as well, but the native language of Finland is not even Indo-European and yet they're pretty good at English. Greek is quite different from English, and hell, the overwhelming majority of European languages as well, and they don't have trouble with English either. It has to do with exposure at the end of the day. Per example, Portuguese people learn both English and French at school. French is a lot closer to our language than English is. But how many people here graduate HS speaking French fluently? Not many, since they're not exposed to the language except during class.
And ofc, then there's the idiots who think they can speak Spanish or even Italian fluently just because "it's almost the same". And then all you hear is them speaking Portuguese with a funny accent.
That actually makes sense Festivus, although I always considered dubbing movies to be quite ridiculous, as illiteracy is practically non-existent nowadays (at least on Latin countries). I confirm that Scandinavians and Finnish are particularly good English speakers, but the Dutch... nhé. Both in Netherlands and Flemish part of Belgium, I was surprised to witness that people didn't grasp English that well, especially in Belgium. While some young people in Portugal tend to speak it well, most speak macaronic English and with that dreadful Portuguese accent, only beaten by the Spanish accent, which is absolutely dire.
Now that I think of it, the Greek girl I know actually speaks perfect English, we were bragging a while ago that we belonged to the 8 Group (concerning the IELTS exam), though she has been living here in the UK for a year now, which makes your English drastically improve.
Citação de: H em 20 de Janeiro de 2015, 23:47
That actually makes sense Festivus, although I always considered dubbing movies to be quite ridiculous, as illiteracy is practically non-existent nowadays (at least on Latin countries). I confirm that Scandinavians and Finnish are particularly good English speakers, but the Dutch... nhé. Both in Netherlands and Flemish part of Belgium, I was surprised to witness that people didn't grasp English that well, especially in Belgium. While some young people in Portugal tend to speak it well, most speak macaronic English and with that dreadful Portuguese accent, only beaten by the Spanish accent, which is absolutely dire.
You know, Dutch people have a reputation for speaking English quite well. In fact, a common stereotype about them is "they all speak English". But many Dutch people themselves claim that most of them aren't really that great speakers and that they find Scandinavians to be better English speakers. This isn't exactly easy to gauge, especially when it comes to pure anecdotal evidence. And hell, school grades don't mean much either. But maybe you're onto something there.
I think the worst English speakers I've met were the Italians. Even worse than Spaniards. But it's not like I've met hundreds of them or spent enough time in both countries to get to know people quite well.
And speaking of school grades, even the people with the lowest grades in English class seemed to understand the gist of English songs. And those aren't translated at all. They struggled at communication but not so much at understanding the language verbally or in written-form. I'm currently in university, pursuing a degree related to social sciences, which requires you to read quite a lot, many of the texts being in English. About half of my classmates claim to struggle at English and yet they manage to pass. And I seriously doubt they're checking the dictionary every 7-8 words. I guess they just have a passive knowledge of the language. And, as we all know, language subjects at school always place over emphasis on grammar. And not everyone can get a firm grasp of grammar, not even in their own native language.
EDIT: And I wouldn't worry much about accents. Foreigners are supposed to have them. Some have thicker ones. But as long as you know the rules of the language and can express yourself fine to the point of people understanding you, it doesn't really matter to me if your accent is noticeable or not.
Well maybe I could have been unlucky, the times I was both in the Flemish part of Belgium and Netherlands, but I had some trouble in there sometimes when I needed to get to some places, because people couldn't help much. The worst one was when I got totally hammered on Belgian beer and then lost myself in Ghent. It came to a point where I just told myself: Forget about it, just keep walking until you find a bus stop, somewhere.
I don't worry at all, I just find it amusing sometimes that people can speak the language perfectly, in terms of sentence construction and all, but then have that thick native accent. Take Sofia Vergara for example: I really can't tell if it's just her that doesn't want to learn of if she simply can't do it. ;D
I try to make some sense out of it but I can't. To me, once one has managed to tame the language, it should be easy to get the accent right as well, because you've reached a point when you don't have to bother about which words you need to put next, because it's already an automatic process and therefore the only thing that might put more work to your brain could be "how" you say it.
I'm not a perfect English speaker, far from it, as I still put a lot of my brain work focused on phrase construction, but I can speak with English, American, Australian accent, a bit of Scottish, Irish and have been learning passively Northern Irish accent as well. Even within England, I've been learning a lot from different accents such as London, Manchester, Liverpool, Norwich or York accent, and to me it feels very natural to employ the accent to a word as soon as I learn it, but maybe people have different sensibilities, in terms of language learning. The fact that I've started learning it since I was 5 years old could be an explanation as well, but for example with Russian, some people that I talked with in English (but with which I tried some Russian words every once in a while), told me I had pretty good accent as well and I never had classes, all I learned was from watching the movies or from the classic books that had original words and then translaation at the bottom of the page. ;D
I actually really likes languages, I would probably study and work on that if I didn't like Film even more.
Another thing I learned, after being here for 6 months: The lower you get, geographically speaking, the closest you get to the English we learn at school. I have a friend from Brighton and her accent (or lack of) is the same as the one employed by English teachers in Portugal.
Citação de: H em 21 de Janeiro de 2015, 00:48
I don't worry at all, I just find it amusing sometimes that people can speak the language perfectly, in terms of sentence construction and all, but then have that thick native accent. Take Sofia Vergara for example: I really can't tell if it's just her that doesn't want to learn of if she simply can't do it. ;D
I try to make some sense out of it but I can't. To me, once one has managed to tame the language, it should be easy to get the accent right as well, because you've reached a point when you don't have to bother about which words you need to put next, because it's already an automatic process and therefore the only thing that might put more work to your brain could be "how" you say it.
I'm not a perfect English speaker, far from it, as I still put a lot of my brain work focused on phrase construction, but I can speak with English, American, Australian accent, a bit of Scottish, Irish and have been learning passively Northern Irish accent as well. Even within England, I've been learning a lot from different accents such as London, Manchester, Liverpool, Norwich or York accent, and to me it feels very natural to employ the accent to a word as soon as I learn it, but maybe people have different sensibilities, in terms of language learning. The fact that I've started learning it since I was 5 years old could be an explanation as well, but for example with Russian, some people that I talked with in English (but with which I tried some Russian words every once in a while), told me I had pretty good accent as well and I never had classes, all I learned was from watching the movies or from the classic books that had original words and then translaation at the bottom of the page. ;D
I actually really likes languages, I would probably study and work on that if I didn't like Film even more.
I've always assumed Sofia Vergara's accent in Modern Family to be quite exaggerated for comical purposes. Guess I was wrong, then.
I can't mimic accents unless it's Scrooge McDuck's highly exaggerated and stereotypical Scottish accent in Ducktales. Northern England and Scotland have almost unintelligible accents anyway. Not even people from southern England or the USA can understand them that well. Scouser and thick Scottish accents are the worst.
Citação de: H em 21 de Janeiro de 2015, 00:54
Another thing I learned, after being here for 6 months: The lower you get, geographically speaking, the closest you get to the English we learn at school. I have a friend from Brighton and her accent (or lack of) is the same as the one employed by English teachers in Portugal.
Each language has its own standard "proper" form. In German it's even more complicated since the German we learn at school is the standard one spoken around Hannover, which is very different from German dialects in Switzerland, Austria, Stuttgart and Bavaria.
Northern Irish accent is so funny man. You say it kind of like, "Nôden Eirelan", if you read that as Portuguese. I got a girl in my class that is from there and it is quite amusing to hear her speak, she says she hate it but I love it!
I don't even know anymore what's the proper English form, but that accent from Brighton was the English I heard all of my English teachers throughout the years speak. I can't really describe it, but it's like perfect English, fully understandable. And I do have a lot of trouble sometimes understanding people in here, especially on the phone.
Citação de: H em 21 de Janeiro de 2015, 01:26
Northern Irish accent is so funny man. You say it kind of like, "Nôden Eirelan", if you read that as Portuguese. I got a girl in my class that is from there and it is quite amusing to hear her speak, she says she hate it but I love it!
I don't even know anymore what's the proper English form, but that accent from Brighton was the English I heard all of my English teachers throughout the years speak. I can't really describe it, but it's like perfect English, fully understandable. And I do have a lot of trouble sometimes understanding people in here, especially on the phone.
I guess the standard form of British English is around that area or maybe Oxford. Do you watch British TV often? Because unless it's a show set in a specific region, people will try their best to speak standard British form on the media, tv shows, etc. I'm referring to news anchors, tv pundits and actors, obviously. Not regular folk they interview on the street.
We sold our jewl... Goodbye Bernardo :(
Unfortunately no. I had given up watching TV back in Portugal, now I watch it even less here on the UK, but I get what you mean. O0 I hear it regularly from another girl of my class, that is from there.
Citação de: Covenant em 21 de Janeiro de 2015, 01:46
We sold our jewl... Goodbye Bernardo :(
Today it's a sad day. Fuck this. :'(
Unfortunately not only we sell our best players too fast but we also waste our good future prospects.
Btw, I met one American(he was from Texas) once at the airport and we had a little chat. Then he started to guess where I was from, only saying USA states. He was rather surprised when I said that I was portuguese. He told me he couldn't figure it out by himself, he felt that was "very neutral" and wasn't able to place it.
My two cents. :victory:
And I relate to what Festivus said. I like accents. Sometimes I do the Russian English, it's so fucking badass.
Citação de: HJDK em 21 de Janeiro de 2015, 03:43
And I relate to what Festivus said. I like accents. Sometimes I do the Russian English, it's so fucking badass.
Most can't guess where I'm from just from listening to my voice or even looking at me. People always start naming big Western European countries(UK, France, Germany, etc.) and after telling them "no" for the 3rd or 4th time, they just give up and ask me where I'm from. Most of the time people just go straight to the point and ask me that anyway. As for the language, hearing me speaking portuguese does not seem to clue most people in. But I do get the "you sound Slavic" comment fairly often. And speaking of that, in Tunisia, some dude at the hotel kept asking me and my family where we were form. And he first thought we were Bulgarian and then Yugoslavian.
I actually didn't mention anything about liking accents, but yes, I do like some better than others. That being said, I can't think of a particular accent I prefer over the rest.
Citação de: Festivus em 20 de Janeiro de 2015, 23:57
And I wouldn't worry much about accents. Foreigners are supposed to have them. Some have thicker ones. But as long as you know the rules of the language and can express yourself fine to the point of people understanding you, it doesn't really matter to me if your accent is noticeable or not.
Well, I agree with this.
That's because you're a goddamn Yankee, HJDK. Yee-haw, God bless 'Murica!
People not having a clue where I'm from, happened loads of times as well. Mostly they ask how many years I've been living in here and then I say "4 or 5 months" and they can't believe it.
English with Russian accent is pretty badass indeed. The thing is that Russian as a language in terms of structure, appears to be rather 'rude', but it's the way you say the words that make it an "immediate order", or a "kind request", etc. Therefore when they don't know English that well, it makes them sound very impolite and rough because they use Russain phrase structure in English! ;D
Yea, in Greece they dub nothing. Everything is subtitled. Also during most of the 80-90s Greeks watched more MTV than any other EU nation. They are obsessed with pop culture and trash TV. Greeks in general have sensational English although they do often form sentences as if they were in Greek.
For example.
''For why you not take the Ford Focus today? It is cloudy outside vre malaka''
Everything is 'for why...' :2funny: This is how hilarious the Greek accent is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOShWeH_xQg
As for the most unattractive accents in English... Bulgarian.. Turkish.. Northern Irish..
Russian does indeed sound bad-ass, Polish sounds poor, German intense and French sexy. Italian english just sounds damaged.. :2funny: However 2nd generation Italian American/wise guy New Jersey.. sounds pretty cool.
Citação de: Covenant em 21 de Janeiro de 2015, 01:46
We sold our jewl... Goodbye Bernardo :(
15 million Euros!! :crazy2:
Must be special.
Citação de: Faliro em 22 de Janeiro de 2015, 00:14
Citação de: Covenant em 21 de Janeiro de 2015, 01:46
We sold our jewl... Goodbye Bernardo :(
15 million Euros!! :crazy2:
Must be special.
There are things that Money can't buy. :cry2:
He is doing great at Mónaco, in a few years can be sold for 30M easily.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=AEYdPT2RgfQ
But what make me angry is the feeling that Benfica drop one of us. He is Benfica. Since ever...
http://cdn.controlinveste.pt/storage/OJ/2014/big/ng3501976.jpg
http://multimedia.iol.pt/backoffice/oratvi/multimedia/imagem/id/14002050/650
Our coach this night said: "the academy is for financial purposes". So our kids will never play for Benfica...
Faliro, which greek players are references in the Olympiakos history?
How you mean LMFPC? Like super famous?
Citação de: Faliro em 22 de Janeiro de 2015, 23:53
How you mean LMFPC? Like super famous?
He's asking about your legends, basically.
Ah right, ok.
Well believe it or not, Gottschalk has an encyclopedic knowledge of Olympiacos but I will try and compete with him. :2funny:
It was the Andrianopoulos brothers, who significantly raised the reputation of the club and brought it to its current glory. Members of a prosperous family, they made the name of Olympiacos known over Greece. Yiannis, Dinos, Giorgos and Vassilis were the first to play. The youngest of five, Leonidas Andrianopoulos made his appearance later on and played for a long time (1927–1935). The club's offensive line, made up of the five brothers, soon became legendary.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DqJFwxyQDMM/UZFkPKwDpcI/AAAAAAAAQQo/ZvyM1UfAD-U/s1600/5+%CE%B1%CE%BD%CE%B4%CF%81%CE%B9%CE%B1%CE%BD%CF%8C%CF%80%CE%BF%CF%85%CE%BB%CE%BF%CE%B9.JPG)
As you can see here, it soon became obvious our players (Giorgios Andrianopoulos) had significantly bigger penises than Panathinaikos players...
(http://www.olympiacos.org/sites/default/files/imagecache/patttern2_photo7/%20%CE%9C%CE%95%CE%A3%CE%A3%CE%91%CE%A1%CE%97%CE%A3%20%CE%BA%CE%B1%CE%B9%20%CE%93%CE%99%CE%A9%CE%A1%CE%93%CE%9F%CE%A3%20%CE%91%CE%9D%CE%94%CE%A1%CE%99%CE%91%CE%9D%CE%9F%CE%A0%CE%9F%CE%A5%CE%9B%CE%9F%CE%A3.JPG)
Other legends include Nikos Anastopoulos - scored lots goals:
(http://rymimg.com/lk/l/w/996241a9230d6e4113485304cc272e6b/3573042.jpg)
Giorgos Sideris who scored even more 227 goals. An inside-right forward that no-one or nothing could stand in his way (his nickname was "the Bulldozer"). Very quick with the ball on his feet and a player that had the instinct and charisma to score:
(http://wiki.phantis.com/images/4/49/Giorgos-Sideris.jpg)
More recent legend is Giovanni - much much adored by all Olympiacos fans:
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/Giovanni_Silva_de_Oliveira.jpg/406px-Giovanni_Silva_de_Oliveira.jpg)
Predrag Đorđević
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Predrag_%C4%90or%C4%91evi%C4%87%2C_Chelsea_v_Olympiakos_match_-_20080305.jpg)
And players from your academy who became references for the club?
Fetfatzidis.. ;D Eleftheropoulos...
Seriously though, I am not sure on this one.
A rough impression of the club, maybe some Gavroi will not like me saying this... is that teams like AEK, Iraklis and PAO built many many players from their famous youth systems where as Olympiacos - usually with a shipping magnate in charge.... would just buy all the best ones...
However now most our Greeks are from the OSFP acadamies O0
Citação de: Faliro em 23 de Janeiro de 2015, 02:46
Fetfatzidis.. ;D Eleftheropoulos...
Seriously though, I am not sure on this one.
A rough impression of the club, maybe some Gavroi will not like me saying this... is that teams like AEK, Iraklis and PAO built many many players from their famous youth systems where as Olympiacos - usually with a shipping magnate in charge.... would just buy all the best ones...
However now most our Greeks are from the OSFP acadamies O0
The keeper is a good exemple.
How do you would feel if he was sold on the first year of senior career?
Well we did do that with Kyriakos Papadopoulos. He was better then most CBs in Greece at 17 and he was treated like shit than sold.
Citação de: Faliro em 23 de Janeiro de 2015, 12:53
Well we did do that with Kyriakos Papadopoulos. He was better than most CBs in Greece at 17 and he was treated like shit than sold.
That's what we did with Bernardo. It's sad. :cry2:
Very common in many clubs... this is a money business... :bah2:
Today porto lost with Marítimo, the team that we played against last week. If we won tomorrow we will have a vantage of 9 points.
So much pressure right now.
::) ::) ::) ::) ::)
And Pelkas scored! :2funny:
(http://inpaok.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/PELKAS-e1421702137522-615x400.jpg)
He have some goals already. Not a bad player, but not yet a starter.
He would be rotting in Greece if he stayed..
Biggest game of the season tommorow.
Samaris to be the first Greek to win the Primeira Liga since Fyssas in 2005.
Our manager seems very pleased with him. His performances are getting better and better.
We lost. :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
I won't be seen around here for sometime. I have to heal myself.
We're still 1st, anyway.
Citação de: LMFPC em 26 de Janeiro de 2015, 01:19
Biggest game of the season tommorow.
And we shitted in the pants.
So typical of JJ's.
Unfortunate result but still top.
Everything happened to us this night. After the missed penalty, The team was always nervous.
Citação de: Faliro em 27 de Janeiro de 2015, 00:44
Unfortunate result but still top.
People are pissed because a 9 points lead with 15 games to play would be historic in the last decades.
The 6 point advantage we have instead, we've had that before and we still lost. To Vitor Pereira, actually.
And in two weeks time we face Sporting, so people are afraid Porto will cut the lead to 3 points and heal their wounds.
Basically, this is Liga Portuguesa. It's so rare to see Benfica and Porto losing points that everytime it happens there's a huge shitstorm and supposed changes in momentum between sides. Now this forum apparently believes Porto are stronger, though two days ago they were shit and were at the exact same distance.
It's a rollercoaster in the supporters minds everytime anything happens. ;D No result is taken lightly.
I know the atmosphere well - Michel got sacked this month because he only beat Platanias 2-1.... instaed of 4-0...
I saw a bit of the game today. Still shocked to see Samaris playing in front of the CBs..he can help with the attack far better the higher up he is.. but if that is his role, that is his role..
No, it's not like that.
In Olympiacos it's the habit of winning that made the supporters arrogant and made winning not satisfying enough.
In Benfica it's actually the opposite, it's the fear of losing. Only 4 titles in 20 years against 13 from Porto, it takes a toll. We are starting to turn it around but any stone in the way feels like it can sink the ship.
Believe me, 99% of Benfica supporters would take boring, boring, boring 1-0 wins until the end of the championship. ;D
Citação de: Lycaon em 27 de Janeiro de 2015, 01:03
No, it's not like that.
In Olympiacos it's the habit of winning that made the supporters arrogant and made winning not satisfying enough.
In Benfica it's actually the opposite, it's the fear of losing. Only 4 titles in 20 years against 13 from Porto, it takes a toll. We are starting to turn it around but any stone in the way feels like it can sink the ship.
Believe me, 99% of Benfica supporters would take boring, boring, boring 1-0 wins until the end of the championship. ;D
Yet, our fans wanted Trapattoni gone for playing boring football.
Citação de: Lycaon em 27 de Janeiro de 2015, 01:03
No, it's not like that.
In Olympiacos it's the habit of winning that made the supporters arrogant and made winning not satisfying enough.
In Benfica it's actually the opposite, it's the fear of losing. Only 4 titles in 20 years against 13 from Porto, it takes a toll. We are starting to turn it around but any stone in the way feels like it can sink the ship.
Believe me, 99% of Benfica supporters would take boring, boring, boring 1-0 wins until the end of the championship. ;D
Well in that case, it is very different true. The Gavroi start booing their own team after 3 or 4 back passes in the league... In European competition, they are much more tolerant..
Yes, the same thing that Faliro describes runs in our blood too.
But it's not the dominant feeling at all. And that situation with Trapattoni isn't the same as the situation in Greece.
The Benfica fans that wanted Trap out felt like it was an atypical season and Benfica would never win a title again playing like that. It's legitimate. I'm sure if it was a guaranteed title, like Jardim had, Benfica fans wouldn't reject him for being too boring... because they were 10 years without a title.
Lineup and formation?
Citação de: Faliro em 31 de Janeiro de 2015, 16:41
Lineup and formation?
GK Júlio César
LB Eliseu
CB Luisão
CB Jardel
RB Maxi Pereira
DM Samaris
CM Pizzi
RW Salvio
LW Ola John
FW Jonas
FW Lima
Typical Jesus 4-4-2, a lot of emphasis on the wingers.
Good game. :)
Do you happen to have any goalkeeper you don't need Faliro? ;D
Yea you can have Balázs Megyeri. ::)
Citação de: Faliro em 31 de Janeiro de 2015, 20:07
Yea you can have Balázs Megyeri. ::)
What you think about him? Before Roberto, he had a run as starter.
When he first came, he was a sensation. Truly impressive.
Then he got relegated to the bench simply because we had more famous/esperienced keepers come in and take his spot. From that point on, whenever he played for us, he looked terrible imo.
Lack of confidence
SL Benfica 3 - 0 Boavista
After last monday, another good game.
Maxi Pereira was on fire. One assist and one goal. He is in an excellent form. Gotta love him. ^-^
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Next game will be against Sporting. And Júlio César injured himself today. We have to put our faith in Artur. :-X
Big game today.
50k sell out?
Citação de: Faliro em 08 de Fevereiro de 2015, 15:31
50k sell out?
Yes. You have no ideia how rare this is for Sporting.
The only time they were so close to have 100% of the seats taken was in the inauguration, 10 years ago. :rir:
Don't miss the game Faliro!
Streaming it now/ O0
Brutal 45 minutes. Not much quality either team.
Really dislike the way JJ builds his team.
Citação de: Faliro em 08 de Fevereiro de 2015, 20:50
Brutal 45 minutes. Not much quality either team.
Really dislike the way JJ builds his team.
Fearful.
Weak game so far.
Shitty 45min by Benfica. Lost a lot of balls in the beginning (poor decision making), Sporting managed to impose, and even create some danger, so players have lost confidence, and become fearful. Very also because of the starting eleven and the state of the coach on the bench... :disgust:
Let's see if there will be substitutions.
I think Sporting deserved their goal. They were more ambitious for most the game.
However Benfica recovered very well for the goal at the death. The Sporting fans must be devastated! :2funny:
JJ builds a very flat and rigid team. Little invention, very static. Quite unpleasant to watch.
Citação de: Faliro em 08 de Fevereiro de 2015, 21:57
I think Sporting deserved their goal. They were more ambitious for most the game.
However Benfica recovered very well for the goal at the death. The Sporting fans must be devastated! :2funny:
JJ builds a very flat and rigid team. Little invention, very static. Quite unpleasant to watch.
Not in every game,but this seems to be our new approach to the big games away from home. Nothing against it,since he used to be criticised for playing too open in these occasions.
We could've done better offensively but we missed Nico Gaitan,who is our best and most creative player
Sporting deserved to win. Were superior. Benfica seemed a small team. Ridiculous. Was the same in Dragão. People were happy and said that Benfica played well. Now, everyone is criticizing. What changed?
JJ defensively is TOP. Offensively he has quality (positional) but it's all very rushed, without patience. And then, he is fearful against Porto and now Sporting too. Changes the team, and plays for the error. Horrible. Today was horrible.
Thing i don't understand is how Benfica lineup when they have the ball.
When you had the ball today, I would assume, you would push players forward. However what I saw was half the team still in defensive positions when you were attacking. The CBs sitting far too deep and Samaris and the other DM covering them just in case??
They deserved to win fuck all. Playing at home,needing to win yes or yes,against a team without 2 of the most important players and didn´t create anything.
For us is a good result,given the circumstances
This is not at all how Jesus builds our team Faliro. Quite the opposite.
I dislike the guy but even I can recognize that in this 6 years he were more than once one of the most attractive sides in world football.
What happened?
Benfica fears Porto.
Benfica went to Porto this year playing this horrible football with everyone at the back and we somehow got away with a 0-2 win.
So Jesus thought he would do the same today.
I completely disagree. We could go to Sporting and come back with a win, we are much better than them. But well, this could've went way worse than it did.
This is the best kind of draw we could get with the moral boost it gives.
Citação de: Benfiquista_de_1ª em 08 de Fevereiro de 2015, 22:20
They deserved to win fuck all. Playing at home,needing to win yes or yes,against a team without 2 of the most important players and didn´t create anything.
For us is a good result,given the circumstances
They deserved to win because they were superior, and they were the only team that really wanted the 3 points.
"For us is a good result, given the circumstances"
What do u mean, given the circumstances?
Citação de: PsychoFan em 08 de Fevereiro de 2015, 23:00
Citação de: Benfiquista_de_1ª em 08 de Fevereiro de 2015, 22:20
They deserved to win fuck all. Playing at home,needing to win yes or yes,against a team without 2 of the most important players and didn´t create anything.
For us is a good result,given the circumstances
They deserved to win because they were superior, and they were the only team that really wanted the 3 points.
"For us is a good result, given the circumstances"
What do u mean, given the circumstances?
Were superior? Having more of the ball doesn't mean superiority. We completely nullified them and only conceded due to our own mistake.
Was a good result because we were playing one of the thoughest away fixtures in the league,without two of our best players,with other important players in bad form (like Salvio) and scored a goal in the last minute
Citação de: Benfiquista_de_1ª em 08 de Fevereiro de 2015, 23:07
Citação de: PsychoFan em 08 de Fevereiro de 2015, 23:00
Citação de: Benfiquista_de_1ª em 08 de Fevereiro de 2015, 22:20
They deserved to win fuck all. Playing at home,needing to win yes or yes,against a team without 2 of the most important players and didn´t create anything.
For us is a good result,given the circumstances
They deserved to win because they were superior, and they were the only team that really wanted the 3 points.
"For us is a good result, given the circumstances"
What do u mean, given the circumstances?
Were superior? Having more of the ball doesn't mean superiority. We completely nullified them and only conceded due to our own mistake.
Was a good result because we were playing one of the thoughest away fixtures in the league,without two of our best players,with other important players in bad form (like Salvio) and scored a goal in the last minute
They were superior because they created 1 goal opportunity, and Benfica 0. They had more ball, more shots, attacks. What do u want more?
Drawing against a inferior team, can't be a good result. The absences of Nico and Julio César don't justify a draw is a good result. If Benfica had gone there to impose his game, with the usual 11 (Ola John-Nico; Artur-JC), the probability of victory would increase dramatically. But the coach chose to go there and play like a small team, as he did on Dragão. That's what pisses me off, the way Benfica played, not really the result, I don't give a fuck about that (yeah really).
They created two goalscoring chances and scored 1,exactly like us. More ball,more shots,exactly the same chances and goals. They wanted to attack,we wanted to defend and so seems clear to me who was the team that executed the best its own game plan.
Two matches away from home against title rivals,4 points. That's a good score. We played like we had to,given all the problems we've had this season.Had we played like this is the Champions League and we still would be in Europe
Citação de: Benfiquista_de_1ª em 08 de Fevereiro de 2015, 23:40
They created two goalscoring chances and scored 1,exactly like us. More ball,more shots,exactly the same chances and goals. They wanted to attack,we wanted to defend and so seems clear to me who was the team that executed the best its own game plan.
Two matches away from home against title rivals,4 points. That's a good score. We played like we had to,given all the problems we've had this season.Had we played like this is the Champions League and we still would be in Europe
The way I count. It was like that. 1 for Sporting (http://videos.sapo.pt/RZli6Fe9vzVUoBTF677z). 0 for Benfica.
I agree on the Champions League.
Jesus wanted a drew, I believe.
Citação de: PsychoFan em 08 de Fevereiro de 2015, 23:49
Citação de: Benfiquista_de_1ª em 08 de Fevereiro de 2015, 23:40
They created two goalscoring chances and scored 1,exactly like us. More ball,more shots,exactly the same chances and goals. They wanted to attack,we wanted to defend and so seems clear to me who was the team that executed the best its own game plan.
Two matches away from home against title rivals,4 points. That's a good score. We played like we had to,given all the problems we've had this season.Had we played like this is the Champions League and we still would be in Europe
The way I count. It was like that. 1 for Sporting (http://videos.sapo.pt/RZli6Fe9vzVUoBTF677z). 0 for Benfica.
I agree on the Champions League.
We had one with Jonas 1vs1 with the gk
Citação de: Benfiquista_de_1ª em 09 de Fevereiro de 2015, 01:54
Citação de: PsychoFan em 08 de Fevereiro de 2015, 23:49
Citação de: Benfiquista_de_1ª em 08 de Fevereiro de 2015, 23:40
They created two goalscoring chances and scored 1,exactly like us. More ball,more shots,exactly the same chances and goals. They wanted to attack,we wanted to defend and so seems clear to me who was the team that executed the best its own game plan.
Two matches away from home against title rivals,4 points. That's a good score. We played like we had to,given all the problems we've had this season.Had we played like this is the Champions League and we still would be in Europe
The way I count. It was like that. 1 for Sporting (http://videos.sapo.pt/RZli6Fe9vzVUoBTF677z). 0 for Benfica.
I agree on the Champions League.
We had one with Jonas 1vs1 with the gk
The one that he passes to Lima? That's not a goal opportunity. C'mon. It could be, but wasn't.
Citação de: PsychoFan em 09 de Fevereiro de 2015, 02:23
Citação de: Benfiquista_de_1ª em 09 de Fevereiro de 2015, 01:54
Citação de: PsychoFan em 08 de Fevereiro de 2015, 23:49
Citação de: Benfiquista_de_1ª em 08 de Fevereiro de 2015, 23:40
They created two goalscoring chances and scored 1,exactly like us. More ball,more shots,exactly the same chances and goals. They wanted to attack,we wanted to defend and so seems clear to me who was the team that executed the best its own game plan.
Two matches away from home against title rivals,4 points. That's a good score. We played like we had to,given all the problems we've had this season.Had we played like this is the Champions League and we still would be in Europe
The way I count. It was like that. 1 for Sporting (http://videos.sapo.pt/RZli6Fe9vzVUoBTF677z). 0 for Benfica.
I agree on the Champions League.
We had one with Jonas 1vs1 with the gk
The one that he passes to Lima? That's not a goal opportunity. C'mon. It could be, but wasn't.
It´s as good an opportunity as a header almost from outside the box
Citação de: Benfiquista_de_1ª em 09 de Fevereiro de 2015, 02:30
Citação de: PsychoFan em 09 de Fevereiro de 2015, 02:23
Citação de: Benfiquista_de_1ª em 09 de Fevereiro de 2015, 01:54
Citação de: PsychoFan em 08 de Fevereiro de 2015, 23:49
Citação de: Benfiquista_de_1ª em 08 de Fevereiro de 2015, 23:40
They created two goalscoring chances and scored 1,exactly like us. More ball,more shots,exactly the same chances and goals. They wanted to attack,we wanted to defend and so seems clear to me who was the team that executed the best its own game plan.
Two matches away from home against title rivals,4 points. That's a good score. We played like we had to,given all the problems we've had this season.Had we played like this is the Champions League and we still would be in Europe
The way I count. It was like that. 1 for Sporting (http://videos.sapo.pt/RZli6Fe9vzVUoBTF677z). 0 for Benfica.
I agree on the Champions League.
We had one with Jonas 1vs1 with the gk
The one that he passes to Lima? That's not a goal opportunity. C'mon. It could be, but wasn't.
It´s as good an opportunity as a header almost from outside the box
You're right.
Citação de: PsychoFan em 08 de Fevereiro de 2015, 22:14
Sporting deserved to win. Were superior. Benfica seemed a small team. Ridiculous. Was the same in Dragão. People were happy and said that Benfica played well. Now, everyone is criticizing. What changed?
JJ defensively is TOP. Offensively he has quality (positional) but it's all very rushed, without patience. And then, he is fearful against Porto and now Sporting too. Changes the team, and plays for the error. Horrible. Today was horrible.
The funny thing is, defending used to be the worst thing about Jesus' teams.
How much are tickets for tonight's game?
€7.5 for club member, 11 for non member.
Is this the main cup or the less important cup?
Citação de: Faliro em 11 de Fevereiro de 2015, 17:05
Is this the main cup or the less important cup?
The latter.
Will the more important cup be the same price?
Citação de: Faliro em 11 de Fevereiro de 2015, 17:17
Will the more important cup be the same price?
For us there's no more Portuguese Cup.
Only League Cup which we're in the final. 3-0 against Vitoria Setubal. MVP Gonçalo Guedes (a kid from our Youth Academy). :)
Citação de: Faliro em 11 de Fevereiro de 2015, 17:17
Will the more important cup be the same price?
It depends. Against a small team yes, it should be cheap.
There's very little interest, especially if it is during the week like tonight. Benfica fans in weekend matches are from all over the country (we even have a special train for them, with several different routes). And even those who are from the Great Lisbon area, it's not that easy to get to the stadium. Weeknight matches cut the attendance in something like 50%.
Even in European nights we struggle to get the same attendances that we have in the League.
Against Vitória Guimarães/Braga/etc they would push a little bit more.
Against Sporting or Porto definitely a lot more.
But overall our prices are cheap. The problem, of course, is the economic context: only 500€ minimum wage, massive unemployment rate.
Gonçalo Guedes have the same problem that Ninis and others have in Greece: Opportunites. He (and Lisandro Lopez) was the MVP and Jesus put him out after 60 minutes and Ola John played 90 minutes...
Well at least you have a B team he can play each week in right?
Yes, they play on the second division. But we have so many good players that are stalled there.
We do not loan them to 1º division because "we might need them" even though we know that's complete bullshit, our manager gives them 0 chances. Some of them are sold like Bernardo Silva for 15M to Mónaco without even playing for us. André Gomes, who is shining in Valência, only played when there was absolutely nobody else to play.
Our manager is really prejudiced.
It is a sad situation when this happens. You are simply producing more good players than you have room for... almost.. a victim of your own success at youth level..
We are the runner ups of the first edition of the UEFA Youth League. This needs to mean something.
This year looks good too.. Apparently Olympiakos have a very strong side this year also, Vergos scoring a lot of goals..
(http://i.imgur.com/rndaoMX.png?1)
I bet Ludogorets kids had a blast. So much fun.. :2funny:
They were probably drafted from their youth volleyball team.. :2funny:
For you Faliro.... :rir:
Citação de: LFCM em 12 de Fevereiro de 2015, 15:31
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B9psyKbIMAEcIAc.jpg)
:metal: :metal: :metal:
:2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
You inspired me! Just made one too! :drool: :drool: :drool:
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7433/16510629532_aa55e62770_c.jpg)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02epRQ0RZeg
"Benfica is the club" :smitten:
Citação de: Maxi_14 em 13 de Fevereiro de 2015, 22:16
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02epRQ0RZeg
"Benfica is the club" :smitten:
Holy fuck :cry2:
Always liked Arséne. Guess now I know why!
Arsenal plays in Red because of the all mighty Nottingham Forest!
I always liked Arsenal. :whistle2:
Faliro, please give your sincere opinion. What do you think of Michel for coaching Benfica? (hypothetically) :)
You don't need to ask,Faliro loves Michel ;D
I got an even better one: Faliro what do you think of Jorge Jesus coaching Oly? :smokin:
Citação de: Maxi_14 em 13 de Fevereiro de 2015, 22:50
Faliro, please give your sincere opinion. What do you think of Michel for coaching Benfica? (hypothetically) :)
Sincerely (as Benfiquista has alluded to), I think Michel is a super coach. He plays the style of football I like. Attack. But not reckless. His motivation is to outscore the opponent. When the opponent is superior, he still attempts to find a way to win rather than draw. For me is the best coach to ever coach in Greece and Marinakis killed the goose that laid the golden eggs when he sacked him.
Now even though now I am quite connected to Benfica and like this club a lot, I cannot speak for the fans. However, if I lived in Lisboa and watched every game of Benfica - I would suffer watching JJ teams like I did last week and a few other times. However with Michel, you know he will not fear any team and you know he knows his football extremely well - researches the opponents in depth like a good coach should.
On another note, Michel is a great ambassador for any club that takes him on. Football royalty and full of charm. He looks very decadent, where as JJ reminds me a bit of a Hungarian accountant I knew in Barcelona, a face like he is always sucking on a lemon.
Citação de: H em 14 de Fevereiro de 2015, 00:28
I got an even better one: Faliro what do you think of Jorge Jesus coaching Oly? :smokin:
Well personally I do not like his formations so much. However, I acknowledge they have got you to a few finals. However his budget at Olympiacos would be nothing compared Benfica so he would not have Gaitan to get him out of jail in games... To be honest, I think he would he find it hard and also, he is coming from bigger club to a smaller club... He may not ever want such a job no matter how much money is thrown at him.
Olympiakos fans would probably adore Jesus at first. His first season at a new club is always his best one. And I'm sure he'd play the offensive football the fans want to see and win several games 4-0 and 5-0.
Not to mention his craziness, his vanity and, last but not least, his poor grammar.
If he plays attacking.. he will have no trouble at Olympiacos.. even if we get raped in Europe.
What the fans will tolerate is a 1-1 with Atromitos for example. Many of the expectations of Olympiacos fans are unreasonable to be honest. Sometimes these smaller clubs are just hard to beat, no matter who you have in the team..
Olympiakos won't impress in Europe if they keep selling their best players too early(January, etc.). Then again, the league the club is in doesn't favor the club at all. Especially it being the league of a country that has a terrible reputation financially wise at the moment. Euro 2004's victory didn't improve Greek football at all, it seems.
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Fevereiro de 2015, 14:18
Olympiakos won't impress in Europe if they keep selling their best players too early(January, etc.). Then again, the league the club is in doesn't favor the club at all. Especially it being the league of a country that has a terrible reputation financially wise at the moment. Euro 2004's victory didn't improve Greek football at all, it seems.
Agree. Euro 2004 didn't improve Greek football at all. The opposite in some ways, anyone associated with that victory was protected and promoted - even the incompetent ones. All the money was stolen and went into plumbing in new swimming pools at the villas of the EPO top brass. Nothing was improved in Greece, in fact, we managed to go into reverse.
For me Euro 2004 was more about the flaws of the other teams than the genius of Greece. Greece simply built a very powerful wall and no one could knock it down. There was no master plan or culture of footballing analysis behind it. Just determination and strict obedience. Greece has always managed to produce very good CBs, so it fitted our tactics perfectly.
As for Olympiacos, we can only improve as much as the league allows. Add to that, the self sabotage of selling our best players every January and sacking the best coach we ever had.. we don't deserve much. Sometimes I think it would be fun if Olympiacos was in the Portuguese league. However as it is.. we are stuck in a shit league with poor teams and even worse stadiums. Greeks however, when it comes to football, are quite smart. They can build quite effective teams on tiny budgets that can sneak their way in the Europe cup for example. It is the bigger teams that are run badly, PAOK, AEK (previous owners), PAO, Aris, Larissa etc.. These teams self sabotage far more than Olympiakos. However, when they do it, it is always Olympiacos's fault apparently... :confused:
Not taking credit away from Greece's Euro 2004 run, the truth is most sides underestimated you. Funnily enough, Russia beat you in the group stage game. Dunno how since I was obviously busy watching Portugal vs. Spain at the time. And then there's always the luck of the winners, which is part of the game. Nedved didn't play the semi-final against you, Scolari fucked up on the first game leaving Deco on the bench, Ricardo fucked up in the final, etc.
Russia had a good team actually. We only managed to get a goal back in that game via a sensational floated pass by the great Tsiartas. Still my favorite Greek player of all time.
You would think teams like the Czech republic would have studied that game.. Nedved played 40 minutes against us before he kicked Katsouranis in the backside and turned his knee.. ::)
I think Scolari simply didn't have the answers against Greece. If I were him I would played every attacking player I had against Greece..
Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Fevereiro de 2015, 14:58
Russia had a good team actually. We only managed to get a goal back in that game via a sensational floated pass by the great Tsiartas. Still my favorite Greek player of all time.
You would think teams like the Czech republic would have studied that game.. Nedved played 40 minutes against us before he kicked Katsouranis in the backside and turned his knee.. ::)
I think Scolari simply didn't have the answers against Greece. If I were him I would played every attacking player I had against Greece..
Oh right, he did. He got carded and thus couldn't play in the final if his team had won. He had suffered the same fate in the 20/02 CL semi-final. Unlucky player, Pavel Nedved. I really liked him and that Czech team. I thought they were gonna win the tournament and so did many others.
I think 99% of Czechs and probably most the planet thought the Czechs were going to win that game. Nedved really was a talent. Super super player.
Petr Čech, Zdeněk Grygera, Marek Jankulovski, Karel Poborský, Jan Koller, Tomáš Rosický, Pavel Nedvěd, Milan Baroš, Tomáš Ujfaluši.
And the likes of Plašil, Heinz, Hübschman and Šmicer on the bench.
Truly a dream team, best football by far.
A dream team indeed. All their players talented and gracing the best teams in Europe every week. But they weren't ready for this...
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In 2004 even Milan Baros played well.
Baros, Nedved , Cech, Koller, Poborsky, Rosicky... Great team. The final, with all the respect, should be Czech vs Portugal.
Best games in Euro 2004: Portugal vs England and Czech vs Netherlands.
How is pelkas playing?Watched about 20 mins of the first half, didn't even notice him! :2funny:
Goals:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOQY8BrpGEI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-ElBgqkNlo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppOW3VSwFm8
SL Benfica 3 - 0 Vitória de Setúbal
:slb2: :slb2: :slb2:
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Good game today.
Samaris is suspended for the next away game. 9 yellows on the League.
Faliro, for me, Pelkas has been the best player of Setúbal team. Good player.
Interesting.. he seems to be doing well.
If only more Greek players got raised in the portuguese league.. we would have such a better national team..
Faliro, Samaris like you predicted, is rapidly turning into a fan favourite after a shaky start. I got to be honest, to me he is already one of the players in the squad that I really like to watch playing. His performances as Centre (maybe actually Defensive?) Midfielder are getting better by the day, always with good rhythm, stealing balls, opening spaces for players ahead of him on the pitch and with precise and intelligent cacetada. Don't know how he played today though, as I was working, but judging from the comments on his thread here on the Forum, I'd say he did good as usual on his last games.
Took a while to get the gears going, but once mingled with the whole team and the tactics from JJ, he improved greatly and if all goes well, will become the boss of the midfield in a very near Future.
Very happy for Benfica. :smokin: I get sad when I watch him at Benfica sometimes because I know there is goals in this guy and he does not even go forward for corners,... but he is becoming something very good at DM, so who cares?
If he had gone earlier in his career to Benfica he would have perhaps adapted faster - around the time we took him from Panionios.
There are so many players I see in Greece... they peak.. the talent is there, the speed is there.. goals, passing... in European competition and Greece.. everything is there.. then the rot sets in... pick up bad habits from clueless coaches.. fans turn on them.. players can't read what they are trying to do.. or they get sold to some relegation Italian side... they end up returning to Greece at 27, broken, ruined.. it's sad.
Portugal has the infrastructure to blossom talent imo. Some of the sales out of Portugal are simply spectacular.
I can name around 5-8 Greek younger players who if they went to Portugal now... could become something valuable - even for the Portuguese national team - Greece doesn't give a shit what happens to them.. but alas.. they will disintegrate.. bad agents.. bad culture.. as the saying goes..
Greeks always eat their own children..
Seems that was the same Andres Simoes AEK were after last month. :2funny:
Shit performance. Was fuming at half time. Complete lack of intent.
Most players should't get paid after this miserable performance
Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Fevereiro de 2015, 20:57
Seems that was the same Andres Simoes AEK were after last month. :2funny:
Did you watch the game, Faliro? What did you think of the officiating? And be honest.
Missed the game.
Was the ref a joke?
Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Fevereiro de 2015, 22:42
Missed the game.
Was the ref a joke?
Our detractors complain about a corner that shouldn't have been awarded and also a Moreirense player being sent off for simply arguing with the referee.
Moreirense 1 - 3 SL Benfica
If we want to be champions we have to win games like these one, without any good football.
We missed Samaris. Good signal.
Ola John was, once again, awful. We need Gaitan so badly.
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^^ Gaitan is very important to Benfica imo. The team is far more potent with him.
Citação de: Festivus em 21 de Fevereiro de 2015, 22:46
Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Fevereiro de 2015, 22:42
Missed the game.
Was the ref a joke?
Our detractors complain about a corner that shouldn't have been awarded and also a Moreirense player being sent off for simply arguing with the referee.
Been seeing a lot of that in Greece this season. One a few weeks ago that i reported here. The player in question called the ref a malaka... ::)
Regarding the sending off,Moreirense's players and coach say that they don't know what André Simões said to the referee. To me that´s enough to know that he said something that was worthy of the red card
Thing is..players are constantly saying 'fuck off' to the ref..
Now these guys are starting to see yellows for this.
What could have Andre said that worth a red? 'fuck your mother in both holes you stupid ref' ??
Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Fevereiro de 2015, 23:55
Thing is..players are constantly saying 'fuck off' to the ref..
Now these guys are starting to see yellows for this.
What could have Andre said that worth a red? 'fuck your mother in both holes you stupid ref' ??
The ref prolly wrote that down on his report. Well, not verbatim... but something like "gratuitous insults to the ref".
Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Fevereiro de 2015, 23:55
Thing is..players are constantly saying 'fuck off' to the ref..
Now these guys are starting to see yellows for this.
What could have Andre said that worth a red? 'fuck your mother in both holes you stupid ref' ??
Have no ideia what he said,but the ref reacted instantly and Andre almost didn´t argue
Refs sometimes are mad. The Greek ref who sent of the player I was talking about last month reacted instantly with a card having just yellow carded the same player seconds before. I was thinking.. wow, for a Greek to get that angry, must have been a massive insult...my mind was thinking.. what could he have said? Turns out it was just 'malaka.' :coolsmiley:
Perhaps UEFA have sent out a memo to all the refs to start enforcing and punishing 'dissent.'
Citação de: Faliro em 22 de Fevereiro de 2015, 00:09
Refs sometimes are mad. The Greek ref who sent of the player I was talking about last month reacted instantly with a card having just yellow carded the same player seconds before. I was thinking.. wow, for a Greek to get that angry, must have been a massive insult...my mind was thinking.. what could he have said? Turns out it was just 'malaka.' :coolsmiley:
Perhaps UEFA have sent out a memo to all the refs to start enforcing and punishing 'dissent.'
Maybe,just like that new "rule" of showing a yellow card to players who ask for a yellow card to other players.
In any case,I think refs should have a bit more sense in this situations and understand that sometimes players have this reactions in the heat of the moment. A different thing is when they go overboard with their reactions. Don't know if that was the case with Andre
Citação de: Benfiquista_de_1ª em 22 de Fevereiro de 2015, 00:19
Citação de: Faliro em 22 de Fevereiro de 2015, 00:09
Refs sometimes are mad. The Greek ref who sent of the player I was talking about last month reacted instantly with a card having just yellow carded the same player seconds before. I was thinking.. wow, for a Greek to get that angry, must have been a massive insult...my mind was thinking.. what could he have said? Turns out it was just 'malaka.' :coolsmiley:
Perhaps UEFA have sent out a memo to all the refs to start enforcing and punishing 'dissent.'
Maybe,just like that new "rule" of showing a yellow card to players who ask for a yellow card to other players.
In any case,I think refs should have a bit more sense in this situations and understand that sometimes players have this reactions in the heat of the moment. A different thing is when they go overboard with their reactions. Don't know if that was the case with Andre
For me what pisses me off is that refs are not consistent. One player can swear at a ref all night, not even a yellow - another ref - straight red.
One ref books any player he sees asking for him to book another player. The next game the same ref will not book players doing the same.
That is the kind of stupid behaviour UEFA should be stopping in refs. If you want to be an authoritarian - perfect. Do it. But do it in all the games you ref - including European games.
Seems to me - many of these refs have certain nights where they are very emotional and strict and other games where they are smiling and laughing with the players.. this is the kind of mood swings I expect from a girl someone is dating, not a professional referee.
It's different to say Foda-se(fuck) or merda(shit), which are said on a regular basis, from saying filho da puta(son of a bitch).
By the ref instant reaction and the fact that Andre didn't seem surprised...I'm guessing the last one.
Yeah,that's the problem,when the same referee decides differently in similar situations from match to match,or even worse,in the same match. Honestly there's nothing UEFA or other authorities can do about it because within the rules there's always a space left to the interpretation of the referee and they will always find a reason to their decisions
I remember Seb Blatter saying some shit years ago that contentious decisions add to spectacle of football.. when he was campaigning against goal line technology. It seems the same ridiculous culture is with the refs. And how shit are those extra referees behind the goal. They seem to constantly miss hand balls and when they do call penalties for fouls - they often get it wrong...
Anyways if Boavista can do some damage to Porto, I would say you clear favorites for the league.
Contentious decisions certainly add to the "spectacle" of the game. At least in Portugal we have TV shows to discuss football in which 90% of the time is spent talking about referees ::)
Regarding technology,I was always in favour of the goal line technology and maybe video when there are doubts whether the foul was committed inside or outside the box. I think that in other situations it will always be difficult to implement technology.
Boavista have a squad that was built to play in the third divison.They have some of the worst players I've seen in the top flight in Portugal. On the other hand,they work their socks off,just like their coach,Petit (our former player),used to do. They also play on artificial pitch and porto has some important players suspended/injured. In theory it's a good match for a surprise and Boavista somehow managed to draw with porto in the first match back in September. But honestly,I think porto will end up winning confortably.
Citação de: Benfiquista_de_1ª em 22 de Fevereiro de 2015, 01:03
Boavista have a squad that was built to play in the third divison.
So a slightly better team than PAOK..? ::)
These artificial pitches... never liked them.
Citação de: Festivus em 21 de Fevereiro de 2015, 22:46
Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Fevereiro de 2015, 22:42
Missed the game.
Was the ref a joke?
Our detractors complain about a corner that shouldn't have been awarded and also a Moreirense player being sent off for simply arguing with the referee.
He didn't argued with the referee. He simply said: "Estás comprado, filho da puta. Ladrão do caralho".
Sending off was a good decision.
Citação de: pcssousa em 22 de Fevereiro de 2015, 10:41
Citação de: Festivus em 21 de Fevereiro de 2015, 22:46
Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Fevereiro de 2015, 22:42
Missed the game.
Was the ref a joke?
Our detractors complain about a corner that shouldn't have been awarded and also a Moreirense player being sent off for simply arguing with the referee.
He didn't argued with the referee. He simply said: "Estás comprado, filho da puta. Ladrão do caralho".
Sending off was a good decision.
Oh, you could hear it? I was having dinner at the time so I wasn't paying full attention to the game in the first 15 minutes or so of the 2nd half.
But yea, calling a ref "filho da puta" is deserving of harsh punishment. I knew it'd have been something like that.
Citação de: HJDK em 22 de Fevereiro de 2015, 00:38
It's different to say Foda-se(fuck) or merda(shit), which are said on a regular basis, from saying filho da puta(son of a bitch).
By the ref instant reaction and the fact that Andre didn't seem surprised...I'm guessing the last one.
"Son of a bitch"? That's more like "filho da mãe". "Filho da puta" is closer to "mother fucker", which is a lot more offensive than "son of a bitch".
I didn't hear it. Someone who was on the pitch told me.
Citação de: pcssousa em 22 de Fevereiro de 2015, 13:08
I didn't hear it. Someone who was on the pitch told me.
Oh, I thought it was overheard on tv or something.
None of these insults translate well. Filho da puta/Hijo de puta is much stronger than those english counterparts.
Citação de: Lycaon em 22 de Fevereiro de 2015, 16:10
None of these insults translate well. Filho da puta/Hijo de puta is much stronger than those english counterparts.
Ye, also "fuck" and "fucking" can be translated into several different expressions in our language.
Citação de: Festivus em 22 de Fevereiro de 2015, 12:02
d the fact that Andre didn't seem surprised...I'm guessing the last one. "Son of a bitch"? That's more like "filho da mãe". "Filho da puta" is closer to "mother fucker", which is a lot more offensive than "son of a bitch".
Go fuck yourself, Festivus. U r a moder fucker of the worst species.
Ans I'm totally drunk and it's sinday, wtf?
lol @sinday!
;D
Citação de: HJDK em 23 de Fevereiro de 2015, 01:40
Citação de: Festivus em 22 de Fevereiro de 2015, 12:02
d the fact that Andre didn't seem surprised...I'm guessing the last one. "Son of a bitch"? That's more like "filho da mãe". "Filho da puta" is closer to "mother fucker", which is a lot more offensive than "son of a bitch".
Go fuck yourself, Festivus. U r a moder fucker of the worst species.
Am I, really?
Behave yourselves... :tomates:
Citação de: pcssousa em 23 de Fevereiro de 2015, 12:09
Behave yourselves... :tomates:
Are we allowed to chant "Cavaco! Cavaco!" tonight?
Citação de: Festivus em 23 de Fevereiro de 2015, 12:51
Citação de: pcssousa em 23 de Fevereiro de 2015, 12:09
Behave yourselves... :tomates:
Are we allowed to chant "Cavaco! Cavaco!" tonight?
PORTO HAS LOST! CAVACO! CAVACO! CAVACO!
Citação de: Festivus em 23 de Fevereiro de 2015, 10:57
Citação de: HJDK em 23 de Fevereiro de 2015, 01:40
Citação de: Festivus em 22 de Fevereiro de 2015, 12:02
d the fact that Andre didn't seem surprised...I'm guessing the last one. "Son of a bitch"? That's more like "filho da mãe". "Filho da puta" is closer to "mother fucker", which is a lot more offensive than "son of a bitch".
Go fuck yourself, Festivus. U r a moder fucker of the worst species.
Am I, really?
No.
Citação de: HJDK em 23 de Fevereiro de 2015, 14:29
Citação de: Festivus em 23 de Fevereiro de 2015, 10:57
Citação de: HJDK em 23 de Fevereiro de 2015, 01:40
Citação de: Festivus em 22 de Fevereiro de 2015, 12:02
d the fact that Andre didn't seem surprised...I'm guessing the last one. "Son of a bitch"? That's more like "filho da mãe". "Filho da puta" is closer to "mother fucker", which is a lot more offensive than "son of a bitch".
Go fuck yourself, Festivus. U r a moder fucker of the worst species.
Am I, really?
No.
I was about to sue you for libel.
OK guys, name me, in your opinions, the best 3 Benfica players of the last decade.
Citação de: Faliro em 27 de Fevereiro de 2015, 15:27
OK guys, name me, in your opinions, the best 3 Benfica players of the last decade.
By importance or quality?
By importance: Simão, Luisão, Aimar/Cardozo.
By quality: Simão, Aimar, Matic
Citação de: LMFPC em 27 de Fevereiro de 2015, 15:30
Citação de: Faliro em 27 de Fevereiro de 2015, 15:27
OK guys, name me, in your opinions, the best 3 Benfica players of the last decade.
By importance or quality?
By importance: Simão, Luisão, Aimar/Cardozo.
By quality: Simão, Aimar, Matic
Maybe Di Maria aswell,quality wise.
By importance: Simão,Luisão and Cardozo. Was a pleasure to have Aimar wearing our shirt but those 3 will be remembered as more than just important players,they'll be remembered as heroes
By quality for me Matic and Simão were the best....
Jorge Jesus was not much mistaken when he said '' Matic is the best defensive midfielder in the world'' . It is my personal opinion.
contribution: Simão, Cardozo, Luisão
Quality : Di Maria, Matic, Aimar.
It's a beat har to choose, we had players like Saviola, Coentrao, Ramires, Javi Garcia, Garay, David Luiz, Tiago, Miccolli, Miguel, Witsel . . .
Quality-wise: Di Maria, Matic, Ramires
Importance-wise: Simão, Aimar, Luisão
Interesting seems there is a lot of a cross over.
The most popular seem the famous Simao Sabrosa, the clever Aimar and the ultimate midfielder Matic..
The best, Di María and Matic.
The most important, Simão and Cardozo.
The most fucking epic genius classy motherfucker, Pablo Aimar.
Today is the birthday of our great club ! 111 years ! :slb2:
Congratulations Sport Lisboa e Benfica!
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Citação de: cipri_slb em 28 de Fevereiro de 2015, 00:22
Today is the birthday of our great club ! 111 years ! :slb2:
Congratulations Sport Lisboa e Benfica!
(http://c5.quickcachr.fotos.sapo.pt/i/o3e16824c/16858170_8c2z1.jpeg)
The only moment that I like Marquês de Pombal's square...I think that such an important place for Lisbon and Portugal shouldn't be sorrounded by those shitty buildings. Just my opinion...
figures: Simao, Luisao, Cardozo
quality: Simao, Matic, Aimar and a huge and underrated player: Ramires
Citação de: paalexg em 28 de Fevereiro de 2015, 00:49
Citação de: cipri_slb em 28 de Fevereiro de 2015, 00:22
Today is the birthday of our great club ! 111 years ! :slb2:
Congratulations Sport Lisboa e Benfica!
(http://c5.quickcachr.fotos.sapo.pt/i/o3e16824c/16858170_8c2z1.jpeg)
The only moment that I like Marquês de Pombal's square...I think that such an important place for Lisbon and Portugal shouldn't be sorrounded by those shitty buildings. Just my opinion...
Still better than what the Greeks did to Omonia and Syndagma Squares... :buck2:
Citação de: Faliro em 28 de Fevereiro de 2015, 14:11
Citação de: paalexg em 28 de Fevereiro de 2015, 00:49
Citação de: cipri_slb em 28 de Fevereiro de 2015, 00:22
Today is the birthday of our great club ! 111 years ! :slb2:
Congratulations Sport Lisboa e Benfica!
(http://c5.quickcachr.fotos.sapo.pt/i/o3e16824c/16858170_8c2z1.jpeg)
The only moment that I like Marquês de Pombal's square...I think that such an important place for Lisbon and Portugal shouldn't be sorrounded by those shitty buildings. Just my opinion...
Still better than what the Greeks did to Omonia and Syndagma Squares... :buck2:
I just checked those...horrible. :crazy2:
I was talking about the semi-circular buildings...because the rest it's quite nice, honestly.
(http://www.painatal.com/imagens/painatal_com_27072005pic19169.jpg)
(http://lh6.ggpht.com/-U_ZENQlMU7c/UJOLC0a_TII/AAAAAAAAmkg/GYfEo7-mafY/Pra%2525C3%2525A7a%252520Marqu%2525C3%2525AAs%252520de%252520Pombal.2_thumb%25255B11%25255D.jpg?imgmax=800)
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The main problem, for me, in Lisbon is the amount of buildings that are damaged...too many of them. Thousands...
Is it cheap to buy an old damaged house is Lisboa?
Regarding Omonia and Syndagma, the two most important squares in Greece...
Omonia before..
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Today..
(http://turkey.setimes.com/shared/images/2012/09/24/LILYphoto-800_550.jpg)
Syndagma (Parliament square) before..
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Today:
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Citação de: Faliro em 28 de Fevereiro de 2015, 14:48
Is it cheap to buy an old damaged house is Lisboa?
No. I mean, at least at the historical centre...they are super expensive, so these buildings, usually, just are bougth to make hotels or stuff like that...
(http://imagens6.publico.pt/imagens.aspx/390606?tp=UH&db=IMAGENS)
(http://www.teiaportuguesa.com/lisboa/images/lisboadoscafes.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-CJNGJ5q-tAg/VJA76iNSp7I/AAAAAAAACI8/NrvkKLSjZVA/s1600/PC291570.JPG)
An example...
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Yea, my friend who loves lisboa says there are plenty of old houses literally falling apart in Lisboa.. I saw a few from the plane when taking off from the airport. They had no roofs..
Lisboa has improved somewhat in the past decade. In the late 90s/early 00s it felt like a depressing place at times. Fortunately some squares and gardens have been taken care of since then. Many places were sorta abandoned for several years.
It seems a beautiful city.
Citação de: Faliro em 28 de Fevereiro de 2015, 15:19
It seems a beautiful city.
The historical parts are nice. The rest of the city is far from being impressive. Then again, not every quarter of Paris is beautiful either.
Citação de: Faliro em 28 de Fevereiro de 2015, 15:19
It seems a beautiful city.
I like Lisboa quite a lot and miss it very much.
My latest hobby before leaving was walking around the historical center, visiting the
alfarrabistas (old bookstores with decade-old editions and very cheap prices), I've even made a map for it. Walking around, up and down the narrow alleys and streets, with the Portuguese pavement under my feet, always felt special to me, while having the river and the sea visible from most places added a bit of mystique to it.
One of my best experiences was when me and a couple of friends went to Cacilhas (on the other side of the river) to have some wine and fried cuttlefish (a specialty of the region). Coming back to Lisbon on a
cacilheiro (classic old boat) with our spirits very high due to Bacchus nectar, we witnessed the twilight, while bouncing on the waves. Then we went to explore the old part of the city and... This was absolutely amazing, but somehow we got into a hidden square, surrounded by old buildings, a very unusual and different sight from the rest of the city. The square was filled with ordinary people, the kind of people that live with the minimum wage but still smile throughout the day and the years. Apparently a couple of that neighbourhood had just married on that day and by pure coincidence, when we got there, it came out of nowhere a guy with a classic guitar and dared the groom to sing with him playing, so they started playing and singing Fado. In a second, the whole square joined in unison, people (probably) from the wedding, people on the sidewalks just crossing by out of coincidence, people on the windows from around the whole square. Then as soon as it ended, everyone just casually dispersed and went on with their lives. A magic moment, that lasted no more than 5 minutes, but that gave me the chills and I will forever remember it in my mind.
PS: The song was "
Lisboa Menina e Moça".
In Lisbon, my favourite place is Belém...but they are fucking it with stupid buildings...
It's not Lisbon, but is close enough...the best place in Lisbon region and, perhaps, in Portugal (for me) is Sintra.
(http://lisbonsecrets.com/wp-content/uploads/pt-Sintra-capital-do-Romantismo-_en-Sintra-capital-of-the-Romantic-mouvement-_es-Sintra-capital-del-Romantismo-_fr-Sintra-capitale-du-Romantism.jpg)
(http://www.cupspesialisten.no/images/produktbilder/Lisboa%20Cup/865-palacio-nacional-de-sintra-palacio-da-vila_big.jpg)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/53/Sintra_znimok_4.jpg)
(http://www.insidelisbon.com/sites/default/files/daytrips/private/715-photo-1614.JPG)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/ff/Castelo_dos_Mouros_-_Sintra_(_Portugal_)3.jpg)
(http://www.quintadamarinha.com/Images/Sintra.jpg)
(http://ohcasa.com/assets/templates/images/sintra/home/top-slideshow/09.jpg)
(https://blogbugger.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/quinta-da-regaleira_sintra.jpg)
:D :D :D
Sintra :bow2:
Been to Sintra a couple of times on HS trips. Lovely place, indeed.
Linha de Sintra however...
Two thumbs up for Sintra. Though the village is quite gorgeous, during the Winter, at night, with fog, the forest acquires a very special atmosphere.
Citação de: H em 28 de Fevereiro de 2015, 23:14
during the Winter, at night, with fog, the forest acquires a very special atmosphere.
It's creepy as fuck. I love it.
Have to check out this spooky Sintra..
Citação de: H em 28 de Fevereiro de 2015, 21:37
Citação de: Faliro em 28 de Fevereiro de 2015, 15:19
It seems a beautiful city.
I like Lisboa quite a lot and miss it very much.
My latest hobby before leaving was walking around the historical center, visiting the alfarrabistas (old bookstores with decade-old editions and very cheap prices), I've even made a map for it. Walking around, up and down the narrow alleys and streets, with the Portuguese pavement under my feet, always felt special to me, while having the river and the sea visible from most places added a bit of mystique to it.
One of my best experiences was when me and a couple of friends went to Cacilhas (on the other side of the river) to have some wine and fried cuttlefish (a specialty of the region). Coming back to Lisbon on a cacilheiro (classic old boat) with our spirits very high due to Bacchus nectar, we witnessed the twilight, while bouncing on the waves. Then we went to explore the old part of the city and... This was absolutely amazing, but somehow we got into a hidden square, surrounded by old buildings, a very unusual and different sight from the rest of the city. The square was filled with ordinary people, the kind of people that live with the minimum wage but still smile throughout the day and the years. Apparently a couple of that neighbourhood had just married on that day and by pure coincidence, when we got there, it came out of nowhere a guy with a classic guitar and dared the groom to sing with him playing, so they started playing and singing Fado. In a second, the whole square joined in unison, people (probably) from the wedding, people on the sidewalks just crossing by out of coincidence, people on the windows from around the whole square. Then as soon as it ended, everyone just casually dispersed and went on with their lives. A magic moment, that lasted no more than 5 minutes, but that gave me the chills and I will forever remember it in my mind.
PS: The song was "Lisboa Menina e Moça".
Sounds like a special moment to remember. :)
Citação de: HJDK em 28 de Fevereiro de 2015, 23:21
Citação de: H em 28 de Fevereiro de 2015, 23:14
during the Winter, at night, with fog, the forest acquires a very special atmosphere.
It's creepy as fuck. I love it.
Indeed.
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-KHEMnyDMhyg/UpL7zic2ZbI/AAAAAAAAHa8/wB8Sy5_wF2A/s1600/outono+em+sintra+pal%C3%A1cio+pena+ttiago+neiva.jpg)
(http://blog.awesomebooks.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/cateinalima.jpg)
(http://c4.quickcachr.fotos.sapo.pt/i/B7c14637a/15227856_MH2na.jpeg)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Za-WfwoYx-I/UihrCcWa36I/AAAAAAAAAdg/YG-scHH9Q8M/s1600/Fotografia1432.jpg)
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Kqfe8ZgRSKs/TClHgjwRNYI/AAAAAAAAAxE/__3-oYbQhwY/s1600/P5200812.JPG)
Why u so useless Sporting
I love Lisbon.
Miss the times I spent there...
Lo! Cintra's glorious Eden intervenes
In variegated maze of mount and glen.
Ah, me! what hand can pencil guide, or pen,
To follow half on which the eye dilates,
Through views more dazzling unto mortal ken
Than those whereof such things the bard relates,
Who to the awe-struck world unlock'd Elysium's gates?
Our Championship is a joke. The game between Braga and Porto was a disgrace.
bought game?
Big game for us today. Sold out stadium and a must win. Carrega Benfica :metal:
62.500 people to see us beat Porto B! Go Benfica! :slb2:
Samaris was a tank today.
Nice. Benfica is the type of the club that can take a midfielder to the next level.
He is most likely to start every NT game he is fit for now Maniatis is out for the rest of the season. Makarian is an attacking coach and will probably play him as a 6.
Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Março de 2015, 19:34
Nice. Benfica is the type of the club that can take a midfielder to the next level.
He is most likely to start every NT game he is fit for now Maniatis is out for the rest of the season. Makarian is an attacking coach and will probably play him as a 6.
Júlio César
Samaris
Jonas
Our 3 best signings.
Photos from our amazing stadium today. :smitten:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t31.0-8/10835431_10155310763025716_1045356565254551022_o.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFR2DiVAAA8htB.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFTvlJWAAA-dQ8.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFK2YoVAAAxx94.jpg:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CAFJBQWUgAAkJtp.jpg:large)
Great victory. Braga was a big zero in this game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIPt_tjjd9M
http://abload.de/img/4samarisreplaytvure.gif
Super Samaris, his Portuguese language development is a proof of his intelligence, something that is seen also on the pitch.
Citação de: H em 15 de Março de 2015, 14:18
Super Samaris, his Portuguese language development is a proof of his intelligence, something that seen also on the pitch.
I expected him to have a brazilian accent lol
Me too. He really mastered the ''sssssshhhhhh'' sound.
Maybe he's good friends with Amorim, dunno.
Citação de: Festivus em 15 de Março de 2015, 18:27
Maybe he's good friends with Amorim, dunno.
He is a very good friend of Pizzi and André Almeida.
(http://abload.de/img/2jonasgolofestejo221upy.gif)
What we call "um jogador à Benfica"!!
(http://s10.postimg.org/un42tjbq1/image.jpg)
He has the mística. :drool:
:slb2:
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Março de 2015, 19:41
Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Março de 2015, 19:34
Nice. Benfica is the type of the club that can take a midfielder to the next level.
He is most likely to start every NT game he is fit for now Maniatis is out for the rest of the season. Makarian is an attacking coach and will probably play him as a 6.
Júlio César
Samaris
Jonas
Our 3 best signings.
The last ones.
Citação de: T1n0_SLB em 15 de Março de 2015, 23:57
Citação de: Festivus em 14 de Março de 2015, 19:41
Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Março de 2015, 19:34
Nice. Benfica is the type of the club that can take a midfielder to the next level.
He is most likely to start every NT game he is fit for now Maniatis is out for the rest of the season. Makarian is an attacking coach and will probably play him as a 6.
Júlio César
Samaris
Jonas
Our 3 best signings.
The last ones.
If Jonas had been signed in time to play in the Champions League, who knows...
Cristante was a good signing too. He will prove that.
Citação de: Covenant em 16 de Março de 2015, 01:03
Cristante was a good signing too. He will prove that.
He's for the future, though. Unlike Jonas, JC and Samaris who were signed as immediate starters.
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Março de 2015, 17:00
Citação de: Covenant em 16 de Março de 2015, 01:03
Cristante was a good signing too. He will prove that.
He's for the future, though. Unlike Jonas, JC and Samaris who were signed as immediate starters.
I know.
What happened?
Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Março de 2015, 20:13
What happened?
We lost. I'm so fucking sad. It is impressive the way we let this happen. Now we are 1 point from porto. And we don't deal very well with pressure. So, porto champion 2014-2015.
Citação de: Maxi_14 em 21 de Março de 2015, 20:18
Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Março de 2015, 20:13
What happened?
We lost. I'm so fucking sad. It is impressive the way we let this happen. Now we are 1 point from porto. And we don't deal very well with pressure. So, porto champion 2014-2015.
3 points
Citação de: Covenant em 21 de Março de 2015, 22:56
Citação de: Maxi_14 em 21 de Março de 2015, 20:18
Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Março de 2015, 20:13
What happened?
We lost. I'm so fucking sad. It is impressive the way we let this happen. Now we are 1 point from porto. And we don't deal very well with pressure. So, porto champion 2014-2015.
3 points
Yes. Surprisingly they didn't win.
But again. We don't deal very well with pressure.
Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Março de 2015, 20:13
What happened?
See... that's what I told you about Benfica fans still having monsters above our shoulders.
Turns out... Porto draw. So not that bad. Our lead is now 3 pts.
Citação de: Maxi_14 em 21 de Março de 2015, 23:00
Citação de: Covenant em 21 de Março de 2015, 22:56
Citação de: Maxi_14 em 21 de Março de 2015, 20:18
Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Março de 2015, 20:13
What happened?
We lost. I'm so fucking sad. It is impressive the way we let this happen. Now we are 1 point from porto. And we don't deal very well with pressure. So, porto champion 2014-2015.
3 points
Yes. Surprisingly they didn't win.
But again. We don't deal very well with pressure.
And Porto?
Citação de: Covenant em 21 de Março de 2015, 23:07
Citação de: Maxi_14 em 21 de Março de 2015, 23:00
Citação de: Covenant em 21 de Março de 2015, 22:56
Citação de: Maxi_14 em 21 de Março de 2015, 20:18
Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Março de 2015, 20:13
What happened?
We lost. I'm so fucking sad. It is impressive the way we let this happen. Now we are 1 point from porto. And we don't deal very well with pressure. So, porto champion 2014-2015.
3 points
Yes. Surprisingly they didn't win.
But again. We don't deal very well with pressure.
And Porto?
If we did our job we could now have 80% sure that we would win the championship. And I am not referring just to this game. If we did our job well we didn't have to worry with porto at this moment and be scared that we can loose points in the next 3 matches, at least.
We know very well how things are for porto. They don't have pressure.
If Benfica wins against Rio Ave I can assure you, Porto have done the same with Nacional.
Citação de: Covenant em 21 de Março de 2015, 23:42
If Benfica wins against Rio Ave I can assure you, Porto have done the same with Nacional.
Probably yes.
Citação de: Covenant em 21 de Março de 2015, 23:42
If Benfica wins against Rio Ave I can assure you, Porto have done the same with Nacional.
Yeah. Lately they can't deal with pressure either.
Samaris did the penalty that resulted in 1-1 with 15 minutes left to play.
A foolish one. :disgust:
I heard..
Easy :)
When you playing Porto?
Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Abril de 2015, 15:50
When you playing Porto?
On the Portuguese revolution day.
25th April.
More likely 26th, because they have their Champions League match the week before.
(http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/4-11-2015/5QtaM1.gif) (http://makeagif.com/5QtaM1)
Samaris reaction before coming off, Fejsa was coming in after a injury that kept him away almost a year from the pitch, had two surgeries and his career was at risk. The Serbian also scored a goal, his first for Benfica! Amazing. :)
(https://cld.pt/dl/download/9e4d0ade-75b3-4cf3-a075-e4dd202b218b/SLB%20fotos/Futebol%20A/2014-2015/50%20%5BLiga%2014-15%20Jornada%2028%5D%20Benfica%205-1%20Acad%C3%A9mica/11150903_10155418817880716_7318928635186015395_n.jpg)
(https://cld.pt/dl/download/9e4d0ade-75b3-4cf3-a075-e4dd202b218b/SLB%20fotos/Futebol%20A/2014-2015/50%20%5BLiga%2014-15%20Jornada%2028%5D%20Benfica%205-1%20Acad%C3%A9mica/GettyImages-469331250.jpg)
(https://cld.pt/dl/download/9e4d0ade-75b3-4cf3-a075-e4dd202b218b/SLB%20fotos/Futebol%20A/2014-2015/50%20%5BLiga%2014-15%20Jornada%2028%5D%20Benfica%205-1%20Acad%C3%A9mica/GettyImages-469331258.jpg)
(https://cld.pt/dl/download/9e4d0ade-75b3-4cf3-a075-e4dd202b218b/SLB%20fotos/Futebol%20A/2014-2015/50%20%5BLiga%2014-15%20Jornada%2028%5D%20Benfica%205-1%20Acad%C3%A9mica/11053322_10155418820635716_1552543049063449178_n.jpg)
(https://cld.pt/dl/download/9e4d0ade-75b3-4cf3-a075-e4dd202b218b/SLB%20fotos/Futebol%20A/2014-2015/50%20%5BLiga%2014-15%20Jornada%2028%5D%20Benfica%205-1%20Acad%C3%A9mica/10418213_10155418819235716_5487660384178909395_n.jpg)
(https://cld.pt/dl/download/9e4d0ade-75b3-4cf3-a075-e4dd202b218b/SLB%20fotos/Futebol%20A/2014-2015/50%20%5BLiga%2014-15%20Jornada%2028%5D%20Benfica%205-1%20Acad%C3%A9mica/fc04923345016210730f6a7067001139.jpg)
A deserved standing ovation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bEPAeYmZvI&spfreload=10
Beautiful moment.
3 more points against Belenenses in a Derby.
Next Porto.
And Samaris... :D He has 11 yellow cards (no one beats him in that) and he played 88 minutes yesterday when we had the game since 65 minutes. Everyone was almost panicking because JJ wasn't making the substitution. And there is one lance that everyone's heart stop for a moment because that could have been a yellow.
Well, he went out, everybody was relieved and he will play against porto where i expect him to make the game of his life. Yesterday he was bad.
He always stand up in the most important games.
How many yellow cards so far?
Bad game overall. The first half was awful. The second one was better but both teams played more with their heart than with their brains. Seriously, both teams were pretty anxious and fouling a lot. I think most neutrals who watched this game could smell a 0-0 tie early in.
Watched the first 30 mins but got bored. JJ wanted a destroyed game i think.
Citação de: Covenant em 19 de Abril de 2015, 11:15
He always stand up in the most important games.
MVP. Easy. :)
Samaris?
Samaris and Fesja.... both did a very good game . :)
What a shitty game :2funny:
It was a match of few opportunities,but it wasn't a shitty one. In fact,only two really high level teams could've played a match like this,showing great intensity,great organization and tremendous concentration levels throughout the 90 minutes.
Playing at home we lost a good opportunity to finish them off and guarantee the title,but at least we didn't lose and are still in the driving seat.
This is what I call some mediocre piece of steaming cow dung.
Entertaining, though.
Citação de: Benfiquista_de_1ª em 26 de Abril de 2015, 19:41
It was a match of few opportunities,but it wasn't a shitty one. In fact,only two really high level teams could've played a match like this,showing great intensity,great organization and tremendous concentration levels throughout the 90 minutes.
Hi Jorge Jesus
Citação de: Covenant em 26 de Abril de 2015, 19:44
Citação de: Benfiquista_de_1ª em 26 de Abril de 2015, 19:41
It was a match of few opportunities,but it wasn't a shitty one. In fact,only two really high level teams could've played a match like this,showing great intensity,great organization and tremendous concentration levels throughout the 90 minutes.
Hi Jorge Jesus
It looked like a Serie A match between Juve and Milan of the 90's
Citação de: Mindsweeper em 26 de Abril de 2015, 19:43
This is what I call some mediocre piece of steaming cow dung.
Entertaining, though.
Angry Video Game Nerd?
Citação de: Festivus em 26 de Abril de 2015, 19:46
Citação de: Mindsweeper em 26 de Abril de 2015, 19:43
This is what I call some mediocre piece of steaming cow dung.
Entertaining, though.
Angry Video Game Nerd?
Bipolar Philosopher.
(http://i.guim.co.uk/static/w-940/h--/q-95/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2015/4/27/1430132731337/3b1bb017-e238-46db-a763-3371b9eed091-1020x685.jpeg)
Bittersweet flavour from last match.
It was better than loosing, but worse than winning.
Very good match for Samaris and Jardel.
(https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/11196289_10155478124675716_6325753857085685651_n.jpg?oh=dd56c22c50b32b75ae301de787dfb53c&oe=55CB3623)
(https://scontent-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-9/11059484_10155480657740716_4329271031055910747_n.jpg?oh=a561551e1a4c3e008afcfdbc9a846c13&oe=55E4764A)
:smitten:
You guys should check the Benfica x Porto thread out, epic arguing about the quality of some photograph taken by a user:
http://serbenfiquista.com/forum/geral/primeira-liga-30aj-sl-benfica-fc-porto-26abr-dom-h-*btv1*/msg1080402697/#msg1080402697
Citação de: Jotenko em 30 de Abril de 2015, 12:47
You guys should check the Benfica x Porto thread out, epic arguing about the quality of some photograph taken by a user:
http://serbenfiquista.com/forum/geral/primeira-liga-30aj-sl-benfica-fc-porto-26abr-dom-h-*btv1*/msg1080402697/#msg1080402697
Oh so that's why people are still talking about it.
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8767/16700980014_5d5c290231_o.jpg)
Open in a new tab.
Player ratings for todays' game?
One step closer.
I didn't watch at home, when I'm in public I don't analyze the game the same way but:
Maxi Pereira, Samaris, Sulejmani and Jonas: amazing.
The others are either defenders without much trouble today or average exhbitions.
Fejsa played the second half. He's better than ever. I actually didn't like him that much the first games for us before the injury but he's in excellent form.
Jonas is currently my favorite player.
Citação de: Faliro em 02 de Maio de 2015, 20:39
Player ratings for todays' game?
Hard to give you ratings for each player individually, gives a lot of work :D
We defended very well in a collective way.
Jonas, the forward with great intelligence in the way he plays.
Sulejmani surprising appear on starting 11, very good assist in first goal.
Fejsa got in in around 40th min after Gaitan injured. He returned very well from injury, he's in great shape, fast and powerfull. Gived balance to defensive midfield.
Samaris regular game, as Eliseu the left back and Lima the other forward.
Maxi, the great right back made 2 goals. The prototype of what should be a Benfica player.
Both central defenders and goalkeeper did very well, as usual.
Game turned out to be much easier than expected.
One more step towards 34 championship title. 6 points and 3 games missing. We can't loose this.
Another home win last saturday, 4-0 to Penafiel.
They were the last on table and with this defeat got relegated to 2nd division.
We didn't make an amazing game but even so we were very effective on scoring which made the game "easy".
Three points missing for 34th championship with 2 games to play. Hope we can get them on sunday, in Guimarães.
Has Samaris broke any records concerning yellow cards?
(http://i.gyazo.com/09c19dfa86deaaec3123a4c98fb5a6f9.png)
Not even in this year
Even so he is top ranked in 4th place :cool2:
Seems he is joint top with 12?
So... 34
:slb2:
:clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
Well done Benfica. Hard fought championship.
:flagglorioso: :flagglorioso: :flagglorioso:
Citação de: Faliro em 18 de Maio de 2015, 00:48
:clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
Well done Benfica. Hard fought championship.
:flagglorioso: :flagglorioso: :flagglorioso:
Yea who would have thought after the shitty summer transfer market? I mean we got Jonas, Samaris and Júlio César, but Porto had a more impressive squad on paper whilst our bench looked scary. In fact, every time Gaitán or Salvio were unavailable it was a pain in the ass.
Porto were a huge failure this season. Spent dozens of millions and won jack shit.
What will your midfield look like next season? Samaris still as the DM?
Citação de: Faliro em 19 de Maio de 2015, 14:33
What will your midfield look like next season? Samaris still as the DM?
Nobody knows.
Citação de: Faliro em 19 de Maio de 2015, 14:33
What will your midfield look like next season? Samaris still as the DM?
With this president we never know what will happen.
Portugal has the best manager school in the world:
One, two, three, four, five! Portuguese coaches triumph all over Europe
http://www.portugoal.net/portuguese-abroad/200-one-two-three-four-five-portuguese-coaches-triumph-all-over-europe
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CFuyjg3WMAA-VwV.jpg:large)
He said: "Benfica é o maior clube do mundo!"
Great interview with him. Amazing professional, amazing person and a fantastic player.
He speaks perfect portuguese. It´s amazing how he is fully committed with the club. Hope he stays for many years.
Is there a video of his portuguese language skills?
(http://www.sport24.gr/football/diethnes-podosfairo/article3488358.ece/BINARY/w620/11257177_803997999696705_6620497174041869997_n.jpg)
Citação de: Faliro em 24 de Maio de 2015, 13:18
Is there a video of his portuguese language skills?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfyNuIgMvTw
Starts at 5:25:53. Last week in Marquês. :smitten:
Wow that impressed me.
Citação de: Faliro em 24 de Maio de 2015, 23:13
Wow that impressed me.
The best part it's in the end when the interviewer congratulates him for his portuguese and he says "I'm sorry for it. I will continue to learn and talk even better next year". After speaking incredibly well! ;D
What an amazing lad and a true champion. Girls call him "The Greek God." ;D
Citação de: HJDK em 24 de Maio de 2015, 23:17
Citação de: Faliro em 24 de Maio de 2015, 23:13
Wow that impressed me.
The best part it's in the end when the interviewer congratulates him for his portuguese and he says "I'm sorry for it. I will continue to learn and talk even better next year". After speaking incredibly well! ;D
What an amazing lad and a true champion. Girls call him "The Greek God." ;D
He is. ;D
To see all that commitment that he has with Benfica makes me admire him. As the professional that he is.
And in my opinion he is really beautiful. It's the perfect combination.
(and i'm a girl)
When you bought Samaris, you bought a footballer and a Benfiquista it seems. It is quite rare when that happens. The fact that he learnt Portuguese well tells you that he is serious about Benfica and doing well there. He sees himself as part of Benfica. Congratulations. You got a loyal servant there. O0
Citação de: Faliro em 24 de Maio de 2015, 23:37
When you bought Samaris, you bought a footballer and a Benfiquista it seems. It is quite rare when that happens. The fact that he learnt Portuguese well tells you that he is serious about Benfica and doing well there. He sees himself as part of Benfica. Congratulations. You got a loyal servant there. O0
It's probably the red and white jerseys that did it.
If I am being 100% honest I think he is a Benfiquista and not a Gavro.
At Olympiacos he was only ever a sub most games for the short time he was in Piraeus and also he was never an Olympiacos youth product.
He definitely relates far more to Benfica than Olympiacos. He did not even congratulate Olympiacos on winning the double.
One more trophy :)
Any news concerning a new manager?
Everything points to Rui Vitoria. Nothing oficial though!
Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Junho de 2015, 20:35
Any news concerning a new manager?
All reports indicate that the new coach will be Rui Vitória, current coach of Vitória Guimarães.
The confirmation may happen tomorrow...
Other names that have been spoken:
- Marco Silva
- Vítor Pereira
- Paulo Bento
Any more news?
Citação de: Faliro em 09 de Junho de 2015, 14:05
Any more news?
Rui Vitória will most certainly be the new coach. He's done very well so far in his career,but I'm not sure he's big team material.
Regarding players,looks like we're very close to signing Zivkovic,a young serbian winger from Partizan and the U20 Serbian national team. Also,there are some rumours that Maxi Pereira agreed to sign a new deal with us.
Citação de: Benfiquista_de_1ª em 10 de Junho de 2015, 04:25
Rui Vitória will most certainly be the new coach.
Was there ever any doubt, except in the waxy minds of bloggers and forum users?
Rui Carlos Pinho da Vitória is the personal and intransmissible choice of Luís Filipe Ferreira Vieira.
Deal with it.
Maxi Pereira another traitor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8trD2my5P0
:)
Σπορτ Λισμπόα ε Μπενφίκα "Η Ένδοξη"
Former Benfica target Mitroglou on a beach yesterday:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYmUM39AL7I
Citação de: Faliro em 30 de Junho de 2015, 13:22Nanchara nanchara
You should watch this, even if you don't understand a word they're saying.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lltJM5xiJcM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_LM4xSYEVA
... and I still have cookies.
What players have you signed so far?
Adel Taarabt
Mehdi Carcela-Gonzalez
Ederson Moraes (cousin of our former GK Artur)
Fernando Marçal
The others don't count for the A squad.
Citação de: Cloughie em 27 de Julho de 2015, 15:37
Adel Taarabt
Mehdi Carcela-Gonzalez
Ederson Moraes (cousin of our former GK Artur)
Fernando Marçal
The others don't count for the A squad.
That's not true.
Citação de: paalexg em 27 de Julho de 2015, 16:44
Citação de: Cloughie em 27 de Julho de 2015, 15:37
Adel Taarabt
Mehdi Carcela-Gonzalez
Ederson Moraes (cousin of our former GK Artur)
Fernando Marçal
The others don't count for the A squad.
That's not true.
Is that right?
I was sure about those family ties.
Citação de: Cloughie em 27 de Julho de 2015, 16:48
Citação de: paalexg em 27 de Julho de 2015, 16:44
Citação de: Cloughie em 27 de Julho de 2015, 15:37
Adel Taarabt
Mehdi Carcela-Gonzalez
Ederson Moraes (cousin of our former GK Artur)
Fernando Marçal
The others don't count for the A squad.
That's not true.
Is that right?
I was sure about those family ties.
Artur said that's bullshit in "Segredos do 34".
Any stand out signings?
Citação de: Faliro em 27 de Julho de 2015, 16:52
Any stand out signings?
Carcela looks good.
Taarabt is fat.
Ederson is okay.
Marçal is ... that "s" word.
Citação de: paalexg em 27 de Julho de 2015, 16:51
Citação de: Cloughie em 27 de Julho de 2015, 16:48
Citação de: paalexg em 27 de Julho de 2015, 16:44
Citação de: Cloughie em 27 de Julho de 2015, 15:37
Adel Taarabt
Mehdi Carcela-Gonzalez
Ederson Moraes (cousin of our former GK Artur)
Fernando Marçal
The others don't count for the A squad.
That's not true.
Is that right?
I was sure about those family ties.
Artur said that's bullshit in "Segredos do 34".
I didn't know about that.
Thanks. O0
Citação de: Faliro em 27 de Julho de 2015, 16:52
Any stand out signings?
Not really...so far, I would say Carcela. But still, I don´t think that's enough...
Citação de: paalexg em 27 de Julho de 2015, 16:54
Citação de: Faliro em 27 de Julho de 2015, 16:52
Any stand out signings?
Not really...so far, I would say Carcela. But still, I don´t think that's enough...
´
But you're stupid.
Citação de: cipri_slb em 27 de Julho de 2015, 16:57
Citação de: paalexg em 27 de Julho de 2015, 16:54
Citação de: Faliro em 27 de Julho de 2015, 16:52
Any stand out signings?
Not really...so far, I would say Carcela. But still, I don´t think that's enough...
´
But you're stupid.
É lidar. Sou estúpido, mas dás-me "conversa".
Citação de: Faliro em 27 de Julho de 2015, 16:52
Any stand out signings?
Yeah. It seems we're on the brink of signing a prophet or a messiah. 'Cos it's coming close to begging for a miracle. Not quite yet but it's like being hungry and smelling a bakery. You know it's there and it makes your belly tingle.
Apparently Kost(http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/godzilla/images/b/bb/Emoticon_-_Godzilla.png/revision/latest?cb=20130910024754) is coming to us. This will be a great signing, our pre-season has been nothing short of pathetic, Mitro will be a great acquisition.
Now we're missing one LD, one RD and one undeniably talented winger.
Love the kostzilla!
:2funny:
(http://kourkouti.sport24.gr/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/kourkouti-ergotelis-olympiakos-mitroglou-kostzilla.jpg)
Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Agosto de 2015, 14:27
Love the kostzilla!
:2funny:
(http://kourkouti.sport24.gr/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/kourkouti-ergotelis-olympiakos-mitroglou-kostzilla.jpg)
mate how was his last season with you guys?? good?
Good. If he didn't have a muscle strain that kept him out over a month he may have got to 20 goals.
Faliro, strengths and weaknesses of Mitroglou?
^^
http://serbenfiquista.com/forum/mercado/mitroglou-(olympiacos)-record/msg1081196494/?topicseen#msg1081196494
Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Agosto de 2015, 15:45
^^
http://serbenfiquista.com/forum/mercado/mitroglou-(olympiacos)-record/msg1081196494/?topicseen#msg1081196494
Thanks, mate.
Looks like that he's coming for real.
What have you heard?
Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Agosto de 2015, 17:29
What have you heard?
our press is saying that he will sign today for benfica
Congratulations Benfica. This guy can be a real beast for you. He likes the big games too.
And we're back to having two Greeks on the squad, it seems. First time since the Katsouranis and Karagounis days.
I wonder if this is the Faliro effect...
It is ^^. And Samaris and Mitroglou will offer Benfica far more than the two previous Greeks did.
Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Agosto de 2015, 19:42
It is ^^. And Samaris and Mitroglou will offer Benfica far more than the two previous Greeks did.
Samaris had a promising first season and now Vitória wants to make him a leader on the pitch. He's probably a future captain if he stays around in the next few years and Luisão retires meanwhile.
Karagounis was a good player but didn't stay for very long. Katsouranis had some good and also some awful games where he just didn't seem to give a shit. He also had a fight with Luisão during practice back in 2007/2008, I think.
They are both Vazelos junk.. Katsouranis only quit smoking a few years ago.
Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Agosto de 2015, 20:27
They are both Vazelos junk.. Katsouranis only quit smoking a few years ago.
...that explains a lot.
Citação de: vermelhoftw em 05 de Agosto de 2015, 18:05
Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Agosto de 2015, 17:29
What have you heard?
our press is saying that he will sign today for benfica
And also the two informers of SB, fireegle and faneca. ;D ;D
I just hope we get the Olympiakos Mitroglou and not the Fulham Mitroglou
The Fulham Mitroglou is just him injured and unfit.
Faliro, you should have seen the frenzy last night on Mitro's thread, as he was about to land in Lisbon. Absolutely hysterical, nerve-wrecking for some and just plain fun for others, between jokes, collages and Photoshop edits, forum members at the airport trying to take pictures without any guarantee that he was actually coming and social media sites using their photos on the news and articles, it was deeply hilarious. ;D
Actually if you hit the Best Messages, you'll get a quick glimpse of the top messages from yesterday. Another classic night, only possible in SB. :smokin:
Citação de: H em 06 de Agosto de 2015, 11:26
Faliro, you should have seen the frenzy last night on Mitro's thread, as he was about to land in Lisbon. Absolutely hysterical, nerve-wrecking for some and just plain fun for others, between jokes, collages and Photoshop edits, forum members at the airport trying to take pictures without any guarantee that he was actually coming and social media sites using their photos on the news and articles, it was deeply hilarious. ;D
Actually if you hit the Best Messages, you'll get a quick glimpse of the top messages from yesterday. Another classic night, only possible in SB. :smokin:
I was part of the madness. I made about 10 posts in that thread up until 2 am. I laughed my ass off when the plane seemed to fly past Lisbon and some Benfiquistas panicked. ;D
Where is the best messages button?
Citação de: Faliro em 06 de Agosto de 2015, 11:49
Where is the best messages button?
http://serbenfiquista.com/
Then you click in the button
best mensagens that is next to the
live button.
Did Mitroglou have his medical?
Citação de: Faliro em 06 de Agosto de 2015, 18:12
Did Mitroglou have his medical?
If this answers you :police:
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/11825815_10155879883905716_6393252716141016639_n.jpg?oh=4259b069f6c19461a38fc98c1d0f4f04&oe=5644DA5D)
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/11836830_10152950800466956_1899479518732232243_n.jpg?oh=009ba2b1173f1dffd61286988536d5c0&oe=56833079)
The kit suits him.
The fifth Greek playing for us.
Citação de: pcssousa em 06 de Agosto de 2015, 22:23
The fifth Greek playing for us.
Isn't he the sixth? Machairidis, Fyssas, Karagounis, Katsouranis, Samaris and now Mitroglou.
Citação de: sagan1976 em 06 de Agosto de 2015, 23:43
Citação de: pcssousa em 06 de Agosto de 2015, 22:23
The fifth Greek playing for us.
Isn't he the sixth? Machairidis, Fyssas, Karagounis, Katsouranis, Samaris and now Mitroglou.
I'm sure he's doing his best to forget the first one.
Citação de: Festivus em 06 de Agosto de 2015, 23:47
Citação de: sagan1976 em 06 de Agosto de 2015, 23:43
Citação de: pcssousa em 06 de Agosto de 2015, 22:23
The fifth Greek playing for us.
Isn't he the sixth? Machairidis, Fyssas, Karagounis, Katsouranis, Samaris and now Mitroglou.
I'm sure he's doing his best to forget the first one.
Point well taken. Anyway, i for one never forget Pesaresi. Always makes me smile and i use it as a rule of thumb. The closest one is to Pesaresi, the farther away i wish him to be in our squad.
Citação de: sagan1976 em 06 de Agosto de 2015, 23:50
Citação de: Festivus em 06 de Agosto de 2015, 23:47
Citação de: sagan1976 em 06 de Agosto de 2015, 23:43
Citação de: pcssousa em 06 de Agosto de 2015, 22:23
The fifth Greek playing for us.
Isn't he the sixth? Machairidis, Fyssas, Karagounis, Katsouranis, Samaris and now Mitroglou.
I'm sure he's doing his best to forget the first one.
Point well taken. Anyway, i for one never forget Pesaresi. Always makes me smile and i use it as a rule of thumb. The closest one is to Pesaresi, the farther away i wish him to be in our squad.
I think that of all the players that have worn our jersey since he new stadium was built, the worst ones were Paulo Almeida and Roderick Miranda. Djaló is up there too.
Citação de: Festivus em 06 de Agosto de 2015, 23:52
Citação de: sagan1976 em 06 de Agosto de 2015, 23:50
Citação de: Festivus em 06 de Agosto de 2015, 23:47
Citação de: sagan1976 em 06 de Agosto de 2015, 23:43
Citação de: pcssousa em 06 de Agosto de 2015, 22:23
The fifth Greek playing for us.
Isn't he the sixth? Machairidis, Fyssas, Karagounis, Katsouranis, Samaris and now Mitroglou.
I'm sure he's doing his best to forget the first one.
Point well taken. Anyway, i for one never forget Pesaresi. Always makes me smile and i use it as a rule of thumb. The closest one is to Pesaresi, the farther away i wish him to be in our squad.
I think that of all the players that have worn our jersey since he new stadium was built, the worst ones were Paulo Almeida and Roderick Miranda. Djaló is up there too.
I see your point. But I think Cortez should be on top.
Anyway, I tried real hard to forget Machairidis and also that season, but someone had to make remember about him... I'll have a terrible nightmare tonight.
Citação de: pcssousa em 07 de Agosto de 2015, 00:10
Citação de: Festivus em 06 de Agosto de 2015, 23:52
Citação de: sagan1976 em 06 de Agosto de 2015, 23:50
Citação de: Festivus em 06 de Agosto de 2015, 23:47
Citação de: sagan1976 em 06 de Agosto de 2015, 23:43
Citação de: pcssousa em 06 de Agosto de 2015, 22:23
The fifth Greek playing for us.
Isn't he the sixth? Machairidis, Fyssas, Karagounis, Katsouranis, Samaris and now Mitroglou.
I'm sure he's doing his best to forget the first one.
Point well taken. Anyway, i for one never forget Pesaresi. Always makes me smile and i use it as a rule of thumb. The closest one is to Pesaresi, the farther away i wish him to be in our squad.
I think that of all the players that have worn our jersey since he new stadium was built, the worst ones were Paulo Almeida and Roderick Miranda. Djaló is up there too.
I see your point. But I think Cortez should be on top.
Anyway, I tried real hard to forget Machairidis and also that season, but someone had to make remember about him... I'll have a terrible nightmare tonight.
Cortez was pretty bad too, yes. I had forgotten about him.
Citação de: pcssousa em 07 de Agosto de 2015, 00:10
Citação de: Festivus em 06 de Agosto de 2015, 23:52
Citação de: sagan1976 em 06 de Agosto de 2015, 23:50
Citação de: Festivus em 06 de Agosto de 2015, 23:47
Citação de: sagan1976 em 06 de Agosto de 2015, 23:43
Citação de: pcssousa em 06 de Agosto de 2015, 22:23
The fifth Greek playing for us.
Isn't he the sixth? Machairidis, Fyssas, Karagounis, Katsouranis, Samaris and now Mitroglou.
I'm sure he's doing his best to forget the first one.
Point well taken. Anyway, i for one never forget Pesaresi. Always makes me smile and i use it as a rule of thumb. The closest one is to Pesaresi, the farther away i wish him to be in our squad.
I think that of all the players that have worn our jersey since he new stadium was built, the worst ones were Paulo Almeida and Roderick Miranda. Djaló is up there too.
I see your point. But I think Cortez should be on top.
Anyway, I tried real hard to forget Machairidis and also that season, but someone had to make remember about him... I'll have a terrible nightmare tonight.
I don't even know who he is. :confused: Nor do I want to.. :)
I'm glad that back in those days I was just a kid...I mean, the first Benfica title since my birth was a Portuguese Cup when I was almost 8 yo...
Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Agosto de 2015, 19:42
It is ^^. And Samaris and Mitroglou will offer Benfica far more than the two previous Greeks did.
Don't know...
Karagounis was great. One of my favourite players :)
Citação de: SousaLB em 07 de Agosto de 2015, 02:52
Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Agosto de 2015, 19:42
It is ^^. And Samaris and Mitroglou will offer Benfica far more than the two previous Greeks did.
Don't know...
Karagounis was great. One of my favourite players :)
Faliro dislike. Karagounis is too much green...
So how many strikers do you have now and in what order of ability?
Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Agosto de 2015, 14:51
So how many strikers do you have now and in what order of ability?
Jonas
Mitroglou
Jimenez
Jonathan Rodriguez
Nélson Oliveira- but he is going to be sold or loaned
Jiménez is probably better than Mitroglou.
3-1 :metal:
wrong topic ;D
Any indication of the line-up from training for tonight?
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Agosto de 2015, 08:28
Any indication of the line-up from training for tonight?
One thing is for sure: Talisca and Ola John will play.
We need to sell them, so they'll have plenty of playing time until the 31st of August.
Citação de: Gottschalk em 16 de Agosto de 2015, 18:08
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Agosto de 2015, 08:28
Any indication of the line-up from training for tonight?
One thing is for sure: Talisca and Ola John will play.
We need to sell them, so they'll have plenty of playing time until the 31st of August.
I don't think Talisca is going anywhere. He's waaaaaaaay too green still.
MITRO !!!! :metal:
I believe I saw a Greek flag in the stands after Mitro's goal.
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Agosto de 2015, 22:29
I believe I saw a Greek flag in the stands after Mitro's goal.
(http://i.imgur.com/PlaPnqs.jpg)
I told you guys, you leave him on long enough he will most likely score. This is a player you do not substitute out. :estrelas: Remember also I said Mitroglou and Samaris are superior players to the Katsou Karagounis combo.
Happy for him and happy for Benfica.
Anyone got a video?
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Agosto de 2015, 23:43
I told you guys, you leave him on long enough he will most likely score. This is a player you do not substitute out. :estrelas: Remember also I said Mitroglou and Samaris are superior players to the Katsou Karagounis combo.
Happy for him and happy for Benfica.
Anyone got a video?
He had some physical problem that's why he was substituted.
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Agosto de 2015, 23:43
I told you guys, you leave him on long enough he will most likely score. This is a player you do not substitute out. :estrelas: Remember also I said Mitroglou and Samaris are superior players to the Katsou Karagounis combo.
Happy for him and happy for Benfica.
Anyone got a video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBHFltW-gA0#t=70
Citação de: cipri_slb em 16 de Agosto de 2015, 22:47
Citação de: Festivus em 16 de Agosto de 2015, 22:29
I believe I saw a Greek flag in the stands after Mitro's goal.
(http://i.imgur.com/PlaPnqs.jpg)
Was already there last season...and at the BTV stand there is a serbian flag, also...
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Agosto de 2015, 23:43
I told you guys, you leave him on long enough he will most likely score. This is a player you do not substitute out. :estrelas: Remember also I said Mitroglou and Samaris are superior players to the Katsou Karagounis combo.
Happy for him and happy for Benfica.
Anyone got a video?
Samaris did not play today. Fejsa played instead.
Faliro, any news in the greek press/sites about Mitroglu goal?
Yip. Made the news in Greece, I am sure everyone was happy to see him start with a goal.
Bottom left:
(http://resources.sport-fm.gr/sportfm/newspapers/15/08/17/fostonsport.jpg)
Mitroglou to start next game?
Touching message from Mitroglou to Michel on his new job:
http://www.gavros.gr/content/football/105885-egkwmia-mhtrogloy-gia-mitsel
How was the game tonight? Thoughts?
Citação de: Faliro em 23 de Agosto de 2015, 21:24
How was the game tonight? Thoughts?
I wanted to cry.
Citação de: Faliro em 23 de Agosto de 2015, 21:24
How was the game tonight? Thoughts?
Just too bad to be true.
Citação de: Faliro em 23 de Agosto de 2015, 21:24
How was the game tonight? Thoughts?
Thinking about booking next flight to Athens and propose a manager swap with Olympiacos.
This one will be better business for greek restaurants, Marco Silva said yesterday in A Bola that he only ate salads so far.
Citação de: Bryan. em 23 de Agosto de 2015, 21:45
Citação de: Faliro em 23 de Agosto de 2015, 21:24
How was the game tonight? Thoughts?
Thinking about booking next flight to Athens and propose a manager swap with Olympiacos.
This one will be better business for greek restaurants, Marco Silva said yesterday in A Bola that he only ate salads so far.
Many refined Europeans fear greek food and rightly so. Some of the restaurants are not that good. However if you use common sense and learn to read a restaurant's environment before you enter - you can eat well.
Player ratings?
I was kidding. It was not what he meant. He said that he didn't had any difficulty adapting to life in Greece and that him and his family had eaten mostly salads so far because it's so hot.
Citação de: Faliro em 23 de Agosto de 2015, 22:50
Player ratings?
Júlio César 7
Nélson Semedo 3
Luisão 3
Lisandro 4
Eliseu 5
Samaris 8
Pizzi 4
Ola John 3
Gaitán 5
Mitroglou 5
Jonas 5
...
Victor Andrade 6
Carcela 4
Raúl Jimenez -- (subbed in at the end, barely touched the ball)
Samaris was very good. Way better than Fejsa was last week. But most of the forum disagrees with me apparently.
Mitroglou was dangerous in the air but had very little ball. Because we have a terrible coach but also because he is too god damn slow at the moment. But his touches were good.
Citação de: Bryan. em 23 de Agosto de 2015, 23:00
Citação de: Faliro em 23 de Agosto de 2015, 22:50
Player ratings?
Júlio César 7
Nélson Semedo 3
Luisão 3
Lisandro 4
Eliseu 5
Samaris 8
Pizzi 4
Ola John 3
Gaitán 5
Mitroglou 5
Jonas 5
...
Victor Andrade 6
Carcela 4
Raúl Jimenez -- (subbed in at the end, barely touched the ball)
Samaris was very good. Way better than Fejsa was last week. But most of the forum disagrees with me apparently.
Mitroglou was dangerous in the air but had very little ball. Because we have a terrible coach but also because he is too god damn slow at the moment. But his touches were good.
Semedo best of the 4 in the back.
Luisão by far the worst.
Andrade was selfish. Not a 6...
I don't know if this discussion is going on at the main forum because I didn't wanna read but Semedo is clearly to blame for the goal.
Luisão could do better but because he was the one next to the ball, the entire back-line should've adjusted to his position.
So although he was the one putting Roberto onside, it's not his fault. Semedo should've read the play and close in the middle, instead of leaving that space between him and Luisão.
Benfica needs three "reforcos" for their starting lineup or we are going to have a crappy year. Eliseu is garbage.. slow,sloppy and isnt the greatest at attacking. Pizzi is not a central midfielder and we need someone who can link our team together.. there is no way possible that samaris which is our cdm was doing way more passes than pizzi which was only passing the ball to the sides instead of taking on the game and being the organizer.. and then theres another winger especially if gaitan goes...
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Any Benfiquistas want to educate some Greeks on what Porto did to your league?
http://forums.phantis.com/topic/14652-rival-teams/page-3
Feel free to join up and teach them.
Possible lineup for tonight?
Citação de: Faliro em 29 de Agosto de 2015, 14:53
Possible lineup for tonight?
Júlio César
Nelson Semedo
Lisandro Lopez
Luisão
Eliseu
Samaris
Pizzi
Ola John
Gaitan
Mitroglou
Jonas
I thought Talisca had a fairly good season last season. What happened that he doesn't start now?
Citação de: Faliro em 29 de Agosto de 2015, 21:30
I thought Talisca had a fairly good season last season. What happened that he doesn't start now?
He's very irregular. Has a great shot, other than that he only ruins our plays.
PS: Worst manager in the last 30 years, nothing new here.
Benfica this season is a disgrace.
3-2 sounds like a ride guys!
How was it? Player ratings?
Videos?
Citação de: Faliro em 29 de Agosto de 2015, 22:45
3-2 sounds like a ride guys!
How was it? Player ratings?
Videos?
Everyone was shit again. Can't remember a better word to describe it,just shit.
We won't win anything this season and it will be another shameful Champions League campaign.
Wow, well coming back to 3-2 shows at least some character, no?
Citação de: Faliro em 29 de Agosto de 2015, 22:54
Wow, well coming back to 3-2 shows at least some character, no?
Not quite. Just shows how poor Moreirense is.
Citação de: Benfiquista_de_1ª em 29 de Agosto de 2015, 23:29
Citação de: Faliro em 29 de Agosto de 2015, 22:54
Wow, well coming back to 3-2 shows at least some character, no?
No. Just shows how poor Moreirense is.
True, this season is going to lead me to a depression.
How is this shit even possible? Incredible how weak Rui Vitória is.
Well Marco Silva is not yet the finished the article - was a hard win against levadiakos.. so you must look elsewhere (in case your usual Benfica technical team are reading.. :-X)
Gaitán already has 4 assists, more than 50% of our goals came from him. Even when he's not having a good game he always makes the difference...
Benfica's collective doesn't exist. Our tactic relies on crosses, good 'ol kick and rush...
Cracking header from Jimenez, Samaris with a stunning shot and Jonas with a superb volley. The only real highlights from the game, beautiful goals.
Marco Silva wouldn't solve all our problems. He's not at that level yet.
That is right Benfiquista.. at least two years (Benfica technical team hear that? I said 2 years.. don't come knocking on our door in January - he is not ready.. he has not even been chased by vazelos screaming fans at Leoforo yet..)
Citação de: Faliro em 29 de Agosto de 2015, 23:54
That is right Benfiquista.. at least two years (Benfica technical team hear that? I said 2 years.. don't come knocking on our door in January - he is not ready.. he has not even been chased by vazelos screaming fans at Leoforo yet..)
I'm not certain by I think there was a clause in his agreement with sporting that prevents him from managing either us or porto in the next few years. No reasons to be worried.
I hope he does well there. I was a bit disappointed with the type of football I saw from him at sporting,after really enjoying to watch Estoril play. So,I just want to see what he does next to take further conclusions.
On another note,just seen your first goal today :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
And the second was lucky aswell. Anyway,6 points and already 2 ahead of AEK
Both goals was lucky, but Milo's was truly bizarre. It seems the power of the defenders clearence created the pace that the shot had off Milo's foot.. :crazy2:
Citação de: Faliro em 30 de Agosto de 2015, 00:07
Both goals was lucky, but Milo's was truly bizarre. It seems the power of the defenders clearence created the pace that the shot had off Milo's foot.. :crazy2:
Do you have any link to watch the highlights of your league?
Surreal Olympiacos goals today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzAC_WCyfkE
A place where there should be highlights.
http://www.novasports.gr/web-tv/on-demand/categories/filter/13/super-league/
Anyone got the Benfica goals??
http://videos.sapo.pt/gRUesbMC5bodf5YqpOAn
I saw the second goal of Mitroglou, he seems to be getting used to Benfica.
Citação de: Faliro em 11 de Setembro de 2015, 22:09
I saw the second goal of Mitroglou, he seems to be getting used to Benfica.
Him, Jonas and Nico trashed Belenenses. If these 3 get along...
Call an ambulance..
Dragão next week.
I watched a little of the second half. He is still not at full pace. If he trains and works hard he will approach full fitness. That is when he becomes a real pain for defenders and scores for fun. He had that form before his knee injury and he was scoring in every game, CL, league, international...
Pure Mitroglicerine!
How was Samaris?
Citação de: Faliro em 12 de Setembro de 2015, 00:06
How was Samaris?
Good,as everyone else. Good result and assured performance but Belenenses were awful.
I saw Sa Pinto.. its is a face and look you don't forget quickly - must be the nobility..
Citação de: Faliro em 12 de Setembro de 2015, 00:14
I saw Sa Pinto.. its is a face and look you don't forget quickly - must be the nobility..
Sá Pinto and nobility? No way my friend! :rir: :rir: :rir: :2funny:
Citação de: Faliro em 12 de Setembro de 2015, 00:14
I saw Sa Pinto.. its is a face and look you don't forget quickly - must be the nobility..
Richard Lionheart for you.
(http://s27.postimg.org/7daose0mr/liedson.jpg)
(http://s14.postimg.org/qzzhosu41/Artur_Jorge.jpg)
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/cm_ao_minuto/detalhe/agressoes_na_festa_da_filha.html
http://expresso.sapo.pt/desporto/sa-pinto-coracao-de-leao=f559286
Any ideas on the lineup?
Citação de: Faliro em 15 de Setembro de 2015, 13:55
Any ideas on the lineup?
It will be the same line up used with Belenenses.
Any good links, sopcast?
Mitroglou <3
Tough loss.
True. :(
Maxi is a son of a bitch.
Maicon and Soares a dias too.
The two "kids" from B squad were the best ones.
Mitroglou needs to put some oil on this head to increase accuracy on his header shots. :disgust:
Fair result or was there some funny business on the pitch?
Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Setembro de 2015, 16:51
Fair result or was there some funny business on the pitch?
A mixture of the two.
Porto with 2 red cards that weren't given and a bad second half from us.
Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Setembro de 2015, 16:51
Fair result or was there some funny business on the pitch?
(http://giant.gfycat.com/HeartfeltSatisfiedKillifish.gif)
(https://static.dyp.im/S5nvOkLNZs/5984fad4117b7cb6010ad3cd9e85f31a.gif)
This is Porto.
My goodness how good was Nolito yesterday?
Citação de: Faliro em 24 de Setembro de 2015, 09:14
My goodness how good was Nolito yesterday?
Scored an amazing goal.
Citação de: Faliro em 24 de Setembro de 2015, 09:14
My goodness how good was Nolito yesterday?
Jorge Judas dislikes this.
:crazy2:
Now it's all in our hands.
Benfica-Olympiakos in the final !!! What do you say,Faliro? :smokin:
One of the biggest Benfica wins of this century.
That says everything.
Citação de: Benfiquista_de_1ª em 30 de Setembro de 2015, 22:58
Benfica-Olympiakos in the final !!! What do you say,Faliro? :smokin:
I say a group of around 20 of us who regularly post to each other on this forum book hotels and transport together and drink until we don't know we are even in Milan anymore. :smokin:
Citação de: Faliro em 30 de Setembro de 2015, 23:19
Citação de: Benfiquista_de_1ª em 30 de Setembro de 2015, 22:58
Benfica-Olympiakos in the final !!! What do you say,Faliro? :smokin:
I say a group of around 20 of us who regularly post to each other on this forum book hotels and transport together and drink until we don't know we are even in Milan anymore. :smokin:
No thanks. I could see Benfica of all teams fucking up and losing the final to Olympiakos. And then we'd have to request the staff to permaban you just to avoid an internal war here.
How good a coach would you rate Paulo Bento?
Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Outubro de 2015, 17:14
How good a coach would you rate Paulo Bento?
In a scale from 0 to 100, I rate him -1.
(https://i.imgflip.com/s6jce.jpg)
He's very mediocre, imo. You need someone with balls that put those holy cows to rest and bets on youngsters. Otherwise it's a downward spiral.
Schuster agreed to be our coach and everything was done in Athens, but then the head of the EPO Girtzikis - insisted he take Tsanas (a nobody) as his assistant. Schuster had already selected his own assistant - a Greek German with plenty of experience inside and outside Greece called Stamatopoulos. EPO said it was Tsanas or no one - so Schuster got on a plane and went back to Germany.
The reason the EPO forced Tsanas on Schuster is to do with corruption and selling NT caps. Of course Schuster did not want such a corrupt puppet by his side so he left.
So therefore in Greece - Tsanas - whose highlight was playing for Levadiakos and managing Athinaikos is worth more than Schuster - who was willing to take a 2 million pay cut to coach us.
Paulo Bento isn't that bad.
Better than Santos.
Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Outubro de 2015, 17:14
How good a coach would you rate Paulo Bento?
Meh. He usually starts well, but as time goes on his teams get worse and the locker room more and more toxic.
Toxic dressing rooms.. He will feel at home in Greece. All it takes is someone to use someone else's deodorant and vendettas are formed.
:knuppel2:
Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Outubro de 2015, 21:17
Toxic dressing rooms.. He will feel at home in Greece. All it takes is someone to use someone else's deodorant and vendettas are formed.
:knuppel2:
Funnily enough, he loves using the word "tranquility". Get ready to hear it 5 times per interview and press conference.
Too much to translate but you get the idea:
(http://kourkouti.sport24.gr/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/kourkouti-facebook-adwnis-gewrgiadis-ypopsifios.jpg)
Citação de: Faliro em 09 de Outubro de 2015, 14:31
Too much to translate but you get the idea:
(http://kourkouti.sport24.gr/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/kourkouti-facebook-adwnis-gewrgiadis-ypopsifios.jpg)
Didnt understand anything, but I laughed to hard. :)
Your two Hellenic Benfica boys starting against Hungary a 5pm. Both playing in the Karaiskaki, they will probably put some effort.
http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuro/qualifiers/season=2016/matches/live/index.html?day=10&session=1&match=2014053
Mitrogoal! :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nlHbzqOPCw
All goals in Portuguese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlUfPolbdhY
(http://www.sport24.gr/incoming/article3713080.ece/BINARY/w620/GREECE.jpg)
Citação de: Faliro em 11 de Outubro de 2015, 21:25
(http://www.sport24.gr/incoming/article3713080.ece/BINARY/w620/GREECE.jpg)
Tomorrow, Portugal U21 will play against Greece. Is Greece U21 a good team? How do you rate them?
They used to be one of the best of in Europe. Usually a lot bigger physically than the other Under 21 sides. ATM - like most things in Greece, they are not too serious.
I have an interesting player from the Under 19 for Benfica - but this time I charge! :2funny:
You let ISIS beat you tonight? What the hell happened? :huh:
Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Outubro de 2015, 21:37
You let ISIS beat you tonight? What the hell happened? :huh:
Luís Filipe Ferreira Vieira happened.
And Eliseu, Almeida, Pizzi and Sílvio too.
Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Outubro de 2015, 21:37
You let ISIS beat you tonight? What the hell happened? :huh:
We couldn't control the game after the 0-1.
1- Simply put, our 2 wing backs, for different reasons, don't have enough quality to play at this level. Their positioning is a fucking joke and they can't seem to make good decisions offensively. I urge you to look at the 2nd turk goal and see how easy Podolsky appears in front of Julio César while Eliseu seems to be worried about the opposing midfielder (?)
2- Very weak bench: Pizzi has been playing like a u-17 lately and Victor Andrade was simply scared shit, too nervous to do anything right.
Also, Almeida made a very foolish Penalty (second time he does this shit, after Madrid...)
What.A.Disaster. :estrelas:
I thought Mitro would start this one.
very shameful loss against sportinaikos lisbon.
#wewantmarcosilva :tomates:
Don't worry benfiquistas. The real Panathinaikos lost today 3-1 against PAOK. That is right - PAOK. A team that can't pass, attack or pressurize.
That is the equivalent of a your 90 year old grandma beating you in a arm wrestling match. Hopefully this makes you feel better..
(http://www.sport24.gr/Columns/giannis-seretis/article3738581.ece/BINARY/w620/1333730.jpg)
Citação de: Faliro em 25 de Outubro de 2015, 22:25
Don't worry benfiquistas. The real Panathinaikos lost today 3-1 against PAOK. That is right - PAOK. A team that can't pass, attack or pressurize.
That is the equivalent of a your 90 year old grandma beating you in a arm wrestling match. Hopefully this makes you feel better..
(http://www.sport24.gr/Columns/giannis-seretis/article3738581.ece/BINARY/w620/1333730.jpg)
It doesn't... Shit happens and in football some mistakes lead to it.
Citação de: pcssousa em 25 de Outubro de 2015, 22:39
Citação de: Faliro em 25 de Outubro de 2015, 22:25
Don't worry benfiquistas. The real Panathinaikos lost today 3-1 against PAOK. That is right - PAOK. A team that can't pass, attack or pressurize.
That is the equivalent of a your 90 year old grandma beating you in a arm wrestling match. Hopefully this makes you feel better..
(http://www.sport24.gr/Columns/giannis-seretis/article3738581.ece/BINARY/w620/1333730.jpg)
It doesn't... Shit happens and in football some mistakes lead to it.
I find it best to dig up the grave of a result. At least I find it pleasurable and cathartic my friend. With hindsight, what lineup should have Benfica fielded today?
Citação de: Faliro em 25 de Outubro de 2015, 22:46
Citação de: pcssousa em 25 de Outubro de 2015, 22:39
Citação de: Faliro em 25 de Outubro de 2015, 22:25
Don't worry benfiquistas. The real Panathinaikos lost today 3-1 against PAOK. That is right - PAOK. A team that can't pass, attack or pressurize.
That is the equivalent of a your 90 year old grandma beating you in a arm wrestling match. Hopefully this makes you feel better..
(http://www.sport24.gr/Columns/giannis-seretis/article3738581.ece/BINARY/w620/1333730.jpg)
It doesn't... Shit happens and in football some mistakes lead to it.
I find it best to dig up the grave of a result. At least I find it pleasurable and cathartic my friend. With hindsight, what lineup should have Benfica fielded today?
Honestly? Not about the lineup, everything about the coach and his lack of ideas. Even with eleven Messis we have lost today...
This is our worst defeat at home against them... Ever! Knowing their fans like I do, they will be celebrating this days in the next 20 years, at least.
Yup.
It's all about lack of ideas.
We had a highly mecanized team with Jesus, a master in the training ground. Our new coach doesn't think the training ground stuff is very important.
This Rui Vitória team is a complete mess who relies only on individual talent.
It's gonna be a tough year.
Any highlights?
Citação de: Faliro em 30 de Outubro de 2015, 23:20
Any highlights?
15min of Renato Sanches >>> All season of Yaya Talisca
I mean of the audio-visual type.. ::)
Citação de: Faliro em 30 de Outubro de 2015, 23:20
Any highlights?
http://www.fullmatchesandshows.com/2015/10/30/tondela-vs-benfica-highlights/
Just the goals. There wasn't much more in it anyway.
We probably played against the worst team in the history of the first division in Portugal.
Great victory against Galatasaray :)
http://m.imgur.com/tTyMR6G
Crazy skills.
Kosta back in the 11 against Boavista?
http://www.sport24.gr/football/omades/Iraklis/pane-lissavwna-ston-hraklh.3765558.html
:huh:
Citação de: Faliro em 11 de Novembro de 2015, 01:56
http://www.sport24.gr/football/omades/Iraklis/pane-lissavwna-ston-hraklh.3765558.html
:huh:
Faliro... That's greek. Translate, please. :D
Sorry, I always assume everyone uses Google Translate. ;D
It basically says that the owner of Iraklis is going to meet with Benfica to create some sort of cooperation between the clubs - perhaps to see if Benfica wants to offload any of its players.
Citação de: Faliro em 11 de Novembro de 2015, 11:27
Sorry, I always assume everyone uses Google Translate. ;D
It basically says that the owner of Iraklis is going to meet with Benfica to create some sort of cooperation between the clubs - perhaps to see if Benfica wants to offload any of its players.
That would be awesome. We have a lot of dead weight in the team. Hope that LFV accepts it.
http://web3.cmvm.pt/sdi/emitentes/docs/FR57921.pdf
Who won the pens?
Great goal by Renato.
Citação de: Faliro em 04 de Dezembro de 2015, 22:01
Who won the pens?
Both made by Academica players. :rir:
Citação de: Festivus em 04 de Dezembro de 2015, 22:38
Great goal by Renato.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjJogkwr4QQ
No strikers in the starting 11?
Delete.
Citação de: Faliro em 08 de Dezembro de 2015, 20:59
No strikers in the starting 11?
Jonas started with Guedes behind him.
Then Mitro and Jimenez played in the 2nd half.
We're in deep shit, basically.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wzILwNJvLc
Watch this Faliro, millions have already seen it.
After the video was shot the kids got full kits from Benfica.
Very moving.
Would you say atm Mitroglou is established as a bench player for Benfica?
Citação de: Faliro em 10 de Janeiro de 2016, 15:45
Would you say atm Mitroglou is established as a bench player for Benfica?
I would, Vitória doesn´t seem to know how to use his qualities properly, so he benched him.
Maybe. But it's still a toss up between him and Jiménez. Atm yeah, Jiménez is in front but in a few weeks he might not be.
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/12540682_801089160017633_5762062678349801178_n.jpg?oh=d50e801741db248f55c02405462ae8b7&oe=570E0E0B)
Tugão!
Mitroglicerine solves again.
Mitro! Mitro!
We're in the fight!
Citação de: Cloughie em 16 de Janeiro de 2016, 22:47
Mitro! Mitro!
We're in the fight!
It`s becoming unbearable to watch Mitroglou on the beach. It`s a crime against humanity. Today we were losing 1-0 at half time and Mitroglou got in for the second half and scored the first goal the was crucial for the turnaround! We won 2-1.
Have a nice weekend Faliro!
Citação de: lost_paradise em 16 de Janeiro de 2016, 22:59
Citação de: Cloughie em 16 de Janeiro de 2016, 22:47
Mitro! Mitro!
We're in the fight!
It`s becoming unbearable to watch Mitroglou on the beach. It`s a crime against humanity. Today we were losing 1-0 at half time and Mitroglou got in for the second half and scored the first goal the was crucial for the turnaround! We won 2-1.
Have a nice weekend Faliro!
But this is not beach soccer. :tomates:
Citação de: Cloughie em 16 de Janeiro de 2016, 23:02
Citação de: lost_paradise em 16 de Janeiro de 2016, 22:59
Citação de: Cloughie em 16 de Janeiro de 2016, 22:47
Mitro! Mitro!
We're in the fight!
It`s becoming unbearable to watch Mitroglou on the beach. It`s a crime against humanity. Today we were losing 1-0 at half time and Mitroglou got in for the second half and scored the first goal the was crucial for the turnaround! We won 2-1.
Have a nice weekend Faliro!
But this is not beach soccer. :tomates:
I was like, "wtf is he talking" for about 10 seconds. Yeah, im typing really fast, so there`s a always a good chance for something like this. Bench*.
Although, our manager drinks more water than a old man on the beach at midday...so there`s a connection right there. Freudian slip.
Mitro is God
I saw on livescore that he came on 2nd half so watched the game from there and saw his goal. He is a tank in the area, hard to mark. Hopefully he can build from here.
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Janeiro de 2016, 23:36
I saw on livescore that he came on 2nd half so watched the game from there and saw his goal. He is a tank in the area, hard to mark. Hopefully he can build from here.
2nd best scorer of Benfica on the league... and he's a sub of the awful Jimenez... that is what we technically call a "cepo".
How many goals in the league does kostas officially have?
Citação de: Solid em 17 de Janeiro de 2016, 01:30
(http://abload.de/img/1mitroglougoloptomt.gif) (http://abload.de/img/1mitroglougolofestejot6q4h.gif)
(http://abload.de/img/1mitroglougolofestejor5reo.gif) (http://abload.de/img/1mitroglougolofestejou1pps.gif)
(http://abload.de/img/1mitroglougoloreplaydqrmv.gif) (http://abload.de/img/1mitroglougoloreplay2qtr0x.gif)
(http://abload.de/img/1mitroglougoloreplay39wqd4.gif) (http://abload.de/img/1mitroglougoloreplay46trn7.gif)
Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Janeiro de 2016, 01:50
How many goals in the league does kostas officially have?
6 goals, i think.
Citação de: Cloughie em 16 de Janeiro de 2016, 23:02
Citação de: lost_paradise em 16 de Janeiro de 2016, 22:59
Citação de: Cloughie em 16 de Janeiro de 2016, 22:47
Mitro! Mitro!
We're in the fight!
It`s becoming unbearable to watch Mitroglou on the beach. It`s a crime against humanity. Today we were losing 1-0 at half time and Mitroglou got in for the second half and scored the first goal the was crucial for the turnaround! We won 2-1.
Have a nice weekend Faliro!
But this is not beach soccer. :tomates:
Maybe he was talking about Teo Gutierrez.
Citação de: 20simao1 em 17 de Janeiro de 2016, 04:15
Citação de: Cloughie em 16 de Janeiro de 2016, 23:02
Citação de: lost_paradise em 16 de Janeiro de 2016, 22:59
Citação de: Cloughie em 16 de Janeiro de 2016, 22:47
Mitro! Mitro!
We're in the fight!
It`s becoming unbearable to watch Mitroglou on the beach. It`s a crime against humanity. Today we were losing 1-0 at half time and Mitroglou got in for the second half and scored the first goal the was crucial for the turnaround! We won 2-1.
Have a nice weekend Faliro!
But this is not beach soccer. :tomates:
Maybe he was talking about Teo Gutierrez.
Teo plays beer pong.
Citação de: Cloughie em 17 de Janeiro de 2016, 04:06
Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Janeiro de 2016, 01:50
How many goals in the league does kostas officially have?
6 goals, i think.
Yeah. 9 goals in all competitions.
http://www.zerozero.pt/player.php?id=40425 (http://www.zerozero.pt/player.php?id=40425)
Is this real? :bah2:
(http://resources.sport-fm.gr/supersportFM/images/news/16/01/23/223417.jpg?w=880&f=bicubic)
Citação de: Faliro em 23 de Janeiro de 2016, 21:51
Is this real? :bah2:
(http://resources.sport-fm.gr/supersportFM/images/news/16/01/23/223417.jpg?w=880&f=bicubic)
Yes.
Citação de: Faliro em 23 de Janeiro de 2016, 21:51
Is this real? :bah2:
(http://resources.sport-fm.gr/supersportFM/images/news/16/01/23/223417.jpg?w=880&f=bicubic)
Yes, and I agree.
A "golo do caralho" by Mitroglou. :)
Yep, I think Mitroglou's got the starting spot now.
https://twitter.com/InformGlorious/status/693887628576473090
Typical Mitroglou goal, loves these types of balls across the area.
Mitro Gol Gol Gol !!! :metal: :metal: :metal: :metal:
Another "golo do caralho" by Gangsta-Glou! :metal:
Citação de: Faliro em 31 de Janeiro de 2016, 21:17
Typical Mitroglou goal, loves these types of balls across the area.
4 goals in the last 5 games he played.
We are finally playing decent atacking football as a team that can feed him the ball, in a proper way, inside the box.
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8Ni4I2PBkVw/VcMRo6-Ve1I/AAAAAAAAUi4/OAa5MLO-vIA/s1600/Mitroglou%2Bno%2BBenfica.jpg)
In portuguese we say:
Que exibição do caralho by Gangsta-glou!
Our boy did good tonight eh?
Citação de: Cloughie em 05 de Fevereiro de 2016, 22:49
In portuguese we say:
Que exibição do caralho by Gangsta-glou!
Let`s do an update for our friend Faliro.
Mitro scored a hattrick tonight against Belenenses. So it`s 7 goals in the last 6 games he played.
A week from today, in next friday, it`s the
clássico Benfica-Porto. It`s destined to be: He`s scoring in that game and begin to climb the olympus of Benfica legendary status.
Have a nice weekend!
See the 3-0 and the work of Mitro.
So fucking good! :bow2:
Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Fevereiro de 2016, 22:58
Our boy did good tonight eh?
None of his goals tonight were amazing , but this set up is really nice:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47o5VAuTo4o
Here you can see all the goals:
https://vimeo.com/154374781
Just a little explanation, as you may ask yourself the reason for the soundtrack is being used. This video was made by the user dfernandes with a vintage music, that was often used in the early 90`s in Portugal football VHS tapes.
Nostalgic in the modern football.
Must be the first Greek to score a hat-trick in Portugal.
You might have heard already that we lost.
Mitro scored and then had a couple of really bad failures. One of them was really frustrating, but unlike the rest, he managed to score a goal. It was one of those games where none of our shots got in the goal. But that wasn't the only reason we lost.
I watched the second half live. Was like a nightmare unfolding. I didn't have too much positive to say, so I did not comment.
Citação de: Faliro em 13 de Fevereiro de 2016, 17:27
I watched the second half live. Was like a nightmare unfolding. I didn't have too much positive to say, so I did not comment.
Our second half was pretty bad. And it got atrocious after conceding the second goal. Also, Rui Vitória seemed to lose control of the situation and made bad substitutions.
:flagglorioso:
John Ass Pistols :bow2:
PYRO IS NOT A CRIME :metal:
Mitroglou is pounding more ass in Portugal than Tomás Taveira!
:smokin:
Citação de: Faliro em 20 de Fevereiro de 2016, 20:16
Mitroglou is pounding more ass in Portugal than Tomás Taveira!
:smokin:
How the fuck do you know about Tomás Taveira?! :2funny:
Citação de: Faliro em 20 de Fevereiro de 2016, 20:16
Mitroglou is pounding more ass in Portugal than Tomás Taveira!
:smokin:
Your cultural understanding of this country is remarkable.
Faliro is familiar with the myth of portuguese porn! :bow2:
:metal: :metal: :metal: :metal:
Citação de: Faliro em 20 de Fevereiro de 2016, 20:16
Mitroglou is pounding more ass in Portugal than Tomás Taveira!
:smokin:
Citação de: Faliro em 20 de Fevereiro de 2016, 20:16
Mitroglou is pounding more ass in Portugal than Tomás Taveira!
:smokin:
:rir:
Citação de: Festivus em 20 de Fevereiro de 2016, 20:17
Citação de: Faliro em 20 de Fevereiro de 2016, 20:16
Mitroglou is pounding more ass in Portugal than Tomás Taveira!
:smokin:
How the fuck do you know about Tomás Taveira?! :2funny:
He is an important stadium architect amongst other things, read about him and discovered his office habits! Checked out xvideos and.. :bow2:
Citação de: Faliro em 20 de Fevereiro de 2016, 21:04
Citação de: Festivus em 20 de Fevereiro de 2016, 20:17
Citação de: Faliro em 20 de Fevereiro de 2016, 20:16
Mitroglou is pounding more ass in Portugal than Tomás Taveira!
:smokin:
How the fuck do you know about Tomás Taveira?! :2funny:
He is an important stadium architect amongst other things, read about him and discovered his office habits! Checked out xvideos and.. :bow2:
:rir:
Citação de: Faliro em 20 de Fevereiro de 2016, 21:04
Citação de: Festivus em 20 de Fevereiro de 2016, 20:17
Citação de: Faliro em 20 de Fevereiro de 2016, 20:16
Mitroglou is pounding more ass in Portugal than Tomás Taveira!
:smokin:
How the fuck do you know about Tomás Taveira?! :2funny:
He is an important stadium architect amongst other things, read about him and discovered his office habits! Checked out xvideos and.. :bow2:
Are you familiar with the sentence: "Look, he's all inside in the darling's ass"?
Since when Portugal is knowned by porn? :P
For me, the best portuguese act in porn industry was the golden whistle. :whistle2:
Citação de: Faliro em 20 de Fevereiro de 2016, 21:04
Citação de: Festivus em 20 de Fevereiro de 2016, 20:17
Citação de: Faliro em 20 de Fevereiro de 2016, 20:16
Mitroglou is pounding more ass in Portugal than Tomás Taveira!
:smokin:
How the fuck do you know about Tomás Taveira?! :2funny:
He is an important stadium architect amongst other things, read about him and discovered his office habits! Checked out xvideos and.. :bow2:
OMG, epic!!!! :2funny:
Citação de: Faliro em 20 de Fevereiro de 2016, 20:16
Mitroglou is pounding more ass in Portugal than Tomás Taveira!
:smokin:
Post of The Year, my friend.
Citação de: Faliro em 20 de Fevereiro de 2016, 20:16
Mitroglou is pounding more ass in Portugal than Tomás Taveira!
:smokin:
:2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Taveira's porn is more famous worldwide than sporting lisbon, I'm sure.
Citação de: Petrov_Carmovich em 20 de Fevereiro de 2016, 21:47
Since when Portugal is knowned by porn? :P
Since Erica Fontes was one of the most searched persons in the internet
Citação de: josantiago em 21 de Fevereiro de 2016, 14:32
Citação de: Petrov_Carmovich em 20 de Fevereiro de 2016, 21:47
Since when Portugal is knowned by porn? :P
Since Erica Fontes was one of the most searched persons in the internet
She was? :huh:
Citação de: BCaldeira em 22 de Fevereiro de 2016, 14:30
Citação de: josantiago em 21 de Fevereiro de 2016, 14:32
Citação de: Petrov_Carmovich em 20 de Fevereiro de 2016, 21:47
Since when Portugal is knowned by porn? :P
Since Erica Fontes was one of the most searched persons in the internet
She was? :huh:
Which is odd since she seems like a pretty average looking pornstar. Maybe she's signed to a big label.
My life as a Benfica fan
Benfica was not the first team I supported, it was actually Liverpool. While I still watch Liverpool and definitely would like to see them succeed, I never quite felt the connection the same way I do with Benfica. I met genuine people of course and around that time Twitter was not as relevant in the beginning for football fans, so it made it harder to keep connections. I also had noticed that many fans felt a particular way towards foreign fans that was negative. Many wanted to keep the club a local club, filled with local fans. They lamented a particular section that was most used by foreign fans and often felt they were not the same fans as those born in the city. It is very much just my own experience but it always left me feeling like an outsider, in a way that made it feel as if I did not belong.
Yet when I first began to watch Benfica in the 2009-10 season, I met and made genuine friends. When I spoke to many on websites and on twitter, it was the mere fact that I was even interested in the team that made them welcome me, even though I spoke no Portuguese, had never watched a game prior to the season, and that I was an American living so far away.
You can read the complete post here: http://americanbenfiquista.weebly.com/blog/my-life-as-a-benfica-fan
Citação de: Theroux em 23 de Fevereiro de 2016, 23:19
My life as a Benfica fan
Benfica was not the first team I supported, it was actually Liverpool. While I still watch Liverpool and definitely would like to see them succeed, I never quite felt the connection the same way I do with Benfica. I met genuine people of course and around that time Twitter was not as relevant in the beginning for football fans, so it made it harder to keep connections. I also had noticed that many fans felt a particular way towards foreign fans that was negative. Many wanted to keep the club a local club, filled with local fans. They lamented a particular section that was most used by foreign fans and often felt they were not the same fans as those born in the city. It is very much just my own experience but it always left me feeling like an outsider, in a way that made it feel as if I did not belong.
Yet when I first began to watch Benfica in the 2009-10 season, I met and made genuine friends. When I spoke to many on websites and on twitter, it was the mere fact that I was even interested in the team that made them welcome me, even though I spoke no Portuguese, had never watched a game prior to the season, and that I was an American living so far away.
You can read the complete post here: http://americanbenfiquista.weebly.com/blog/my-life-as-a-benfica-fan
Qual o username dela aqui?
Não sei se anda por aqui.
Citação de: Rigters em 21 de Fevereiro de 2016, 01:10
Citação de: Faliro em 20 de Fevereiro de 2016, 21:04
Citação de: Festivus em 20 de Fevereiro de 2016, 20:17
Citação de: Faliro em 20 de Fevereiro de 2016, 20:16
Mitroglou is pounding more ass in Portugal than Tomás Taveira!
:smokin:
How the fuck do you know about Tomás Taveira?! :2funny:
He is an important stadium architect amongst other things, read about him and discovered his office habits! Checked out xvideos and.. :bow2:
OMG, epic!!!! :2funny:
:2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
"Please, don't cry. The head is going in... And... There you go! It's already in, darling! It's already in!"
Meanwhile in Portugal, Mitroglou shoving his gigantic Hellenic dong up Jesus' ass.
Because there are loves that surpasse life itself.
Because there are loves that even you feel like shit they pull you up.
Thank you, love of my life.
Thank you, Sport Lisboa e Benfica.
Huge victory and a surprising one against Sporting.
Guess who scored?
http://videos.sapo.pt/UPpMIHzwq0Krr57SVejc
The man.
back to our natural place. 1st place :flagglorioso: :flagglorioso: :flagglorioso:
Faliro, I know you love your Mitroglou montages, here you have it.
Surfing the green sea.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cc0i0lGXEAElI6b.png)
Btw, Tomás Taveira was the architect of Sporting's stadium...
Mitroglou has fucked one of Tomás Taveira's daughters.
Citação de: Festivus em 05 de Março de 2016, 23:32
Btw, Tomás Taveira was the architect of Sporting's stadium...
Mitroglou has fucked one of Tomás Taveira's daughters.
People were saying in Geral that he built such a ridiculous stadium without natural light, which caused the terrible state of that grass which caused Bryan Ruiz's failure. So, Tomás Taveira won this one for us tonight.
:2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Citação de: Bryan. em 05 de Março de 2016, 23:35
Citação de: Festivus em 05 de Março de 2016, 23:32
Btw, Tomás Taveira was the architect of Sporting's stadium...
Mitroglou has fucked one of Tomás Taveira's daughters.
People were saying in Geral that he built such a ridiculous stadium without natural light, which caused the terrible state of that grass which caused Bryan Ruiz's failure. So, Tomás Taveira won this one for us tonight.
Wait, just noticed your username is Bryan...
Shit it was the Lampionati/Lampionic State all along!
Estou muito feliz por Mitroglou e o Benfica.
Eu precisava deste gol depois da semana terrivel que o Olympiacos teve.
Thank you very much for this moment, MitroGOALS :bow2: :bow2:
Fuck the Jesus and Oaktree. In the Bathroom of White "Lade" we rule.
Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Março de 2016, 23:39
Estou muito feliz por Mitroglou e o Benfica.
Eu precisava deste gol depois da semana terrivel que o Olympiacos teve.
Always writing in Portuguese from Brazil. ::bater::
:rir: :rir: :rir:
Citação de: Cloughie em 06 de Março de 2016, 00:06
Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Março de 2016, 23:39
Estou muito feliz por Mitroglou e o Benfica.
Eu precisava deste gol depois da semana terrivel que o Olympiacos teve.
Always writing in Portuguese from Brazil. ::bater::
:rir: :rir: :rir:
A greek writing in Brazilian Portuguese and a Portuguese writing in English. Oh wright. :rir:
MITROGLOU CARALHO!!!!!!!
Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Março de 2016, 23:35
:2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Enjoy:
https://youtu.be/HzVf8zr0cWw
Citação de: Bryan. em 05 de Março de 2016, 23:31
Faliro, I know you love your Mitroglou montages, here you have it.
Surfing the green sea.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cc0i0lGXEAElI6b.png)
Citação de: sarahatesyou em 06 de Março de 2016, 00:23
Citação de: magiconumero10 em 06 de Março de 2016, 00:01
Citação de: KamikazeSLB em 05 de Março de 2016, 23:58
(http://images-cdn.impresa.pt/expresso/2016-03-05-mitroglou.jpg-1/original/mw-768)
Obrigado por este grande momento :bow2: :bow2:
O que eu festejei com este teu golo.
Conseguem meter uma metralhadora nas mãos do Mitro aqui e umas balas a perfurar o Patriciozinho tipo uma cena à "Say hello to my little friend"?!
:bow2: :rir:
isto?
(https://i.gyazo.com/24a10e423c01196d5df283a388fc0e54.png)
:bow2:
António Pedro Vasconcelos and João Botelho collaboration, (portuguese filmmakers and Benfica fans) is proud to present:
The Greek connection part II
(http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/benficas-forward-kostas-mitroglou-celebrates-with-teammate-andreas-picture-id501134020)
A sequel that makes justice to the original:
The Greek connection part I
(http://thumbs.web.sapo.io/?W=800&H=533&Q=65&pic=https%3A%2F%2Fsm1.imgs.sapo.pt%2Fmb%2Fy%2FT%2Fv%2Fop0jlZBa18hd6voB0pkTdNBA_.jpg&hash=f2f1f93bc66f3ec95d87da99fc1f95ab&errorpic=http%3A%2F%2Fassets.web.sapo.io%2Fdesporto%2Fimgs%2Fno-photo.jpg)
At a red theater near you.
MITRO :metal:
Citação de: Faliro em 20 de Fevereiro de 2016, 21:04
Citação de: Festivus em 20 de Fevereiro de 2016, 20:17
Citação de: Faliro em 20 de Fevereiro de 2016, 20:16
Mitroglou is pounding more ass in Portugal than Tomás Taveira!
:smokin:
How the fuck do you know about Tomás Taveira?! :2funny:
He is an important stadium architect amongst other things, read about him and discovered his office habits! Checked out xvideos and.. :bow2:
Taveira, The All-Time Ass Breaker Legend, reached an international level thanks to this forum! :bow2:
Perhaps that is what should be on his tomb instead of the architecture. I always found his buildings very brutalist.
This would be cool.
Tomás Taveira
The All-Time Ass Breaker Legend of Portugal (and part-time architect)
This headstone was donated by Xvideos.com
CAVACO! CAVACO! CAVACO!
Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Março de 2016, 00:06
Perhaps that is what should be on his tomb instead of the architecture. I always found his buildings very brutalist.
This would be cool.
Tomás Taveira
The All-Time Ass Breaker Legend of Portugal (and part-time architect)
This headstone was donated by Xvideos.com
(http://ainanas.com/wp-content/uploads/Untitled-390-287x150.jpg)
Citação de: Jotenko em 07 de Março de 2016, 11:29
Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Março de 2016, 00:06
Perhaps that is what should be on his tomb instead of the architecture. I always found his buildings very brutalist.
This would be cool.
Tomás Taveira
The All-Time Ass Breaker Legend of Portugal (and part-time architect)
This headstone was donated by Xvideos.com
(http://ainanas.com/wp-content/uploads/Untitled-390-287x150.jpg)
"All inside in the darling's ass" :2funny:
Faliro, our forum international super star do you know our Benfica legend Eliseu? He even has facebook page where is shown is life https://www.facebook.com/Eliseu-a-fazer-cenas-1754994371389108/?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/Eliseu-a-fazer-cenas-1754994371389108/?fref=ts)
Eliseu running away on Gta
(https://scontent.flis1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/12798833_1755764247978787_3366850057770360828_n.png?oh=e370c0681a49133fa6b6102fb56a36ad&oe=5795D2F3)
Citação de: Carolina Barata em 07 de Março de 2016, 22:04
Faliro, our forum international super star do you know our Benfica legend Eliseu? He even has facebook page where is shown is life https://www.facebook.com/Eliseu-a-fazer-cenas-1754994371389108/?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/Eliseu-a-fazer-cenas-1754994371389108/?fref=ts)
Eliseu running away on Gta
(https://scontent.flis1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/12798833_1755764247978787_3366850057770360828_n.png?oh=e370c0681a49133fa6b6102fb56a36ad&oe=5795D2F3)
:2funny:
Citação de: Carolina Barata em 07 de Março de 2016, 22:04
Faliro, our forum international super star do you know our Benfica legend Eliseu? He even has facebook page where is shown is life https://www.facebook.com/Eliseu-a-fazer-cenas-1754994371389108/?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/Eliseu-a-fazer-cenas-1754994371389108/?fref=ts)
Eliseu running away on Gta
(https://scontent.flis1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/12798833_1755764247978787_3366850057770360828_n.png?oh=e370c0681a49133fa6b6102fb56a36ad&oe=5795D2F3)
:2funny: Brilliant!!
Benfiquistas have a good sense of humour! Football in Portugal is each day becoming a patetic bullshit. With less love of the game and more folclore and hatred but a lot of Benfiquistas are cool and know to have fun.
The facebook page As minhas insonias of carvão , also does epic staff!
Check this mocking sporting president that passes his time writing about benfica on facebook
(https://49.media.tumblr.com/6bac90f90a84505e3e771d7a2a0320c9/tumblr_o3flnjZENE1tjkfe1o1_500.gif)
I love this mocking culture. ^^ A lot of this stuff has dried up in Greece the last few years. :cry2:
Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Março de 2016, 23:38
I love this mocking culture. ^^ A lot of this stuff has dried up in Greece the last few years. :cry2:
What, you guys have lost your sense of humor or something?
Kinda I guess we have. When I joined this forum, Greeks were still turning out 100s of memes and comic photoshops a week. Now the most famous blog turns out perhaps one a month - and that will simply be a facebook conversation photoshop.
http://kourkouti.sport24.gr/
Perhaps the crisis has taken away that extra bit of cash they would give to those who would sell photoshop jokes? :confused:
Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Março de 2016, 23:45
Kinda I guess we have. When I joined this forum, Greeks were still turning out 100s of memes and comic photoshops a week. Now the most famous blog turns out perhaps one a month - and that will simply be a facebook conversation photoshop.
http://kourkouti.sport24.gr/
Perhaps the crisis has taken away that extra bit of cash they would give to those who would sell photoshop jokes? :confused:
I just found your observation interesting since we're actually viewed by as a melancholic people that lacks a sense of humor
Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Março de 2016, 22:58
Citação de: Carolina Barata em 07 de Março de 2016, 22:04
Faliro, our forum international super star do you know our Benfica legend Eliseu? He even has facebook page where is shown is life https://www.facebook.com/Eliseu-a-fazer-cenas-1754994371389108/?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/Eliseu-a-fazer-cenas-1754994371389108/?fref=ts)
Eliseu running away on Gta
(https://scontent.flis1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpt1/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/12798833_1755764247978787_3366850057770360828_n.png?oh=e370c0681a49133fa6b6102fb56a36ad&oe=5795D2F3)
:2funny: Brilliant!!
wait for it
and now, Eliseu catching Tomás Taveira ;D
(https://scontent.flis1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/968993_1756416067913605_6485399499150757238_n.png?oh=3ba048ca5de7274d1c6334a5117af292&oe=574EC016)
Taveira should be knighted by the Portuguese state. I am not not sure if you have something similar to what the UK does to people when they are important, OBE, made a Sir or Lord, a Knight etc?
Citação de: Faliro em 09 de Março de 2016, 14:02
Taveira should be knighted by the Portuguese state. I am not not sure if you have something similar to what the UK does to people when they are important, OBE, made a Sir or Lord, a Knight etc?
Kind of. We have some Orders to distinguish some people.
Tomás Taveira - Lord of the Portuguese Domain - (for services to amateur pornography and showing that anal sex is not a taboo and is acceptable on a first date).
I would give Tomás Taveira the Order of Public Instruction...
:police:
Citação de: Faliro em 09 de Março de 2016, 14:02
Taveira should be knighted by the Portuguese state. I am not not sure if you have something similar to what the UK does to people when they are important, OBE, made a Sir or Lord, a Knight etc?
We do have Honorific Orders.
Most of them are ancient military orders with a big religious connotation.
They are given by the President of the Republic.
Citação de: Mão de Vata em 09 de Março de 2016, 14:22
Citação de: Faliro em 09 de Março de 2016, 14:02
Taveira should be knighted by the Portuguese state. I am not not sure if you have something similar to what the UK does to people when they are important, OBE, made a Sir or Lord, a Knight etc?
We do have Honorific Orders.
Most of them are ancient military orders with a big religious connotation.
They are given by the President of the Republic.
Some are given by the Duke of Braganza...
Fuck You Gazprom! Fuck You Kassai! Fuck You Zen It! Fuck You Baby Carrot! Fuck You Giva Zero Of! Fuck You Sir-Yes-New! Fuck You George Judas Bubblicious! :metal:
Against everything and everyone we are in UCL Quarter-Finals :slb2:
QUARTER FINALS!!! We won holocaust gas guys!!! They have Hulk but Eliseu nailed him 2 games in a row. Eliseu is a bigger beast than Hulk and kicks the ball very hard like Taveira first date anal.
This part of the forum is cool. I think i´m gonna to maintain here to don´t be banned for the third time with no reason.
Last time I was making fans, people were digging me but the administration was so Fifa. Now here I am a dude with a girls name on the nickname.
Another epic night.
18th presence in UCL top-8. Tied with Manchester United in 4th place. Only Real Madrid, Bayern and Barcelona ahead of us.
Citação de: Carolina Barata em 09 de Março de 2016, 22:50
QUARTER FINALS!!! We won holocaust gas guys!!! They have Hulk but Eliseu nailed him 2 games in a row. Eliseu is a bigger beast than Hulk and kicks the ball very hard like Taveira first date anal.
This part of the forum is cool. I think i´m gonna to maintain here to don´t be banned for the third time with no reason.
Last time I was making fans, people were digging me but the administration was so Fifa. Now here I am a dude with a girls name on the nickname.
:2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Write in English and you`ll live longer on Ser Benfiquista. Two months should be a benchmark for you.
But don`t be Inácio and compare the forum administration to fifa. That`s taking it too far.
Was unfair I had many fans because of my comments!
"O Ola John tem a intensidade de um secador no primeiro botão."
"Ola John has the intensity of a hair dryer in the first button".
:2funny:
Does Mitroglou has a song like Mitroglou, I love you? that will be great!
Another nice goal to add to the collection for Mitro! Loved the Greek flag opened up behind the goal the minute he scored. :estrelas:
He clearly got that yellow card on purpose.
What game is he hoping to miss?
Greek NT plays soon and he is probably going get used a lot.
Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Março de 2016, 22:21
What game is he hoping to miss?
Greek NT plays soon and he is probably going get used a lot.
Not hoping. He got his 5th yellow card in a row, therefore he'll miss the away game against Boavista next week.
What are your games left?
Benfica vs Braga
You only have 2 games left??
;D Obviously not
Boavista vs Benfica
Benfica vs Braga
Académica vs Benfica
Benfica vs Vitória Setubal
Rio Ave vs Benfica
Benfica vs Vitória Guimarães
Maritimo vs Benfica
Benfica vs Nacional
So perhaps either he forgot about the the yellow, or didn't want to play Boavista. Maybe he feels an injury coming on? Weird one.
He did well.
Portuguese football is corrupt. A yellow card was a possibility against Boavista.
Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Março de 2016, 23:48
So perhaps either he forgot about the the yellow, or didn't want to play Boavista. Maybe he feels an injury coming on? Weird one.
He definitely did not forget he was one yellow awya from 1 match suspension. He was trying to get a yellow before he scored a goal. Then he scored and took his shirt off.
I think it was purposeful to have clear yellow cards and play against Braga.
Good decision in my opinion.
Maybe he just wanted the Benfica fans to get a clear look at his ink?
Probably. But in Portugal it's very usual this strategic moves.
The only thing that needs to be said is that Kostas has enormous Gorilla dick.
:2funny: :2funny: :2funny: ^^
You all talking like Greeks now..
Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Março de 2016, 23:48
So perhaps either he forgot about the the yellow, or didn't want to play Boavista. Maybe he feels an injury coming on? Weird one.
Boavista vs Benfica
Benfica vs BragaAcadémica vs Benfica
Benfica vs Vitória Setubal
Rio Ave vs BenficaBenfica vs Vitória Guimarães
Maritimo vs BenficaBenfica vs Nacional
Difficult games, it was obviously to clean the cards :)
Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Março de 2016, 23:48
So perhaps either he forgot about the the yellow, or didn't want to play Boavista. Maybe he feels an injury coming on? Weird one.
It certanly looks like that. It`s the first game he takes the jersey off after scoring a goal and it was the 4-0 at the time. No need to get that emocional.
He`s been playing a lot and in games like against Sporting and Zenit, with a lot of workrate needed and leaving him exhausted.
And after this game, is the national team friendly matches. I assume he is going to play on those Greek games or is it the oportunity to give chances to other players to prove their worth?
If he plays in Greek national team, this is the oportunity to rest for a week before the decisive final part of the season.
Braga is in theory, the most difficult game until the end of the season and now he can play in that game and probably will play until the end of the season without any more suspensions through yellow cards.
One more goal :metal:
Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Março de 2016, 22:21
What game is he hoping to miss?
Greek NT plays soon and he is probably going get used a lot.
You already answered. So there`s that. A week off at this stage of the season is priceless and mutch needed for the final games.
The guy doesn`t avoid physical contact. On the contrary. And he`s been playing a lot in the last few months.
Probably Skibbe will summon younger players inasmuch as Greece will not be present at Euro 2016. In this moment it's more important to prepare a competitive national team for the World Cup 2018. But Faliro will know better for sure.
Citação de: KamikazeSLB em 15 de Março de 2016, 17:20
Probably Skibbe will summon younger players inasmuch as Greece will not be present at Euro 2016. In this moment it's more important to prepare a competitive national team for the World Cup 2018. But Faliro will know better for sure.
That would be progressive ^^. However Greece is not. Vyntra got called up again, that says it all. Expect many players playing who don't want to be there.. Manolas, Mitroglou, Samaris, Kyriakos Paps, Sokratis, etc. Expect players who are young and MVPs in Greece to not even get squad call ups - Kourbelis, Bakasetas, etc..
Mitroglou will def be made to play.. :bah2:
Citação de: Faliro em 15 de Março de 2016, 19:40
Citação de: KamikazeSLB em 15 de Março de 2016, 17:20
Probably Skibbe will summon younger players inasmuch as Greece will not be present at Euro 2016. In this moment it's more important to prepare a competitive national team for the World Cup 2018. But Faliro will know better for sure.
That would be progressive ^^. However Greece is not. Vyntra got called up again, that says it all. Expect many players playing who don't want to be there.. Manolas, Mitroglou, Samaris, Kyriakos Paps, Sokratis, etc. Expect players who are young and MVPs in Greece to not even get squad call ups - Kourbelis, Bakasetas, etc..
Mitroglou will def be made to play.. :bah2:
:huh:
He-And-His vs Robben
NO FEAR :metal:
Citação de: KamikazeSLB em 15 de Março de 2016, 21:00
Citação de: Faliro em 15 de Março de 2016, 19:40
Citação de: KamikazeSLB em 15 de Março de 2016, 17:20
Probably Skibbe will summon younger players inasmuch as Greece will not be present at Euro 2016. In this moment it's more important to prepare a competitive national team for the World Cup 2018. But Faliro will know better for sure.
That would be progressive ^^. However Greece is not. Vyntra got called up again, that says it all. Expect many players playing who don't want to be there.. Manolas, Mitroglou, Samaris, Kyriakos Paps, Sokratis, etc. Expect players who are young and MVPs in Greece to not even get squad call ups - Kourbelis, Bakasetas, etc..
Mitroglou will def be made to play.. :bah2:
:huh:
The few Greeks who are actually worth money don't want to play friendlies. Often they fake injuries to get out of the games. EPO usually gets Greek doctors to view their injuries to see if they are faking.
It seems to me that Greek players in general aren't very professional.
You are only realising this now? ::)
Citação de: Faliro em 18 de Março de 2016, 19:47
You are only realising this now? ::)
I'm not really up to date with Greek football. My info comes all from you and other members on this forum.
Katsoranis was quite irregular, though.
Irregular like how? ;D
I know he used to smoke with Santos after training..
Citação de: Faliro em 18 de Março de 2016, 21:09
Irregular like how? ;D
I know he used to smoke with Santos after training..
What? When did that took place?
Was common knowledge. Katsouranis was a smoker in his 20s and he bonded with Santos smoking after training sessions. There were a couple of Greek players who were smokers at the time. They would not do it in front of the cameras obviously.. but it was known.
Citação de: Faliro em 18 de Março de 2016, 23:25
Was common knowledge. Katsouranis was a smoker in his 20s and he bonded with Santos smoking after training sessions. There were a couple of Greek players who were smokers at the time. They would not do it in front of the cameras obviously.. but it was known.
Fábio Coentrão was caught smoking in his own house by paparazzi during his time at Real Madrid.
It was problematic at the time and Real Madrid fans gave him a hard time after that incident.
We all know some players still do it but the awkward and unusual here is the the fact that the manager is smoking with a player. ;D
Citação de: Faliro em 18 de Março de 2016, 21:09
Irregular like how? ;D
I know he used to smoke with Santos after training..
Like when he was good he was good, but when he was on a bad day(not so rare, I'm afraid) it was frustrating to watch him.
Katsouranis is probably one of the Greek players I dislike the most.
Rui Costa, João Pinto... A lot of top players smoke.
Citação de: Faliro em 19 de Março de 2016, 21:35
Katsouranis is probably one of the Greek players I dislike the most.
Really? He's one of my favourites :ashamed:
Spoiler
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_CU3FPRJsmXU/SMUKWNA7LGI/AAAAAAAAAdM/HHzZVM8Aazg/s400/kat.jpg)
:metal:
Do you believe in Jonas?
How did Raul play?
Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Março de 2016, 01:35
How did Raul play?
Like the rest of the team. Awful.
Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Março de 2016, 01:35
How did Raul play?
He will be a great addition to Benfica's cycling team for 2017 season.
Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Março de 2016, 01:35
How did Raul play?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUTHxhsbux4
:winner:
https://youtu.be/nt9CHVZ8tg8
Did Faliro check this out already?
The clown song you hear is Sporting's anthem. Their president back then, the weird guy with white hair and black eyebrows, decides to make his own show at 0:20
Citação de: Arceus_17 em 23 de Março de 2016, 23:43
https://youtu.be/nt9CHVZ8tg8
Did Faliro check this out already?
The clown song you hear is Sporting's anthem. Their president back then, the weird guy with white hair and black eyebrows, decides to make his own show at 0:20
:2funny: :2funny: :2funny: Foda-se... onde é que arranjaste essa merda?
Citação de: KamikazeSLB em 23 de Março de 2016, 23:56
Citação de: Arceus_17 em 23 de Março de 2016, 23:43
https://youtu.be/nt9CHVZ8tg8
Did Faliro check this out already?
The clown song you hear is Sporting's anthem. Their president back then, the weird guy with white hair and black eyebrows, decides to make his own show at 0:20
:2funny: :2funny: :2funny: Foda-se... onde é que arranjaste essa merda?
vi no tópico das Competições Nacionais O0
http://serbenfiquista.com/forum/index.php?topic=57596.273510
Citação de: Arceus_17 em 24 de Março de 2016, 00:00
Citação de: KamikazeSLB em 23 de Março de 2016, 23:56
Citação de: Arceus_17 em 23 de Março de 2016, 23:43
https://youtu.be/nt9CHVZ8tg8
Did Faliro check this out already?
The clown song you hear is Sporting's anthem. Their president back then, the weird guy with white hair and black eyebrows, decides to make his own show at 0:20
:2funny: :2funny: :2funny: Foda-se... onde é que arranjaste essa merda?
vi no tópico das Competições Nacionais O0
http://serbenfiquista.com/forum/index.php?topic=57596.273510
Bem me parecia que já tinha visto isso em algum lado.
Esse video é a definição perfeita do que é ser Sporting. Azeite a escorrer pelo ecrã.
Samaris and Mitro both playing atm for Greece. Samaris just took a heavy hit.
http://cdn.livetvcdn.net/webplayer.php?t=ifr&c=398850&lang=en&eid=392660&lid=398850&ci=5&si=1
Great play by Samaris and Mitro almost scoring.
I've been begging for Samaris to play in a more advanced role at Benfica,like he's doing here. I think he's wasted just sitting in front of the back four.
Citação de: Benfiquista_de_1ª em 24 de Março de 2016, 18:38
Great play by Samaris and Mitro almost scoring.
I've been begging for Samaris to play in a more advanced role at Benfica,like he's doing here. I think he's wasted just sitting in front of the back four.
Said that from day 1 also.
I imagine samaris and Mitro will sit out the next friendly against Iceland to protect Benfica.
Vellios and Tatchsidis most likely to take their spots.
Citação de: Faliro em 24 de Março de 2016, 20:45
I imagine samaris and Mitro will sit out the next friendly against Iceland to protect Benfica.
Vellios and Tatchsidis most likely to take their spots.
Mitro and Samaris have been called back to prepare next weeks match against Braga
Seems that you guys will have many players out besides these two :P
Citação de: Benfiquista_de_1ª em 24 de Março de 2016, 18:38
Great play by Samaris and Mitro almost scoring.
I've been begging for Samaris to play in a more advanced role at Benfica,like he's doing here. I think he's wasted just sitting in front of the back four.
nº 8?
Citação de: Faliro em 24 de Março de 2016, 18:40
Citação de: Benfiquista_de_1ª em 24 de Março de 2016, 18:38
Great play by Samaris and Mitro almost scoring.
I've been begging for Samaris to play in a more advanced role at Benfica,like he's doing here. I think he's wasted just sitting in front of the back four.
Said that from day 1 also.
The thing is, at the time Samaris arrived here, we were lacking a holding mid-fielder since Fejsa had an injury that lasted for almost a whole year. So Jesus had to come up with a plan to fill in that position on the pitch. Hence why Samaris had a bit of a rocky start here and people were questioning his signing. He eventually got used to the role.
As for he playing as a centre back, I need to see more games to judge, but Samaris does seem like a polyvalent player and those are important in squads.
Faliro what you think about Bayern VA Benfica? Not a bad result in my honest opinion.
Thought it was a very good result actually. Gave yourselves a real chance.
Citação de: Faliro em 06 de Abril de 2016, 13:11
Thought it was a very good result actually. Gave yourselves a real chance.
Did you hear benfiquistas singing during the match?
Quite sad after that Guardiola didn´t say that we wants to coach Benfica after City. He doesn´t have emotions, I guess.
He is a very rich man.
Important messages from the bench, yesterday:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CfYtVI2WIAEVOMY.jpg)
(https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/-6WsS83JVKKMtOomBIJDKmtmaLY=/206x0:4514x2872/1310x873/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/49243033/GettyImages-519254262.0.jpg)
I agree with both.
Mitro out?
We feel on our feet.
Sport Lisboa e Benfica.
Just that.
Are loans between clubs allowed in the Portuguese top league? Like can Benfica loan Braga a player?
Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Abril de 2016, 13:17
Are loans between clubs allowed in the Portuguese top league? Like can Benfica loan Braga a player?
Yes. Except with Porto or Sporting. Recently we lend Rui Fonte to Braga.
Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Abril de 2016, 13:17
Are loans between clubs allowed in the Portuguese top league? Like can Benfica loan Braga a player?
Yes, but the player can't play against the "mother" team.
Citação de: KamikazeSLB em 17 de Abril de 2016, 13:30
Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Abril de 2016, 13:17
Are loans between clubs allowed in the Portuguese top league? Like can Benfica loan Braga a player?
Yes. Except with Porto or Sporting. Recently we lend Rui Fonte to Braga.
There can be loans between Benfica, Porto and Sporting, they just don't do it because of rivalry. Top flight teams can only lend 3 players to another from the same division and those players can't play against their original club.
Thanks, Mitroglou for another goal!! :bow2:
Just left 3 points to the third title in a row!!!
Next & last Round:
Benfica - Nacional
Braga - Sporting
Watched the game. Massive goal by Mitroglou.
Greek players seem to fit in well at Benfica!
I have liked all of them so far.. they play with a lot of heart..
Karagounis, Katsouranis, Samaris, Mitroglou, all class players!
I said last summer in the Portuguese section Geral that I believe you would all see Mitroglou as the greatest Greek player you have had so far. He is a great weapon to have at any level. Believe it or not but this kind of player is becoming very rare in the modern in the game.
:clap1: :clap1: :clap1:
Anyone have the video of Samaris speaking today?
(http://i.imgur.com/gkPgnGt.png?1)
You might not understand a word of whats written, but i think that the title gets the point
Mitrogoal stays with us! :slb2:
35th title for Sport Lisboa e Benfica :metal:
Seems the obvious choice. Benfica was a good move for him.
Citação de: Faliro em 15 de Maio de 2016, 21:51
Seems the obvious choice. Benfica was a good move for him.
He has every condition to be a "Oscar Cardozo" type of player with us
Such a great player, it would be criminal to let him go after this
I am seriously thinking about buying his shirt
Citação de: Trapattoni em 15 de Maio de 2016, 21:52
Citação de: Faliro em 15 de Maio de 2016, 21:51
Seems the obvious choice. Benfica was a good move for him.
He has every condition to be a "Oscar Cardozo" type of player with us
Such a great player, it would be criminal to let him go after this
I am seriously thinking about buying his shirt
I'm considering buying Jonas'
Buy his shirt Trap, we both know you want it.
O0 O0
Citação de: Faliro em 15 de Maio de 2016, 21:54
Buy his shirt Trap, we both know you want it.
O0 O0
I fear having idols
But guys like Mitroglou have something on him, this kind of essence that makes you love him no matter what, this kind of charisma and ice coldness that he has on matches even during celebrations is amazing
His goal in Alvalade conquered my heart, just an amazing how can a guy just be like that
He will be loved on the next few years for sure
The fact that he wanted to stay with us even though there were teams offering 2 ou 3 times more just gives me a lot more of respect on him
Always believed on this signing from day one, and i still remind the day when i asked if you guys would keep him in Olympiacos ;D
Citação de: Trapattoni em 15 de Maio de 2016, 21:59
Citação de: Faliro em 15 de Maio de 2016, 21:54
Buy his shirt Trap, we both know you want it.
O0 O0
I fear having idols
But guys like Mitroglou have something on him, this kind of essence that makes you love him no matter what, this kind of charisma and ice coldness that he has on matches even during celebrations is amazing
His goal in Alvalade conquered my heart, just an amazing how can a guy just be like that
He will be loved on the next few years for sure
The fact that he wanted to stay with us even though there were teams offering 2 ou 3 times more just gives me a lot more of respect on him
Always believed on this signing from day one, and i still remind the day when i asked if you guys would keep him in Olympiacos ;D
And remember what I told you guys when you asked me if he would fit last summer in the transfer thread? I was pretty sure Benfica officials read my response. I said he would be no problem for your team.
I agree with what you said about his essence. I watched him grow up at Olympiacos. His frustration at not getting selected as a starter in the early days - him having to prove himself at Atromitos and Panionios - even though his talent and goalscoring figures should have made him a starter. And his character.. a professional. He wants to score. He does what he can to score and both his feet have cannons. He has something a little bit other-wordly about him. Like a soldier more than a footballer. Even when he was at Olympiacos - he would have to speak Greek slowly because german was his first language despite his Greek parents. He has come a long way. I think whatever happens, you will like him and enjoy having his shirt. :smokin:
Mitrogoal, malaka!
Its amazing how former Olympiacos players can fit so well Benfica squad and manage to be champions already on the first year
Fejsa, Samaris and now Mitroglou
We need to keep getting players from you more often ;D
What is even more insane is how many descent players pass through Panionios. They finished 5th this season, with only one non-Greek in their squad... Their team is also very young.
Olympiacos is simply the equivalent to a very well run mid table La Liga side. Most the infrastructure is Iberian inspired.
I think something that might have to do with Olympiacos is the discipline and the winning mentality that is passed through the players
This might be the biggest reason why most of your players are destined to succeed even outside the club itself
Many foreign players who have left Olympiacos stated they have never been at a club where the pressure to win every game (home and away) was so relentless. Every game has to be a win and on top of that, a win with style - especially at home. Olympiacos has the biggest budget, biggest stadium, best facilities, best technical team, best scouts, best academy etc in Greece - of not the entire the Balkans. The players know they have to win every single game. It is reinforced daily. Hourly. Even in Europe, Olympiacos do not play for the draw even when we are outclassed - Olympiacos always strives to out-score the opponent.
Benfica plays in a better league with more competition. But the mind set of the players at Olympiacos does not suddenly turn off. Manolas is a very good example of such a player.
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Maio de 2016, 21:57
Many foreign players who have left Olympiacos stated they have never been at a club where the pressure to win every game (home and away) was so relentless. Every game has to a win and on top of that, a win with style - especially at home. Olympiacos has the biggest budget, biggest stadium, best facilities, best technical team, best scouts, best academy etc in Greece - of not the entire the Balkans. The players know they have to win every single game. It is reinforced daily. Hourly. Even in Europe, Olympiacos do not play for the draw even when we are outclassed - Olympiacos always strives to out-score the opponent.
Which is why you have been champions for this long
Its not the managers,staffs,players or anything else that makes the team
Its the mentality, and that is something that is very hard to change
You can have Sporting as an example for it since it is known to be pleased with too litle and used to loose so much
I have said for years on here Panathinaikos is the Greek Sporting. Even their colours are the same.. :confused: ::)
Panathinaikos get beaten by teams from ex-soviet muslim countries (Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan etc) in European quals all the time. Everyone is embarrassed and the media is ashamed, but the next day all is forgotten and they think they have the right to win the league.. with players Estoril's reserve team would not even be tempted by.. Their fans are called rabbits simply because every time they lose, you don't see them.. they hide in their holes until it all blows over..
If Olympiacos loses one game.. there are problems...two or three? New manager. If Olympiacos don't buy good players, the owner gets booed, that is why Kokkalis left, he was getting booed in the actual stadium!
Panathinaikos fans accept defeat after defeat after defeat... and if anyone asks them why they lose all the time.. it is because 'Olympiacos fixed the league..' Never because they are the shittest team imaginable. PAOK is similar.. They think they are a giant team.. They have won two Super Leagues! - In their entire history!! Even Larissa has won one Super League!! When I meet PAOK, PAO supporters.. I truly feel sorry for them.. they are summed up by this picture..
(http://i.imgur.com/xkmlo6P.jpg)
I would love these clubs to be run properly, I know deep down - the only way Olympiacos stands a chance of winning a Europa Cup, is if the league is more competitive. How can Olympiacos prepare for Europe by playing a season of games against teams that would be relegated mid-season in the Portuguese second division?
Just like Sporting, these guys can loose teams from clubs that you dont even know they exist like Skenderbeu or Videoton :2funny:
And the thing that annoys most of us is that they are the champions of creating conspiracys and spreading lyes just to make sure they can win
They have this obsetion over us because they want to be like us, because they feel like being like us, this envyness is huge
Benfica had an idea of playing with 11 Eusebios on the shirt shortly after his death against Porto to make an Homnage
Sporting had the very same idea to play with 11 Peyroteos against us...for the portuguese cup!
Wearing a shirt from a guy that has been dead for many years...Someone who most of them dont even know of and some guys even thought he wasnt portuguese :rir:
This is Sporting, a club that once had values, but today is mearly a shadow from the rival we once had
:rir: :rir:
AEK and Panathinaikos is the same. Firstly they create an environment where referees are afraid to give a decision against them.. in case they are accused of being owned by olympiacos...Referees were beaten at a meeting they were having last month..those who beat them were apparently wearing Panathinaikos symbols.. yesterday Zeca, captain of PAO (under no pressure) reached and and punched the football with his hand while playing PAOK :crazy2: ..it is pretty much the type of handball that you give a yellow card because the action makes the game look more like basketball than football..the linesman was filmed watching the incident (he was 1 meter away). As soon as Zeca punches the ball (the ball is sailing over his head..).. the linesman looks scared when he sees what happened.. looks at the ref.. and then pretends nothing happened..This incident happened because the refs are afraid to give decisions against PAO..
The most recent Sporting 'copying' event made me laugh.. Olympiacos have been giving food and clothes to refugees for over a year now in Piraeus.. Here are examples..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj2NXqK1ePk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApFYUH1LcCU
All very honourable and well meaning. AEK suddenly felt they - 'the club founded by refugees' - should not be outdone.. the problem was.. Olympiacos is based in the port of Piraeus.. The players simply walk down the street and can give charity to refugees.. But AEK didn't want to be outdone..even though they would have to come down to Piraeus to do something of any meaning.. so they decided to give out food, clothes etc.. but outside their stadium... miles away from any port.. in Northern Athens..where there are no refugees.. simply to compete with Olympiacos... you can imagine how many refugees turned up to the OAKA to take AEK's charity..
(http://media.2oceansvibe.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/graffiti-and-debris-outside-the-oaka-sports-hall.jpeg)
....
Citação de: Trapattoni em 16 de Maio de 2016, 22:39
Just like Sporting, these guys can loose teams from clubs that you dont even know they exist like Skenderbeu or Videoton :2funny:
And the thing that annoys most of us is that they are the champions of creating conspiracys and spreading lyes just to make sure they can win
They have this obsetion over us because they want to be like us, because they feel like being like us, this envyness is huge
Benfica had an idea of playing with 11 Eusebios on the shirt shortly after his death against Porto to make an Homnage
Sporting had the very same idea to play with 11 Peyroteos against us...for the portuguese cup!
Wearing a shirt from a guy that has been dead for many years...Someone who most of them dont even know of and some guys even thought he wasnt portuguese :rir:
This is Sporting, a club that once had values, but today is mearly a shadow from the rival we once had
(http://9.fotos.web.sapo.io/i/P94136bd3/18981940_3nl3J.jpeg)
You guys heard of the footballing giants FC Gabala from Azerbaijan? From this season..
(http://i.imgur.com/3KIyoKL.png?1)
Pretty much everyone in Greece laughed at Panathinaikos being knocked out by these guys in the quals.. even people who don't follow football laughed. Many Greeks didn't even know where or what Azerbaijan is. PAOK laughed the hardest.. until they had the misfortune of playing them in the Europa Cup group stage later on in the same season..
(http://i.imgur.com/blkyRo6.png?1)
:rir: :rir: :rir: :rir:
Fejsa in 13/14, Samaris in 14/15, Mitroglou in 15/16 (more a less, because he is in Fulham)
Who's next champion? :coolsmiley:
A very very talented young player Olympiacos have most probably already secured according to all reports. He is already good enough to start for Olympiacos - physically and skill wise he has everything. Already way more advanced than a player like Samaris and he is young. Already played in Europe. I will tell Benfica scouts who the player is - as they read my posts, but only if they come out the shadows and I get a little commission this time. ::)
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Maio de 2016, 23:25
You guys heard of the footballing giants FC Gabala from Azerbaijan? From this season..
(http://i.imgur.com/3KIyoKL.png?1)
Pretty much everyone in Greece laughed at Panathinaikos being knocked out by these guys in the quals.. even people who don't follow football laughed. Many Greeks didn't even know where or what Azerbaijan is. PAOK laughed the hardest.. until they had the misfortune of playing them in the Europa Cup group stage later on in the same season..
(http://i.imgur.com/blkyRo6.png?1)
:rir: :rir: :rir: :rir:
I remember seeing this team in EL group stage, but I have no idea who they are.
Citação de: KunAguero16 em 16 de Maio de 2016, 23:28
Fejsa in 13/14, Samaris in 14/15, Mitroglou in 15/16 (more a less, because he is in Fulham)
Who's next champion? :coolsmiley:
Fejsa, Forever Champion:
2008/09 Partizan
2009/10 Partizan
2010/11 Partizan
2011/12 Olympiacos
2012/13 Olympiacos
2013/14 Benfica
2014/15 Benfica
2015/16 Benfica
:winner: :winner: :winner: :winner: :winner: :winner: :winner: :winner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK8_p5sHgRU
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Maio de 2016, 23:53
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GK8_p5sHgRU
Sporting :rir:
(http://cdn.cmjornal.xl.pt/2015-11/img_757x426$2015_11_23_18_04_35_497508.jpg)
This is one of the biggest shames that i ever saw in portuguese football
And you know what? This son of a bitch didnt even get a single suspention for what he was doing match after match, always looking in to hurt an adversary
When it came to the court decision it was almost sayed as if Samaris was the one who was doing the fault instead of Slimani
Looking at this image still gives me aids
Guess its one more reason to call it "tugão"
Whenever I see shit like I always admire the way these guys get away with what they do.
Scum.
Its portuguese football and Sporting is the worst scum that you can get today
These guys are dangerous because they use pressure and extortion in order to get what they want
They want to make themselves as the "Ofended virgins" when they know they are the devil
BTW it is official until 2020 :dance:
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13217586_10156901814330716_2308012820926929763_o.jpg)
The idol of Faliro is a Benfica player until 2020. :)
Fortounis is next. :cool2:
Citação de: HJDK em 17 de Maio de 2016, 17:14
Fortounis is next. :cool2:
HEY!! :knuppel2: :knuppel2: Keep out!!
:2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
Citação de: Trapattoni em 17 de Maio de 2016, 16:59
Its portuguese football and Sporting is the worst scum that you can get today
These guys are dangerous because they use pressure and extortion in order to get what they want
They want to make themselves as the "Ofended virgins" when they know they are the devil
Use google translate to get idea how deep the shit is in Greece.
http://www.sport-fm.gr/article/prwin-stelexos-tis-pae-paok-se-egklimatiki-organwsi-ekbiastwn-kai-empristwn/3165676
Remember PAOK is the club that refused to play the second leg of the Cup Semi final and forfeited because they said Olympiacos fixed all games..
Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Maio de 2016, 17:35Nanchara nanchara
Because I know you love this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTNZm1CGww4&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQmT_M20A6E&feature=youtu.be
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_g-DbmnKEs&feature=youtu.be
The minute I watch those I laugh.. I think because Iberians take it so seriously..^^
I am positive 97% of Greeks don't know what the hell that is. :rir:
Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Maio de 2016, 17:35
Citação de: Trapattoni em 17 de Maio de 2016, 16:59
Its portuguese football and Sporting is the worst scum that you can get today
These guys are dangerous because they use pressure and extortion in order to get what they want
They want to make themselves as the "Ofended virgins" when they know they are the devil
Use google translate to get idea how deep the shit is in Greece.
http://www.sport-fm.gr/article/prwin-stelexos-tis-pae-paok-se-egklimatiki-organwsi-ekbiastwn-kai-empristwn/3165676
Remember PAOK is the club that refused to play the second leg of the Cup Semi final and forfeited because they said Olympiacos fixed all games..
OMFG
Police involvement and trafic arms drug dealing, shit is real :rir:
Reminds me a bit of Sporting and Mustafa, very alike these two situations.
The only diference is the fact that it doesnt go this deep under the rabit hole, at least not as much as Paok fans ;D
36 guys identified and 15 identified, this is almost on the level of Italy
Just the tip of the iceberg. Nothing shocks me about Greece. Organised extortion, drug dealing by security services, mental patients escaping their asylums to watch PAO home games and returning to the asylums after the match and riots.. referees beaten in the street, referees beaten in their own private meetings, referees threatened in front of large crowds by club owners, defence lawyers threatening and attacking referees (kougias), journalists assassinated (Golias), anarchists employing refugees to push their drugs, anarchist leaders who are discovered to be head of security at stadiums!! Bribes, leftist terrorists who turn out to be university lecturers (N17), clientelism,.. organised mafia groups who one day wear PAO shirts - commit serious violence and are then spotted by police at AEK games wearing AEK shirts..and sitting with original 21....Greece.
:rir:
A typical Greek village photo 100 years ago..
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Lazos_Doiama_Cheta.PNG)
Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Maio de 2016, 17:47
The minute I watch those I laugh.. I think because Iberians take it so seriously..^^
I am positive 97% of Greeks don't know what the hell that is. :rir:
You could be a powerhouse if you wanted to.
That is the thing ^^ I am pretty sure Greeks are not aware of the sport. I never knew it existed before you mentioned it a while ago.
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Maio de 2016, 23:25
You guys heard of the footballing giants FC Gabala from Azerbaijan? From this season..
(http://i.imgur.com/3KIyoKL.png?1)
Pretty much everyone in Greece laughed at Panathinaikos being knocked out by these guys in the quals.. even people who don't follow football laughed. Many Greeks didn't even know where or what Azerbaijan is. PAOK laughed the hardest.. until they had the misfortune of playing them in the Europa Cup group stage later on in the same season..
(http://i.imgur.com/blkyRo6.png?1)
:rir: :rir: :rir: :rir:
Everyone here laughed at Sporting getting crushed by Skanderbe from Albania, that football powerhouse of a nation, too. Just like some laughed at our NT losing at home to Albania«s NT some years ago as well.
Albania can actually cause shocks.. They beat the Greek NT a few times too. Nasty little team. I mean most the Swiss side is Albanian.
Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Maio de 2016, 23:19
Albania can actually cause shocks.. They beat the Greek NT a few times too. Nasty little team. I mean most the Swiss side is Albanian.
Paulo Bento was fired after a defeat with Albania in first round of Uefa Euro Qualifiers.
Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Maio de 2016, 18:01
Just the tip of the iceberg. Nothing shocks me about Greece. Organised extortion, drug dealing by security services, mental patients escaping their asylums to watch PAO home games and returning to the asylums after the match and riots.. referees beaten in the street, referees beaten in their own private meetings, referees threatened in front of large crowds by club owners, defence lawyers threatening and attacking referees (kougias), journalists assassinated (Golias), anarchists employing refugees to push their drugs, anarchist leaders who are discovered to be head of security at stadiums!! Bribes, leftist terrorists who turn out to be university lecturers (N17), clientelism,.. organised mafia groups who one day wear PAO shirts - commit serious violence and are then spotted by police at AEK games wearing AEK shirts..and sitting with original 21....Greece.
:rir:
A typical Greek village photo 100 years ago..
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Lazos_Doiama_Cheta.PNG)
Surprised on how can you manage to live somewere like that ;D
We had our episodes here aswell and honestly in case of Porto i think that the rabit hole might go deeper then we thought.
Some years ago there was someone from porto staff that died on that same stadium, the death was atributed to natural causes but it was under strange circunstances at the very least.
There are even the famous audio tapes of Portos president Pinto da Costa bribing referees, that very case that was known as "Apito Dourado" or "The Golden Wistle"
Citação de: Trapattoni em 18 de Maio de 2016, 21:56
Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Maio de 2016, 18:01
Just the tip of the iceberg. Nothing shocks me about Greece. Organised extortion, drug dealing by security services, mental patients escaping their asylums to watch PAO home games and returning to the asylums after the match and riots.. referees beaten in the street, referees beaten in their own private meetings, referees threatened in front of large crowds by club owners, defence lawyers threatening and attacking referees (kougias), journalists assassinated (Golias), anarchists employing refugees to push their drugs, anarchist leaders who are discovered to be head of security at stadiums!! Bribes, leftist terrorists who turn out to be university lecturers (N17), clientelism,.. organised mafia groups who one day wear PAO shirts - commit serious violence and are then spotted by police at AEK games wearing AEK shirts..and sitting with original 21....Greece.
:rir:
A typical Greek village photo 100 years ago..
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Lazos_Doiama_Cheta.PNG)
Surprised on how can you manage to live somewere like that ;D
We had our episodes here aswell and honestly in case of Porto i think that the rabit hole might go deeper then we thought.
Some years ago there was someone from porto staff that died on that same stadium, the death was atributed to natural causes but it was under strange circunstances at the very least.
There are even the famous audio tapes of Portos president Pinto da Costa bribing referees, that very case that was known as "Apito Dourado" or "The Golden Wistle"
Well luckily I never lived in Greece and although I tend to identify with the country since I can remember..and have been 100s of times.. all over Greece.. I am far too mixed to every fully identify as a Greek.
The Porto tapes stink to high heaven. It seems they are in deep.
To be honest - there are so many bizarre incidents, I don't know where to draw line in professionalism.
Mourinho had claimed that he saw Barcelona manager Frank Rikjaard enter referee Anders Frisk's office at half time in a Champions League game in 2005.
If Mourinho is to be believed, the evil Fergie let referee Neale Barry use his hairdryer at half-time, or something.
Barry, clearly a fan of the classic 1970s children's show Mister Ben, allegedly came out of his dressing room a different man.
The sweet nothings Fergie uttered to the man in black have not been revealed, but Sir Alex is certainly a long-time admirer.
Barry, you may remember, was the man who helped end Reading's promotion hopes last season when the ball bounced off him and Norwich scored a crucial goal.
After that Reading match, Ferguson said: "He apologised - I'd like to see more of that. I've got 100% respect for Neale Barry."
My all time favorite however is Marinakis's response. In 2014, Marinakis was acquitted by the Three Members Court of First Instance relatively to the case of entering the referee's (Thanassis Yiachos's) locker room at halftime during the football cup final between Olympiacos and Asteras Tripolis, against football regulations to complain about the decisions taken. Marinakis stated that he went to the referee's locker room at halftime only to wish match officials "good luck".
Citação de: Faliro em 18 de Maio de 2016, 23:43
Citação de: Trapattoni em 18 de Maio de 2016, 21:56
Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Maio de 2016, 18:01
Just the tip of the iceberg. Nothing shocks me about Greece. Organised extortion, drug dealing by security services, mental patients escaping their asylums to watch PAO home games and returning to the asylums after the match and riots.. referees beaten in the street, referees beaten in their own private meetings, referees threatened in front of large crowds by club owners, defence lawyers threatening and attacking referees (kougias), journalists assassinated (Golias), anarchists employing refugees to push their drugs, anarchist leaders who are discovered to be head of security at stadiums!! Bribes, leftist terrorists who turn out to be university lecturers (N17), clientelism,.. organised mafia groups who one day wear PAO shirts - commit serious violence and are then spotted by police at AEK games wearing AEK shirts..and sitting with original 21....Greece.
:rir:
A typical Greek village photo 100 years ago..
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Lazos_Doiama_Cheta.PNG)
Surprised on how can you manage to live somewere like that ;D
We had our episodes here aswell and honestly in case of Porto i think that the rabit hole might go deeper then we thought.
Some years ago there was someone from porto staff that died on that same stadium, the death was atributed to natural causes but it was under strange circunstances at the very least.
There are even the famous audio tapes of Portos president Pinto da Costa bribing referees, that very case that was known as "Apito Dourado" or "The Golden Wistle"
Well luckily I never lived in Greece and although I tend to identify with the country since I can remember..and have been 100s of times.. all over Greece.. I am far too mixed to every fully identify as a Greek.
The Porto tapes stink to high heaven. It seems they are in deep.
To be honest - there are so many bizarre incidents, I don't know where to draw line in professionalism.
Mourinho had claimed that he saw Barcelona manager Frank Rikjaard enter referee Anders Frisk's office at half time in a Champions League game in 2005.
If Mourinho is to be believed, the evil Fergie let referee Neale Barry use his hairdryer at half-time, or something.
Barry, clearly a fan of the classic 1970s children's show Mister Ben, allegedly came out of his dressing room a different man.
The sweet nothings Fergie uttered to the man in black have not been revealed, but Sir Alex is certainly a long-time admirer.
Barry, you may remember, was the man who helped end Reading's promotion hopes last season when the ball bounced off him and Norwich scored a crucial goal.
After that Reading match, Ferguson said: "He apologised - I'd like to see more of that. I've got 100% respect for Neale Barry."
My all time favorite however is Marinakis's response. In 2014, Marinakis was acquitted by the Three Members Court of First Instance relatively to the case of entering the referee's (Thanassis Yiachos's) locker room at halftime during the football cup final between Olympiacos and Asteras Tripolis, against football regulations to complain about the decisions taken. Marinakis stated that he went to the referee's locker room at halftime only to wish match officials "good luck".
I think football itself is something were lines between good and evil sometimes become blured and i truly believe that we might only see half or even less than what is really happening in and outside the pitch.
Its like paranormal phenomenons, you might not believe them happening but there are people who claimed to have witnessed it having and you really do not know the full truth.
Im guessing this is how it works...
There is shit going on... so ridiculous.. probably no one believe it unless you witnessed it first hand. And I believe this happens at all levels of the game, in many different countries.
There are many Panathinaikos fans in Greece who gave up following their football team years ago.. and now only follow Olympiacos to see if they have cheated in a game.. they make dvds of decisions they think were paid for.. despite the fact that bad decisions by refs in Greece are spread across all teams in all games.
However.. I have seen decisions even more ridiculous in La Liga and the Premiership than in Greece.. so either the whole world is corrupt.. or refs everywhere are shit..
My belief - in general is that most referee's poor decisions in games - in the top divisions - are around 95% stupidity or lack of attention..maybe 5% bias. Depends on the game..and what the media is saying that week. If a player in a club is caught diving and earning a penalty.. many refs will give the same team a bit of a hard time the following week.. maybe consciously or unconsciously..
I'd really like to read studies/books by anthropologists and other social scientists. about Greek culture and society... hell you already seem to have enough material for a book of that sort.
To be honest, all this stuff is why my grandfather left Greece. It is the reason I dont live in Greece. It is a disaster. Spain is miles more civilised.
I spose I have never really sat down and tried to unravel why I follow what goes on in Greece. I like the land and beaches. Souvlaki.. But the culture of the people.. I find is hugely depressing. I think my mother in a very underhand way tried to brainwash me concerning Greece. Either way, the place is crazy. Anarchic. Its just another beautiful country with lunatics.
Citação de: Faliro em 19 de Maio de 2016, 14:33
To be honest, all this stuff is why my grandfather left Greece. It is the reason I dont live in Greece. It is a disaster. Spain is miles more civilised.
I spose I have never really sat down and tried to unravel why I follow what goes on in Greece. I like the land and beaches. Souvlaki.. But the culture of the people.. I find is hugely depressing. I think my mother in a very underhand way tried to brainwash me concerning Greece. Either way, the place is crazy. Anarchic. Its just another beautiful country with lunatics.
I personally think every country in the Balkans has a couple of loose screws.
I don't mind a screw or two loose. I just don't think I can sit through another lecture from another crypto-communist Greek on how the CIA, Soros and Merkel created the debt crisis because Greeks were becoming 'too strong' in the region and needed taming.. :D
Citação de: BenfiquistaRSA em 09 de Maio de 2016, 13:10
Greek players seem to fit in well at Benfica!
I have liked all of them so far.. they play with a lot of heart..
Karagounis, Katsouranis, Samaris, Mitroglou, all class players!
And Fyssas!
https://youtu.be/y_prxzNLuLc
MITRO MITRO MITRO GOAL!
Is the squad staying together? Anyone definitely leaving?
Citação de: Faliro em 20 de Maio de 2016, 11:49
Is the squad staying together? Anyone definitely leaving?
Like always the portuguese sports papers have sold half our squad already.
Lindelof, Jardel, Talisca, Jonas, Ederson, Grimaldo, Salvio. Normally every season we sell 3 to 4 players, i don't think this season will be that diferent. We have to wait and see what happens.
I hate the silly season, i really hate it. If they sold the surplus we have, we wouldn't need to sell squad players.
Citação de: Faliro em 20 de Maio de 2016, 11:49
Is the squad staying together? Anyone definitely leaving?
It seems that Ederson, Jonas and Talisca are close to leave. And the squad is really valued.
It´s gonna be difficult to keep the most important players in the squad knowing that our President destroys the team the most he can!
It´s a pleasure have you here, Faliro :slb2: :slb2:
:drunk:
Everyone's after Lindelof. I doubt he will stay after the Euro..
"Why did you decided to stay?"
Mitroglou: "Because I like it."
:bow2:
Faliro, you need to watch this
https://twitter.com/bola24pt/status/733772588141404160
So much epicness :rir:
I think im in love with this guy :ashamed:
:2funny: :2funny: :2funny:
To the point. Don't expect many words from Mitroglou.. in any language. He is not a big talker. But for me, in a crazy way - he has more charisma than most Greek footballers. Fucking nutter - but a nutter you want to play for your team. :bow2:
7th League Cup in 9 editions. :)
And Mitro has done an Ibra kind of answer. :bow2:
(http://ssl.superleaguegreece.net/img/uploads/big/145009593999.jpg)
?
Citação de: KunAguero16 em 16 de Maio de 2016, 23:28
Fejsa in 13/14, Samaris in 14/15, Mitroglou in 15/16 (more a less, because he is in Fulham)
Who's next champion? :coolsmiley:
OK I give in because he is on the verge of going to AEK.
Get
Bakasetas Benfica scouts if you are reading. AEK are going to pay peanuts for this man's contract, maybe as low as €300,000 although others have mentioned €700,000.
Fortounis was the best player in Greece this year - by far. The second best player (assists and goals!) was this guy who is good enough for Benfica.
Supremely talented, has speed, technique in the dribble, can be deployed as a 10 or classic striker.
Don't let AEK get this player.Plenty more goals online, ones where he dribbles half the team before scoring.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ecvl9odzFM
Lisandro Lopez? Thoughts?
Citação de: Faliro em 28 de Maio de 2016, 22:52
Lisandro Lopez? Thoughts?
Great player. Just doesn't hold because we have important players for this position as Lindelöf and Jardel.
Citação de: Faliro em 28 de Maio de 2016, 22:52
Lisandro Lopez? Thoughts?
Rumors about him in Greece?
Boatos..
Back off!
A couple of Benfica fans came to see Samaris:
https://www.facebook.com/Socceroos/videos/10154259472337028/
More than actual Greeks bothered to turn up for this circus team..
Citação de: Faliro em 02 de Junho de 2016, 17:39
A couple of Benfica fans came to see Samaris:
https://www.facebook.com/Socceroos/videos/10154259472337028/
More than actual Greeks bothered to turn up for this circus team..
Brilliant! Benfica is a universal club. It's one of our greatest prides. In any desert island there is, at least, one Benfica fan.
Citação de: KamikazeSLB em 02 de Junho de 2016, 23:00
Citação de: Faliro em 02 de Junho de 2016, 17:39
A couple of Benfica fans came to see Samaris:
https://www.facebook.com/Socceroos/videos/10154259472337028/
More than actual Greeks bothered to turn up for this circus team..
Brilliant! Benfica is a universal club. It's one of our greatest prides. In any desert island there is, at least, one Benfica fan.
(http://www.sport24.gr/football/ellada/ethniki_elladas/article4096520.ece/BINARY/original/drsamaris.jpg)
Many said Samaris was MOM in this game this morning, he also set up the first goal. Aussies thought he was the best player on the pitch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbAjgTS-An8
Maniatis :huh: :rir:
That goal should see him playing for the Greek NT well into his 40s..
Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Junho de 2016, 14:41
That goal should see him playing for the Greek NT well into his 40s..
Didn't Nikopolidis retire fairly old as well? He already had grey hair in 2004.
Yea he just kept going..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utattvqNQUs
Enjoying the summer.. greek press never give the guy a second break..
Mitroglou just can't stop scoring. If u know what i mean.
they say we are crazy in the head!
Dizem que somos loucos da cabeca!
Ohhhhhh, Sport Lisboa! Ohhhhhh e Benfica!
Citação de: BenfiquistaRSA em 10 de Junho de 2016, 10:05
they say we are crazy in the head!
Dizem que somos loucos da cabeca!
Ohhhhhh, Sport Lisboa! Ohhhhhh e Benfica!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_W5R3I1KJ8
Epic!
Citação de: Faliro em 08 de Junho de 2016, 22:43
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utattvqNQUs
Enjoying the summer.. greek press never give the guy a second break..
That's his gf/wife? Damn
No idea.. I think mitroglou is not a one woman man..
Any news on the friendlies and how they went, the last one I could not find a link for.
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Julho de 2016, 12:50
Any news on the friendlies and how they went, the last one I could not find a link for.
https://youtu.be/mgeL1vB6G3o (https://youtu.be/mgeL1vB6G3o)
:flagglorioso:
Starting 11?
Citação de: Faliro em 20 de Julho de 2016, 19:52
Starting 11?
You really need to start quoteing someone. ;D
Poor game from us.
Yea, i found the lineup and saw the score and lost interest. :2funny:
21.8M on a sub striker.
Ridiculous.
Who?
Is that the major transfer news so far?
Citação de: Faliro em 22 de Julho de 2016, 18:14
Is that the major transfer news so far?
Renato to Bayern for 35M + objectives. Can get to 80M.
Gaitan to Atletico Madrid for 25
Carrillo from Sporting to Benfica on free transfer
Zivkovic signed
Citação de: Faliro em 22 de Julho de 2016, 18:14
Is that the major transfer news so far?
Let's see if we can sell Talisca and Salvio for 50M.
And maybe try to buy a box-to-box to replace Renato.
We need a box-to-box, urgently.
Think Andre Gomes has what it takes to succeed at Barca?
Citação de: Faliro em 23 de Julho de 2016, 14:28
Think Andre Gomes has what it takes to succeed at Barca?
Yes.
Great player. :)
Citação de: Faliro em 23 de Julho de 2016, 14:28
Think Andre Gomes has what it takes to succeed at Barca?
Is he worth that much? Probably not.
Does he have the ability and the IQ to play at Barça? Yes.
If he went to Madrid he would be a flop. In Barcelona he'll feel at home due to his playing style.
I saw something and thought of you guys. Usually Mitroglou is poor at the beginning of the season - usually over-weight too. Saw he is yet to score this season for you.
Skibbe (Greek coach) just called him to the squad. I had to laugh. Usually the players selected are written like this: Bakasetas (AEK), Samaris (Benfica) etc
So of course I cracked up when I read this from another poster..
CitaçãoPirlo Tziolis even got in ahead of Tachtsidis! Must be for his vision. Still say he won't start and Skibbe will go with Samaris Maniatis (long range goal scorer) and Fortounis in midfield. Bakasetas Mitroglou (Mykonos) and Holebas as his starting front three.
:2funny: :2funny:
Citação de: Faliro em 23 de Agosto de 2016, 01:28Nanchara nanchara
CERH Continental Cup (European Super Cup)
1st leg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFMvDz-PPMM
2nd leg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeMlG-d3_Nk
Would be better if they played disco music during the game.
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Outubro de 2016, 18:26Would be better if they played disco music during the game.
You want to turn this into beach soccer?
Why not? ;D
Yes, that is what would be stupid.. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRMIx9cX73Y
Great victory against Sporting.
Great 1st half today.
We need to that on the big games more often.
The Glou starting tonight?
Citação de: Faliro em 18 de Janeiro de 2017, 19:42
The Glou starting tonight?
Yes !
ONZE DO BENFICA: Júlio César, N. Semedo, Jardel, Lisandro, A. Almeida, Samaris, Pizzi, Carrillo, Zivkovic, Jonas e Mitroglou.
Citação de: Blitzer em 18 de Janeiro de 2017, 19:48
Citação de: Faliro em 18 de Janeiro de 2017, 19:42
The Glou starting tonight?
Yes !
ONZE DO BENFICA: Júlio César, N. Semedo, Jardel, Lisandro, A. Almeida, Samaris, Pizzi, Carrillo, Zivkovic, Jonas e Mitroglou.
This guy seems to be the next big thing at Benfica.
Citação de: Faliro em 18 de Janeiro de 2017, 20:08
Citação de: Blitzer em 18 de Janeiro de 2017, 19:48
Citação de: Faliro em 18 de Janeiro de 2017, 19:42
The Glou starting tonight?
Yes !
ONZE DO BENFICA: Júlio César, N. Semedo, Jardel, Lisandro, A. Almeida, Samaris, Pizzi, Carrillo, Zivkovic, Jonas e Mitroglou.
This guy seems to be the next big thing at Benfica.
Really talented. His left foot is just unbelievable.
113 years of a never ending story.
Happy Birthday, Sport Lisboa e Benfica. :)
Congrats guys! Exciting season!! :dance: :dance:
(https://i.snag.gy/FvbgcO.jpg)
Citação de: Faliro em 13 de Maio de 2017, 20:14
Congrats guys! Exciting season!! :dance: :dance:
(https://i.snag.gy/FvbgcO.jpg)
Samaris talking now. He speaks good portuguese. And he's also saying Benfica won lots of fans in Greece lately.
Citação de: Festivus em 13 de Maio de 2017, 20:56
Citação de: Faliro em 13 de Maio de 2017, 20:14
Congrats guys! Exciting season!! :dance: :dance:
(https://i.snag.gy/FvbgcO.jpg)
Samaris talking now. He speaks good portuguese. And he's also saying Benfica won lots of fans in Greece lately.
Post a video if one comes available. O0
I recon Mitroglou can live in Portugal another decade and still not how to speak Portuguese. Took ages for his Greek to improve. :rir:
And Eurovision!!!!
Thank you Faliro.
Is really amazing how a foreign can understand and enjoy a team like you like us. Really thank you and hope you celebrate it too.
TETRA!
Thank you, Faliro. :)
Citação de: Faliro em 13 de Maio de 2017, 23:42
And Eurovision!!!!
Like Greece, Euro and Eurovision in a year. :metal:
Best moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUcIG5cOzN8
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqOa40vgWRY
Citação de: Faliro em 13 de Maio de 2017, 23:42
BTW can you translate this? (https://i.imgur.com/HQV3ciP.jpg?1)
Citação de: RodriE em 14 de Maio de 2017, 09:46
Citação de: Faliro em 13 de Maio de 2017, 23:42
BTW can you translate this? (https://i.imgur.com/HQV3ciP.jpg?1)
Eliseu proposed,Mendi is liked...The starting left-back position and what's going on with Koutris and Tsimikas
First..its time for Barbato!
(Typical bullshit sports headline writing style you get in Greece).
images drone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSw8B4EpFMg
Faliro, listen and see to a mix from Benfica god Eliseu and Eurovision, its beautiful
https://youtu.be/iComKLYv3L8 (https://youtu.be/iComKLYv3L8)
Citação de: ptevos em 14 de Maio de 2017, 04:41
Best moment
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUcIG5cOzN8
and
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqOa40vgWRY
:2funny:
Congrats on the double!! :tocha: :tocha: :tocha:
You selling Mitroglou?
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DA8E3rrXsAAYI2z.jpg)
(https://scontent.flis8-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18765759_1684164968284891_17331715341212432_n.jpg?oh=0e34ee2fc76a05819ffdaaffdafa1481&oe=59B1C1EE)
Citação de: Festivus em 28 de Maio de 2017, 21:03
(https://scontent.flis8-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18765759_1684164968284891_17331715341212432_n.jpg?oh=0e34ee2fc76a05819ffdaaffdafa1481&oe=59B1C1EE)
:estrelas:
Citação de: Faliro em 28 de Maio de 2017, 21:05
Citação de: Festivus em 28 de Maio de 2017, 21:03
(https://scontent.flis8-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18765759_1684164968284891_17331715341212432_n.jpg?oh=0e34ee2fc76a05819ffdaaffdafa1481&oe=59B1C1EE)
:estrelas:
It was at half time apparently.
I believe that Mitroglou is leaving. I like him, he is such a character, but I think that Jimenez ia better than him.
But I want do continue with Mitroglou, Jonas and Jimenez.
Benfica 2016/17 top scorer: Mitroglou with 27 goals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVyDW6Q4SSc
beautiful :smitten:
Why did you guys sell Carcela?
Citação de: Faliro em 27 de Junho de 2017, 23:25
Why did you guys sell Carcela?
Benfica has an unhealthy obsession to buy wingers each summer, so last year we hired Cervi, Zivkovic, Rafa and Carrillo.
So even a guy like Carcela, that was a good well rounded player and backup to the first team and seemed to love Benfica lost his place on the squad.
We usually do not buy the players we need, we spend huge amounts of money on those we don't need making some positions over crowded with high quality players and others lacking.
AEK wanted to rent your eagle! :estrelas:
http://www.aek365.com/a-533651/anafora-kai-sto-mais-futebol-gia-thn-prospatheia-daneismou-th-biktoria.htm
Mitroglou gone?
I thought he had at least 2 more years at Benfica.
How much did you get for him?
15M for 50%. Vieira doesn't want to be champion this year.
Citação de: diogo32 em 31 de Agosto de 2017, 15:29
15M for 50%. Vieira doesn't want to be champion this year.
Bit confused on this one. Was Mitroglou not happy or did the board push him out? This was a surprise even for Greek journalists so if Mitroglou did want to leave - he didn't mention it to a soul - not even his agent!
Citação de: Faliro em 31 de Agosto de 2017, 15:34
Citação de: diogo32 em 31 de Agosto de 2017, 15:29
15M for 50%. Vieira doesn't want to be champion this year.
Bit confused on this one. Was Mitroglou not happy or did the board push him out? This was a surprise even for Greek journalists so if Mitroglou did want to leave - he didn't mention it to a soul - not even his agent!
I'm thinking that he's being pushed out by the board. They're clearly desperate to make money as this, and other sales, indicate.
Citação de: Faliro em 31 de Agosto de 2017, 15:34
Citação de: diogo32 em 31 de Agosto de 2017, 15:29
15M for 50%. Vieira doesn't want to be champion this year.
Bit confused on this one. Was Mitroglou not happy or did the board push him out? This was a surprise even for Greek journalists so if Mitroglou did want to leave - he didn't mention it to a soul - not even his agent!
The board push him out. But I wouldn't be surprised if the player now says something like "the president did everything to keep me, but I really wanted to leave". Same old shit story.
Vieira wants to make money and steal gabigol from sporting, so a forward have to leave.
Pushed him out... like always.
Citação de: Faliro em 31 de Agosto de 2017, 15:15
Mitroglou gone?
I thought he had at least 2 more years at Benfica.
How much did you get for him?
The press writes 15M for 50% of the pass. If its true is a bit stupid because the player is 29 years old and will be difficult for Benfica receive more money. The sale should be the entire pass.
Most of the benfiquistas do not agree with this sale but in my opinion being Seferovic doing very good exhibitions it would be probable that the Greek will get relegated to the bench. And Benfica still have Jimenez. Being on the bench would devalue himself. Being currently with the high quote I think now it is better moment but not for these values and percentages.
I think that Mitroglou will be the first greek on Marseille. Godd luck for him O0
Bad Mitro
Didn´t want to stay
Only thinks in euros
Our amazing president did all he can to maintain him but he didn´t want
Praise LFV
Bad Mitro!!
ironic mode off!!
Citação de: Galrinho1# em 31 de Agosto de 2017, 15:40
Citação de: Faliro em 31 de Agosto de 2017, 15:15
Mitroglou gone?
I thought he had at least 2 more years at Benfica.
How much did you get for him?
The press writes 15M for 50% of the pass. If its true is a bit stupid because the player is 29 years old and will be difficult for Benfica receive more money. The sale should be the entire pass.
Most of the benfiquistas do not agree with this sale but in my opinion being Seferovic doing very good exhibitions it would be probable that the Greek will get relegated to the bench. And Benfica still have Jimenez. Being on the bench would devalue himself. Being currently with the high quote I think now it is better moment but not for these values and percentages.
I think that Mitroglou will be the first greek on Marseille. Godd luck for him O0
I think you right. The only one I can think of is the Marseille born Antonis Rikka - but although owned by Marseille and going through their youth academy - he never actually played a game for them.
I get the feeling Mitroglou would have stayed if could.
(http://i.imgur.com/I0ynUAo.gif)
Mitro listening to demis roussos "goodbye my love goodbye "
Citação de: Faliro em 31 de Agosto de 2017, 15:45
Citação de: Galrinho1# em 31 de Agosto de 2017, 15:40
Citação de: Faliro em 31 de Agosto de 2017, 15:15
Mitroglou gone?
I thought he had at least 2 more years at Benfica.
How much did you get for him?
The press writes 15M for 50% of the pass. If its true is a bit stupid because the player is 29 years old and will be difficult for Benfica receive more money. The sale should be the entire pass.
Most of the benfiquistas do not agree with this sale but in my opinion being Seferovic doing very good exhibitions it would be probable that the Greek will get relegated to the bench. And Benfica still have Jimenez. Being on the bench would devalue himself. Being currently with the high quote I think now it is better moment but not for these values and percentages.
I think that Mitroglou will be the first greek on Marseille. Godd luck for him O0
I think you right. The only one I can think of is the Marseille born Antonis Rikka - but although owned by Marseille and going through their youth academy - he never actually played a game for them.
I get the feeling Mitroglou would have stayed if could.
The coach of Marseille, Rudi Garcia, in order to secure the hiring, spoke with Mitroglou demonstrating the important role he has reserved for him.
Press revealed yesterday that he already has an agreement with the french club, receiving 2.5 million euros net per year (800 thousand euros more than in Luz), and intends to accept this challenge.
Having conquered everything in Portugal is natural that he has also shown willingness to leave but that does not excuse the poor sale of Benfica.
Mitroglou has never spent more than 3 consecutive seasons in a club. I find it difficult stay that duration in France too. I would like to see him do better than the 27 goals (his personal record at one season) at Marseille but they not have such good assistants like Benfica.
In the French championship I only remember Akis Zikos in Monaco who participated in the champions league final.
Citação de: Galrinho1# em 31 de Agosto de 2017, 16:39
Citação de: Faliro em 31 de Agosto de 2017, 15:45
Citação de: Galrinho1# em 31 de Agosto de 2017, 15:40
Citação de: Faliro em 31 de Agosto de 2017, 15:15
Mitroglou gone?
I thought he had at least 2 more years at Benfica.
How much did you get for him?
The press writes 15M for 50% of the pass. If its true is a bit stupid because the player is 29 years old and will be difficult for Benfica receive more money. The sale should be the entire pass.
Most of the benfiquistas do not agree with this sale but in my opinion being Seferovic doing very good exhibitions it would be probable that the Greek will get relegated to the bench. And Benfica still have Jimenez. Being on the bench would devalue himself. Being currently with the high quote I think now it is better moment but not for these values and percentages.
I think that Mitroglou will be the first greek on Marseille. Godd luck for him O0
I think you right. The only one I can think of is the Marseille born Antonis Rikka - but although owned by Marseille and going through their youth academy - he never actually played a game for them.
I get the feeling Mitroglou would have stayed if could.
The coach of Marseille, Rudi Garcia, in order to secure the hiring, spoke with Mitroglou demonstrating the important role he has reserved for him.
Press revealed yesterday that he already has an agreement with the french club, receiving 2.5 million euros net per year (800 thousand euros more than in Luz), and intends to accept this challenge.
Having conquered everything in Portugal is natural that he has also shown willingness to leave but that does not excuse the poor sale of Benfica.
Mitroglou has never spent more than 3 consecutive seasons in a club. I find it difficult stay that duration in France too. I would like to see him do better than the 27 goals (his personal record at one season) at Marseille but they not have such good assistants like Benfica.
In the French championship I only remember Akis Zikos in Monaco who participated in the champions league final.
Zikos was a good midfielder. Left out of Euro 2004 because he got into an argument with Otto Rehegel. I believe Zikos is the only Greek to ever play in a UCL final.
There have been a few Greeks in the French championship. To name a few..
Tavlaridis: Lille, Saint-Étienne.
Viktor Klonaridis was at Lens.
Tasoulis is now in Lens on loan.
Panagiotis Vlachodimos (brother of the keeper you made an offer for yesterday) is at Nîmes.
Citação de: Faliro em 31 de Agosto de 2017, 17:00
Citação de: Galrinho1# em 31 de Agosto de 2017, 16:39
Citação de: Faliro em 31 de Agosto de 2017, 15:45
Citação de: Galrinho1# em 31 de Agosto de 2017, 15:40
Citação de: Faliro em 31 de Agosto de 2017, 15:15
Mitroglou gone?
I thought he had at least 2 more years at Benfica.
How much did you get for him?
The press writes 15M for 50% of the pass. If its true is a bit stupid because the player is 29 years old and will be difficult for Benfica receive more money. The sale should be the entire pass.
Most of the benfiquistas do not agree with this sale but in my opinion being Seferovic doing very good exhibitions it would be probable that the Greek will get relegated to the bench. And Benfica still have Jimenez. Being on the bench would devalue himself. Being currently with the high quote I think now it is better moment but not for these values and percentages.
I think that Mitroglou will be the first greek on Marseille. Godd luck for him O0
I think you right. The only one I can think of is the Marseille born Antonis Rikka - but although owned by Marseille and going through their youth academy - he never actually played a game for them.
I get the feeling Mitroglou would have stayed if could.
The coach of Marseille, Rudi Garcia, in order to secure the hiring, spoke with Mitroglou demonstrating the important role he has reserved for him.
Press revealed yesterday that he already has an agreement with the french club, receiving 2.5 million euros net per year (800 thousand euros more than in Luz), and intends to accept this challenge.
Having conquered everything in Portugal is natural that he has also shown willingness to leave but that does not excuse the poor sale of Benfica.
Mitroglou has never spent more than 3 consecutive seasons in a club. I find it difficult stay that duration in France too. I would like to see him do better than the 27 goals (his personal record at one season) at Marseille but they not have such good assistants like Benfica.
In the French championship I only remember Akis Zikos in Monaco who participated in the champions league final.
Zikos was a good midfielder. Left out of Euro 2004 because he got into an argument with Otto Rehegel. I believe Zikos is the only Greek to ever play in a UCL final.
There have been a few Greeks in the French championship. To name a few..
Tavlaridis: Lille, Saint-Étienne.
Viktor Klonaridis was at Lens.
Tasoulis is now in Lens on loan.
Panagiotis Vlachodimos (brother of the keeper you made an offer for yesterday) is at Nîmes.
The offer for the PAO goalkeeper is real? Is he good?
Citação de: diogo32 em 31 de Agosto de 2017, 17:08
Citação de: Faliro em 31 de Agosto de 2017, 17:00
Citação de: Galrinho1# em 31 de Agosto de 2017, 16:39
Citação de: Faliro em 31 de Agosto de 2017, 15:45
Citação de: Galrinho1# em 31 de Agosto de 2017, 15:40
Citação de: Faliro em 31 de Agosto de 2017, 15:15
Mitroglou gone?
I thought he had at least 2 more years at Benfica.
How much did you get for him?
The press writes 15M for 50% of the pass. If its true is a bit stupid because the player is 29 years old and will be difficult for Benfica receive more money. The sale should be the entire pass.
Most of the benfiquistas do not agree with this sale but in my opinion being Seferovic doing very good exhibitions it would be probable that the Greek will get relegated to the bench. And Benfica still have Jimenez. Being on the bench would devalue himself. Being currently with the high quote I think now it is better moment but not for these values and percentages.
I think that Mitroglou will be the first greek on Marseille. Godd luck for him O0
I think you right. The only one I can think of is the Marseille born Antonis Rikka - but although owned by Marseille and going through their youth academy - he never actually played a game for them.
I get the feeling Mitroglou would have stayed if could.
The coach of Marseille, Rudi Garcia, in order to secure the hiring, spoke with Mitroglou demonstrating the important role he has reserved for him.
Press revealed yesterday that he already has an agreement with the french club, receiving 2.5 million euros net per year (800 thousand euros more than in Luz), and intends to accept this challenge.
Having conquered everything in Portugal is natural that he has also shown willingness to leave but that does not excuse the poor sale of Benfica.
Mitroglou has never spent more than 3 consecutive seasons in a club. I find it difficult stay that duration in France too. I would like to see him do better than the 27 goals (his personal record at one season) at Marseille but they not have such good assistants like Benfica.
In the French championship I only remember Akis Zikos in Monaco who participated in the champions league final.
Zikos was a good midfielder. Left out of Euro 2004 because he got into an argument with Otto Rehegel. I believe Zikos is the only Greek to ever play in a UCL final.
There have been a few Greeks in the French championship. To name a few..
Tavlaridis: Lille, Saint-Étienne.
Viktor Klonaridis was at Lens.
Tasoulis is now in Lens on loan.
Panagiotis Vlachodimos (brother of the keeper you made an offer for yesterday) is at Nîmes.
The offer for the PAO goalkeeper is real? Is he good?
Has talent and physical body are good. Every day he languishes at PAO he rots. Their team is anarchic.
Citação de: Faliro em 31 de Agosto de 2017, 19:01
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Hi Faliro
VLACHODIMOS from panathinaikos is coming to Benfica in January.
What is your opinion about this goalkeeper? Is he good?
The agents who read these forums ignored me for the first time! ;D
I think he is ok for a 3rd keeper, may even be a good keeper one day. For me there are better keepers in Greece.
I thought Olympiacos had a bad CL..
Going to rescue Mitroglou?
:whistle2:
Citação de: Faliro em 31 de Janeiro de 2018, 15:10
Going to rescue Mitroglou?
:whistle2:
Nah.. Our president its a peace of ...
Citação de: AlexVentura em 02 de Março de 2018, 02:48
A Corrupção no Futebol Português: o jogo combinado entre Estoril e FCPorto
Capítulo I: 15 de Janeiro de 2018 (1ª parte)
Estoril 1-0 FCPorto (intervalo). Jogo interrompido por supostos motivos de falta de segurança.
Spoiler
Fonte: http://24.sapo.pt/desporto/artigos/estoril-praia-fc-porto-interrompido-por-questoes-de-seguranca (http://24.sapo.pt/desporto/artigos/estoril-praia-fc-porto-interrompido-por-questoes-de-seguranca)
À luz dos Regulamentos, o artigo 46.º sobre jogos interrompidos devido a caso fortuito ou de força maior, que prevê que o jogo seja concluído nas 30 horas seguintes, com exceções:
a) ambos os clubes acordem a respetiva realização ou conclusão em outra data;
b) estiver em causa a segurança dos agentes desportivos ou espetadores.
O FC Porto recusou ao abrigo da lei jogar nas 30 horas seguintes por ter já um jogo agendado para sexta-feira frente ao Tondela, quando estavam mais que asseguradas as 72 horas de descansado.
O jogo foi reagendado para 21 de Fevereiro, violando o regulamento que definia o prazo máximo de 1 mês. Mas a Uefa aprovou.
Spoiler
Fonte: https://www.dn.pt/desporto/interior/uefa-tem-de-dar-ok-para-fc-porto-jogar-segunda-parte-do-jogo-com-estoril-a-21de-fevereiro-9052345.html (https://www.dn.pt/desporto/interior/uefa-tem-de-dar-ok-para-fc-porto-jogar-segunda-parte-do-jogo-com-estoril-a-21de-fevereiro-9052345.html)
O relatório da LNEC veio concluir o óbvio e que foi apurado durante o intervalo pelos responsáveis de segurança, de que o estádio "nunca esteve em perigo de ruir".
Spoiler
Fonte: http://observador.pt/2018/01/19/ storil-relatorio-confirma-que-bancada-não-estava-em-risco-de-ruir/ (http://observador.pt/2018/01/19/%20storil-relatorio-confirma-que-bancada-n%C3%A3o-estava-em-risco-de-ruir/)
Deste modo, a consequência seria a aplicação do Regulamento Disciplinar da Liga Portuguesa, no seu artigo 180.º, que refere que "se verifique a invasão do terreno de jogo ou ocorram distúrbios que determinem que o árbitro, justificadamente, atrase o início ou reinício do jogo ou levem à sua interrupção não definitiva por período superior a 10 minutos, o clube responsável é punido com a sanção de realização de jogos à porta fechada a fixar entre o mínimo de um e o máximo de dois jogos e, acessoriamente, com a sanção de multa de montante a fixar entre o mínimo de 25 UC e o máximo de 100 UC.". Nada foi aplicado.
Spoiler
Fonte: http://www.fpf.pt/pt/Institucional/Disciplina/Regulamenta%C3%A7%C3%A3o/Regulamento-Disciplina-LPFP (http://www.fpf.pt/pt/Institucional/Disciplina/Regulamenta%C3%A7%C3%A3o/Regulamento-Disciplina-LPFP)
Capítulo II: 21 de Fevereiro de 2018 (2ª parte)
1.º golo do FCPorto ao minuto 53 em fora-de-jogo posicional com influência no lance. Fora-de-jogo evidente.
(http://cdn.record.pt/images/2018-02/img_770x433$2018_02_21_18_51_56_1367791.jpg)
VAR não actua. Árbitro do VAR Luís Ferreira, advogado de defesa do Apito Dourado e punido. Relembramos que é o mesmo árbitro que validou os 3 golos irregulares do Boavista na Luz.
(http://cdn.record.pt/images/2016-01/img_770x433$2016_01_16_16_40_19_1051685.jpg)
2.º e 3.º golo no espaço de 10 minutos, aos 59 minutos e 67 minutos, com claros facilitismos e evidentes pela equipa do Estoril. Deixa-se, a título de exemplo, como é evidente a actuação dos jogadores do Estoril condicionados para facilitarem.
(https://i.giphy.com/media/ulKtC6YqYZZ0bVEFS0/giphy.webp)
Capítulo III: 21 de Fevereiro de 2018 (o pós-jogo)
Treinador do Estoril, Ivo Pereira, coloca em causa a integridade dos seus próprios jogadores, afirmando de forma implícita de que algo não estava bem, com frases fortes como "Quase dava nó ver o Estoril em campo. Não ganhavam uma bola (...) Se quiserem caminhar no futebol, têm de apelar à consciência e perceber se este é o caminho adequado" .
Spoiler
Fonte: http://www.maisfutebol.iol.pt/liga/fc-porto/ivo-vieira-quase-que-dava-do-ver-o-estoril-em-campo (http://www.maisfutebol.iol.pt/liga/fc-porto/ivo-vieira-quase-que-dava-do-ver-o-estoril-em-campo)
Capítulo IV: 24 de Fevereiro de 2018 (os dias seguintes ao jogo)
Estoril investiga jogadores.
Spoiler
Fonte: http://www.cmjornal.pt/exclusivos/detalhe/estoril-investiga-jogadores?ref=HP_TickerCMAoMinuto (http://www.cmjornal.pt/exclusivos/detalhe/estoril-investiga-jogadores?ref=HP_TickerCMAoMinuto)
Capítulo V: 26 de Fevereiro de 2018 (rescisão com jogador)
Jogador Abner, titular no jogo contra o FCPorto, em três dias passou de titular a devolvido ao seu clube de origem.
Spoiler
Fonte: http://www.maisfutebol.iol.pt/liga/26-02-2018/estoril-abner-foi-devolvido-ao-real-madrid (http://www.maisfutebol.iol.pt/liga/26-02-2018/estoril-abner-foi-devolvido-ao-real-madrid)
Capítulo VI: 26 de Fevereiro de 2018 (empresário denuncia corrupção)
O empresário César Boaventura denunciou, nas suas redes sociais, a prática de corrupção na compra de jogadores adversários, citando o exemplo do jogador Pedro Monteiro, que estranhamente passou de titular a não convocado. Recorda o agente de que este jogador é agenciado por Pedro Pinho da PPSports, "o tal agente que me levantou uma calúnia que não tem perdão, com relações privilegiadas no FC Porto e antigo sócio do filho do presidente [Alexandre Pinto da Costa]."
Spoiler
Fonte: https://desporto.sapo.pt/futebol/primeira-liga/artigos/cesar-boaventura-levanta-suspeitas-sobre-exibicao-de-pedro-monteiro-frente-ao-fc-porto (https://desporto.sapo.pt/futebol/primeira-liga/artigos/cesar-boaventura-levanta-suspeitas-sobre-exibicao-de-pedro-monteiro-frente-ao-fc-porto)
Fonte 2: http://www.record.pt/futebol/futebol-nacional/liga-nos/detalhe/cesar-boaventura-insinua-que-jogador-do-estoril-facilitou-diante-do-fc-porto.html (http://www.record.pt/futebol/futebol-nacional/liga-nos/detalhe/cesar-boaventura-insinua-que-jogador-do-estoril-facilitou-diante-do-fc-porto.html)[/
(https://opolvo.pt/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/C%C3%A9sar-Boaventura-638x319.jpg)
Capítulo VII: 28 de Fevereiro de 2018 (a denúncia anónima)
A Procuradoria-Geral da República confirma que recebeu uma denúncia anónima, de actos de corrupção, fraude e suborno, relativamente ao jogo Estoril-FCPorto, tendo reencaminho a denúncia para o Ministério Público proceder à investigação de uma alegada transferência bancária no valor de 730mil€.
Spoiler
Fonte: http://abola.pt/Nnh/Noticias/Ver/718603 (http://abola.pt/Nnh/Noticias/Ver/718603)
Capítulo VIII: 1 de Março de 2018 (FCPorto CONFIRMA transferência)
FCPorto CONFESSA e admite transferência bancária de dinheiro, no valor de 784mil€, no dia 14 de Fevereiro, precisamente uma semana antes do jogo (!), para as contas do Estoril SAD, alegando que se tratariam de dívidas antigas respeitantes aos atletas Licá e Carlos Eduardo.
Spoiler
Fonte: http://abola.pt/Nnh/Noticias/Ver/718743 (http://abola.pt/Nnh/Noticias/Ver/718743)
Disposições finais (investigação, os crimes em causa e ónus da prova)
Ora vejamos, do que nos é tornado público.
Quanto aos motivos elencados da transferência bancária, há uma incoerência total.
Licá e Carlos Eduardo foram contratados em 2012-2013. O primeiro saiu em definitivo para o Nottigham Forest em 2016, o segundo em 2015.
A dívida que constava em 2015 no valor de 705mil€, desaparece a 30 de Junho de 2016 e a 30 de Junho de 2017, a Porto SAD já não tinha qualquer dívida (corrente ou não corrente) com o Estoril e nem esse valor respeitante a 2015 corresponde ao valor pago no passado dia 14 de Fevereiro.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXPWc-_XcAAw2nk.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXPWc_DX4AAT5qg.jpg)
Spoiler
Mesmo que seja comprovada a transferência bancária por motivos legais – o que tudo indica o contrário pelo que foi elencado – o timing da transferência implica ainda maior suspeição da prática do crime, na medida em que esta "dívida" foi realizada no "intervalo" de um jogo que estavam a perder. Logo aqui, há um crime de criar um "clima de permeabilidade".
De referir que o crime da corrupção tem caminhado a passos largos para a não necessidade de existir uma prova real de que foi realizada uma vantagem patrimonial – o que aqui no caso já existe, os tais 784mil€. Mesmo que não seja comprovada, há aqui a evidência de que, através do pagamento, houve um facilitismo evidente por parte dos jogadores do Estoril, que comprova a prática de corrupção (e há ónus da prova para tal do que é conhecido na comunicação social).
Certamente na posse do Ministério Público e dos Órgãos de Polícia Criminal poderá estar – e certamente está – mais prova e poderão reunir mais durante a investigação, nomeadamente:
1. Interrogatórios judiciais aos jogadores do Estoril (em particular, Pedro Monteiro e Abner, mas não só), assim como a empresários (Pedro Pinho, César Boaventura) e dirigentes (do FCPorto e Estoril);
2. Extractos bancários das contas do FCPorto SAD e Estoril SAD, assim como extractos bancários e investigação da esfera jurídica dos jogadores do Estoril, empresários e dirigentes (e respectivos familiares).
3. Buscas em ambos os clubes e jogadores, se caso disso.
4. Prova testemunhal (há sempre alguém que conhece algo, daí a denúncia anónima; César Boaventura)
5. Outros.
Urge investigar. Temos, como sociedade – não só no futebol – de caminhar no sentido da correcção, da consciencialização dos valores, da verdade, da justiça e transparência. Os crimes de corrupção – em todas as áreas da sociedade – devem ser combatidas e lutadas para que possa ocorrer uma mudança de panorama e mentalidades em Portugal. Não podemos viver num país, de brando costumes, onde se habitua e se senta perante estes actos ilícitos, se conforma com a aceitação do estado actual das coisas. Não pode o delinquente ou o criminoso caminhar livremente. E essa responsabilidade cabe a cada cidadão, cada adepto, cada jornalista e cada advogado e magistrado judicial e magistrado do Ministério Público em inverter o panorama actual da corrupção e ter mão forte e firme perante estes crimes.
Aguardemos, pois, a investigação do Ministério Público, onde se espera justiça.
(https://i.imgur.com/vmhB0h8.gif)
Citação de: Covenant em 02 de Março de 2018, 14:58
Citação de: AlexVentura em 02 de Março de 2018, 02:48
A Corrupção no Futebol Português: o jogo combinado entre Estoril e FCPorto
Capítulo I: 15 de Janeiro de 2018 (1ª parte)
Estoril 1-0 FCPorto (intervalo). Jogo interrompido por supostos motivos de falta de segurança.
Spoiler
Fonte: http://24.sapo.pt/desporto/artigos/estoril-praia-fc-porto-interrompido-por-questoes-de-seguranca (http://24.sapo.pt/desporto/artigos/estoril-praia-fc-porto-interrompido-por-questoes-de-seguranca)
À luz dos Regulamentos, o artigo 46.º sobre jogos interrompidos devido a caso fortuito ou de força maior, que prevê que o jogo seja concluído nas 30 horas seguintes, com exceções:
a) ambos os clubes acordem a respetiva realização ou conclusão em outra data;
b) estiver em causa a segurança dos agentes desportivos ou espetadores.
O FC Porto recusou ao abrigo da lei jogar nas 30 horas seguintes por ter já um jogo agendado para sexta-feira frente ao Tondela, quando estavam mais que asseguradas as 72 horas de descansado.
O jogo foi reagendado para 21 de Fevereiro, violando o regulamento que definia o prazo máximo de 1 mês. Mas a Uefa aprovou.
Spoiler
Fonte: https://www.dn.pt/desporto/interior/uefa-tem-de-dar-ok-para-fc-porto-jogar-segunda-parte-do-jogo-com-estoril-a-21de-fevereiro-9052345.html (https://www.dn.pt/desporto/interior/uefa-tem-de-dar-ok-para-fc-porto-jogar-segunda-parte-do-jogo-com-estoril-a-21de-fevereiro-9052345.html)
O relatório da LNEC veio concluir o óbvio e que foi apurado durante o intervalo pelos responsáveis de segurança, de que o estádio "nunca esteve em perigo de ruir".
Spoiler
Fonte: http://observador.pt/2018/01/19/ storil-relatorio-confirma-que-bancada-não-estava-em-risco-de-ruir/ (http://observador.pt/2018/01/19/%20storil-relatorio-confirma-que-bancada-n%C3%A3o-estava-em-risco-de-ruir/)
Deste modo, a consequência seria a aplicação do Regulamento Disciplinar da Liga Portuguesa, no seu artigo 180.º, que refere que "se verifique a invasão do terreno de jogo ou ocorram distúrbios que determinem que o árbitro, justificadamente, atrase o início ou reinício do jogo ou levem à sua interrupção não definitiva por período superior a 10 minutos, o clube responsável é punido com a sanção de realização de jogos à porta fechada a fixar entre o mínimo de um e o máximo de dois jogos e, acessoriamente, com a sanção de multa de montante a fixar entre o mínimo de 25 UC e o máximo de 100 UC.". Nada foi aplicado.
Spoiler
Fonte: http://www.fpf.pt/pt/Institucional/Disciplina/Regulamenta%C3%A7%C3%A3o/Regulamento-Disciplina-LPFP (http://www.fpf.pt/pt/Institucional/Disciplina/Regulamenta%C3%A7%C3%A3o/Regulamento-Disciplina-LPFP)
Capítulo II: 21 de Fevereiro de 2018 (2ª parte)
1.º golo do FCPorto ao minuto 53 em fora-de-jogo posicional com influência no lance. Fora-de-jogo evidente.
(http://cdn.record.pt/images/2018-02/img_770x433$2018_02_21_18_51_56_1367791.jpg)
VAR não actua. Árbitro do VAR Luís Ferreira, advogado de defesa do Apito Dourado e punido. Relembramos que é o mesmo árbitro que validou os 3 golos irregulares do Boavista na Luz.
(http://cdn.record.pt/images/2016-01/img_770x433$2016_01_16_16_40_19_1051685.jpg)
2.º e 3.º golo no espaço de 10 minutos, aos 59 minutos e 67 minutos, com claros facilitismos e evidentes pela equipa do Estoril. Deixa-se, a título de exemplo, como é evidente a actuação dos jogadores do Estoril condicionados para facilitarem.
(https://i.giphy.com/media/ulKtC6YqYZZ0bVEFS0/giphy.webp)
Capítulo III: 21 de Fevereiro de 2018 (o pós-jogo)
Treinador do Estoril, Ivo Pereira, coloca em causa a integridade dos seus próprios jogadores, afirmando de forma implícita de que algo não estava bem, com frases fortes como "Quase dava nó ver o Estoril em campo. Não ganhavam uma bola (...) Se quiserem caminhar no futebol, têm de apelar à consciência e perceber se este é o caminho adequado" .
Spoiler
Fonte: http://www.maisfutebol.iol.pt/liga/fc-porto/ivo-vieira-quase-que-dava-do-ver-o-estoril-em-campo (http://www.maisfutebol.iol.pt/liga/fc-porto/ivo-vieira-quase-que-dava-do-ver-o-estoril-em-campo)
Capítulo IV: 24 de Fevereiro de 2018 (os dias seguintes ao jogo)
Estoril investiga jogadores.
Spoiler
Fonte: http://www.cmjornal.pt/exclusivos/detalhe/estoril-investiga-jogadores?ref=HP_TickerCMAoMinuto (http://www.cmjornal.pt/exclusivos/detalhe/estoril-investiga-jogadores?ref=HP_TickerCMAoMinuto)
Capítulo V: 26 de Fevereiro de 2018 (rescisão com jogador)
Jogador Abner, titular no jogo contra o FCPorto, em três dias passou de titular a devolvido ao seu clube de origem.
Spoiler
Fonte: http://www.maisfutebol.iol.pt/liga/26-02-2018/estoril-abner-foi-devolvido-ao-real-madrid (http://www.maisfutebol.iol.pt/liga/26-02-2018/estoril-abner-foi-devolvido-ao-real-madrid)
Capítulo VI: 26 de Fevereiro de 2018 (empresário denuncia corrupção)
O empresário César Boaventura denunciou, nas suas redes sociais, a prática de corrupção na compra de jogadores adversários, citando o exemplo do jogador Pedro Monteiro, que estranhamente passou de titular a não convocado. Recorda o agente de que este jogador é agenciado por Pedro Pinho da PPSports, "o tal agente que me levantou uma calúnia que não tem perdão, com relações privilegiadas no FC Porto e antigo sócio do filho do presidente [Alexandre Pinto da Costa]."
Spoiler
Fonte: https://desporto.sapo.pt/futebol/primeira-liga/artigos/cesar-boaventura-levanta-suspeitas-sobre-exibicao-de-pedro-monteiro-frente-ao-fc-porto (https://desporto.sapo.pt/futebol/primeira-liga/artigos/cesar-boaventura-levanta-suspeitas-sobre-exibicao-de-pedro-monteiro-frente-ao-fc-porto)
Fonte 2: http://www.record.pt/futebol/futebol-nacional/liga-nos/detalhe/cesar-boaventura-insinua-que-jogador-do-estoril-facilitou-diante-do-fc-porto.html (http://www.record.pt/futebol/futebol-nacional/liga-nos/detalhe/cesar-boaventura-insinua-que-jogador-do-estoril-facilitou-diante-do-fc-porto.html)[/
(https://opolvo.pt/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/C%C3%A9sar-Boaventura-638x319.jpg)
Capítulo VII: 28 de Fevereiro de 2018 (a denúncia anónima)
A Procuradoria-Geral da República confirma que recebeu uma denúncia anónima, de actos de corrupção, fraude e suborno, relativamente ao jogo Estoril-FCPorto, tendo reencaminho a denúncia para o Ministério Público proceder à investigação de uma alegada transferência bancária no valor de 730mil€.
Spoiler
Fonte: http://abola.pt/Nnh/Noticias/Ver/718603 (http://abola.pt/Nnh/Noticias/Ver/718603)
Capítulo VIII: 1 de Março de 2018 (FCPorto CONFIRMA transferência)
FCPorto CONFESSA e admite transferência bancária de dinheiro, no valor de 784mil€, no dia 14 de Fevereiro, precisamente uma semana antes do jogo (!), para as contas do Estoril SAD, alegando que se tratariam de dívidas antigas respeitantes aos atletas Licá e Carlos Eduardo.
Spoiler
Fonte: http://abola.pt/Nnh/Noticias/Ver/718743 (http://abola.pt/Nnh/Noticias/Ver/718743)
Disposições finais (investigação, os crimes em causa e ónus da prova)
Ora vejamos, do que nos é tornado público.
Quanto aos motivos elencados da transferência bancária, há uma incoerência total.
Licá e Carlos Eduardo foram contratados em 2012-2013. O primeiro saiu em definitivo para o Nottigham Forest em 2016, o segundo em 2015.
A dívida que constava em 2015 no valor de 705mil€, desaparece a 30 de Junho de 2016 e a 30 de Junho de 2017, a Porto SAD já não tinha qualquer dívida (corrente ou não corrente) com o Estoril e nem esse valor respeitante a 2015 corresponde ao valor pago no passado dia 14 de Fevereiro.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXPWc-_XcAAw2nk.jpg)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DXPWc_DX4AAT5qg.jpg)
Spoiler
Mesmo que seja comprovada a transferência bancária por motivos legais – o que tudo indica o contrário pelo que foi elencado – o timing da transferência implica ainda maior suspeição da prática do crime, na medida em que esta "dívida" foi realizada no "intervalo" de um jogo que estavam a perder. Logo aqui, há um crime de criar um "clima de permeabilidade".
De referir que o crime da corrupção tem caminhado a passos largos para a não necessidade de existir uma prova real de que foi realizada uma vantagem patrimonial – o que aqui no caso já existe, os tais 784mil€. Mesmo que não seja comprovada, há aqui a evidência de que, através do pagamento, houve um facilitismo evidente por parte dos jogadores do Estoril, que comprova a prática de corrupção (e há ónus da prova para tal do que é conhecido na comunicação social).
Certamente na posse do Ministério Público e dos Órgãos de Polícia Criminal poderá estar – e certamente está – mais prova e poderão reunir mais durante a investigação, nomeadamente:
1. Interrogatórios judiciais aos jogadores do Estoril (em particular, Pedro Monteiro e Abner, mas não só), assim como a empresários (Pedro Pinho, César Boaventura) e dirigentes (do FCPorto e Estoril);
2. Extractos bancários das contas do FCPorto SAD e Estoril SAD, assim como extractos bancários e investigação da esfera jurídica dos jogadores do Estoril, empresários e dirigentes (e respectivos familiares).
3. Buscas em ambos os clubes e jogadores, se caso disso.
4. Prova testemunhal (há sempre alguém que conhece algo, daí a denúncia anónima; César Boaventura)
5. Outros.
Urge investigar. Temos, como sociedade – não só no futebol – de caminhar no sentido da correcção, da consciencialização dos valores, da verdade, da justiça e transparência. Os crimes de corrupção – em todas as áreas da sociedade – devem ser combatidas e lutadas para que possa ocorrer uma mudança de panorama e mentalidades em Portugal. Não podemos viver num país, de brando costumes, onde se habitua e se senta perante estes actos ilícitos, se conforma com a aceitação do estado actual das coisas. Não pode o delinquente ou o criminoso caminhar livremente. E essa responsabilidade cabe a cada cidadão, cada adepto, cada jornalista e cada advogado e magistrado judicial e magistrado do Ministério Público em inverter o panorama actual da corrupção e ter mão forte e firme perante estes crimes.
Aguardemos, pois, a investigação do Ministério Público, onde se espera justiça.
(https://i.imgur.com/vmhB0h8.gif)
Estoril's stadium is faulty?
Citação de: Faliro em 02 de Março de 2018, 18:30
Estoril's stadium is faulty?
No.
It was a
mise en scène from the Porto supporters. It paid off, though.
The second half was re-scheduled for a month later and they won 3-1. However, there are also suspicions of bribery of Estoril players, currently under investigation.
Any idea who you will dump Samaris on?
Citação de: Faliro em 02 de Julho de 2018, 14:13
Any idea who you will dump Samaris on?
Wanna do the honor?
Brand new to the forum but this is an interesting subject. My opinion is that Jesus will only do that favor when and if he returns to Benfica. The rumor mill here in the US is that he only took the job in Saudi Arabia to rest for a while and is waiting for Benfica's coach to perform badly in the access to the CL, in order to return to the club. So I think that when the deal is done, and since Mendes is Jesus' agent, we'll see some unwanted players in the target club moving to Saudi Arabia. I'm also of the opinion that Benfica should get rid of Salvio but he's not really the biggest problem, is he?
Does anyone know if it is allowed to post on the high traffic threads in English? This board seems to be quite empty.
Citação de: Jumala Llinen em 05 de Julho de 2018, 01:26
Does anyone know if it is allowed to post on the high traffic threads in English? This board seems to be quite empty.
Yes, post wherever you want. O0
Cheers!
Citação de: Jumala Llinen em 05 de Julho de 2018, 01:30
Cheers!
Are you a Malmö supporter? Otherwise you can go and never come back :smokin:
Ah Ah! No! I was born in Nörbrotten, the beyond the wall part of Sweden. I've been a Benfica supporter since I was little because my mother is Portuguese and she is a Benfica fan. My main sport is ice hockey and I follow football of course. I came here looking for information regarding Benfica's games in the US and decided to open an account. As for Mälmo de kan och gar och knullar sig själva ;-)
Citação de: Jumala Llinen em 05 de Julho de 2018, 01:38
Ah Ah! No! I was born in Nörbrotten, the beyond the wall part of Sweden. I've been a Benfica supporter since I was little because my mother is Portuguese and she is a Benfica fan. My main sport is ice hockey and I follow football of course. I came here looking for information regarding Benfica's games in the US and decided to open an account. As for Mälmo de kan och gar och knullar sig själva ;-)
Welcome.You can post wherever you want and whatever you want in english and for sure many people will respond.I hope you enjoy it
Thank you! Really appreciate that!
Citação de: Jumala Llinen em 05 de Julho de 2018, 01:38
Ah Ah! No! I was born in Nörbrotten, the beyond the wall part of Sweden. I've been a Benfica supporter since I was little because my mother is Portuguese and she is a Benfica fan. My main sport is ice hockey and I follow football of course. I came here looking for information regarding Benfica's games in the US and decided to open an account. As for Mälmo de kan och gar och knullar sig själva ;-)
Do you support any team in Sweden? What you can tell us about swedish football.
I follow it as closely as I can being based in the US. Mälmo's hegemony is hard to swallow but the positive side is that we are no longer the ugly duck when it comes to Scandinavia. I mean, who cares about the Norwegian league, right? I'm also happy that Ibra is no longer in Europe, and that he didn't get called to the Swedish team as now we can play as a team and not like other national teams, that I shall not name, that play focused on a single player. This upcoming season I'd keep my eyes on AIK and on IK Sirius that have a good long term project betting on young names and on modern processes. The funny thing is that as a Swede you think that your football is poor but then you see how they play football here in the US and you feel like you actually have a shot at being World Champion.
Citação de: Jumala Llinen em 05 de Julho de 2018, 20:06
I follow it as closely as I can being based in the US. Mälmo's hegemony is hard to swallow but the positive side is that we are no longer the ugly duck when it comes to Scandinavia. I mean, who cares about the Norwegian league, right? I'm also happy that Ibra is no longer in Europe, and that he didn't get called to the Swedish team as now we can play as a team and not like other national teams, that I shall not name, that play focused on a single player. This upcoming season I'd keep my eyes on AIK and on IK Sirius that have a good long term project betting on young names and on modern processes. The funny thing is that as a Swede you think that your football is poor but then you see how they play football here in the US and you feel like you actually have a shot at being World Champion.
Hello and welcome. :)
If you dislike Malmo, you should love this moment. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_puTabcb8Ik
Citação de: Cloughie em 06 de Julho de 2018, 02:06
Citação de: Jumala Llinen em 05 de Julho de 2018, 20:06
I follow it as closely as I can being based in the US. Mälmo's hegemony is hard to swallow but the positive side is that we are no longer the ugly duck when it comes to Scandinavia. I mean, who cares about the Norwegian league, right? I'm also happy that Ibra is no longer in Europe, and that he didn't get called to the Swedish team as now we can play as a team and not like other national teams, that I shall not name, that play focused on a single player. This upcoming season I'd keep my eyes on AIK and on IK Sirius that have a good long term project betting on young names and on modern processes. The funny thing is that as a Swede you think that your football is poor but then you see how they play football here in the US and you feel like you actually have a shot at being World Champion.
Hello and welcome. :)
If you dislike Malmo, you should love this moment. ;D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_puTabcb8Ik
That's a classic!
Citação de: Jumala Llinen em 05 de Julho de 2018, 20:06
I'm also happy that Ibra is no longer in Europe, and that he didn't get called to the Swedish team as now we can play as a team and not like other national teams, that I shall not name, that play focused on a single player.
You can say Portugal! There a lot of us who also think that way. Although Ronaldo is one of the best in the world, as a team, Portugal might benefit when he retires.
Citação de: Jumala Llinen em 05 de Julho de 2018, 01:38
Ah Ah! No! I was born in Nörbrotten, the beyond the wall part of Sweden. I've been a Benfica supporter since I was little because my mother is Portuguese and she is a Benfica fan. My main sport is ice hockey and I follow football of course. I came here looking for information regarding Benfica's games in the US and decided to open an account. As for Mälmo de kan och gar och knullar sig själva ;-)
Always cool to see people from abroad interested in Benfica. Hello from Amsterdam my dude. Make yourself at home. I wouldn't pay too much attention to the complaints about the language. This is a huge forum with many thousands of people which means that everyone, including assholes, is very well represented.
You are making it hard to root for the brits tomorrow
Citação de: MattsMagnusson em 06 de Julho de 2018, 10:08
Citação de: Jumala Llinen em 05 de Julho de 2018, 01:38
Ah Ah! No! I was born in Nörbrotten, the beyond the wall part of Sweden. I've been a Benfica supporter since I was little because my mother is Portuguese and she is a Benfica fan. My main sport is ice hockey and I follow football of course. I came here looking for information regarding Benfica's games in the US and decided to open an account. As for Mälmo de kan och gar och knullar sig själva ;-)
Always cool to see people from abroad interested in Benfica. Hello from Amsterdam my dude. Make yourself at home. I wouldn't pay too much attention to the complaints about the language. This is a huge forum with many thousands of people which means that everyone, including assholes, is very well represented.
You are making it hard to root for the brits tomorrow
I hope no one is rooting for those guys tomorrow! Or you will feel the wrath of a thousand Swedish gods be set upon you. Ok, we don't have that many gods but we do have a shit-ton of demi-gods and godlike deities. So be afraid, be very afraid! :D
Citação de: Gottschalk em 08 de Julho de 2018, 22:17
Jumala,
Citação de: Gottschalk em 08 de Julho de 2018, 22:13
Citação de: Jumala Llinen em 08 de Julho de 2018, 22:06
(...)
Btw, why does your nickname mean "divine" or "godly" in Finnish?
Actually in Finnish it means "Divine Deity" not "godly" or "divine". So you're asking me why I have the name I have? I probably have to give you my grandfather's e-mail so you ask him yourself because, and following a family tradition dating back some centuries, grandparents are the ones deciding their grandchildren's names. In Swedish the name is just a sequence of phonetic sounds and a great jab at the Finnish, by the way. If you're interested in getting my grandad's e-mail feel free to send me a PM.
Citação de: Jumala Llinen em 09 de Julho de 2018, 00:02
Citação de: Gottschalk em 08 de Julho de 2018, 22:17
Jumala,
Citação de: Gottschalk em 08 de Julho de 2018, 22:13
Citação de: Jumala Llinen em 08 de Julho de 2018, 22:06
(...)
Btw, why does your nickname mean "divine" or "godly" in Finnish?
Actually in Finnish it means "Divine Deity" not "godly" or "divine". So you're asking me why I have the name I have? I probably have to give you my grandfather's e-mail so you ask him yourself because, and following a family tradition dating back some centuries, grandparents are the ones deciding their grandchildren's names. In Swedish the name is just a sequence of phonetic sounds and a great jab at the Finnish, by the way. If you're interested in getting my grandad's e-mail feel free to send me a PM.
Interesting, one would assume Deities are divine anyway by their very nature of being a deity in the first place.
How was Vlaxo today as keeper?
It always amuses me...people coming to the forum of the team they do not support (but its staunch rival), and concocting all sorts of elaborate stories to pass themselves off as authentic :buck2:
You got PAOK heading your way after Fener?
Citação de: Faliro em 02 de Agosto de 2018, 21:42
You got PAOK heading your way after Fener?
PAOK or Dinamo Moscow, due to the fact that Ukrainian and Russian clubs don't face each other to avoid problems...
Citação de: Petrov_Carmovich em 03 de Agosto de 2018, 16:56
Citação de: Faliro em 02 de Agosto de 2018, 21:42
You got PAOK heading your way after Fener?
PAOK or Dinamo Moscow, due to the fact that Ukrainian and Russian clubs don't face each other to avoid problems...
I'm not sure if there is much truth to these " separation rumours", because we could play Dinamo Zagreb in the play-off phase.
Citação de: Petrov_Carmovich em 03 de Agosto de 2018, 16:56
Citação de: Faliro em 02 de Agosto de 2018, 21:42
You got PAOK heading your way after Fener?
PAOK or Dinamo Moscow, due to the fact that Ukrainian and Russian clubs don't face each other to avoid problems...
??
Citação de: Chairman em 03 de Agosto de 2018, 17:17
Citação de: Petrov_Carmovich em 03 de Agosto de 2018, 16:56
Citação de: Faliro em 02 de Agosto de 2018, 21:42
You got PAOK heading your way after Fener?
PAOK or Dinamo Moscow, due to the fact that Ukrainian and Russian clubs don't face each other to avoid problems...
??
League Path
The four League Path winners of the third qualifying round. Since Ukrainian and Russian teams are kept apart by UEFA and draw of Play-off round of League Path will be held before teams are determined, the winner of match involving Benfica will face the winner of match involving PAOK (because it plays against Russian team Spartak Moscow) and, respectively, the winner of match involving Dynamo Kyiv will face the winner of match involving Ajax.
Citação de: Petrov_Carmovich em 03 de Agosto de 2018, 17:26
Citação de: Chairman em 03 de Agosto de 2018, 17:17
Citação de: Petrov_Carmovich em 03 de Agosto de 2018, 16:56
Citação de: Faliro em 02 de Agosto de 2018, 21:42
You got PAOK heading your way after Fener?
PAOK or Dinamo Moscow, due to the fact that Ukrainian and Russian clubs don't face each other to avoid problems...
??
League Path
The four League Path winners of the third qualifying round. Since Ukrainian and Russian teams are kept apart by UEFA and draw of Play-off round of League Path will be held before teams are determined, the winner of match involving Benfica will face the winner of match involving PAOK (because it plays against Russian team Spartak Moscow) and, respectively, the winner of match involving Dynamo Kyiv will face the winner of match involving Ajax.
Spartak, not Dynamo ;D
Citação de: Chairman em 03 de Agosto de 2018, 17:29
Citação de: Petrov_Carmovich em 03 de Agosto de 2018, 17:26
Citação de: Chairman em 03 de Agosto de 2018, 17:17
Citação de: Petrov_Carmovich em 03 de Agosto de 2018, 16:56
Citação de: Faliro em 02 de Agosto de 2018, 21:42
You got PAOK heading your way after Fener?
PAOK or Dinamo Moscow, due to the fact that Ukrainian and Russian clubs don't face each other to avoid problems...
??
League Path
The four League Path winners of the third qualifying round. Since Ukrainian and Russian teams are kept apart by UEFA and draw of Play-off round of League Path will be held before teams are determined, the winner of match involving Benfica will face the winner of match involving PAOK (because it plays against Russian team Spartak Moscow) and, respectively, the winner of match involving Dynamo Kyiv will face the winner of match involving Ajax.
Spartak, not Dynamo ;D
Ups...my bad.
Vlaxo your starting keeper again? How he doing?
Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Agosto de 2018, 21:47
Vlaxo your starting keeper again? How he doing?
He will be the starting goalkeeper for the season, 100%. He's doing very well.
He still has to be tested in a meaningful way but from the very little I saw of him I think it's clear why he was signed.
He has incredible speed and he's technically very good, his stance is almost always perfect. He's very good at 1s vs 1s and at playing with a high line, which is probably the most important attribute in a Big 3 goalkeeper here in Portugal.
My only concern about him is how he responds to crosses, since he seems to prefer staying in his line way too much, probably because of his height. He has to improve massively on that if he wants to be a top GK.
I've been away from the forum a bit, what's your opinion on him? (feel free to link to a previous post you've already talked about him).
edit: okay I went to check and he's 1.91 lol. He doesn't look like it. Well, less of an excuse then.
Citação de: Bryan. em 07 de Agosto de 2018, 22:41
Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Agosto de 2018, 21:47
Vlaxo your starting keeper again? How he doing?
He will be the starting goalkeeper for the season, 100%. He's doing very well.
He still has to be tested in a meaningful way but from the very little I saw of him I think it's clear why he was signed.
He has incredible speed and he's technically very good, his stance is almost always perfect. He's very good at 1s vs 1s and at playing with a high line, which is probably the most important attribute in a Big 3 goalkeeper here in Portugal.
My only concern about him is how he responds to crosses, since he seems to prefer staying in his line way too much, probably because of his height. He has to improve massively on that if he wants to be a top GK.
I've been away from the forum a bit, what's your opinion on him? (feel free to link to a previous post you've already talked about him).
edit: okay I went to check and he's 1.91 lol. He doesn't look like it. Well, less of an excuse then.
I never understood the search function on this forum - so i will just say it again. I thought he was fairly average in Greece. Minor vampirism as you stated (fear of crosses) and good coming off his line. Average to good shot stoper depending on the game. Was hard to judge him at PAO because playing for them last season was like working at a firing range.. In the right environment - maybe he can be good. I thought you bought him to sell on. Maybe Benfica can work their magic on him and make him something special.
Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Agosto de 2018, 22:50
Citação de: Bryan. em 07 de Agosto de 2018, 22:41
Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Agosto de 2018, 21:47
Vlaxo your starting keeper again? How he doing?
He will be the starting goalkeeper for the season, 100%. He's doing very well.
He still has to be tested in a meaningful way but from the very little I saw of him I think it's clear why he was signed.
He has incredible speed and he's technically very good, his stance is almost always perfect. He's very good at 1s vs 1s and at playing with a high line, which is probably the most important attribute in a Big 3 goalkeeper here in Portugal.
My only concern about him is how he responds to crosses, since he seems to prefer staying in his line way too much, probably because of his height. He has to improve massively on that if he wants to be a top GK.
I've been away from the forum a bit, what's your opinion on him? (feel free to link to a previous post you've already talked about him).
edit: okay I went to check and he's 1.91 lol. He doesn't look like it. Well, less of an excuse then.
I never understood the search function on this forum - so i will just say it again. I thought he was fairly average in Greece. Minor vampirism as you stated (fear of crosses) and good coming off his line. Average to good shot stoper depending on the game. Was hard to judge him at PAO because playing for them last season was like working at a firing range.. In the right environment - maybe he can be good. I thought you bought him to sell on. Maybe Benfica can work their magic on him and make him something special.
What you just said is concerning Svilar the 18 year old goalkeeper
Fener - Benfica tonight.
Predictions?
2-1 for them.
Well done for knocking out the Turks from the CL. O0
How was Vlaxo in what I presume was his biggest test?
Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Agosto de 2018, 21:01
Well done for knocking out the Turks from the CL. O0
How was Vlaxo in what I presume was his biggest test?
He did pretty well, he got awesome reflexes
Citação de: Faliro em 28 de Julho de 2018, 20:27
How was Vlaxo today as keeper?
The kids was solid.
He seems to have a lot of potential
I liked it
Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Agosto de 2018, 21:01
Well done for knocking out the Turks from the CL. O0
How was Vlaxo in what I presume was his biggest test?
He was ok...the goal conceded I think he could have done a bit more.
Also made a couple of nice saves from shots outside the box.
So now you play the mentalists PAOK.. :coolsmiley:
Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Agosto de 2018, 21:07
So now you play the mentalists PAOK.. :coolsmiley:
Really hope we rape those pieces of shit.
Citação de: Calcio em 14 de Agosto de 2018, 21:10
Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Agosto de 2018, 21:07
So now you play the mentalists PAOK.. :coolsmiley:
Really hope we rape those pieces of shit.
I think you should be able to.
Citação de: UmNomeBemGrande em 14 de Agosto de 2018, 21:02
Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Agosto de 2018, 21:01
Well done for knocking out the Turks from the CL. O0
How was Vlaxo in what I presume was his biggest test?
He did pretty well, he got awesome reflexes
I ask because perhaps Greece made a mistake never capping him but then again - there are currently around 4 NT quality keepers playing (Gianniotas - OSFP, Paschalakis - PAOK, Barkas - AEK & Anestis - Hapoel) who have Greek passports so perhaps no need..
Citação de: joao_bruno em 14 de Agosto de 2018, 21:02
Citação de: Faliro em 28 de Julho de 2018, 20:27
How was Vlaxo today as keeper?
The kids was solid.
He seems to have a lot of potential
I liked it
It is difficult to step into the shoes of Benfica GK...
Tbh I expected Vlacho to do well in Constantinople...Too bad that he does not play for his own country though. He will never start for Germany anyway.
Citação de: Napster03 em 14 de Agosto de 2018, 21:02
Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Agosto de 2018, 21:01
Well done for knocking out the Turks from the CL. O0
How was Vlaxo in what I presume was his biggest test?
He was ok...the goal conceded I think he could have done a bit more.
Also made a couple of nice saves from shots outside the box.
Only SuperMan can save the goal.
Citação de: Calcio em 14 de Agosto de 2018, 21:10
Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Agosto de 2018, 21:07
So now you play the mentalists PAOK.. :coolsmiley:
Really hope we rape those pieces of shit.
Pieces of shit? That's some way to refer to a team that showed you guys respect in their house.
Citação de: AMSILVA em 17 de Agosto de 2018, 03:54
Citação de: Calcio em 14 de Agosto de 2018, 21:10
Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Agosto de 2018, 21:07
So now you play the mentalists PAOK.. :coolsmiley:
Really hope we rape those pieces of shit.
Pieces of shit? That's some way to refer to a team that showed you guys respect in their house.
Heya AMSILVA and welcome!
Are you Greek?
Citação de: AMSILVA em 17 de Agosto de 2018, 03:54
Citação de: Calcio em 14 de Agosto de 2018, 21:10
Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Agosto de 2018, 21:07
So now you play the mentalists PAOK.. :coolsmiley:
Really hope we rape those pieces of shit.
Pieces of shit? That's some way to refer to a team that showed you guys respect in their house.
I hate PAOK.
Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Agosto de 2018, 11:43
Citação de: AMSILVA em 17 de Agosto de 2018, 03:54
Citação de: Calcio em 14 de Agosto de 2018, 21:10
Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Agosto de 2018, 21:07
So now you play the mentalists PAOK.. :coolsmiley:
Really hope we rape those pieces of shit.
Pieces of shit? That's some way to refer to a team that showed you guys respect in their house.
Heya AMSILVA and welcome!
Are you Greek?
Yes, Im Greek. My wife is Portuguese. I'll be in the Azores for the match.
Citação de: Calcio em 17 de Agosto de 2018, 12:11
Citação de: AMSILVA em 17 de Agosto de 2018, 03:54
Citação de: Calcio em 14 de Agosto de 2018, 21:10
Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Agosto de 2018, 21:07
So now you play the mentalists PAOK.. :coolsmiley:
Really hope we rape those pieces of shit.
Pieces of shit? That's some way to refer to a team that showed you guys respect in their house.
I hate PAOK.
Fair enough, lol.
Great game today! Loved seeing Pizzi this game vs Fenerbache, Fantastic. Ferreyra finally a goal!
A fair bit of confusion in Greece as to why Skibbe didn't call up Vaxodimos. Perhaps it is just Skibbe's usual low IQ or perhaps Vlaxo is waiting for Germany?
Citação de: Faliro em 30 de Agosto de 2018, 17:56
A fair bit of confusion in Greece as to why Skibbe didn't call up Vaxodimos. Perhaps it is just Skibbe's usual low IQ or perhaps Vlaxo is waiting for Germany?
I don't see him in the German national team for the next few years.
Btw, i can't explain why but he seems more greek than german.
Citação de: Gonçalo Santos em 30 de Agosto de 2018, 19:07
Citação de: Faliro em 30 de Agosto de 2018, 17:56
A fair bit of confusion in Greece as to why Skibbe didn't call up Vaxodimos. Perhaps it is just Skibbe's usual low IQ or perhaps Vlaxo is waiting for Germany?
I don't see him in the German national team for the next few years.
Btw, i can't explain why but he seems more greek than german.
Well he is Greek - both parents - just he was born in Germany. I think mentally and physically he is Greek. What will be interesting is if the Germans do have any interest in him - the stature of Benfica could be making them look at him again..
Now we must use AEK to wipe the floor :smokin:
Oly fans must be rooting for us again ;D
Di Maria did this the last time we faced each other:
https://twitter.com/manueltrr/status/1035225659046539264
For now with just 7 official games played, I start to get confident with Odysseas as our goalkeeper. He seems very focus during the game, good communication with our defenders, good timing to go out on the feet of the opponent, and specially good flexibility and time of reaction. Maybe his handicap is to attack the ball on the crosses, he is always staying in goal line, but better like that than try to attack the ball and fail it.
Citação de: Faliro em 30 de Agosto de 2018, 19:12
Citação de: Gonçalo Santos em 30 de Agosto de 2018, 19:07
Citação de: Faliro em 30 de Agosto de 2018, 17:56
A fair bit of confusion in Greece as to why Skibbe didn't call up Vaxodimos. Perhaps it is just Skibbe's usual low IQ or perhaps Vlaxo is waiting for Germany?
I don't see him in the German national team for the next few years.
Btw, i can't explain why but he seems more greek than german.
Well he is Greek - both parents - just he was born in Germany. I think mentally and physically he is Greek. What will be interesting is if the Germans do have any interest in him - the stature of Benfica could be making them look at him again..
Yeah, seems possible. But a quit unlikely to happen.
Germany has several options. Is doing well at the moment but he needs to evolve in some things.
Citação de: Gonçalo Santos em 30 de Agosto de 2018, 19:21
Citação de: Faliro em 30 de Agosto de 2018, 19:12
Citação de: Gonçalo Santos em 30 de Agosto de 2018, 19:07
Citação de: Faliro em 30 de Agosto de 2018, 17:56
A fair bit of confusion in Greece as to why Skibbe didn't call up Vaxodimos. Perhaps it is just Skibbe's usual low IQ or perhaps Vlaxo is waiting for Germany?
I don't see him in the German national team for the next few years.
Btw, i can't explain why but he seems more greek than german.
Well he is Greek - both parents - just he was born in Germany. I think mentally and physically he is Greek. What will be interesting is if the Germans do have any interest in him - the stature of Benfica could be making them look at him again..
Yeah, seems possible. But a quit unlikely to happen.
Germany has several options. Is doing well at the moment but he needs to evolve in some things.
I agree. Still missing a few things. For me anyway - too much punching when he catch the ball and sometimes poor positioning. His reflexes however are good. Let's see.
Citação de: HJDK em 30 de Agosto de 2018, 19:15
Now we must use AEK to wipe the floor :smokin:
Oly fans must be rooting for us again ;D
Di Maria did this the last time we faced each other:
https://twitter.com/manueltrr/status/1035225659046539264
Oly fans are rooting for you 100%. No question.
AEK are a little different to PAOK. Defence is a little stronger - attack is weaker. Very good for Benfica their new stadium will not be finished in time.
AEK will need significant signings to even contemplate hurting Benfica. Lets see what they do in the last few hours (my guess nothing).
Citação de: Faliro em 31 de Agosto de 2018, 15:03
AEK will need significant signings to even contemplate hurting Benfica. Lets see what they do in the last few hours (my guess nothing).
How did they even win the league last season if they are that bad?
Citação de: Festivus em 01 de Setembro de 2018, 09:37
Citação de: Faliro em 31 de Agosto de 2018, 15:03
AEK will need significant signings to even contemplate hurting Benfica. Lets see what they do in the last few hours (my guess nothing).
How did they even win the league last season if they are that bad?
Olympiacos had a terrible team firstly.
The govt and refs backed PAOK to win the league but they made mistakes.
AEK crept in with the best defence and a solid midfield. However that team has now been sold off.
This summer AEK lost their best CB - Vranjes, their best winger - Lazaros and their starting centre forward - Arajuo.
We had a tough month and besides many people said " in September we até done" the team are first in the league and in the group stage.
The draw against Sporting was unfair, we deserved the victory...
Citação de: Covenant em 03 de Setembro de 2018, 14:03
We had a tough month and besides many people said " in September we até done" the team are first in the league and in the group stage.
The draw against Sporting was unfair, we deserved the victory...
Sadly there's always a game or two like that. We also should have beaten PAOK at Luz.
5 wins and 3 draws in official games. 2 of the draws were against Fenerbahçe and PAOK, so it didn't really matter in the end since we knocked-out both teams. A shame the draw in the league had to be against Sporting.
(https://scontent.flhr1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/40929081_292586574867681_1648569303319969792_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=de525168c21ff448fba1f7178e729527&oe=5C3587C0)
What is all this I am reading about you being removed from 3 competitions??
Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Setembro de 2018, 14:11
What is all this I am reading about you being removed from 3 competitions??
It's complicated. Even here in Portugal we don't know everything.
Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Setembro de 2018, 14:11
What is all this I am reading about you being removed from 3 competitions??
Is not easy to explain.
Last year our rivals start a war against Benfica. Specially FC Porto. They hacked Benfica e-mail and started to show every week in Porto TV e-mails about some Benfica's businesses and tried to find somethings illegal. After that started some anonymous complains to the police about Benfica (our ultras who aren't registered ,due to the portuguese law they are illegals, and some more staff) and police (from Porto city) started to make investigations.
After some months the Police found out that the Benfica's director of justice department was espying them. He was getting information about the investigations related by some people he know who worked in Portuguese Justice Department. He gave to these guys some presents as tickets to the games or Benfica shirts. So now this guy Paulo Gonçalves will be in court accused of corruption of these guys and another crimes that they use to call translated from portuguese as "violation of justice secret" related to the getting information from inside about the investigations. It's a crime very usual in Portugal is happening all the times the press always make it revealing things about processes that are in investigation.
Anyway the accusation decided to put Benfica also in court, saying that all Benfica directors knew about Paulo Gonçalves behavior. And they ask in court for suspend Benfica from all competitions for a time from 6 month to 3 years.
This is what the accusation ask, but in the end I have doubts if they can really accuse Benfica about this sheet. And even if they can prove that Benfica's staff in general were involved and not just this guy, Paulo Gonçalves, (who is really a trash and deserves to be condemned) doesn't make sense this punishment of suspending Benfica, for a kind of crime like that.
Anyway for us fans is always embarrassing to see this things happening with our club
https://youtu.be/-c7RT5S2rTI
Never forget this Faliro.
Citação de: Covenant em 06 de Setembro de 2018, 20:08
https://youtu.be/-c7RT5S2rTI
Never forget this Faliro.
He actually pronounces PAOK fairly well. English don't even attempt it - the just call them P.A.O.K.
Citação de: Covenant em 06 de Setembro de 2018, 20:08
https://youtu.be/-c7RT5S2rTI
Never forget this Faliro.
Não me lembro disto. Qual o contexto?
Citação de: Festivus em 06 de Setembro de 2018, 23:15
Citação de: Covenant em 06 de Setembro de 2018, 20:08
https://youtu.be/-c7RT5S2rTI
Never forget this Faliro.
Não me lembro disto. Qual o contexto?
O Sabry tinha feito uma entrevista a criticar os métodos do Mourinho.
O Mourinho respondeu desta forma:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRDgVyQ6_xE
Thread of English speaking AEK fans talking about the AEK vs Benfica clash. Feel free to join up (the minute you register you can post) and comment:
http://hellas-football.com/forum/super-league-teams/aek-fc/1081-aek-vs-benfica
Odysseas was your MVP imo.
Citação de: Faliro em 02 de Outubro de 2018, 22:51
Odysseas was your MVP imo.
Clearly.
We're a shambles. Rui Vitória is hands down the worst coach in the CL and one of the worst in Portugal's first division.
yes it was bad to watch. at one point we were using a sort of double right back with Gedson replacing the mediocre Almeida and him being more like a third CB.
Odysseas mvp.
Citação de: Arceus_17 em 03 de Outubro de 2018, 09:14
yes it was bad to watch. at one point we were using a sort of double right back with Gedson replacing the mediocre Almeida and him being more like a third CB.
Odysseas mvp.
Varkas - the keeper who failed to save that long rolling shot from Alfa is the Greek NT starting keeper. Odysseas - who imo was stunning - has not even been capped by Greece at any level and he should be the Greek number 1. >:(
(https://protoselida.24media.gr/images/2018/10/03/lrg/20181003_live_sport.jpg)
We won tonight and that's all that matters :)
Citação de: Festivus em 07 de Outubro de 2018, 20:44
We won tonight and that's all that matters :)
Vlaxo tested much?
Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Outubro de 2018, 21:52
Citação de: Festivus em 07 de Outubro de 2018, 20:44
We won tonight and that's all that matters :)
Vlaxo tested much?
No. Porto had... 1 shot on target in the entire game.
Citação de: Faliro em 07 de Outubro de 2018, 21:52
Citação de: Festivus em 07 de Outubro de 2018, 20:44
We won tonight and that's all that matters :)
Vlaxo tested much?
Citação de: daniel.gomes em 08 de Outubro de 2018, 00:54
(https://i.imgur.com/bONvhlq.gif)
That's pretty much the only time we saw him.
Terrible game. The standard of our league has dropped a few levels over the last few years.
Vlaxo seems to love the club.
At least it stopped at 5..
New coach?
Citação de: Faliro em 27 de Novembro de 2018, 22:08
At least it stopped at 5..
New coach?
The Great Dictator Vieira won't allow it, unless the actual coach leaves with the money of the contratual termination before the expiration date, something along these lines.
I just want a radical change in the club :(
Benfica -1
AEK -0
AEK have performed worse in a CL Group stage than any other Greek team in the history of Greek football.
(https://i.snag.gy/tWQhwe.jpg)
:rir: :rir: :rir: :rir:
Citação de: Faliro em 12 de Dezembro de 2018, 23:09
Benfica -1
AEK -0
AEK have performed worse in a CL Group stage than any other Greek team in the history of Greek football.
(https://i.snag.gy/tWQhwe.jpg)
:rir: :rir: :rir: :rir:
Here at Benfica, we cannot talk about that... :\
please take Rui Vitoria. Thank you
Citação de: Faliro em 12 de Dezembro de 2018, 23:09
Benfica -1
AEK -0
AEK have performed worse in a CL Group stage than any other Greek team in the history of Greek football.
(https://i.snag.gy/tWQhwe.jpg)
:rir: :rir: :rir: :rir:
At least someone is happy. But I can't say I'm happy about this. 6 games and we only got a Europa League spot at the expense of a weaker AEK team. It is not enough...
Citação de: Petrov_Carmovich em 13 de Dezembro de 2018, 05:34
Citação de: Faliro em 12 de Dezembro de 2018, 23:09
Benfica -1
AEK -0
AEK have performed worse in a CL Group stage than any other Greek team in the history of Greek football.
(https://i.snag.gy/tWQhwe.jpg)
:rir: :rir: :rir: :rir:
At least someone is happy. But I can't say I'm happy about this. 6 games and we only got a Europa League spot at the expense of a weaker AEK team. It is not enough...
With the coach and players it is better you try to win the europa cup anyway. CL teams are a lot stronger and would damage Benfica.
Zero chance of us winning Europa League. Let's be realistic: Chelsea, Arsenal, Napoli, etc etc etc...
We might win a round, if we're lucky. With a proper coach we could have a slim chance of progressing further but with this crappy motivational speaker we can't even dream.
Citação de: Faliro em 13 de Dezembro de 2018, 09:11
Citação de: Petrov_Carmovich em 13 de Dezembro de 2018, 05:34
Citação de: Faliro em 12 de Dezembro de 2018, 23:09
Benfica -1
AEK -0
AEK have performed worse in a CL Group stage than any other Greek team in the history of Greek football.
(https://i.snag.gy/tWQhwe.jpg)
:rir: :rir: :rir: :rir:
At least someone is happy. But I can't say I'm happy about this. 6 games and we only got a Europa League spot at the expense of a weaker AEK team. It is not enough...
With the coach and players it is better you try to win the europa cup anyway. CL teams are a lot stronger and would damage Benfica.
We have team to reach 1/8 finals. But nowadays our team just look like trash.
Our group is a little bit stronger, but see what Porto did in UCL this year. And i can assure you, without being biased, that we have a much better team.
Rui Vitória is by far the worst coach among all the teams in the Champions League.
Great game yesterday! Another Derby wednesday.
Joao Felix really as good as the hype?
Citação de: Faliro em 28 de Fevereiro de 2019, 15:36
Joao Felix really as good as the hype?
Pretty much, yeah.
Greatest talent coming out of Benfica youth teams since Bernardo Silva.
Watched from the 70th minute. Stunning.
Citação de: Faliro em 02 de Março de 2019, 22:59
Watched from the 70th minute. Stunning.
Samaris was huge today...one of the players that has improved a lot after the Coach Donkey left and Lage came.
Citação de: Arceus_17 em 02 de Março de 2019, 23:29
Citação de: Faliro em 02 de Março de 2019, 22:59
Watched from the 70th minute. Stunning.
Samaris was huge today...one of the players that has improved a lot after the Coach Donkey left and Lage came.
I only saw from the 70th min, Samaris's interception was almost mythical - that was a goal all day long up until he put the end of his foot on it.. He was close to getting a second yellow at times due to the passion (he was possessed clearly), but he seemed a different player than the one he is for the Greek NT - an institution he clearly doesn't care about at all and I don't blame him.
The last time I saw him this powerful was when he was still at Olympiacos. He clearly is Benfica to his soul. You can see that.
This game could be the difference. Immense from Benfica. This is the type of game that wins a championship. Porto looked impotent and panicked and I don't often see that. The energy and intensity of the game was very impressive. Good advert for Portuguese football - more importantly -super result for Benfica.
:slb2: :slb2: :slb2:
Great win against Dínamo. We need to win sunday, will be a tough game.
https://youtu.be/u3UoEPYy6c4
Falirooooooo... You will celebrate like us.... Please, be one of us in that night, if we are the champions. You are a legend of this forum. Benfica is your 2nd club.
Citação de: TFFS em 30 de Abril de 2019, 06:18
Falirooooooo... You will celebrate like us.... Please, be one of us in that night, if we are the champions. You are a legend of this forum. Benfica is your 2nd club.
:smokin:
Citação de: TFFS em 30 de Abril de 2019, 06:18
Falirooooooo... You will celebrate like us.... Please, be one of us in that night, if we are the champions. You are a legend of this forum. Benfica is your 2nd club.
:rir:
I have to admit I was happy Porto fucked up against Rio Ave this weekend and gave some breathing room! :winner:
For a second there I thought Rio Ave would fuck us too! :huh:
Seems this one is going down to do the wire.
Citação de: Faliro em 12 de Maio de 2019, 22:13
For a second there I thought Rio Ave would fuck us too! :huh:
Seems this one is going down to do the wire.
A tie will make it.
https://media.giphy.com/media/asqKyl0VFzInBwpxTp/giphy.gif
Samaris putting the druggie in his place
:rir: :bow2: :smokin:
Citação de: Arceus_17 em 13 de Maio de 2019, 07:50
https://media.giphy.com/media/asqKyl0VFzInBwpxTp/giphy.gif
Samaris putting the druggie in his place
:rir: :bow2: :smokin:
:rir:
I wrote in the Samaris thread, you see this involving Greeks a lot..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAoxsowptfY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IG8texwyYA
Samaris is with us until 2023!
Citação de: Faliro em 15 de Maio de 2019, 00:04
Citação de: Covenant em 14 de Maio de 2019, 19:41
Samaris is with us until 2023!
Serious???
Yeah.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D6jjq7rW0AA67gk?format=jpg)
Looking to sell Vlacho or just a rumour?
Citação de: Faliro em 15 de Maio de 2019, 13:51
Looking to sell Vlacho or just a rumour?
Rumour for now.
Citação de: Calcio em 15 de Maio de 2019, 14:00
Citação de: Faliro em 15 de Maio de 2019, 13:51
Looking to sell Vlacho or just a rumour?
Rumour for now.
In general terms, how do the Benfiquistas rate him?
Citação de: Faliro em 15 de Maio de 2019, 14:04
Citação de: Calcio em 15 de Maio de 2019, 14:00
Citação de: Faliro em 15 de Maio de 2019, 13:51
Looking to sell Vlacho or just a rumour?
Rumour for now.
In general terms, how do the Benfiquistas rate him?
In this Internet Forum not so good. But in general terms people like him.
(https://media.slbenfica.pt/-/media/benficadp/images/departamento-de-comunicacao/epoca_2018_2019/futebol/equipa-a/competicoes/liga-nos/34-jornada-benfica-santa-clara/jogo/direto/benfica-reconquista-arquivo-1-new.jpg?la=pt-pt&v=636937711750000000)
Unreal record from Bruno Lage. We'll probably never see anything like it ever again.
Citação de: Faliro em 15 de Maio de 2019, 13:51
Looking to sell Vlacho or just a rumour?
Rule of thumb: the President is always willing to sell anyone at anytime if a good enough offer gets made.
What
the
Fuck
?
Citação de: Faliro em 24 de Agosto de 2019, 21:42
What
the
Fuck
?
Stubborn Manager + President's shitty management = Getting Asskicked by Porto for the 14729462957th time.
Citação de: Cloughie em 24 de Agosto de 2019, 21:43
Citação de: Faliro em 24 de Agosto de 2019, 21:42
What
the
Fuck
?
Stubborn Manager + President's shitty management = Getting Asskicked by Porto for the 14729462957th time.
Happens with Zvezda too. We have a much better team but then we come out against Partizan looking anemic and not hungry at all, while they are fired up as hell.
LFV is a disaster. Scrooge McDuck of Benfica.
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/YZGJc1WmUZPi0/giphy.gif?cid=790b761165e2b664a07ac0ed2f75efc7aba6aff73b65e257&rid=giphy.gif)
Citação de: StellaRojas em 24 de Agosto de 2019, 22:56
Citação de: Cloughie em 24 de Agosto de 2019, 21:43
Citação de: Faliro em 24 de Agosto de 2019, 21:42
What
the
Fuck
?
Stubborn Manager + President's shitty management = Getting Asskicked by Porto for the 14729462957th time.
Happens with Zvezda too. We have a much better team but then we come out against Partizan looking anemic and not hungry at all, while they are fired up as hell.
LFV is a disaster. Scrooge McDuck of Benfica.
(https://media1.giphy.com/media/YZGJc1WmUZPi0/giphy.gif?cid=790b761165e2b664a07ac0ed2f75efc7aba6aff73b65e257&rid=giphy.gif)
At least Scrooge McDuck can be good from times to times. Vieira is a mixture of a Rockfeller (never mind which one) with Josef Stalin, if such mixture of person exists.
I think a part of the problem is also this.. Imagine this hypothetical ideal Benfica president who has decided to spend 45 milion euros on, say, Sergej Milinkovic Savic. Do you think he would gladly play Tugao or consider it a step back in his career? Notwithstanding Benfica and its present and historical success. The majority of players who could play in top 5 leagues would not consider Portuguese league. And South American or ex-Yu cats in the sack are not worth that money.
So the option is to rely on homegrown players, try luck with South Americans and ex-yu. The problem is that Benfica is profit-minded as the cases of Bernardo and Jovix show. It is about protecting its investment and not patience. And it does not seem to have a coach capable of turning ex-yu or South American raw material into gold.
That is my opinion as an outsider.
Citação de: StellaRojas em 28 de Agosto de 2019, 15:16
I think a part of the problem is also this.. Imagine this hypothetical ideal Benfica president who has decided to spend 45 milion euros on, say, Sergej Milinkovic Savic. Do you think he would gladly play Tugao or consider it a step back in his career? Notwithstanding Benfica and its present and historical success. The majority of players who could play in top 5 leagues would not consider Portuguese league. And South American or ex-Yu cats in the sack are not worth that money.
So the option is to rely on homegrown players, try luck with South Americans and ex-yu. The problem is that Benfica is profit-minded as the cases of Bernardo and Jovix show. It is about protecting its investment and not patience. And it does not seem to have a coach capable of turning ex-yu or South American raw material into gold.
That is my opinion as an outsider.
That is true, but we are not asking for a world superstar or anything, we would be more than happy with 2 or 3 signings for the positions that are clear weaknesses in our squad.
We could easily drop 20, 25m and try to sign Dani Olmo who would be an amazing asset in every single way (fantastic yet young, playing in a weaker league than ours, perfect for the role Felix played last year), but the president and diretion do not know shit about football and do not care if we have a great squad capable of fighting in the Champions League or an okay squad that might be just good enough to edge the title, no ambition whatsoever.
Citação de: oscarense em 28 de Agosto de 2019, 15:32
Citação de: StellaRojas em 28 de Agosto de 2019, 15:16
I think a part of the problem is also this.. Imagine this hypothetical ideal Benfica president who has decided to spend 45 milion euros on, say, Sergej Milinkovic Savic. Do you think he would gladly play Tugao or consider it a step back in his career? Notwithstanding Benfica and its present and historical success. The majority of players who could play in top 5 leagues would not consider Portuguese league. And South American or ex-Yu cats in the sack are not worth that money.
So the option is to rely on homegrown players, try luck with South Americans and ex-yu. The problem is that Benfica is profit-minded as the cases of Bernardo and Jovix show. It is about protecting its investment and not patience. And it does not seem to have a coach capable of turning ex-yu or South American raw material into gold.
That is my opinion as an outsider.
That is true, but we are not asking for a world superstar or anything, we would be more than happy with 2 or 3 signings for the positions that are clear weaknesses in our squad.
We could easily drop 20, 25m and try to sign Dani Olmo who would be an amazing asset in every single way (fantastic yet young, playing in a weaker league than ours, perfect for the role Felix played last year), but the president and diretion do not know shit about football and do not care if we have a great squad capable of fighting in the Champions League or an okay squad that might be just good enough to edge the title, no ambition whatsoever.
Yes, I agree. Even with average players used correctly you can do a lot as demonstrated by Zvezda. And Benfica can afford a lot more. Chiquinho, Raul, Morenierense guy? Not enough. Heads would be flying here.
Citação de: oscarense em 28 de Agosto de 2019, 15:32
Citação de: StellaRojas em 28 de Agosto de 2019, 15:16
I think a part of the problem is also this.. Imagine this hypothetical ideal Benfica president who has decided to spend 45 milion euros on, say, Sergej Milinkovic Savic. Do you think he would gladly play Tugao or consider it a step back in his career? Notwithstanding Benfica and its present and historical success. The majority of players who could play in top 5 leagues would not consider Portuguese league. And South American or ex-Yu cats in the sack are not worth that money.
So the option is to rely on homegrown players, try luck with South Americans and ex-yu. The problem is that Benfica is profit-minded as the cases of Bernardo and Jovix show. It is about protecting its investment and not patience. And it does not seem to have a coach capable of turning ex-yu or South American raw material into gold.
That is my opinion as an outsider.
That is true, but we are not asking for a world superstar or anything, we would be more than happy with 2 or 3 signings for the positions that are clear weaknesses in our squad.
We could easily drop 20, 25m and try to sign Dani Olmo who would be an amazing asset in every single way (fantastic yet young, playing in a weaker league than ours, perfect for the role Felix played last year), but the president and diretion do not know shit about football and do not care if we have a great squad capable of fighting in the Champions League or an okay squad that might be just good enough to edge the title, no ambition whatsoever.
Your president knows he will not catch any heat for lack of ambition. If he had fans outside his family home every night screaming at him to respect Benfica's history and make some decent signings.. he may change his mind.
https://youtu.be/pHTWvT77U4g
Benfica victory yesterday against Sporting in Alvalade.
How good is Jota guys?
Citação de: Faliro em 27 de Abril de 2020, 11:54
How good is Jota guys?
Very good. A lot better than Cervi but our coach can't see it.
Citação de: Covenant em 27 de Abril de 2020, 13:11
Citação de: Faliro em 27 de Abril de 2020, 11:54
How good is Jota guys?
Very good. A lot better than Cervi but our coach can't see it.
How would you compare him to Gil Dias or Podence?
Citação de: Faliro em 27 de Abril de 2020, 15:09
Citação de: Covenant em 27 de Abril de 2020, 13:11
Citação de: Faliro em 27 de Abril de 2020, 11:54
How good is Jota guys?
Very good. A lot better than Cervi but our coach can't see it.
How would you compare him to Gil Dias or Podence?
More potencial for sure. He have everything. But he is also famous about his ego apparently.
Citação de: Covenant em 27 de Abril de 2020, 17:19
Citação de: Faliro em 27 de Abril de 2020, 15:09
Citação de: Covenant em 27 de Abril de 2020, 13:11
Citação de: Faliro em 27 de Abril de 2020, 11:54
How good is Jota guys?
Very good. A lot better than Cervi but our coach can't see it.
How would you compare him to Gil Dias or Podence?
More potencial for sure. He have everything. But he is also famous about his ego apparently.
Interesting. There were bits and pieces I liked of Gil Dias but he had many deficiencies also. Podence too - hot and cold. This Jota sounds interesting.
Your stadium to be used for the CL knockout games?
Citação de: Red Eyes em 24 de Junho de 2020, 00:48
I feel so ashamed of my own club.
Saw the last 20 mins of yesterday's game. The team was running round like headless chickens. What happened to the team?????
Citação de: Faliro em 24 de Junho de 2020, 12:29
Citação de: Red Eyes em 24 de Junho de 2020, 00:48
I feel so ashamed of my own club.
Saw the last 20 mins of yesterday's game. The team was running round like headless chickens. What happened to the team?????
Low level president, low level coach, low level captains. That's what happened. And at least two of those three, have been happening for the past 5 years. No team resists to such continued boycott.
Citação de: Schweisen Tiger em 24 de Junho de 2020, 14:16
Citação de: Faliro em 24 de Junho de 2020, 12:29
Citação de: Red Eyes em 24 de Junho de 2020, 00:48
I feel so ashamed of my own club.
Saw the last 20 mins of yesterday's game. The team was running round like headless chickens. What happened to the team?????
Low level president, low level coach, low level captains. That's what happened. And at least two of those three, have been happening for the past 5 years. No team resists to such continued boycott.
We don't need supporters like you! Please refrain from going to the stadium to watch our home games... :disgust:
Total collapse.
Jorge Jesus is back...
Citação de: Faliro em 20 de Julho de 2020, 11:46
Citação de: Covenant em 20 de Julho de 2020, 08:11
Jorge Jesus is back...
You sound ecstatic.
Mixed feelings. He knows A LOT about football but he also have a lot of problems.
To be honest, reading the Portuguese sections of this forum for years, I would not have thought him coming back was viable.
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Citação de: Faliro em 21 de Julho de 2020, 20:05
To be honest, reading the Portuguese sections of this forum for years, I would not have thought him coming back was viable.
It's election's time! And besides, old dogs can't learn new tricks...
Open TV, the Greek FTA station owned by Savvidis, will have the game for free if you can get it.
Is the Benfica kit orange or is my TV fucked?
Citação de: Faliro em 15 de Setembro de 2020, 18:59
Is the Benfica kit orange or is my TV fucked?
Watermelon red.
We have to
lidate.
Difficult game. PAOK rode the Benfica pressure first half and countered effectively second. JJ got the tactics wrong imo. The Benfica team also needs reshaping. The wings were not being used effectively. Also Benfica's striker imo is not good enough for Benfica.
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Setembro de 2020, 08:58
Difficult game. PAOK rode the Benfica pressure first half and countered effectively second. JJ got the tactics wrong imo. The Benfica team also needs reshaping. The wings were not being used effectively. Also Benfica's striker imo is not good enough for Benfica.
Seferovic is not good for anyone. The funny thing is, Benfica paid almost 60M for the other 3 strikers sitting on the bench.
Citação de: Iron Mask em 16 de Setembro de 2020, 19:39
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Setembro de 2020, 08:58
Difficult game. PAOK rode the Benfica pressure first half and countered effectively second. JJ got the tactics wrong imo. The Benfica team also needs reshaping. The wings were not being used effectively. Also Benfica's striker imo is not good enough for Benfica.
Seferovic is not good for anyone. The funny thing is, paid almost 60M for the other 3 strikers sitting on the bench.
In that case JJ underestimated PAOK. PAOK are inferior to Benfica but Benfica needed to play their strongest team vs PAOK like Olympiacos do when we play them.
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Setembro de 2020, 20:07
Citação de: Iron Mask em 16 de Setembro de 2020, 19:39
Citação de: Faliro em 16 de Setembro de 2020, 08:58
Difficult game. PAOK rode the Benfica pressure first half and countered effectively second. JJ got the tactics wrong imo. The Benfica team also needs reshaping. The wings were not being used effectively. Also Benfica's striker imo is not good enough for Benfica.
Seferovic is not good for anyone. The funny thing is, paid almost 60M for the other 3 strikers sitting on the bench.
In that case JJ underestimated PAOK. PAOK are inferior to Benfica but Benfica needed to play their strongest team vs PAOK like Olympiacos do when we play them.
Well why Seferovic starts every match with the third manager in a row is one of Benfica biggest mysteries.
Joke of a club.
Citação de: Calcio em 09 de Novembro de 2020, 12:15
Joke of a club.
Can you give me a brief synopsis. Looked at the results this weekend, what is happening? Manager? Owner? Poor signings? All the above?
Citação de: Faliro em 09 de Novembro de 2020, 17:27
Citação de: Calcio em 09 de Novembro de 2020, 12:15
Joke of a club.
Can you give me a brief synopsis. Looked at the results this weekend, what is happening? Manager? Owner? Poor signings? All the above?
All and more.... It seems like it, but we don´t have a owner... We have a President.
Citação de: Covenant em 09 de Novembro de 2020, 17:31
Citação de: Faliro em 09 de Novembro de 2020, 17:27
Citação de: Calcio em 09 de Novembro de 2020, 12:15
Joke of a club.
Can you give me a brief synopsis. Looked at the results this weekend, what is happening? Manager? Owner? Poor signings? All the above?
All and more.... It seems like it, but we don´t have a owner... We have a President.
Best and worst signings this summer?
Citação de: Faliro em 09 de Novembro de 2020, 17:49
Citação de: Covenant em 09 de Novembro de 2020, 17:31
Citação de: Faliro em 09 de Novembro de 2020, 17:27
Citação de: Calcio em 09 de Novembro de 2020, 12:15
Joke of a club.
Can you give me a brief synopsis. Looked at the results this weekend, what is happening? Manager? Owner? Poor signings? All the above?
All and more.... It seems like it, but we don´t have a owner... We have a President.
Best and worst signings this summer?
Best signings - - > Darwin and Waldschmidt
Worst signings - - > Otamendi and Gilberto.
But the problem is in a higher place. The President. But the even bigger problem are the supporters that made the wrong choice in October. Maybe someone have time to explain everything but Benfica is a very strange club nowadays...
Basically the "true Benfica" is sleeping since 1994.
https://youtu.be/_ru4akTSNFs
Citação de: Covenant em 11 de Novembro de 2020, 16:41
Basically the "true Benfica" is sleeping since 1994.
https://youtu.be/_ru4akTSNFs
The opening shot could be Greece. What happened in your opinion?
Citação de: Faliro em 12 de Novembro de 2020, 17:33
Citação de: Covenant em 11 de Novembro de 2020, 16:41
Basically the "true Benfica" is sleeping since 1994.
https://youtu.be/_ru4akTSNFs
The opening shot could be Greece. What happened in your opinion?
Bad President after bad President.
Now the supporters have fear of "another Vale e Azevedo". They talk about gratitude. Nothing that happens is President fault.
The President said some outrageous things in the last couple of months but the people in theirs 60s, 70s or 80s don't change the mindset. It's sad.
Benfica is sick. Please pray for him.
Benfica need a reset.
I don't like the president, I don't like the board, I don't like the coach, I don't like the players and the most part of the fans make me sick.
Citação de: Faliro em 25 de Janeiro de 2021, 20:08
Citação de: Covenant em 25 de Janeiro de 2021, 19:31
Benfica is sick. Please pray for him.
Expand please.
You have all here. VERY Good video.
https://youtu.be/rxEc0rJML44
What you think Faliro?
Citação de: Covenant em 12 de Fevereiro de 2021, 23:10
Citação de: Faliro em 25 de Janeiro de 2021, 20:08
Citação de: Covenant em 25 de Janeiro de 2021, 19:31
Benfica is sick. Please pray for him.
Expand please.
You have all here. VERY Good video.
https://youtu.be/rxEc0rJML44
mmm :crazy2:
I think the guy (and the leftwing guy who compared Benfica TV to Fox News instead of CNN) over-intellectualised Benfica's recent demise. They spent what seemed an eternity describing all the big names Benfica has sold. It matters not. What matters is the president is not running the club for the fans. It is up to the fans to get rid of him. For whatever reason they didn't.. So..
Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Fevereiro de 2021, 22:24
Citação de: Covenant em 12 de Fevereiro de 2021, 23:10
Citação de: Faliro em 25 de Janeiro de 2021, 20:08
Citação de: Covenant em 25 de Janeiro de 2021, 19:31
Benfica is sick. Please pray for him.
Expand please.
You have all here. VERY Good video.
https://youtu.be/rxEc0rJML44
mmm :crazy2:
I think the guy (and the leftwing guy who compared Benfica TV to Fox News instead of CNN) over-intellectualised Benfica's recent demise. They spent what seemed an eternity describing all the big names Benfica has sold. It matters not. What matters is the president is not running the club for the fans. It is up to the fans to get rid of him. For whatever reason they didn't.. So..
These elections were a fraud.
I was delegated and I can say that they were really a fraud.
Citação de: Covenant em 14 de Fevereiro de 2021, 23:12
Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Fevereiro de 2021, 22:24
Citação de: Covenant em 12 de Fevereiro de 2021, 23:10
Citação de: Faliro em 25 de Janeiro de 2021, 20:08
Citação de: Covenant em 25 de Janeiro de 2021, 19:31
Benfica is sick. Please pray for him.
Expand please.
You have all here. VERY Good video.
https://youtu.be/rxEc0rJML44
mmm :crazy2:
I think the guy (and the leftwing guy who compared Benfica TV to Fox News instead of CNN) over-intellectualised Benfica's recent demise. They spent what seemed an eternity describing all the big names Benfica has sold. It matters not. What matters is the president is not running the club for the fans. It is up to the fans to get rid of him. For whatever reason they didn't.. So..
These elections were a fraud.
I was delegated and I can say that they were really a fraud.
You did a poll on this forum to see how everyone voted?
Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Fevereiro de 2021, 23:21
Citação de: Covenant em 14 de Fevereiro de 2021, 23:12
Citação de: Faliro em 14 de Fevereiro de 2021, 22:24
Citação de: Covenant em 12 de Fevereiro de 2021, 23:10
Citação de: Faliro em 25 de Janeiro de 2021, 20:08
Citação de: Covenant em 25 de Janeiro de 2021, 19:31
Benfica is sick. Please pray for him.
Expand please.
You have all here. VERY Good video.
https://youtu.be/rxEc0rJML44
mmm :crazy2:
I think the guy (and the leftwing guy who compared Benfica TV to Fox News instead of CNN) over-intellectualised Benfica's recent demise. They spent what seemed an eternity describing all the big names Benfica has sold. It matters not. What matters is the president is not running the club for the fans. It is up to the fans to get rid of him. For whatever reason they didn't.. So..
These elections were a fraud.
I was delegated and I can say that they were really a fraud.
You did a poll on this forum to see how everyone voted?
Yeah, almost everyone voted João Noronha Lopes.
Was on a high after the Olympiacos game. Decided to watch Benfica.. big mistake. Fell asleep half way through. Total shit show. The team is disjointed.
Citação de: Faliro em 18 de Fevereiro de 2021, 22:51
Was on a high after the Olympiacos game. Decided to watch Benfica.. big mistake. Fell asleep half way through. Total shit show. The team is disjointed.
The club is nowadays a total shit show.
Brief summary of your most interesting signings?
Citação de: Faliro em 22 de Julho de 2021, 21:45
Brief summary of your most interesting signings?
Vieira's arrest.
What are the charges?
Citação de: Faliro em 23 de Julho de 2021, 04:52
What are the charges?
One of them is stealing the club, something we already knew for several years, but I'm sure someone will explain all the charges.
Citação de: Faliro em 23 de Julho de 2021, 04:52
What are the charges?
There are strong evidences that, with the help of an agent, €2,5M paid in commissions were sent to his account and his son's, via offshores, to use on their enterprises. But we strongly believe that this money is only the beginning. There is an almost infinite number of negotiations in the past that "stink". Players with no relevance bought by 3/4M, players bought paying a value over their release clause and so on.
And what about negotiations involving Jorge Mendes? I'm sure that a lot of "strange" things happened there.
Besides this, it is now known also that he was trying to sell 25% of the SAD (don't know the name in english, but something like anonymous sport society) to an american business man, John Textor.
Last but not the least, he allowed our greatest enemy, Pinto da Costa, to record a documentary in our stadium. And we were not told about that, obviously.
Even with all these unbelievable things, there are still a lot of persons that I don't know how to define defending him and claiming we should show gratitude to him (ahahah). They strongly believe Rui Costa and all the other members of the board knew nothing about this. Yeah, right :2funny:
So new elections?
Citação de: Faliro em 28 de Julho de 2021, 20:19
So new elections?
Hopefully, but as of now, we have only been told, by the board, that the elections will take place "until the end of the year". No concrete date.
Further, a group of supporters has been trying to convoke an "assembly" (do not know if that is the right name in English, but it basically a meeting between the board and the paying supporters) to discuss, specifically, new guidelines for the elections, as there is a strong suspicion that the last one was stolen, since no one, besides the board itself, had access to the voting system, etc.
And of course, the "new" board (which is basically the same people except for the former president) has been trying to postpone said assembly, as much as they can, claiming that they are waiting for an answer by the DGS (Directorate-General of Health, the institution in charge with covid related issues), which everyone knows is just another bullshit. Also, they are now saying that they will count the physical votes of the past elections (10 months after), in another pathetic attempt at not having the assembly, which they are legally required to.
All while the "ministers of the Vieira's regime propaganda" keep spouting nonsensical bullshit like "we need to be grateful for what Vieira did for the club" and "we need to be united".
Total shit show.
Citação de: Castro_SLB em 28 de Julho de 2021, 20:34
Citação de: Faliro em 28 de Julho de 2021, 20:19
So new elections?
Hopefully, but as of now, we have only been told, by the board, that the elections will take place "until the end of the year". No concrete date.
Further, a group of supporters has been trying to convoke an "assembly" (do not know if that is the right name in English, but it basically a meeting between the board and the paying supporters) to discuss, specifically, new guidelines for the elections, as there is a strong suspicion that the last one was stolen, since no one, besides the board itself, had access to the voting system, etc.
And of course, the "new" board (which is basically the same people except for the former president) has been trying to postpone said assembly, as much as they can, claiming that they are waiting for an answer by the DGS (Directorate-General of Health, the institution in charge with covid related issues), which everyone knows is just another bullshit. Also, they are now saying that they will count the physical votes of the past elections (10 months after), in another pathetic attempt at not having the assembly, which they are legally required to.
All while the "ministers of the Vieira's regime propaganda" keep spouting nonsensical bullshit like "we need to be grateful for what Vieira did for the club" and "we need to be united".
Total shit show.
Complete shit show. He clearly owns most the board. You need an operacao levajato type thing where you wash out all the dirt at once.
Citação de: Faliro em 28 de Julho de 2021, 23:50
Citação de: Castro_SLB em 28 de Julho de 2021, 20:34
Citação de: Faliro em 28 de Julho de 2021, 20:19
So new elections?
Hopefully, but as of now, we have only been told, by the board, that the elections will take place "until the end of the year". No concrete date.
Further, a group of supporters has been trying to convoke an "assembly" (do not know if that is the right name in English, but it basically a meeting between the board and the paying supporters) to discuss, specifically, new guidelines for the elections, as there is a strong suspicion that the last one was stolen, since no one, besides the board itself, had access to the voting system, etc.
And of course, the "new" board (which is basically the same people except for the former president) has been trying to postpone said assembly, as much as they can, claiming that they are waiting for an answer by the DGS (Directorate-General of Health, the institution in charge with covid related issues), which everyone knows is just another bullshit. Also, they are now saying that they will count the physical votes of the past elections (10 months after), in another pathetic attempt at not having the assembly, which they are legally required to.
All while the "ministers of the Vieira's regime propaganda" keep spouting nonsensical bullshit like "we need to be grateful for what Vieira did for the club" and "we need to be united".
Total shit show.
Complete shit show. He clearly owns most the board. You need an operacao levajato type thing where you wash out all the dirt at once.
We really do.
And now, the board has communicated that they will carry an "internal investigation" into Vieira's conduct. Problem is, at least 2 members of the board are also under suspicion for aiding Vieira. More specifically, Domingos Soares Oliveira, who is the guy in charge of the finances, signed the contracts now under investigation. As for the rest of the board (Rui Costa included) either they were connivent, or they did not know what was going on. Either way, they have to go.
Right now, the board is acting like Hitler in his last days. They're holding dear to their positions in the club, doing as much as they can to maintain things as they are. It is a waiting game now.
Citação de: Castro_SLB em 29 de Julho de 2021, 00:15
Citação de: Faliro em 28 de Julho de 2021, 23:50
Citação de: Castro_SLB em 28 de Julho de 2021, 20:34
Citação de: Faliro em 28 de Julho de 2021, 20:19
So new elections?
Hopefully, but as of now, we have only been told, by the board, that the elections will take place "until the end of the year". No concrete date.
Further, a group of supporters has been trying to convoke an "assembly" (do not know if that is the right name in English, but it basically a meeting between the board and the paying supporters) to discuss, specifically, new guidelines for the elections, as there is a strong suspicion that the last one was stolen, since no one, besides the board itself, had access to the voting system, etc.
And of course, the "new" board (which is basically the same people except for the former president) has been trying to postpone said assembly, as much as they can, claiming that they are waiting for an answer by the DGS (Directorate-General of Health, the institution in charge with covid related issues), which everyone knows is just another bullshit. Also, they are now saying that they will count the physical votes of the past elections (10 months after), in another pathetic attempt at not having the assembly, which they are legally required to.
All while the "ministers of the Vieira's regime propaganda" keep spouting nonsensical bullshit like "we need to be grateful for what Vieira did for the club" and "we need to be united".
Total shit show.
Complete shit show. He clearly owns most the board. You need an operacao levajato type thing where you wash out all the dirt at once.
We really do.
And now, the board has communicated that they will carry an "internal investigation" into Vieira's conduct. Problem is, at least 2 members of the board are also under suspicion for aiding Vieira. More specifically, Domingos Soares Oliveira, who is the guy in charge of the finances, signed the contracts now under investigation. As for the rest of the board (Rui Costa included) either they were connivent, or they did not know what was going on. Either way, they have to go.
Right now, the board is acting like Hitler in his last days. They're holding dear to their positions in the club, doing as much as they can to maintain things as they are. It is a waiting game now.
Absurd the board is carrying out an internal investigation.. marking their own homework as we say in the UK. Reminds me of when the WHO had the low IQ idea to get Daszak to investigate the Wuhan lab to see whether covid had emerged there - despite Daszak being the one funding the lab.. his investigation lasted 1 day and he simply said "nothing to see here.." ;D
Let's see what happens.
Well played. O0
Biggest european win probably since 05/06 when we defeated Liverpool twice, who was the current european champion at the time (1-0 at home, 2-0 at Anfield).
And we're back being shit. :crazy2:
Yea, but the Goths play hard. It's not really a barometer of the season.
Citação de: Faliro em 03 de Novembro de 2021, 14:37
Yea, but the Goths play hard. It's not really a barometer of the season.
We are being shit for weeks...
They actually fielded 9 players from the beginning?
Citação de: Faliro em 28 de Novembro de 2021, 10:13
They actually fielded 9 players from the beginning?
O0
Citação de: Faliro em 28 de Novembro de 2021, 10:13
They actually fielded 9 players from the beginning?
One goalkeeper playing as a midfielder.
Saw the highlights. What are the feelings among the fans?
Citação de: Faliro em 06 de Abril de 2022, 10:25
Saw the highlights. What are the feelings among the fans?
After the game the feeling was one of resignation. Conformism.
Today I return in a utopian way to believe that it is possible to turn the eliminatory around. The fact that Liverpool have two decisive matches against City could benefit Benfica. Salah and Mané (despite having scored in front of goal) are worn out by the games in the service of their national teams.
At Benfica Ramos he is essential for the balance of the team and must be spared on Saturday's match. They cannot fail on defensive set pieces and avoid errors in the transition to attack.
Benfica big problem is not having a quick 8 in driving and transition, but being the only open goal until the end of the season, they have to "die" on the pitch. They have to repeat 2006.
@Faliro Tsimikas was elected mvp of the match. You could have helped with the positioning of the set pieces.:knuppel2:
Best current Greek player and, if he maintains his level, he will naturally become captain of the national team.
Firstly terrific effort by Benfica in the return game.
The Greek NT teams appear to me to be selected on bribes rather than talent. The paid up LBs are the trash Giannoulis, Tzavellas and Stafylidis. All 3 are garbage. By Tsimikas playing for Liverpool, it was impossible for the EPO to leave him out the squad, but what about those who have already paid their bribes? Well they were all selected too... Nearly every Greek squad the last 4 years has had at least 3 LBs in it.. :2funny: Anything to shit on Olympiacos players.
Tsimikas is a quality player - surrounded by absolute trash in the Greek NT. But last campaign... he didnt even get to play as Giannoulis was preferred because he is not Olympiacos.. Tsimikas, if he does start more, will not be enough to lift Greece as he will be surrounded by AEK trash defenders.. AEK who have one of the worst defences in Greece..
Nunez that good?
Question for a total newb but barring the 90% of people who support whatever their parents did, how do people in Lisbon or outsiders decide to support Benfica vs Sporting or vice versa? Is it class based, political or just one being more successful? I have an idea of it but not 100%.
Citação de: Celticfan em 24 de Junho de 2022, 21:26
Question for a total newb but barring the 90% of people who support whatever their parents did, how do people in Lisbon or outsiders decide to support Benfica vs Sporting or vice versa? Is it class based, political or just one being more successful? I have an idea of it but not 100%.
When Portugal still had obligatory military service (was dismantled in the 00's, but I say this until late 70's/early 80's) people didn't already support a club or they wanted that club to win but didn't really bother about it that much.
Much of that military service was in Lisbon, so people came to Lisbon and started to support one of them(Benfica or Sporting). Since the late 50's Benfica was much more sucessful than Sporting so people from the countryside without a major club (excludes Porto, Guimarães, a bit of Braga but that's it) would be more attracted to support Benfica.
For instance, I'm a northener and my grandpa has been a Porto fan all his life (he is quite old and he went to see Porto in the stadium when he was young) but he went to Lisbon and gained affinity to Belenenses, for instance.
Another thing is that when cycling was a bit of a major/bigger sport in Portugal in the 30's/40's the bigger stars where from Benfica or Sporting, so when listening on the radio people would also choose who they wanted to win and gain affinity towards one or other.
But mainly, people are fans due to parents, but much of that support comes from those decades.
Enviado do meu Redmi 8 através do Tapatalk
What is most Benfica's fans opinions on Graeme Souness? He's loved at Rangers but despised by Celtic. He was a great player but his manager career has been pretty sketchy barring Rangers and a couple of other teams. I only just learned he sold Deco at Benfica.
I do like him as a pundit on sky tv along with Roy Keane.
Citação de: josel em 24 de Junho de 2022, 21:44
Citação de: Celticfan em 24 de Junho de 2022, 21:26
Question for a total newb but barring the 90% of people who support whatever their parents did, how do people in Lisbon or outsiders decide to support Benfica vs Sporting or vice versa? Is it class based, political or just one being more successful? I have an idea of it but not 100%.
When Portugal still had obligatory military service (was dismantled in the 00's, but I say this until late 70's/early 80's) people didn't already support a club or they wanted that club to win but didn't really bother about it that much.
Much of that military service was in Lisbon, so people came to Lisbon and started to support one of them(Benfica or Sporting). Since the late 50's Benfica was much more sucessful than Sporting so people from the countryside without a major club (excludes Porto, Guimarães, a bit of Braga but that's it) would be more attracted to support Benfica.
For instance, I'm a northener and my grandpa has been a Porto fan all his life (he is quite old and he went to see Porto in the stadium when he was young) but he went to Lisbon and gained affinity to Belenenses, for instance.
Another thing is that when cycling was a bit of a major/bigger sport in Portugal in the 30's/40's the bigger stars where from Benfica or Sporting, so when listening on the radio people would also choose who they wanted to win and gain affinity towards one or other.
But mainly, people are fans due to parents, but much of that support comes from those decades.
Enviado do meu Redmi 8 através do Tapatalk
That's the biggest factor for Benfica and Sporting being clubs who have fans all around the country (Benfica way more than Sporting because of Sporting's 50 years with sparse titles) and why Porto is a club of Porto district and not much more than that (Porto were slow to go to Cycling and missed the boom).
Benfica vs Sporting in Volta a Portugal made both clubs national clubs.
Citação de: Celticfan em 27 de Junho de 2022, 02:17
What is most Benfica's fans opinions on Graeme Souness? He's loved at Rangers but despised by Celtic. He was a great player but his manager career has been pretty sketchy barring Rangers and a couple of other teams. I only just learned he sold Deco at Benfica.
I do like him as a pundit on sky tv along with Roy Keane.
He's not liked here.
He plot with a former president (who were arrested for stealing money of the club to pay his yatch, besides other stuff) in order to get rid of João Pinto, in time our biggest player. The avalanche of lack of quality players from British Islands were awful too.
Citação de: Cloughie em 27 de Junho de 2022, 02:21
Citação de: josel em 24 de Junho de 2022, 21:44
Citação de: Celticfan em 24 de Junho de 2022, 21:26
Question for a total newb but barring the 90% of people who support whatever their parents did, how do people in Lisbon or outsiders decide to support Benfica vs Sporting or vice versa? Is it class based, political or just one being more successful? I have an idea of it but not 100%.
When Portugal still had obligatory military service (was dismantled in the 00's, but I say this until late 70's/early 80's) people didn't already support a club or they wanted that club to win but didn't really bother about it that much.
Much of that military service was in Lisbon, so people came to Lisbon and started to support one of them(Benfica or Sporting). Since the late 50's Benfica was much more sucessful than Sporting so people from the countryside without a major club (excludes Porto, Guimarães, a bit of Braga but that's it) would be more attracted to support Benfica.
For instance, I'm a northener and my grandpa has been a Porto fan all his life (he is quite old and he went to see Porto in the stadium when he was young) but he went to Lisbon and gained affinity to Belenenses, for instance.
Another thing is that when cycling was a bit of a major/bigger sport in Portugal in the 30's/40's the bigger stars where from Benfica or Sporting, so when listening on the radio people would also choose who they wanted to win and gain affinity towards one or other.
But mainly, people are fans due to parents, but much of that support comes from those decades.
Enviado do meu Redmi 8 através do Tapatalk
That's the biggest factor for Benfica and Sporting being clubs who have fans all around the country (Benfica way more than Sporting because of Sporting's 50 years with sparse titles) and why Porto is a club of Porto district and not much more than that (Porto were slow to go to Cycling and missed the boom).
Benfica vs Sporting in Volta a Portugal made both clubs national clubs.
Citação de: Celticfan em 27 de Junho de 2022, 02:17
What is most Benfica's fans opinions on Graeme Souness? He's loved at Rangers but despised by Celtic. He was a great player but his manager career has been pretty sketchy barring Rangers and a couple of other teams. I only just learned he sold Deco at Benfica.
I do like him as a pundit on sky tv along with Roy Keane.
He's not liked here.
He plot with a former president (who were arrested for stealing money of the club to pay his yatch, besides other stuff) in order to get rid of João Pinto, in time our biggest player. The avalanche of lack of quality players from British Islands were awful too.
Sounds like a lot of places he went. Have Benfica had many, if any British players?
The Souness era at Rangers is viewed as the start of the decline for Scottish football (not that it was his fault). He was the first manager there to sign foreign players in big quantities and Rangers threw a lot of money at them, taking advantage of English teams being banned from Europe to get quality. Other Scottish clubs started doing the same to try and keep up, in turn abandoning their youth systems in the early 90s and meaning their youth coaches were stuck with old school mind sets. He was still successful at Rangers though in the 90s and so was his successor Walter Smith as they won 9 titles in a row.
For all the money they spent though (Rangers were one of the biggest spenders in Britain in the late 80s till around 2000) and quality of player they signed they vastly underachieved in Europe.
Citação de: Celticfan em 27 de Junho de 2022, 03:11
Citação de: Cloughie em 27 de Junho de 2022, 02:21
Citação de: josel em 24 de Junho de 2022, 21:44
Citação de: Celticfan em 24 de Junho de 2022, 21:26
Question for a total newb but barring the 90% of people who support whatever their parents did, how do people in Lisbon or outsiders decide to support Benfica vs Sporting or vice versa? Is it class based, political or just one being more successful? I have an idea of it but not 100%.
When Portugal still had obligatory military service (was dismantled in the 00's, but I say this until late 70's/early 80's) people didn't already support a club or they wanted that club to win but didn't really bother about it that much.
Much of that military service was in Lisbon, so people came to Lisbon and started to support one of them(Benfica or Sporting). Since the late 50's Benfica was much more sucessful than Sporting so people from the countryside without a major club (excludes Porto, Guimarães, a bit of Braga but that's it) would be more attracted to support Benfica.
For instance, I'm a northener and my grandpa has been a Porto fan all his life (he is quite old and he went to see Porto in the stadium when he was young) but he went to Lisbon and gained affinity to Belenenses, for instance.
Another thing is that when cycling was a bit of a major/bigger sport in Portugal in the 30's/40's the bigger stars where from Benfica or Sporting, so when listening on the radio people would also choose who they wanted to win and gain affinity towards one or other.
But mainly, people are fans due to parents, but much of that support comes from those decades.
Enviado do meu Redmi 8 através do Tapatalk
That's the biggest factor for Benfica and Sporting being clubs who have fans all around the country (Benfica way more than Sporting because of Sporting's 50 years with sparse titles) and why Porto is a club of Porto district and not much more than that (Porto were slow to go to Cycling and missed the boom).
Benfica vs Sporting in Volta a Portugal made both clubs national clubs.
Citação de: Celticfan em 27 de Junho de 2022, 02:17
What is most Benfica's fans opinions on Graeme Souness? He's loved at Rangers but despised by Celtic. He was a great player but his manager career has been pretty sketchy barring Rangers and a couple of other teams. I only just learned he sold Deco at Benfica.
I do like him as a pundit on sky tv along with Roy Keane.
He's not liked here.
He plot with a former president (who were arrested for stealing money of the club to pay his yatch, besides other stuff) in order to get rid of João Pinto, in time our biggest player. The avalanche of lack of quality players from British Islands were awful too.
Sounds like a lot of places he went. Have Benfica had many, if any British players?
The Souness era at Rangers is viewed as the start of the decline for Scottish football (not that it was his fault). He was the first manager there to sign foreign players in big quantities and Rangers threw a lot of money at them, taking advantage of English teams being banned from Europe to get quality. Other Scottish clubs started doing the same to try and keep up, in turn abandoning their youth systems in the early 90s and meaning their youth coaches were stuck with old school mind sets. He was still successful at Rangers though in the 90s and so was his successor Walter Smith as they won 9 titles in a row.
For all the money they spent though (Rangers were one of the biggest spenders in Britain in the late 80s till around 2000) and quality of player they signed they vastly underachieved in Europe.
On Souness years:
1997/1998: Scott Minto, Brian Deane
1998/1999: Gary Chales, Steve Harkness, Michael Thomas, Mark Pembridge, Dean Saunders
Also, Benfica is the club of the people, Sporting is mainly linked to that very "chic" part of the society, to some elitism, those persons with a lot of names, descending from the kings and so on ;D
Historically, Benfica is linked to more humble people, is passion at its most natural. Sporting is more elitist. We use to make fun of their names, just like "he really has a Sporting fan's name".
Citação de: Cloughie em 27 de Junho de 2022, 04:30
Citação de: Celticfan em 27 de Junho de 2022, 03:11
Citação de: Cloughie em 27 de Junho de 2022, 02:21
Citação de: josel em 24 de Junho de 2022, 21:44
Citação de: Celticfan em 24 de Junho de 2022, 21:26
Question for a total newb but barring the 90% of people who support whatever their parents did, how do people in Lisbon or outsiders decide to support Benfica vs Sporting or vice versa? Is it class based, political or just one being more successful? I have an idea of it but not 100%.
When Portugal still had obligatory military service (was dismantled in the 00's, but I say this until late 70's/early 80's) people didn't already support a club or they wanted that club to win but didn't really bother about it that much.
Much of that military service was in Lisbon, so people came to Lisbon and started to support one of them(Benfica or Sporting). Since the late 50's Benfica was much more sucessful than Sporting so people from the countryside without a major club (excludes Porto, Guimarães, a bit of Braga but that's it) would be more attracted to support Benfica.
For instance, I'm a northener and my grandpa has been a Porto fan all his life (he is quite old and he went to see Porto in the stadium when he was young) but he went to Lisbon and gained affinity to Belenenses, for instance.
Another thing is that when cycling was a bit of a major/bigger sport in Portugal in the 30's/40's the bigger stars where from Benfica or Sporting, so when listening on the radio people would also choose who they wanted to win and gain affinity towards one or other.
But mainly, people are fans due to parents, but much of that support comes from those decades.
Enviado do meu Redmi 8 através do Tapatalk
That's the biggest factor for Benfica and Sporting being clubs who have fans all around the country (Benfica way more than Sporting because of Sporting's 50 years with sparse titles) and why Porto is a club of Porto district and not much more than that (Porto were slow to go to Cycling and missed the boom).
Benfica vs Sporting in Volta a Portugal made both clubs national clubs.
Citação de: Celticfan em 27 de Junho de 2022, 02:17
What is most Benfica's fans opinions on Graeme Souness? He's loved at Rangers but despised by Celtic. He was a great player but his manager career has been pretty sketchy barring Rangers and a couple of other teams. I only just learned he sold Deco at Benfica.
I do like him as a pundit on sky tv along with Roy Keane.
He's not liked here.
He plot with a former president (who were arrested for stealing money of the club to pay his yatch, besides other stuff) in order to get rid of João Pinto, in time our biggest player. The avalanche of lack of quality players from British Islands were awful too.
Sounds like a lot of places he went. Have Benfica had many, if any British players?
The Souness era at Rangers is viewed as the start of the decline for Scottish football (not that it was his fault). He was the first manager there to sign foreign players in big quantities and Rangers threw a lot of money at them, taking advantage of English teams being banned from Europe to get quality. Other Scottish clubs started doing the same to try and keep up, in turn abandoning their youth systems in the early 90s and meaning their youth coaches were stuck with old school mind sets. He was still successful at Rangers though in the 90s and so was his successor Walter Smith as they won 9 titles in a row.
For all the money they spent though (Rangers were one of the biggest spenders in Britain in the late 80s till around 2000) and quality of player they signed they vastly underachieved in Europe.
On Souness years:
1997/1998: Scott Minto, Brian Deane
1998/1999: Gary Chales, Steve Harkness, Michael Thomas, Mark Pembridge, Dean Saunders
I've never heard of most of them apart from Saunders who must have been old by then. Brutal
Citação de: SousaLB em 27 de Junho de 2022, 11:54
Also, Benfica is the club of the people, Sporting is mainly linked to that very "chic" part of the society, to some elitism, those persons with a lot of names, descending from the kings and so on ;D
Historically, Benfica is linked to more humble people, is passion at its most natural. Sporting is more elitist. We use to make fun of their names, just like "he really has a Sporting fan's name".
Without being too political. How were Portuguese clubs treated under Salazar? Was it like in Spain under Franco where there was a favourite/disliked club? Or the equivalent of the monarchy/elites club?
I honestly don't know too much about Salazar, it doesn't get talked as much internationally compared to other European authoritarian figures. Is he viewed as widely despised now like Franco or do some people still admire him?
Citação de: Celticfan em 27 de Junho de 2022, 15:12
Citação de: SousaLB em 27 de Junho de 2022, 11:54
Also, Benfica is the club of the people, Sporting is mainly linked to that very "chic" part of the society, to some elitism, those persons with a lot of names, descending from the kings and so on ;D
Historically, Benfica is linked to more humble people, is passion at its most natural. Sporting is more elitist. We use to make fun of their names, just like "he really has a Sporting fan's name".
Without being too political. How were Portuguese clubs treated under Salazar? Was it like in Spain under Franco where there was a favourite/disliked club? Or the equivalent of the monarchy/elites club?
I honestly don't know too much about Salazar, it doesn't get talked as much internationally compared to other European authoritarian figures. Is he viewed as widely despised now like Franco or do some people still admire him?
Benfica got the fame, the others got the rewards.
Porto and Sporting were the protected ones, even got public benefits (the Statue of Public Utility was given to them way before Benfica), they had people from the government leading the club and even Sporting was in the old version of Champions League because of the government, even though the champion was Benfica.
Salazar won the Greatest Portuguese contest, so... there's your answer. ;D
Citação de: Celticfan em 27 de Junho de 2022, 15:06
Citação de: Cloughie em 27 de Junho de 2022, 04:30
Citação de: Celticfan em 27 de Junho de 2022, 03:11
Citação de: Cloughie em 27 de Junho de 2022, 02:21
Citação de: josel em 24 de Junho de 2022, 21:44
Citação de: Celticfan em 24 de Junho de 2022, 21:26
Question for a total newb but barring the 90% of people who support whatever their parents did, how do people in Lisbon or outsiders decide to support Benfica vs Sporting or vice versa? Is it class based, political or just one being more successful? I have an idea of it but not 100%.
When Portugal still had obligatory military service (was dismantled in the 00's, but I say this until late 70's/early 80's) people didn't already support a club or they wanted that club to win but didn't really bother about it that much.
Much of that military service was in Lisbon, so people came to Lisbon and started to support one of them(Benfica or Sporting). Since the late 50's Benfica was much more sucessful than Sporting so people from the countryside without a major club (excludes Porto, Guimarães, a bit of Braga but that's it) would be more attracted to support Benfica.
For instance, I'm a northener and my grandpa has been a Porto fan all his life (he is quite old and he went to see Porto in the stadium when he was young) but he went to Lisbon and gained affinity to Belenenses, for instance.
Another thing is that when cycling was a bit of a major/bigger sport in Portugal in the 30's/40's the bigger stars where from Benfica or Sporting, so when listening on the radio people would also choose who they wanted to win and gain affinity towards one or other.
But mainly, people are fans due to parents, but much of that support comes from those decades.
Enviado do meu Redmi 8 através do Tapatalk
That's the biggest factor for Benfica and Sporting being clubs who have fans all around the country (Benfica way more than Sporting because of Sporting's 50 years with sparse titles) and why Porto is a club of Porto district and not much more than that (Porto were slow to go to Cycling and missed the boom).
Benfica vs Sporting in Volta a Portugal made both clubs national clubs.
Citação de: Celticfan em 27 de Junho de 2022, 02:17
What is most Benfica's fans opinions on Graeme Souness? He's loved at Rangers but despised by Celtic. He was a great player but his manager career has been pretty sketchy barring Rangers and a couple of other teams. I only just learned he sold Deco at Benfica.
I do like him as a pundit on sky tv along with Roy Keane.
He's not liked here.
He plot with a former president (who were arrested for stealing money of the club to pay his yatch, besides other stuff) in order to get rid of João Pinto, in time our biggest player. The avalanche of lack of quality players from British Islands were awful too.
Sounds like a lot of places he went. Have Benfica had many, if any British players?
The Souness era at Rangers is viewed as the start of the decline for Scottish football (not that it was his fault). He was the first manager there to sign foreign players in big quantities and Rangers threw a lot of money at them, taking advantage of English teams being banned from Europe to get quality. Other Scottish clubs started doing the same to try and keep up, in turn abandoning their youth systems in the early 90s and meaning their youth coaches were stuck with old school mind sets. He was still successful at Rangers though in the 90s and so was his successor Walter Smith as they won 9 titles in a row.
For all the money they spent though (Rangers were one of the biggest spenders in Britain in the late 80s till around 2000) and quality of player they signed they vastly underachieved in Europe.
On Souness years:
1997/1998: Scott Minto, Brian Deane
1998/1999: Gary Chales, Steve Harkness, Michael Thomas, Mark Pembridge, Dean Saunders
I've never heard of most of them apart from Saunders who must have been old by then. Brutal
Minto and Deane were good players, even if Deane was already 31/32 yo.
Pembridge and Saunders were decent (Saunders was already 34 - I believe he was a good striker when he was younger). Charles was not that good, but I think it was not completely useless. But Harkness and Thomas were really really bad.
Citação de: Cloughie em 27 de Junho de 2022, 16:31
Citação de: Celticfan em 27 de Junho de 2022, 15:12
Citação de: SousaLB em 27 de Junho de 2022, 11:54
Also, Benfica is the club of the people, Sporting is mainly linked to that very "chic" part of the society, to some elitism, those persons with a lot of names, descending from the kings and so on ;D
Historically, Benfica is linked to more humble people, is passion at its most natural. Sporting is more elitist. We use to make fun of their names, just like "he really has a Sporting fan's name".
Without being too political. How were Portuguese clubs treated under Salazar? Was it like in Spain under Franco where there was a favourite/disliked club? Or the equivalent of the monarchy/elites club?
I honestly don't know too much about Salazar, it doesn't get talked as much internationally compared to other European authoritarian figures. Is he viewed as widely despised now like Franco or do some people still admire him?
Benfica got the fame, the others got the rewards.
Porto and Sporting were the protected ones, even got public benefits (the Statue of Public Utility was given to them way before Benfica), they had people from the government leading the club and even Sporting was in the old version of Champions League because of the government, even though the champion was Benfica.
Salazar won the Greatest Portuguese contest, so... there's your answer. ;D
When the stadiums got rebuilt as part of the Euros, do the clubs still own the stadiums or is it like in America where the city owns the stadium and major upkeep/maintenance?
Does the Estadio da Luz have a standing section? Are their ultra sections? Are they political and do they like each other?
I remember watching a Benfica Celtic game where the Eagle flew around the stadium. Do they do this every game or just big ones? They do similar for the Seattle Seahawks and it's really cool.
So Salazar is still well regarded in Portugal?
Citação de: Celticfan em 27 de Junho de 2022, 18:48
Citação de: Cloughie em 27 de Junho de 2022, 16:31
Citação de: Celticfan em 27 de Junho de 2022, 15:12
Citação de: SousaLB em 27 de Junho de 2022, 11:54
Also, Benfica is the club of the people, Sporting is mainly linked to that very "chic" part of the society, to some elitism, those persons with a lot of names, descending from the kings and so on ;D
Historically, Benfica is linked to more humble people, is passion at its most natural. Sporting is more elitist. We use to make fun of their names, just like "he really has a Sporting fan's name".
Without being too political. How were Portuguese clubs treated under Salazar? Was it like in Spain under Franco where there was a favourite/disliked club? Or the equivalent of the monarchy/elites club?
I honestly don't know too much about Salazar, it doesn't get talked as much internationally compared to other European authoritarian figures. Is he viewed as widely despised now like Franco or do some people still admire him?
Benfica got the fame, the others got the rewards.
Porto and Sporting were the protected ones, even got public benefits (the Statue of Public Utility was given to them way before Benfica), they had people from the government leading the club and even Sporting was in the old version of Champions League because of the government, even though the champion was Benfica.
Salazar won the Greatest Portuguese contest, so... there's your answer. ;D
When the stadiums got rebuilt as part of the Euros, do the clubs still own the stadiums or is it like in America where the city owns the stadium and major upkeep/maintenance?
Does the Estadio da Luz have a standing section? Are their ultra sections? Are they political and do they like each other?
I remember watching a Benfica Celtic game where the Eagle flew around the stadium. Do they do this every game or just big ones? They do similar for the Seattle Seahawks and it's really cool.
So Salazar is still well regarded in Portugal?
Benfica: Owned
Porto: Owned
Sporting: Owned
Vitória Guimarães: Owned
Braga: Town
Boavista: Owned
Aveiro: Town
Coimbra: Town
Leiria: Town
Algarve: Town
No safe standing yet. We have two "ultra" groups. No political stuff but they're not than fond of each other. The biggest one currently are "in the pocket" of the board.
Every game the eagle flies around.
For a small section of the country, yes.
Citação de: Cloughie em 27 de Junho de 2022, 19:13
Citação de: Celticfan em 27 de Junho de 2022, 18:48
Citação de: Cloughie em 27 de Junho de 2022, 16:31
Citação de: Celticfan em 27 de Junho de 2022, 15:12
Citação de: SousaLB em 27 de Junho de 2022, 11:54
Also, Benfica is the club of the people, Sporting is mainly linked to that very "chic" part of the society, to some elitism, those persons with a lot of names, descending from the kings and so on ;D
Historically, Benfica is linked to more humble people, is passion at its most natural. Sporting is more elitist. We use to make fun of their names, just like "he really has a Sporting fan's name".
Without being too political. How were Portuguese clubs treated under Salazar? Was it like in Spain under Franco where there was a favourite/disliked club? Or the equivalent of the monarchy/elites club?
I honestly don't know too much about Salazar, it doesn't get talked as much internationally compared to other European authoritarian figures. Is he viewed as widely despised now like Franco or do some people still admire him?
Benfica got the fame, the others got the rewards.
Porto and Sporting were the protected ones, even got public benefits (the Statue of Public Utility was given to them way before Benfica), they had people from the government leading the club and even Sporting was in the old version of Champions League because of the government, even though the champion was Benfica.
Salazar won the Greatest Portuguese contest, so... there's your answer. ;D
When the stadiums got rebuilt as part of the Euros, do the clubs still own the stadiums or is it like in America where the city owns the stadium and major upkeep/maintenance?
Does the Estadio da Luz have a standing section? Are their ultra sections? Are they political and do they like each other?
I remember watching a Benfica Celtic game where the Eagle flew around the stadium. Do they do this every game or just big ones? They do similar for the Seattle Seahawks and it's really cool.
So Salazar is still well regarded in Portugal?
Benfica: Owned
Porto: Owned
Sporting: Owned
Vitória Guimarães: Owned
Braga: Town
Boavista: Owned
Aveiro: Town
Coimbra: Town
Leiria: Town
Algarve: Town
No safe standing yet. We have two "ultra" groups. No political stuff but they're not than fond of each other. The biggest one currently are "in the pocket" of the board.
Every game the eagle flies around.
For a small section of the country, yes.
Couple more questions-
Other than Eusebio, who is Benficas biggest legends?
Do Benfica have any famous fans (that would be known internationally)?
Is there any foreign clubs Benfica do not like? For example Celtic fans dislike Hamburg, Athletico Madrid and Rapid Vienna. The latter two due to incidents in European games.
How are Jorge Cadete and Pierre Van Hoojdonk viewed by Benfica fans?
They were some of my first heroes as a 7/8 year old and both were the beginning of Celtics rebirth after financial issues in the early 90s. I wouldn't say either are legends but definitely 'what could have been if they had stayed longer'. I think Cadete could have been a legend if he had stayed but he got greedy. He admits he regrets it. We may not have ended up with Larsson though who is a legend. I didn't really follow Cadete's career post Celtic but he was good at Celtic and Sporting. i heard he had a lot of problems post career though.
Citação de: Celticfan em 27 de Junho de 2022, 19:36
Citação de: Cloughie em 27 de Junho de 2022, 19:13
Citação de: Celticfan em 27 de Junho de 2022, 18:48
Citação de: Cloughie em 27 de Junho de 2022, 16:31
Citação de: Celticfan em 27 de Junho de 2022, 15:12
Citação de: SousaLB em 27 de Junho de 2022, 11:54
Also, Benfica is the club of the people, Sporting is mainly linked to that very "chic" part of the society, to some elitism, those persons with a lot of names, descending from the kings and so on ;D
Historically, Benfica is linked to more humble people, is passion at its most natural. Sporting is more elitist. We use to make fun of their names, just like "he really has a Sporting fan's name".
Without being too political. How were Portuguese clubs treated under Salazar? Was it like in Spain under Franco where there was a favourite/disliked club? Or the equivalent of the monarchy/elites club?
I honestly don't know too much about Salazar, it doesn't get talked as much internationally compared to other European authoritarian figures. Is he viewed as widely despised now like Franco or do some people still admire him?
Benfica got the fame, the others got the rewards.
Porto and Sporting were the protected ones, even got public benefits (the Statue of Public Utility was given to them way before Benfica), they had people from the government leading the club and even Sporting was in the old version of Champions League because of the government, even though the champion was Benfica.
Salazar won the Greatest Portuguese contest, so... there's your answer. ;D
When the stadiums got rebuilt as part of the Euros, do the clubs still own the stadiums or is it like in America where the city owns the stadium and major upkeep/maintenance?
Does the Estadio da Luz have a standing section? Are their ultra sections? Are they political and do they like each other?
I remember watching a Benfica Celtic game where the Eagle flew around the stadium. Do they do this every game or just big ones? They do similar for the Seattle Seahawks and it's really cool.
So Salazar is still well regarded in Portugal?
Benfica: Owned
Porto: Owned
Sporting: Owned
Vitória Guimarães: Owned
Braga: Town
Boavista: Owned
Aveiro: Town
Coimbra: Town
Leiria: Town
Algarve: Town
No safe standing yet. We have two "ultra" groups. No political stuff but they're not than fond of each other. The biggest one currently are "in the pocket" of the board.
Every game the eagle flies around.
For a small section of the country, yes.
Couple more questions-
Other than Eusebio, who is Benficas biggest legends?
Do Benfica have any famous fans (that would be known internationally)?
Is there any foreign clubs Benfica do not like? For example Celtic fans dislike Hamburg, Athletico Madrid and Rapid Vienna. The latter two due to incidents in European games.
How are Jorge Cadete and Pierre Van Hoojdonk viewed by Benfica fans?
They were some of my first heroes as a 7/8 year old and both were the beginning of Celtics rebirth after financial issues in the early 90s. I wouldn't say either are legends but definitely 'what could have been if they had stayed longer'. I think Cadete could have been a legend if he had stayed but he got greedy. He admits he regrets it. We may not have ended up with Larsson though who is a legend. I didn't really follow Cadete's career post Celtic but he was good at Celtic and Sporting. i heard he had a lot of problems post career though.
Sorry to jump in like this.
But I'll try to answer.
1) After Eusébio, I think it would be Coluna, "o Monstro Sagrado" - "The Sacred Monster" and Toni, aka, Mr. Benfica and Cosme Damião, the most known of the club founders. Coluna is probably the most complete portuguese player of all time, if I may say so.
Benfica don't really have big legends, we have 3/4 people from all time that are really well regarded and put above anyone else, then you just have lots of iconic figures.
Chalana, Nené, Mozer, Simões, Torres, José Águas (perhaps his son aswell), João Alves, Francisco Ferreira, Ângelo, Bento, Preud'homme, Costa Pereira (yes, went on a goalkeeper spree), António Veloso (Miguel's father), João Vieira Pinto, and more recently I only consider Jonas and Simão Sabrosa on that tier.
Edit: I would also say people like Diamantino, forgot previously Humberto Coelho, Rogério Pipi, Shéu and many others for sure. It would be easier to go on by decade starting on the 40's.
On the other sports, I think it would be safe to say that Carlos Lisboa is probably the biggest Benfica legend.
2) Don't think so. I would say Novak Djokovic.
3) I don't think we really have an international rival. At least in the sense of hating them. But we respect, and feel respected, by Man. United, Barcelona, Real Madrid. I would say these 3 are the teams every Benfica fan wants to face in the Champions and win.
Funnily enough there is a friendship with Torino and Hajduk Split, unfortunately due to tragedy.
4) Pierre was an absolute star in Benfica and is very well regarded. Cadete I don't really have an opinion and can have a mixed bag of opinions, but my father really liked him and still speaks very well of him.
Citação de: Celticfan em 27 de Junho de 2022, 19:36
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Citação de: Celticfan em 27 de Junho de 2022, 18:48
Citação de: Cloughie em 27 de Junho de 2022, 16:31
Citação de: Celticfan em 27 de Junho de 2022, 15:12
Citação de: SousaLB em 27 de Junho de 2022, 11:54
Also, Benfica is the club of the people, Sporting is mainly linked to that very "chic" part of the society, to some elitism, those persons with a lot of names, descending from the kings and so on ;D
Historically, Benfica is linked to more humble people, is passion at its most natural. Sporting is more elitist. We use to make fun of their names, just like "he really has a Sporting fan's name".
Without being too political. How were Portuguese clubs treated under Salazar? Was it like in Spain under Franco where there was a favourite/disliked club? Or the equivalent of the monarchy/elites club?
I honestly don't know too much about Salazar, it doesn't get talked as much internationally compared to other European authoritarian figures. Is he viewed as widely despised now like Franco or do some people still admire him?
Benfica got the fame, the others got the rewards.
Porto and Sporting were the protected ones, even got public benefits (the Statue of Public Utility was given to them way before Benfica), they had people from the government leading the club and even Sporting was in the old version of Champions League because of the government, even though the champion was Benfica.
Salazar won the Greatest Portuguese contest, so... there's your answer. ;D
When the stadiums got rebuilt as part of the Euros, do the clubs still own the stadiums or is it like in America where the city owns the stadium and major upkeep/maintenance?
Does the Estadio da Luz have a standing section? Are their ultra sections? Are they political and do they like each other?
I remember watching a Benfica Celtic game where the Eagle flew around the stadium. Do they do this every game or just big ones? They do similar for the Seattle Seahawks and it's really cool.
So Salazar is still well regarded in Portugal?
Benfica: Owned
Porto: Owned
Sporting: Owned
Vitória Guimarães: Owned
Braga: Town
Boavista: Owned
Aveiro: Town
Coimbra: Town
Leiria: Town
Algarve: Town
No safe standing yet. We have two "ultra" groups. No political stuff but they're not than fond of each other. The biggest one currently are "in the pocket" of the board.
Every game the eagle flies around.
For a small section of the country, yes.
Couple more questions-
Other than Eusebio, who is Benficas biggest legends?
Do Benfica have any famous fans (that would be known internationally)?
Is there any foreign clubs Benfica do not like? For example Celtic fans dislike Hamburg, Athletico Madrid and Rapid Vienna. The latter two due to incidents in European games.
How are Jorge Cadete and Pierre Van Hoojdonk viewed by Benfica fans?
They were some of my first heroes as a 7/8 year old and both were the beginning of Celtics rebirth after financial issues in the early 90s. I wouldn't say either are legends but definitely 'what could have been if they had stayed longer'. I think Cadete could have been a legend if he had stayed but he got greedy. He admits he regrets it. We may not have ended up with Larsson though who is a legend. I didn't really follow Cadete's career post Celtic but he was good at Celtic and Sporting. i heard he had a lot of problems post career though.
I will forget people, I'm sure:
Rogério Pipi from 1940/50's (best player from the 1st team who got european gold in Latin Cup)
José Águas from 1950/60's
Mário Coluna from 1950/60's (biggest captain in club history)
José Augusto from 1960/70's
António Simões from 1960/70's (youngest european champion in history)
Toni from 1960/70/80's (8 league titles as a player, 4 as an assistant coach, 2 as a manager)
Nené from 1960/70/80's (most matches as a Benfica player)
Humberto Coelho from 1960/70/80's
Sheu from 1970/80's (the person with more titles in the history of the club, I believe. 10 as a player and several more as a staff member)
Manuel Bento from 1970/80/90's (biggest GK in club history)
Fernando Chalana from 1970/80's
Carlos Mozer from 1980/90's (top brazilian center-back)
João Pinto from 1990/00's (the ray of light in the dark years)
Michel Preud'Homme from 1990's (if he had arrived a couple of years earlier...)
Simão Sabrosa from 2000's (our leader in the broken streak of 11 years without a title)
Luisão from 2000/10's (club captain and the foreigner with more matches in the history of the club)
Óscar Cardozo from 2000/10's (foreigner with most goals in Benfica's history)
Jonas from 2010's (the hero from the first string of 4 titles in a row in our history)
Famous international Benfica fans? Mike Tyson, Novak Djokovic, Jordy Smith... I think Tom Hanks has spoken about it too.
I don't think we have any international rivals. Maybe now Sevilla because of the way we're robbed in the Europa League final in 2014.
Cadete is not well liked here.
Pierre was an amazing player. Unfortunately the follow up board after Vale e Azevedo sold him for peanuts because we didn't have money... after spending it on a brazilian flop named Roger.
We don't care about them but Marseille fans don't like Benfica at all.
Citação de: Covenant em 28 de Junho de 2022, 14:11
We don't care about them but Marseille fans don't like Benfica at all.
How come?
With Rapid Vienna and Athletico Madrid for us it was due to on field incidents when we played them. Hamburg is because they have a close relationship with Rangers and our fans have a good relationship with St Pauli.
Citação de: Celticfan em 29 de Junho de 2022, 17:23
Citação de: Covenant em 28 de Junho de 2022, 14:11
We don't care about them but Marseille fans don't like Benfica at all.
How come?
With Rapid Vienna and Athletico Madrid for us it was due to on field incidents when we played them. Hamburg is because they have a close relationship with Rangers and our fans have a good relationship with St Pauli.
We defeated them in 1989/1990 in the Champions League semi final with the (in)famous hand of Vata.
https://youtu.be/c4kDWyvO2jA
Citação de: Covenant em 29 de Junho de 2022, 17:34
Citação de: Celticfan em 29 de Junho de 2022, 17:23
Citação de: Covenant em 28 de Junho de 2022, 14:11
We don't care about them but Marseille fans don't like Benfica at all.
How come?
With Rapid Vienna and Athletico Madrid for us it was due to on field incidents when we played them. Hamburg is because they have a close relationship with Rangers and our fans have a good relationship with St Pauli.
We defeated them in 1989/1990 in the Champions League semi final with the (in)famous hand of Vata.
https://youtu.be/c4kDWyvO2jA
They can't really complain though, they cheated in the next season to win it.
Citação de: Celticfan em 29 de Junho de 2022, 17:56
Citação de: Covenant em 29 de Junho de 2022, 17:34
Citação de: Celticfan em 29 de Junho de 2022, 17:23
Citação de: Covenant em 28 de Junho de 2022, 14:11
We don't care about them but Marseille fans don't like Benfica at all.
How come?
With Rapid Vienna and Athletico Madrid for us it was due to on field incidents when we played them. Hamburg is because they have a close relationship with Rangers and our fans have a good relationship with St Pauli.
We defeated them in 1989/1990 in the Champions League semi final with the (in)famous hand of Vata.
https://youtu.be/c4kDWyvO2jA
They can't really complain though, they cheated in the next season to win it.
They tried to get their revenge but...
https://youtu.be/3MHesx656ck
Obviously we got a steal with Jota but is there any other young or B team Benfica or Portuguese players that would fit Celtics model? (without saying fuck off ;D ) e.g. under 25, great potential with the chance of becoming a top player? Especially as a central defender, DM or forward?
My work colleague thought possibly Florentino if we don't sign Souza? Said he is a late bloomer but talented. Would he be a good fit?
Citação de: Celticfan em 27 de Junho de 2022, 19:36
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Citação de: SousaLB em 27 de Junho de 2022, 11:54
Also, Benfica is the club of the people, Sporting is mainly linked to that very "chic" part of the society, to some elitism, those persons with a lot of names, descending from the kings and so on ;D
Historically, Benfica is linked to more humble people, is passion at its most natural. Sporting is more elitist. We use to make fun of their names, just like "he really has a Sporting fan's name".
Without being too political. How were Portuguese clubs treated under Salazar? Was it like in Spain under Franco where there was a favourite/disliked club? Or the equivalent of the monarchy/elites club?
I honestly don't know too much about Salazar, it doesn't get talked as much internationally compared to other European authoritarian figures. Is he viewed as widely despised now like Franco or do some people still admire him?
Benfica got the fame, the others got the rewards.
Porto and Sporting were the protected ones, even got public benefits (the Statue of Public Utility was given to them way before Benfica), they had people from the government leading the club and even Sporting was in the old version of Champions League because of the government, even though the champion was Benfica.
Salazar won the Greatest Portuguese contest, so... there's your answer. ;D
When the stadiums got rebuilt as part of the Euros, do the clubs still own the stadiums or is it like in America where the city owns the stadium and major upkeep/maintenance?
Does the Estadio da Luz have a standing section? Are their ultra sections? Are they political and do they like each other?
I remember watching a Benfica Celtic game where the Eagle flew around the stadium. Do they do this every game or just big ones? They do similar for the Seattle Seahawks and it's really cool.
So Salazar is still well regarded in Portugal?
Benfica: Owned
Porto: Owned
Sporting: Owned
Vitória Guimarães: Owned
Braga: Town
Boavista: Owned
Aveiro: Town
Coimbra: Town
Leiria: Town
Algarve: Town
No safe standing yet. We have two "ultra" groups. No political stuff but they're not than fond of each other. The biggest one currently are "in the pocket" of the board.
Every game the eagle flies around.
For a small section of the country, yes.
Couple more questions-
Other than Eusebio, who is Benficas biggest legends?
Do Benfica have any famous fans (that would be known internationally)?
Is there any foreign clubs Benfica do not like? For example Celtic fans dislike Hamburg, Athletico Madrid and Rapid Vienna. The latter two due to incidents in European games.
How are Jorge Cadete and Pierre Van Hoojdonk viewed by Benfica fans?
They were some of my first heroes as a 7/8 year old and both were the beginning of Celtics rebirth after financial issues in the early 90s. I wouldn't say either are legends but definitely 'what could have been if they had stayed longer'. I think Cadete could have been a legend if he had stayed but he got greedy. He admits he regrets it. We may not have ended up with Larsson though who is a legend. I didn't really follow Cadete's career post Celtic but he was good at Celtic and Sporting. i heard he had a lot of problems post career though.
Apparently Mike Tyson is a Benfica fan. There's a few photos of him online wearing our shirt. But who knows how genuine his support is. He said he felt emotiened the fact our stsidun has the statue of a black player(Eusébio) outside it or something like that. Seems odd since I'd expect such thing to be common in USA considering all the black NBA and NFL players they have there.
Benfica does not have any rivalries with foreign clubs. Closest thing must have been the friendly rivalry with Real Madrid way back in the day. How many clubs have beaten Real Madrid in a European Cup final after all? Plus Di Stefano was Eusébios hero. And Santiago Bernabeu had good relations with us.
The Marseille thing dates back to a game in 1990. I doubt most people under 35 are even aware of that nowadays.
Friendship? I guess there's empathy with Torino due to the Sueperga tragedy. Hajduk Split is simply a friendship between ultras. Both clubs don't have any sort of relationship as far as I know. Most fans aren't ultras and neither care about ultra friendships. Your average Benfica fan doesn't care about Dynamo Zabreg and doesn't hate Juventus.
Football here isn't linked with political ideologies or regional nationalism or anything like that. So there's not much reason to find rivals out there.
If a club acts like assholes to us I might dislike them for a while but that's it. I blame Felix Byrch for screwing us in the 2014 final. Not Sevilla itself.
I've heard Celtic fans don't like Porto. And even a friend of mine who's a Rangers fan says that Porto were favoured in the 2003 final. Thoughts?
Citação de: Festivus em 29 de Junho de 2022, 22:56
Citação de: Celticfan em 27 de Junho de 2022, 19:36
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Citação de: Cloughie em 27 de Junho de 2022, 16:31
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Citação de: SousaLB em 27 de Junho de 2022, 11:54
Also, Benfica is the club of the people, Sporting is mainly linked to that very "chic" part of the society, to some elitism, those persons with a lot of names, descending from the kings and so on ;D
Historically, Benfica is linked to more humble people, is passion at its most natural. Sporting is more elitist. We use to make fun of their names, just like "he really has a Sporting fan's name".
Without being too political. How were Portuguese clubs treated under Salazar? Was it like in Spain under Franco where there was a favourite/disliked club? Or the equivalent of the monarchy/elites club?
I honestly don't know too much about Salazar, it doesn't get talked as much internationally compared to other European authoritarian figures. Is he viewed as widely despised now like Franco or do some people still admire him?
Benfica got the fame, the others got the rewards.
Porto and Sporting were the protected ones, even got public benefits (the Statue of Public Utility was given to them way before Benfica), they had people from the government leading the club and even Sporting was in the old version of Champions League because of the government, even though the champion was Benfica.
Salazar won the Greatest Portuguese contest, so... there's your answer. ;D
When the stadiums got rebuilt as part of the Euros, do the clubs still own the stadiums or is it like in America where the city owns the stadium and major upkeep/maintenance?
Does the Estadio da Luz have a standing section? Are their ultra sections? Are they political and do they like each other?
I remember watching a Benfica Celtic game where the Eagle flew around the stadium. Do they do this every game or just big ones? They do similar for the Seattle Seahawks and it's really cool.
So Salazar is still well regarded in Portugal?
Benfica: Owned
Porto: Owned
Sporting: Owned
Vitória Guimarães: Owned
Braga: Town
Boavista: Owned
Aveiro: Town
Coimbra: Town
Leiria: Town
Algarve: Town
No safe standing yet. We have two "ultra" groups. No political stuff but they're not than fond of each other. The biggest one currently are "in the pocket" of the board.
Every game the eagle flies around.
For a small section of the country, yes.
Couple more questions-
Other than Eusebio, who is Benficas biggest legends?
Do Benfica have any famous fans (that would be known internationally)?
Is there any foreign clubs Benfica do not like? For example Celtic fans dislike Hamburg, Athletico Madrid and Rapid Vienna. The latter two due to incidents in European games.
How are Jorge Cadete and Pierre Van Hoojdonk viewed by Benfica fans?
They were some of my first heroes as a 7/8 year old and both were the beginning of Celtics rebirth after financial issues in the early 90s. I wouldn't say either are legends but definitely 'what could have been if they had stayed longer'. I think Cadete could have been a legend if he had stayed but he got greedy. He admits he regrets it. We may not have ended up with Larsson though who is a legend. I didn't really follow Cadete's career post Celtic but he was good at Celtic and Sporting. i heard he had a lot of problems post career though.
Apparently Mike Tyson is a Benfica fan. There's a few photos of him online wearing our shirt. But who knows how genuine his support is. He said he felt emotiened the fact our stsidun has the statue of a black player(Eusébio) outside it or something like that. Seems odd since I'd expect such thing to be common in USA considering all the black NBA and NFL players they have there.
Benfica does not have any rivalries with foreign clubs. Closest thing must have been the friendly rivalry with Real Madrid way back in the day. How many clubs have beaten Real Madrid in a European Cup final after all? Plus Di Stefano was Eusébios hero. And Santiago Bernabeu had good relations with us.
The Marseille thing dates back to a game in 1990. I doubt most people under 35 are even aware of that nowadays.
Friendship? I guess there's empathy with Torino due to the Sueperga tragedy. Hajduk Split is simply a friendship between ultras. Both clubs don't have any sort of relationship as far as I know. Most fans aren't ultras and neither care about ultra friendships. Your average Benfica fan doesn't care about Dynamo Zabreg and doesn't hate Juventus.
Football here isn't linked with political ideologies or regional nationalism or anything like that. So there's not much reason to find rivals out there.
If a club acts like assholes to us I might dislike them for a while but that's it. I blame Felix Byrch for screwing us in the 2014 final. Not Sevilla itself.
I've heard Celtic fans don't like Porto. And even a friend of mine who's a Rangers fan says that Porto were favoured in the 2003 final. Thoughts?
There was a similar situation with Real Madrid in 1967. When we won the European Cup, Real Madrid wanted to prove we had won 'their trophy' and so we played them for DiStefano's testimonial. So even though it was a friendly it wasn't treated like one. Celtic won 1-0 and our winger Jimmy Johnson was applauded by the Real Madrid fans for his performance.
Our players from that era had a ton of respect for Eusebio. He was good friends with Johnston "I was privileged to call Jimmy Johnstone my friend," said the Portuguese legend. "He always played football with a smile on his face. When Celtic reached the European Cup Final in my country in 1967 I supported them against Inter Milan. They were a great, attacking force and, of course, they had that special little genius on the right wing. But Jimmy Johnstone was not just a great player in Scotland. He was known throughout the world."
We don't like Athletico Madrid due to a game in 1974 were they basically kicked us off the park. https://worldfootballindex.com/2017/03/atletico-madrid-v-celtic-1974-shame-game/ They also had a banner in 2011 when we played them against Billy McNeil who is our greatest ever captain as he said he was still bitter about the game in 74.
Rapid Vienna is due to an incident in a cup winners cup game in 1984. Celtic lost the first game 3-1 but won the home game 3-0. It was a dirty game where some Rapid players got away with punches. However, a fan through a bottle on the field and a Rapid player claimed it hit him. It was nowhere remotely near him but he rolled around as if shot. There was no tv cameras to prove he lied. UEFA forced the game to be replayed at Old Trafford and we lost the replay.
I don't know how I feel about Porto. At the time I was absolutely pissed off. Deco, Derlei and Victor Baia just rolling around every 2 seconds wasting time was pretty infuriating. The referee was really weak and let the Porto players get away with it. To be honest, they didn't need to do it. With hindsight Porto were the better team despite us taking it to extra time, our goal keeper had an absolute shocker but Larsson had a great game for us. On another day or a stronger ref who knows, we may have won? Porto went on to win the Champions League the next season so they were clearly a great team. I've also came round to Mourinho. Still a little bitter about it.
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/dived-beat-celtic-final-1624741
Ultra's are a relatively recent thing for us- mid 2000's.
Citação de: Cloughie em 27 de Junho de 2022, 20:33
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Citação de: SousaLB em 27 de Junho de 2022, 11:54
Also, Benfica is the club of the people, Sporting is mainly linked to that very "chic" part of the society, to some elitism, those persons with a lot of names, descending from the kings and so on ;D
Historically, Benfica is linked to more humble people, is passion at its most natural. Sporting is more elitist. We use to make fun of their names, just like "he really has a Sporting fan's name".
Without being too political. How were Portuguese clubs treated under Salazar? Was it like in Spain under Franco where there was a favourite/disliked club? Or the equivalent of the monarchy/elites club?
I honestly don't know too much about Salazar, it doesn't get talked as much internationally compared to other European authoritarian figures. Is he viewed as widely despised now like Franco or do some people still admire him?
Benfica got the fame, the others got the rewards.
Porto and Sporting were the protected ones, even got public benefits (the Statue of Public Utility was given to them way before Benfica), they had people from the government leading the club and even Sporting was in the old version of Champions League because of the government, even though the champion was Benfica.
Salazar won the Greatest Portuguese contest, so... there's your answer. ;D
When the stadiums got rebuilt as part of the Euros, do the clubs still own the stadiums or is it like in America where the city owns the stadium and major upkeep/maintenance?
Does the Estadio da Luz have a standing section? Are their ultra sections? Are they political and do they like each other?
I remember watching a Benfica Celtic game where the Eagle flew around the stadium. Do they do this every game or just big ones? They do similar for the Seattle Seahawks and it's really cool.
So Salazar is still well regarded in Portugal?
Benfica: Owned
Porto: Owned
Sporting: Owned
Vitória Guimarães: Owned
Braga: Town
Boavista: Owned
Aveiro: Town
Coimbra: Town
Leiria: Town
Algarve: Town
No safe standing yet. We have two "ultra" groups. No political stuff but they're not than fond of each other. The biggest one currently are "in the pocket" of the board.
Every game the eagle flies around.
For a small section of the country, yes.
Couple more questions-
Other than Eusebio, who is Benficas biggest legends?
Do Benfica have any famous fans (that would be known internationally)?
Is there any foreign clubs Benfica do not like? For example Celtic fans dislike Hamburg, Athletico Madrid and Rapid Vienna. The latter two due to incidents in European games.
How are Jorge Cadete and Pierre Van Hoojdonk viewed by Benfica fans?
They were some of my first heroes as a 7/8 year old and both were the beginning of Celtics rebirth after financial issues in the early 90s. I wouldn't say either are legends but definitely 'what could have been if they had stayed longer'. I think Cadete could have been a legend if he had stayed but he got greedy. He admits he regrets it. We may not have ended up with Larsson though who is a legend. I didn't really follow Cadete's career post Celtic but he was good at Celtic and Sporting. i heard he had a lot of problems post career though.
I will forget people, I'm sure:
Rogério Pipi from 1940/50's (best player from the 1st team who got european gold in Latin Cup)
José Águas from 1950/60's
Mário Coluna from 1950/60's (biggest captain in club history)
José Augusto from 1960/70's
António Simões from 1960/70's (youngest european champion in history)
Toni from 1960/70/80's (8 league titles as a player, 4 as an assistant coach, 2 as a manager)
Nené from 1960/70/80's (most matches as a Benfica player)
Humberto Coelho from 1960/70/80's
Sheu from 1970/80's (the person with more titles in the history of the club, I believe. 10 as a player and several more as a staff member)
Manuel Bento from 1970/80/90's (biggest GK in club history)
Fernando Chalana from 1970/80's
Carlos Mozer from 1980/90's (top brazilian center-back)
João Pinto from 1990/00's (the ray of light in the dark years)
Michel Preud'Homme from 1990's (if he had arrived a couple of years earlier...)
Simão Sabrosa from 2000's (our leader in the broken streak of 11 years without a title)
Luisão from 2000/10's (club captain and the foreigner with more matches in the history of the club)
Óscar Cardozo from 2000/10's (foreigner with most goals in Benfica's history)
Jonas from 2010's (the hero from the first string of 4 titles in a row in our history)
Famous international Benfica fans? Mike Tyson, Novak Djokovic, Jordy Smith... I think Tom Hanks has spoken about it too.
I don't think we have any international rivals. Maybe now Sevilla because of the way we're robbed in the Europa League final in 2014.
Cadete is not well liked here.
Pierre was an amazing player. Unfortunately the follow up board after Vale e Azevedo sold him for peanuts because we didn't have money... after spending it on a brazilian flop named Roger.
Another Benfica legend: Rui Costa
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Also, Benfica is the club of the people, Sporting is mainly linked to that very "chic" part of the society, to some elitism, those persons with a lot of names, descending from the kings and so on ;D
Historically, Benfica is linked to more humble people, is passion at its most natural. Sporting is more elitist. We use to make fun of their names, just like "he really has a Sporting fan's name".
Without being too political. How were Portuguese clubs treated under Salazar? Was it like in Spain under Franco where there was a favourite/disliked club? Or the equivalent of the monarchy/elites club?
I honestly don't know too much about Salazar, it doesn't get talked as much internationally compared to other European authoritarian figures. Is he viewed as widely despised now like Franco or do some people still admire him?
Benfica got the fame, the others got the rewards.
Porto and Sporting were the protected ones, even got public benefits (the Statue of Public Utility was given to them way before Benfica), they had people from the government leading the club and even Sporting was in the old version of Champions League because of the government, even though the champion was Benfica.
Salazar won the Greatest Portuguese contest, so... there's your answer. ;D
When the stadiums got rebuilt as part of the Euros, do the clubs still own the stadiums or is it like in America where the city owns the stadium and major upkeep/maintenance?
Does the Estadio da Luz have a standing section? Are their ultra sections? Are they political and do they like each other?
I remember watching a Benfica Celtic game where the Eagle flew around the stadium. Do they do this every game or just big ones? They do similar for the Seattle Seahawks and it's really cool.
So Salazar is still well regarded in Portugal?
Benfica: Owned
Porto: Owned
Sporting: Owned
Vitória Guimarães: Owned
Braga: Town
Boavista: Owned
Aveiro: Town
Coimbra: Town
Leiria: Town
Algarve: Town
No safe standing yet. We have two "ultra" groups. No political stuff but they're not than fond of each other. The biggest one currently are "in the pocket" of the board.
Every game the eagle flies around.
For a small section of the country, yes.
Couple more questions-
Other than Eusebio, who is Benficas biggest legends?
Do Benfica have any famous fans (that would be known internationally)?
Is there any foreign clubs Benfica do not like? For example Celtic fans dislike Hamburg, Athletico Madrid and Rapid Vienna. The latter two due to incidents in European games.
How are Jorge Cadete and Pierre Van Hoojdonk viewed by Benfica fans?
They were some of my first heroes as a 7/8 year old and both were the beginning of Celtics rebirth after financial issues in the early 90s. I wouldn't say either are legends but definitely 'what could have been if they had stayed longer'. I think Cadete could have been a legend if he had stayed but he got greedy. He admits he regrets it. We may not have ended up with Larsson though who is a legend. I didn't really follow Cadete's career post Celtic but he was good at Celtic and Sporting. i heard he had a lot of problems post career though.
I will forget people, I'm sure:
Rogério Pipi from 1940/50's (best player from the 1st team who got european gold in Latin Cup)
José Águas from 1950/60's
Mário Coluna from 1950/60's (biggest captain in club history)
José Augusto from 1960/70's
António Simões from 1960/70's (youngest european champion in history)
Toni from 1960/70/80's (8 league titles as a player, 4 as an assistant coach, 2 as a manager)
Nené from 1960/70/80's (most matches as a Benfica player)
Humberto Coelho from 1960/70/80's
Sheu from 1970/80's (the person with more titles in the history of the club, I believe. 10 as a player and several more as a staff member)
Manuel Bento from 1970/80/90's (biggest GK in club history)
Fernando Chalana from 1970/80's
Carlos Mozer from 1980/90's (top brazilian center-back)
João Pinto from 1990/00's (the ray of light in the dark years)
Michel Preud'Homme from 1990's (if he had arrived a couple of years earlier...)
Simão Sabrosa from 2000's (our leader in the broken streak of 11 years without a title)
Luisão from 2000/10's (club captain and the foreigner with more matches in the history of the club)
Óscar Cardozo from 2000/10's (foreigner with most goals in Benfica's history)
Jonas from 2010's (the hero from the first string of 4 titles in a row in our history)
Famous international Benfica fans? Mike Tyson, Novak Djokovic, Jordy Smith... I think Tom Hanks has spoken about it too.
I don't think we have any international rivals. Maybe now Sevilla because of the way we're robbed in the Europa League final in 2014.
Cadete is not well liked here.
Pierre was an amazing player. Unfortunately the follow up board after Vale e Azevedo sold him for peanuts because we didn't have money... after spending it on a brazilian flop named Roger.
Another Benfica legend: Rui Costa
I've always thought of him as a Milan player because of the era I grew up. That Milan team was special
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Also, Benfica is the club of the people, Sporting is mainly linked to that very "chic" part of the society, to some elitism, those persons with a lot of names, descending from the kings and so on ;D
Historically, Benfica is linked to more humble people, is passion at its most natural. Sporting is more elitist. We use to make fun of their names, just like "he really has a Sporting fan's name".
Without being too political. How were Portuguese clubs treated under Salazar? Was it like in Spain under Franco where there was a favourite/disliked club? Or the equivalent of the monarchy/elites club?
I honestly don't know too much about Salazar, it doesn't get talked as much internationally compared to other European authoritarian figures. Is he viewed as widely despised now like Franco or do some people still admire him?
Benfica got the fame, the others got the rewards.
Porto and Sporting were the protected ones, even got public benefits (the Statue of Public Utility was given to them way before Benfica), they had people from the government leading the club and even Sporting was in the old version of Champions League because of the government, even though the champion was Benfica.
Salazar won the Greatest Portuguese contest, so... there's your answer. ;D
When the stadiums got rebuilt as part of the Euros, do the clubs still own the stadiums or is it like in America where the city owns the stadium and major upkeep/maintenance?
Does the Estadio da Luz have a standing section? Are their ultra sections? Are they political and do they like each other?
I remember watching a Benfica Celtic game where the Eagle flew around the stadium. Do they do this every game or just big ones? They do similar for the Seattle Seahawks and it's really cool.
So Salazar is still well regarded in Portugal?
Benfica: Owned
Porto: Owned
Sporting: Owned
Vitória Guimarães: Owned
Braga: Town
Boavista: Owned
Aveiro: Town
Coimbra: Town
Leiria: Town
Algarve: Town
No safe standing yet. We have two "ultra" groups. No political stuff but they're not than fond of each other. The biggest one currently are "in the pocket" of the board.
Every game the eagle flies around.
For a small section of the country, yes.
Couple more questions-
Other than Eusebio, who is Benficas biggest legends?
Do Benfica have any famous fans (that would be known internationally)?
Is there any foreign clubs Benfica do not like? For example Celtic fans dislike Hamburg, Athletico Madrid and Rapid Vienna. The latter two due to incidents in European games.
How are Jorge Cadete and Pierre Van Hoojdonk viewed by Benfica fans?
They were some of my first heroes as a 7/8 year old and both were the beginning of Celtics rebirth after financial issues in the early 90s. I wouldn't say either are legends but definitely 'what could have been if they had stayed longer'. I think Cadete could have been a legend if he had stayed but he got greedy. He admits he regrets it. We may not have ended up with Larsson though who is a legend. I didn't really follow Cadete's career post Celtic but he was good at Celtic and Sporting. i heard he had a lot of problems post career though.
I will forget people, I'm sure:
Rogério Pipi from 1940/50's (best player from the 1st team who got european gold in Latin Cup)
José Águas from 1950/60's
Mário Coluna from 1950/60's (biggest captain in club history)
José Augusto from 1960/70's
António Simões from 1960/70's (youngest european champion in history)
Toni from 1960/70/80's (8 league titles as a player, 4 as an assistant coach, 2 as a manager)
Nené from 1960/70/80's (most matches as a Benfica player)
Humberto Coelho from 1960/70/80's
Sheu from 1970/80's (the person with more titles in the history of the club, I believe. 10 as a player and several more as a staff member)
Manuel Bento from 1970/80/90's (biggest GK in club history)
Fernando Chalana from 1970/80's
Carlos Mozer from 1980/90's (top brazilian center-back)
João Pinto from 1990/00's (the ray of light in the dark years)
Michel Preud'Homme from 1990's (if he had arrived a couple of years earlier...)
Simão Sabrosa from 2000's (our leader in the broken streak of 11 years without a title)
Luisão from 2000/10's (club captain and the foreigner with more matches in the history of the club)
Óscar Cardozo from 2000/10's (foreigner with most goals in Benfica's history)
Jonas from 2010's (the hero from the first string of 4 titles in a row in our history)
Famous international Benfica fans? Mike Tyson, Novak Djokovic, Jordy Smith... I think Tom Hanks has spoken about it too.
I don't think we have any international rivals. Maybe now Sevilla because of the way we're robbed in the Europa League final in 2014.
Cadete is not well liked here.
Pierre was an amazing player. Unfortunately the follow up board after Vale e Azevedo sold him for peanuts because we didn't have money... after spending it on a brazilian flop named Roger.
Another Benfica legend: Rui Costa
I've always thought of him as a Milan player because of the era I grew up. That Milan team was special
https://youtu.be/mIaY75XFu2E
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8841339/benfica-st-mirren-dylan-reid-six-figure-transfer/
Ramos. :coolsmiley:
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Also, Benfica is the club of the people, Sporting is mainly linked to that very "chic" part of the society, to some elitism, those persons with a lot of names, descending from the kings and so on ;D
Historically, Benfica is linked to more humble people, is passion at its most natural. Sporting is more elitist. We use to make fun of their names, just like "he really has a Sporting fan's name".
Without being too political. How were Portuguese clubs treated under Salazar? Was it like in Spain under Franco where there was a favourite/disliked club? Or the equivalent of the monarchy/elites club?
I honestly don't know too much about Salazar, it doesn't get talked as much internationally compared to other European authoritarian figures. Is he viewed as widely despised now like Franco or do some people still admire him?
Benfica got the fame, the others got the rewards.
Porto and Sporting were the protected ones, even got public benefits (the Statue of Public Utility was given to them way before Benfica), they had people from the government leading the club and even Sporting was in the old version of Champions League because of the government, even though the champion was Benfica.
Salazar won the Greatest Portuguese contest, so... there's your answer. ;D
When the stadiums got rebuilt as part of the Euros, do the clubs still own the stadiums or is it like in America where the city owns the stadium and major upkeep/maintenance?
Does the Estadio da Luz have a standing section? Are their ultra sections? Are they political and do they like each other?
I remember watching a Benfica Celtic game where the Eagle flew around the stadium. Do they do this every game or just big ones? They do similar for the Seattle Seahawks and it's really cool.
So Salazar is still well regarded in Portugal?
Benfica: Owned
Porto: Owned
Sporting: Owned
Vitória Guimarães: Owned
Braga: Town
Boavista: Owned
Aveiro: Town
Coimbra: Town
Leiria: Town
Algarve: Town
No safe standing yet. We have two "ultra" groups. No political stuff but they're not than fond of each other. The biggest one currently are "in the pocket" of the board.
Every game the eagle flies around.
For a small section of the country, yes.
Couple more questions-
Other than Eusebio, who is Benficas biggest legends?
Do Benfica have any famous fans (that would be known internationally)?
Is there any foreign clubs Benfica do not like? For example Celtic fans dislike Hamburg, Athletico Madrid and Rapid Vienna. The latter two due to incidents in European games.
How are Jorge Cadete and Pierre Van Hoojdonk viewed by Benfica fans?
They were some of my first heroes as a 7/8 year old and both were the beginning of Celtics rebirth after financial issues in the early 90s. I wouldn't say either are legends but definitely 'what could have been if they had stayed longer'. I think Cadete could have been a legend if he had stayed but he got greedy. He admits he regrets it. We may not have ended up with Larsson though who is a legend. I didn't really follow Cadete's career post Celtic but he was good at Celtic and Sporting. i heard he had a lot of problems post career though.
I will forget people, I'm sure:
Rogério Pipi from 1940/50's (best player from the 1st team who got european gold in Latin Cup)
José Águas from 1950/60's
Mário Coluna from 1950/60's (biggest captain in club history)
José Augusto from 1960/70's
António Simões from 1960/70's (youngest european champion in history)
Toni from 1960/70/80's (8 league titles as a player, 4 as an assistant coach, 2 as a manager)
Nené from 1960/70/80's (most matches as a Benfica player)
Humberto Coelho from 1960/70/80's
Sheu from 1970/80's (the person with more titles in the history of the club, I believe. 10 as a player and several more as a staff member)
Manuel Bento from 1970/80/90's (biggest GK in club history)
Fernando Chalana from 1970/80's
Carlos Mozer from 1980/90's (top brazilian center-back)
João Pinto from 1990/00's (the ray of light in the dark years)
Michel Preud'Homme from 1990's (if he had arrived a couple of years earlier...)
Simão Sabrosa from 2000's (our leader in the broken streak of 11 years without a title)
Luisão from 2000/10's (club captain and the foreigner with more matches in the history of the club)
Óscar Cardozo from 2000/10's (foreigner with most goals in Benfica's history)
Jonas from 2010's (the hero from the first string of 4 titles in a row in our history)
Famous international Benfica fans? Mike Tyson, Novak Djokovic, Jordy Smith... I think Tom Hanks has spoken about it too.
I don't think we have any international rivals. Maybe now Sevilla because of the way we're robbed in the Europa League final in 2014.
Cadete is not well liked here.
Pierre was an amazing player. Unfortunately the follow up board after Vale e Azevedo sold him for peanuts because we didn't have money... after spending it on a brazilian flop named Roger.
Another Benfica legend: Rui Costa
I've always thought of him as a Milan player because of the era I grew up. That Milan team was special
Valdo and Ricardo. The first One still appears at the Estádio da Luz, the swedish trio with Magnusson, Thern and Schwarz who sometimes is seen at the Estádio da Luz too.
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Also, Benfica is the club of the people, Sporting is mainly linked to that very "chic" part of the society, to some elitism, those persons with a lot of names, descending from the kings and so on ;D
Historically, Benfica is linked to more humble people, is passion at its most natural. Sporting is more elitist. We use to make fun of their names, just like "he really has a Sporting fan's name".
Without being too political. How were Portuguese clubs treated under Salazar? Was it like in Spain under Franco where there was a favourite/disliked club? Or the equivalent of the monarchy/elites club?
I honestly don't know too much about Salazar, it doesn't get talked as much internationally compared to other European authoritarian figures. Is he viewed as widely despised now like Franco or do some people still admire him?
Benfica got the fame, the others got the rewards.
Porto and Sporting were the protected ones, even got public benefits (the Statue of Public Utility was given to them way before Benfica), they had people from the government leading the club and even Sporting was in the old version of Champions League because of the government, even though the champion was Benfica.
Salazar won the Greatest Portuguese contest, so... there's your answer. ;D
When the stadiums got rebuilt as part of the Euros, do the clubs still own the stadiums or is it like in America where the city owns the stadium and major upkeep/maintenance?
Does the Estadio da Luz have a standing section? Are their ultra sections? Are they political and do they like each other?
I remember watching a Benfica Celtic game where the Eagle flew around the stadium. Do they do this every game or just big ones? They do similar for the Seattle Seahawks and it's really cool.
So Salazar is still well regarded in Portugal?
Benfica: Owned
Porto: Owned
Sporting: Owned
Vitória Guimarães: Owned
Braga: Town
Boavista: Owned
Aveiro: Town
Coimbra: Town
Leiria: Town
Algarve: Town
No safe standing yet. We have two "ultra" groups. No political stuff but they're not than fond of each other. The biggest one currently are "in the pocket" of the board.
Every game the eagle flies around.
For a small section of the country, yes.
Couple more questions-
Other than Eusebio, who is Benficas biggest legends?
Do Benfica have any famous fans (that would be known internationally)?
Is there any foreign clubs Benfica do not like? For example Celtic fans dislike Hamburg, Athletico Madrid and Rapid Vienna. The latter two due to incidents in European games.
How are Jorge Cadete and Pierre Van Hoojdonk viewed by Benfica fans?
They were some of my first heroes as a 7/8 year old and both were the beginning of Celtics rebirth after financial issues in the early 90s. I wouldn't say either are legends but definitely 'what could have been if they had stayed longer'. I think Cadete could have been a legend if he had stayed but he got greedy. He admits he regrets it. We may not have ended up with Larsson though who is a legend. I didn't really follow Cadete's career post Celtic but he was good at Celtic and Sporting. i heard he had a lot of problems post career though.
I will forget people, I'm sure:
Rogério Pipi from 1940/50's (best player from the 1st team who got european gold in Latin Cup)
José Águas from 1950/60's
Mário Coluna from 1950/60's (biggest captain in club history)
José Augusto from 1960/70's
António Simões from 1960/70's (youngest european champion in history)
Toni from 1960/70/80's (8 league titles as a player, 4 as an assistant coach, 2 as a manager)
Nené from 1960/70/80's (most matches as a Benfica player)
Humberto Coelho from 1960/70/80's
Sheu from 1970/80's (the person with more titles in the history of the club, I believe. 10 as a player and several more as a staff member)
Manuel Bento from 1970/80/90's (biggest GK in club history)
Fernando Chalana from 1970/80's
Carlos Mozer from 1980/90's (top brazilian center-back)
João Pinto from 1990/00's (the ray of light in the dark years)
Michel Preud'Homme from 1990's (if he had arrived a couple of years earlier...)
Simão Sabrosa from 2000's (our leader in the broken streak of 11 years without a title)
Luisão from 2000/10's (club captain and the foreigner with more matches in the history of the club)
Óscar Cardozo from 2000/10's (foreigner with most goals in Benfica's history)
Jonas from 2010's (the hero from the first string of 4 titles in a row in our history)
Famous international Benfica fans? Mike Tyson, Novak Djokovic, Jordy Smith... I think Tom Hanks has spoken about it too.
I don't think we have any international rivals. Maybe now Sevilla because of the way we're robbed in the Europa League final in 2014.
Cadete is not well liked here.
Pierre was an amazing player. Unfortunately the follow up board after Vale e Azevedo sold him for peanuts because we didn't have money... after spending it on a brazilian flop named Roger.
Another Benfica legend: Rui Costa
I've always thought of him as a Milan player because of the era I grew up. That Milan team was special
Valdo and Ricardo. The first One still appears at the Estádio da Luz, the swedish trio with Magnusson, Thern and Schwarz who sometimes is seen at the Estádio da Luz too.
I remember Thern at Rangers. He didn't play too much due to injuries though
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Also, Benfica is the club of the people, Sporting is mainly linked to that very "chic" part of the society, to some elitism, those persons with a lot of names, descending from the kings and so on ;D
Historically, Benfica is linked to more humble people, is passion at its most natural. Sporting is more elitist. We use to make fun of their names, just like "he really has a Sporting fan's name".
Without being too political. How were Portuguese clubs treated under Salazar? Was it like in Spain under Franco where there was a favourite/disliked club? Or the equivalent of the monarchy/elites club?
I honestly don't know too much about Salazar, it doesn't get talked as much internationally compared to other European authoritarian figures. Is he viewed as widely despised now like Franco or do some people still admire him?
Benfica got the fame, the others got the rewards.
Porto and Sporting were the protected ones, even got public benefits (the Statue of Public Utility was given to them way before Benfica), they had people from the government leading the club and even Sporting was in the old version of Champions League because of the government, even though the champion was Benfica.
Salazar won the Greatest Portuguese contest, so... there's your answer. ;D
When the stadiums got rebuilt as part of the Euros, do the clubs still own the stadiums or is it like in America where the city owns the stadium and major upkeep/maintenance?
Does the Estadio da Luz have a standing section? Are their ultra sections? Are they political and do they like each other?
I remember watching a Benfica Celtic game where the Eagle flew around the stadium. Do they do this every game or just big ones? They do similar for the Seattle Seahawks and it's really cool.
So Salazar is still well regarded in Portugal?
Benfica: Owned
Porto: Owned
Sporting: Owned
Vitória Guimarães: Owned
Braga: Town
Boavista: Owned
Aveiro: Town
Coimbra: Town
Leiria: Town
Algarve: Town
No safe standing yet. We have two "ultra" groups. No political stuff but they're not than fond of each other. The biggest one currently are "in the pocket" of the board.
Every game the eagle flies around.
For a small section of the country, yes.
Couple more questions-
Other than Eusebio, who is Benficas biggest legends?
Do Benfica have any famous fans (that would be known internationally)?
Is there any foreign clubs Benfica do not like? For example Celtic fans dislike Hamburg, Athletico Madrid and Rapid Vienna. The latter two due to incidents in European games.
How are Jorge Cadete and Pierre Van Hoojdonk viewed by Benfica fans?
They were some of my first heroes as a 7/8 year old and both were the beginning of Celtics rebirth after financial issues in the early 90s. I wouldn't say either are legends but definitely 'what could have been if they had stayed longer'. I think Cadete could have been a legend if he had stayed but he got greedy. He admits he regrets it. We may not have ended up with Larsson though who is a legend. I didn't really follow Cadete's career post Celtic but he was good at Celtic and Sporting. i heard he had a lot of problems post career though.
I will forget people, I'm sure:
Rogério Pipi from 1940/50's (best player from the 1st team who got european gold in Latin Cup)
José Águas from 1950/60's
Mário Coluna from 1950/60's (biggest captain in club history)
José Augusto from 1960/70's
António Simões from 1960/70's (youngest european champion in history)
Toni from 1960/70/80's (8 league titles as a player, 4 as an assistant coach, 2 as a manager)
Nené from 1960/70/80's (most matches as a Benfica player)
Humberto Coelho from 1960/70/80's
Sheu from 1970/80's (the person with more titles in the history of the club, I believe. 10 as a player and several more as a staff member)
Manuel Bento from 1970/80/90's (biggest GK in club history)
Fernando Chalana from 1970/80's
Carlos Mozer from 1980/90's (top brazilian center-back)
João Pinto from 1990/00's (the ray of light in the dark years)
Michel Preud'Homme from 1990's (if he had arrived a couple of years earlier...)
Simão Sabrosa from 2000's (our leader in the broken streak of 11 years without a title)
Luisão from 2000/10's (club captain and the foreigner with more matches in the history of the club)
Óscar Cardozo from 2000/10's (foreigner with most goals in Benfica's history)
Jonas from 2010's (the hero from the first string of 4 titles in a row in our history)
Famous international Benfica fans? Mike Tyson, Novak Djokovic, Jordy Smith... I think Tom Hanks has spoken about it too.
I don't think we have any international rivals. Maybe now Sevilla because of the way we're robbed in the Europa League final in 2014.
Cadete is not well liked here.
Pierre was an amazing player. Unfortunately the follow up board after Vale e Azevedo sold him for peanuts because we didn't have money... after spending it on a brazilian flop named Roger.
Another Benfica legend: Rui Costa
I've always thought of him as a Milan player because of the era I grew up. That Milan team was special
Valdo and Ricardo. The first One still appears at the Estádio da Luz, the swedish trio with Magnusson, Thern and Schwarz who sometimes is seen at the Estádio da Luz too.
I remember Thern at Rangers. He didn't play too much due to injuries though
Here he was very good.
Just heard about the Bela Guttman curse. Do Benfica fans actually believe in it?
Citação de: Celticfan em 17 de Março de 2023, 18:25Just heard about the Bela Guttman curse. Do Benfica fans actually believe in it?
Well, talk about opening the Pandora box.
That depends on the person. Personally, I don't. All he did was vent/blurt out something along the lines off "no portuguese team will win the European Cup twice in a row in 100 years again." when he got sacked. That's where the myth was born.
He sent a telegram before the 1963 final(the first of the several we'd lose in a row) wishing the team luck and said Benfica would win again and wouldn't need him to guide us to the victory.
I don't believe in curses or spiritual things. That's all bullshit. If it was that simple I could easily make up something to curse both Porto and Sporting to never win anything again. As if words had magical powers like that...
In nearly every single European final Benfica lost we were not favourites and the opponent was better. We faced off against the 60s Man Utd team, the 60s Inter and Milan teams that would end up winning 2 European Cups each that decade as well, the 80s PSV team that had 10 national team players or something back when Holland was the Clockwork Orange and the late 80s/AC Milan with Gullit and van Basten.
As for the UEFA Cup, it didn't exist yet when Bella Guttmann left the club in 1962, and its winner is not European champion, so there's no way it could apply to it. Why did we lose 3 finals? No idea about the Anderlecht one. Chelsea was a better team and we had lost the league in a last minute goal just a week before to Porto. Dreadful end to a season. Sevilla? We had like 4 starters injured, 1 unavaible due to getting booked and another one who got I jured early in the match. Plus the referee robbed us out of at least one penalty kick during the match as well. A very unlucky and frustrating final.
Juventus also have lost 7 CL finals and I believe 1 Cup Winners Cup or UEFA Cup final as well, but no one has "cursed" them afaik. So who knows if Benfica would have won any of the finals it lost had Bella Guttmann not said the words that gave birth to a myth.
Citação de: Celticfan em 17 de Março de 2023, 18:25Just heard about the Bela Guttman curse. Do Benfica fans actually believe in it?
No i dont believe it.
There is no curse.. it was a missed translation carried over time by the same media that still call us "encarnados" instead of "vermelhos". Its more of a wishfull thought now and a mantra for them than a true history.
I personally don't care,it adds up to the mythical club we are.
What's with the rainbow on your away kit?
Citação de: Faliro em 01 de Julho de 2023, 18:27What's with the rainbow on your away kit?
With 5 stripes of different colors, representing the 5 continents, this shirt is a tribute to the millions of Benfica fans who, all over the world, never stop loving, accompanying and taking the name of the club further"
Yes, it's ugly.
Citação de: Covenant em 03 de Julho de 2023, 10:44Citação de: Faliro em 01 de Julho de 2023, 18:27What's with the rainbow on your away kit?
With 5 stripes of different colors, representing the 5 continents, this shirt is a tribute to the millions of Benfica fans who, all over the world, never stop loving, accompanying and taking the name of the club further"
Yes, it's ugly.
Maybe a map of the world would have been better, no one I know sees a rainbow pattern and thinks of continents these days.
Citação de: Faliro em 03 de Julho de 2023, 18:49Citação de: Covenant em 03 de Julho de 2023, 10:44Citação de: Faliro em 01 de Julho de 2023, 18:27What's with the rainbow on your away kit?
With 5 stripes of different colors, representing the 5 continents, this shirt is a tribute to the millions of Benfica fans who, all over the world, never stop loving, accompanying and taking the name of the club further"
Yes, it's ugly.
Maybe a map of the world would have been better, no one I know sees a rainbow pattern and thinks of continents these days.
Yap, it's ugly and... Stupid.😂
Di Maria.
Citação de: Faliro em 05 de Julho de 2023, 23:02Di Maria.
He os back. Happy that football won against money.
Great weekend.😎
Citação de: Covenant em 26 de Fevereiro de 2024, 14:04Great weekend.😎
Surprised Sporting are doing so well. usually just you and Porto at the top.
Citação de: Faliro em 26 de Fevereiro de 2024, 16:55Citação de: Covenant em 26 de Fevereiro de 2024, 14:04Great weekend.😎
Surprised Sporting are doing so well. usually just you and Porto at the top.
Gyökeres is the main factor.
You guys ever had a similar phenomenon as the one below?
We have this defender Retsos. He is useless. Gets red cards, gives away penalties, misses headers and costs us many games. He was Olympiacos youth, went abroad, failed and then came back here. No matter how many mistakes he makes, the media never blame him and talk always about his potential and passion etc.
You ever had a similar situation?
Citação de: Faliro em 17 de Março de 2024, 22:03You guys ever had a similar phenomenon as the one below?
We have this defender Retsos. He is useless. Gets red cards, gives away penalties, misses headers and costs us many games. He was Olympiacos youth, went abroad, failed and then came back here. No matter how many mistakes he makes, the media never blame him and talk always about his potential and passion etc.
You ever had a similar situation?
André Almeida.
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